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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2020-53Edit

HelloEdit

Stop Deleting My Articles Kat885 (talk) 15:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No-one owns an article. The reason articles you created may have been deleted is because it meets deletion policy. Belwine💬📜 15:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
@Kat885: Helo there, we do have a policy that allows anyone to contribute to Wikipedia. This also includes the possibility of improving articles created by others. It also means that No one owns any articles. If this poses a problem for you you should probably stop contributing here. Oh, and for the deletion of articles: There are certain criteria an article must meet; articles that do not meet them, will be deleted.--Eptalon (talk) 16:16, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

RfCUEdit

Could you please check a new account added at RfCU? Thanks in advance. --IWI (talk) 17:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

There is now another that has popped up. Could you check it against the other accounts? Thanks. --IWI (talk) 18:14, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

HiEdit

Able to come on to IRC for a while now? Thanks much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

"Encoding"Edit

See my protest on Aunt's talk page. If we can have a quite good and extensive page on ASCII without using "encoding", why do we need that complex word at all? Beware of words that sound important but say no more than simple words. We've moved beyond Ogden, but his principles were good. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:07, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

  • I just wrote Character encoding. I know it's a stub, and probably a lot can be added. Note however: it is not limited to computing: Ships have used flags to send messages, probably for hundreds of years. (Yes, I also wrote Flag alphabet). --Eptalon (talk) 11:28, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

FloodEdit

Would you please add flood flag to my account for around 40-50 minutes? I am gonna copy a bunch of User files from enwiki. --PratyyaG  ·  Talk  11:34, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

flop not simpleEdit

Everytime I use the word flop for bad performances in certain movies, I get reminded that the word isn't simple. How come the word ain't simple? Angela Kate Maureen 23:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Angela, as you probably know I am not a native English speaker. From what I see, I'd say 'flop' is common, when people talk about movies or media, or perhaps even perfoming arts (like plays in a theatre). When I look at the alternatives (searching for synonyms), the only thing I see that could probably pass as simple would be 'failure'. That has the problem that its not specific enough. Personally, I'd suggest you continue to use 'flop'. But get a second opinion of a native speaker. --Eptalon (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Tropical Storm Angela: Native speaker here. When used in the context of how successful something is, flop is slang or jargon, neither of which is a simple use of language. (Entertainment reporting in particular is full of jargon.) You can see that meaning marked as informal in Wiktionary. Also, the main meaning of flop is to fall heavily, so the word has multiple meanings. When reasonably possible, it's good to avoid words that have multiple meanings, especially if the way you want to use it isn't the primary meaning. Instead of saying something like "the movie flopped at the box office," I would say something like "the movie didn't make much money." Even saying something like "the movie didn't do well at the box office" can confuse people who are learning English because that use of box office is figurative. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Flop is slangy when used idiomatically. Idiomatic uses are not simple, because if a foreign language reader is unfamiliar with street language they will not understand the term. Modern dictionaries do include idiomatic uses, but it seems many people do not use them or have them. On the other hand, idiomatic uses grow with use, and in some cultures become almost normal. It's interesting that the French language is officially governed by the Académie Française with the objective of controlling language change, especially invasions of English slangy terms! Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-01Edit

Flood2Edit

Hi Eptalon. Please may I have the flood permission for the next 12 minutes or so? I'm just doing lots of minor edits on articles in this list. These minor edits will just be capital letter corrections (coat of arms -> Coat of arms). This is just so I don't flood the recent changes page. Many thanks, Belwine💬📜 21:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

To add to this, I'll also be doing edits where I add captions (it will just be adding the caption "Coat of arms", nothing significant still). Belwine💬📜 21:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I don't need this flood permission anymore. Many thanks, Belwine💬📜 22:30, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

User:1.132.107.78Edit

Should be blocked for 1 week for vandialism on Peter Cushing. [1] and [2]and check [3] as well before blocking. Already reported to WP:VIP.KP (talk) 09:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

:::Thank you for blocking.KP (talk) 09:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Request for RollbackEdit

Sir I had made a request for rollback at WP:RFR#Rollback. Please look into my consideration.KP (talk) 11:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Agra divisionEdit

Hi. QD was requested to make way for move from "Agra Division", which is to sync the page name was enwiki's and it's the only page in category:Divisions of Uttar Pradesh that has a uppercase. --Minorax (talk) 11:44, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Moved the page, thats for telling me. --Eptalon (talk) 11:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-02Edit

