Much needed reference --Penarc 13:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Rewrote the article, feel free to improve. --Eptalon 14:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

I don't like this article. change

I'm not sure if this article is useful or correct. It makes no distinction that the terms aren't used medically and are more of a social construct. Also, MDMA, if using the definitions presented, is only a soft drug as it does not cause physical dependence. Anyone want to discuss this? I'm not confident enough to edit it straight away... LalaKnows (talk) 21:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hard v Soft is an arbitrary social construct change

I've seen articles in need of repair, but this one's a doozy. I'm in midterms right now, but rewriting this article is top of my to-do list when they're done in about a week. Dr.Elizabeth Hartney gave a pretty good answer to the question What is the Difference Between Soft Drugs and Hard Drugs? on About.com. Sources from peer-reviewed journals and everything. Are we allowed to copy-paste her answer into this wikipedia article? Theodoge (talk) 22:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

It's not just an arbitrary social construct, it's an uncommon viewpoint on the subject. Nine of ten Americans would not consider alcohol, caffeine or weed "hard drugs". This give me the vibe of somebody with an agenda trying to alter the facts.

Synthesis and personal opinion change

The sources do not address the key issues, which are

  1. The term "drug" is systematically ambiguous.
  2. To what extent is the difference between the two types of drugs agreed as a key method of classifying drugs?
  3. To what extent are the facts claimed in the article correct?

The two main references are not really addressed to these questions, or only incidentally. Therefore they do not really act as a proper basis for the article. The article reads like pop or personal opinion. The article makes all sorts of claims, none of which are properly documented. Indirectly it suggests or hints that LSD, mescaline, psilocybin, (etc) are less harmful because (supposedly) less habit-forming. In fact, they can be very dangerous unless you really know what you are doing. As for cocaine, just look at its effect in damaging communities and in its stimulus to crime. We have a lot of young readers. The last thing we should be doing is saying anything about drugs that we cannot clearly support. Very bad article. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Drug classifications in simple and informative explanations change

The statements show clear contradictions and need fair edits to differentiate death risks and clinical effects of drugs and a filtured arrangement of their readable presence here need improvement in revised article or in the pages in it. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 14:32, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

this is an old page, that clearly needs to be updated. As to harmfulness: people who regularly take cannabis may develop mental health conditions (paranoia)... Eptalon (talk) 15:09, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
and as far as I know cannabis is usually s soft drug Eptalon (talk) 22:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Change title? change

Recreational drug use, is the title at En-wiki.
Drug use for recreation, might be a simpler title.--Changing title (any of the two suggestion), has my support.--"Soft drug" is POV. 2001:2020:301:5AEE:C035:E402:5835:6258 (talk) 16:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hard and gateway drugs. That is a possible title, but maybe not simple. (It seems that I edited before, as 2001:2020:301:5AEE:C035:E402:5835:6258.) 2001:2020:301:5AEE:C035:E402:5835:6258 (talk) 16:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Drug use (title).--The lede can start with "Recreational drug use, sometimes called drug use, ...". 2001:2020:301:5AEE:CCDC:9042:34F3:12AE (talk) 17:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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