User:94.59.41.237Edit

User should be blocked indefinitely for vandalism after two final warnings.KP (talk) 07:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @TTP1233: Only logged in accounts are blocked indefinitely, as IP addresses can change and will eventually be used by someone else. WP:VIP is the best place to report vandals, instead of admin's individual talk pages. --IWI (talk) 08:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I also reported there before, but again the user IP is doing vandalism at Robots (2005 movie). So in emergency I had done that.KP (talk) 08:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2021/Mizanur Rahman AzhariEdit

The date of discussion has already passed one day ago. Would you please tell me what action will you take?KP (talk) 06:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Closing of RfDsEdit

Hello Epalton. I was wondering if you could close some of the active RfDs, like WikiProject Wikipeida and World development foundation? Thanks, and have a great day. ShadowBallX (talk) 23:18, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-03Edit

A Barnstar For You!Edit

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thank you for being a great admin! BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 23:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you...--Eptalon (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

IRCEdit

Are you on IRC? BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 17:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Responded to commentEdit

Just letting you know I responded to your comment on my talk page. Have a great day. ShadowBallX (talk) 17:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

RevertEdit

In my view, we shouldn't be allowing users to add Nazi theories about Holocaust denial to a talk page, and I don't see the age of the discussion as relevant to that. Racist beliefs are incompatible with Wikipedia and are not welcomed. --IWI (talk) 19:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

In what way is that 5 year old discussion revisionist? - Is odubting something revisionist? Talk pages are there for such arguments. Note that most killings were done with en:Zyklon B, which is based on cyanide. The Nazis produced three nerve agents, Tabun, Sarin, and Soman. To my knolwedge, they never used them. It is possible, that some were tested, also in the concentration camps. Sorry: I really don't see what the harm of the statement is. Thats why I undid your removal (and the collapsible border). --Eptalon (talk) 19:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
If you don't see the harm in Holocaust denial, then I don't even know how to respond. --IWI (talk) 20:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 (change conflict)  Wow. Just wow. Someone else removed that denialist nonsense (which was better than my collapsing it) and you restored it?
To my knolwedge, they never used them [poison gas].
This is the worst form of denialist nonsense. If you are you trying to get yourself globally banned from all Wikimedia projects, insistence on including this sort of thing may be as good a way as any to accomplish that. I've collapsed the section again, and I encourage anyone who wants to delete it again, to do so. As a friendly piece of advice, I advise you just to lurk and observe, and not to restore it again. Mathglot (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Actually, it isn't. I simply stated that to my knowledge, there are no documented cases, where the nazis used Tabun, Soman or Sarin, in a combat situation. Can you point to a documented case? --Eptalon (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
And no, I am not talking abvout the use of Zyklon B, in concentration/extetmination camps. That's well documented. --Eptalon (talk) 20:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Eptalon: I'm requesting that you be crystal clear now about your beliefs concerning the use of poison gas and extermination camps, because I am already at simple ANI and in Preview mode, composing a message requesting that you be de-sysopped (as well as de-cratted, and de-everything else). I will hold off before finishing my message (I still need to create some diffs), but I need the clearest possible statement from you. If I have misunderstood, then I apologize; but if there's any waffling in your response or skating the edge about this topic, I will finish the message and publish it. Just so you know that I don't take this lightly, nor do I have an itchy trigger finger: I've been here 14 years, and have never even come close to requesting anybody be desysopped before, so this would be a first for me. Let's hope I am misunderstanding you, but now is the time to be really, really clear. Adding IWI. Mathglot (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Mathglot, let me be clear: I wasn't alive at the time of the Second World War, I am not a historian either, so I need to rely on historians: They say that poison gas was used at these camps, and it was also used to kill people; I have no means to verify this information, other than the reports of different historians. This is however not the point I was trying to make: The discussion we are talking about is several years old. Yes, the topic is controversial, but there is no urgent need to remove the discussion. My discussion, also from above was that to my knolwedge the nazis didn't use the agents Tabun, Soman, or Sarin in combat situations. The use of Zyklon B (+other substances) in conentration camps, and the nazis killing people for example in the context of de:Aktion T4 are historically well-documented and not controversial. So, please provide documentation for the Nazi use of Tabun, Soman, and Sarin, in combat situations. --Eptalon (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
As to the discussion itself: comment (+user doubting these killings) in 2014, reply by another user, in 2016. Collapsible infobox/title is a more recent addition. --Eptalon (talk) 21:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
This is not about me, or my providing documentation for T, S, or S, in combat situations, or otherwise. I don't doubt that you have doubts about the use of those three chemicals, and that's an appropriate topic for the talk page. This is your user page, and it's about your behavior at the article (and here as well). We haven't interacted before, and I didn't know whether you were alive and politically aware during WW2 (few are; those who were 15 at the end of the war are now 90) but that doesn't matter. What's shocking to me, is that you appear either to be unaware that millions were exterminated in German death camps by use of poison gas, or you are unaware how incredibly tone-deaf it appears to other users to restore Talk page statements, such as this:

"Poison Gas ??? Oh Really? The Nazis killed millions of these people at the concentration camps with poison gas.

True The Nazis murdered millions of these people at the concentration camps with with industrial machine efficiency. But with poison gas? Even Schindler's List only showed that as a rumor. Remember that remarkable scene? Perhaps Steven Spielberg is a Holocaust Denier? Or poor researcher? Sorry, that popular powerful tale needs evidence.

as you did here, with the Edit summary, "Last known good version, there's on reason to remove a 5 year old discussion". "Good version"? How about considering this principle, when considering restoring it: there's no reason to restore 5 year old pro-Nazi conspiracy theories by an IP user. And after you restored it, it was still hidden by the collapse bar I previously added, so you doubled down, and uncollapsed it (with ES: no reason to hide a 5 year old discussion) in this edit. Wtf?
Are you really unaware of how this looks to onlookers? You appear to either be denying or finessing the question by use of words like "to my knowledge" and so forth). Were you a newbie user, or at least one not used to editing or commenting on Holocaust-related topics, I would just explain things patiently to you, perhaps with a warning to avoid disruption in this controversial area, carefully watched by many editors. But since you are German (or at least, German-speaking native, not sure how things are in Aut, CH-de, and so on) I'm well aware of how profoundly (and admirably, far better than the French, say) the events of WW2 and the Holocaust are taught to German children; so it beggars belief that you are not aware of this. But more important by far, is that you have your fifteen-year badge, and the triple mop of admin, CU, and crat; that's about as far from clueless newbie American high school student who couldn't pick out Germany on a map, as you can possibly get.
This is really troubling to me. I'm stunned, both by your original edits at Talk:Nazism, and here since. I just don't know what to make of it. Maybe I'm missing something; I'm far less used to "simple" than en-wiki. Mathglot (talk) 22:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
I think right at the moment, you are overreacting over two stale statements from 2014 and 2016, one by an IP editor, the other by a named editor, which have since been removed. Remember, Wikpedia isn't censored; evryone is entitled to their opinion. Yes, I am aware of history. I invite you to stop your personal attacks on me, and I expect an apology. As to the issue I will move on. I am here to bulid an encyclopedia, and I invite you do the same. --Eptalon (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

USernameEdit

How Do I say "Eptalon"? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

No idea how to pronounce it... --Eptalon (talk) 22:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Wait, then how did you choose your username lol --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
A long time ago, I was playing pen and paper roleplaying games (Dungeons and Dragons, one of the first versions). I came up with the name, at the time; I have used it since then a few times, also in other role playing games.--Eptalon (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Ohhh, cool. I sometimes play GTA V or Minetest (Open soruce Minecraft, and free) I'm making an apartment currently in that game for about 6 months now! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Removal of rights requestEdit

I'm really sorry, but all this needs to be looked at by people who are much more familiar with Simple than I am, and who know the procedures here far better than I do. I've filed a request for removal of rights here. Your feedback is, of course, welcome. I hope this is all just a big misunderstanding, and that things work out for you. Mathglot (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

I left a comment on the page, I have left my comments above, and tried to explain. There's no reason for further interaction with you. --Eptalon (talk) 00:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

User:つがる/EditnoticeEdit

  • Please apply indefinite semi-protection for that user page and it's user talk page. There should be no need for un-regiestered of un-semi-confiremed users to be editing it. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

RFDEdit

  • Hi. I made an RFD, and user redirects the whole Wikipedia Article, What happens to the RFD now that the page is under a new name, but with the same content? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Our RfD syszem dsoesn't support that well. I see to options: either we move the pageb back to where it was, and add a comment on the talkpage, that it should be moved once it survived the RfD rquest, or we move the RfD page (which I haven't seen so far). I'll think about something...--Eptalon (talk) 03:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok, Eptalon, Whatever you think of, I'll accept! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
I moved the page back, I think thats the simplest for now. I also left a comment on the talk page, for people interested in moving the page.--Eptalon (talk) 04:30, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-04Edit

Which is the most viewed airtcle in simple Wikipedia?Edit

Is it the vishnu airtcle since when type vishnu in Google the first result comes from this Wikipedia not the more complex known one 950CMR (talk) 10:45, 27 January 2021 (UTC)