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hi-N इस सदस्य को हिन्दी का मातृभाषा के समान ज्ञान है।
hif-N Is sadasya ko Fiji Hindi ke bachpan ke bhasa ke saman jaankari hae.
ur-5 یہ صارف اردو کا پیشہ ورانہ علم رکھتا ہے۔
ar-1 هذا المستخدم لديه معرفة أساسية بالعربية.
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Some cookies to welcome you!  

Welcome to Wikipedia, Haoreima! I'm ImprovedWikiImprovment and an active editor here. Thank you for your changes. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions check out Wikipedia:Questions, or send me a message on my talk page. I like to help new people, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like Wikipedia and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! --IWI (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!Edit

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Your great work editing geographic articles. Thank you for your work. Please keep going! George (Kirkburn) (talk) 19:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for motivation! Haoreima (talk) 19:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Help with Wikidata and categoriesEdit

Regarding guidance I can give you: my special focus is on making information accessible within and between WP projects. This includes:
  • Wikidata items for pages, including connecting to equivalent pages in other WP language projects ("interwiki" links)
  • Creating and populating categories for pages, maintaining hierarchies (subcategories) and interwiki links at the category level

This will involve my studying your edits till I get the scope of what exists. You can expect this will be somewhat systematic, with activity every day or so. If this seems suitable to you, I suggest we give it a trial. As the Users @Belwine: and @Auntof6: have already been helpful with your queries, and they're also highly active in the Simple English WP, here's my shout-out to them that I'm agreeable to picking up the task of upgrading Meitei pages with you here. NB: remember to indent your reply with a colon mark at the start of the line. -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:46, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Examine others' edits in Compare selected versions (View history)Edit

Are you familiar with the "Compare selected revisions" feature of the "View history" tab? It shows you exactly what each next edit does.

  • Select a pair of edits by clicking on two "radio buttons" at the start of those lines.
  • This displays a pair of texts: pre- and post-edit with the changes highlighted (on the right). Below is the more recent page version.
  • (Note: Be sure not to edit there in an old version!)
  • If there are more edits after the pair you compare, you can view them by clicking on the right-facing arrows ("Newer diff").

I highly suggest you view these regularly if another editor (especially a more experienced one) is editing pages you've created and developed. -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure, thanks. I will try to follow your instructions as much as possible. Haoreima (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Learning WikidataEdit

Per our recent discussion on my Talk page: I consider learning the basics of Wikidata a valuable skill set for an active contributor as you are. Here are some suggestions to start:
1. View the edit history of d:User:Awangba Mangang. To do this:

  • In Wikidata, go to your own Contributions.
  • Open the downward-pointing arrow to the left of Search for contributions.
  • Where your User name appears (as "IP address or username:"), substitute Awangba Mangang
  • That name will appear with a gray background under where you entered it. Click on the gray-background name to confirm.
  • Below, select Search (blue box with white letters). This allows you to study Wikidata items edited by User:Awangba Mangang

2. See that you have the ability to add interwiki links:

  • Open the Wikidata item for Nongthang Leima (Q85789406).
  • Underneath the sections titled "Statements" and "Identifiers" - do you have the section "Wikipedia" with links to three WP language projects (en, mni, simple)? If so, try each link.
    • Write your reply here: Yes / No

Once you've had some time to explore the first topic and have answered the second, we'll discuss further activities for you. -- Deborahjay (talk) 22:18, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

@Deborahjay: Well, thanks for your help. I will ping you as soon as possible when I set my work to wiki data. I am replying you right now so that you may not get mind with me that I am not responding. I will always accompany the helps you render. Haoreima (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-28Edit

A present for youEdit

I have given a 24 inch iMac to you. The iMac features a M1 processor, 16 GB of RAM and 1 terabyte of storage. Alcatel 144895534 (talk) 16:15, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
@Alcatel 144895534: Thanks for the present. It's a super brand, I am happy using it. Lol. Haoreima (talk) 11:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hi there! So I fixed [[Haosi Namoinu]] to look right. You can take a look at all of the changes I made. I also would ask you read WP:Cite, particularly WP:Cite#Template with a focus on the WP:Cite#Common Templates and WP:Cite#Using refToolbar. Using bare references is not good and on this article all of the books were typed over and over, except the last one. To help prevent you from doing all of that, once you make the first citation, before you save it, give it a Ref name and then click on the preview to make sure there are no errors. Typically if you paste the URL into it, most of the information should be filled in for you. If you have any questions, please tag me on this page and I will help you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:57, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb Things I generally do in wikipedia is to create articles and to put appropriate references so that these aren't deleted or merged (things I don't want) by other editors. But what you are asking me to do is very difficult for me because I seldom use desktop, I keep myself attached to mobile usages generally! So, I only expect edits for such decorations of links by others, because decorations or no decorations don't affect the existence of the article I created. In fact, what really matters is the presence of the appropriate reference links. So, help me for decorations! Haoreima (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi so these are not decorations as you state. The references are required and have to be in a certain format to be picked around the world and to provide more links to access the resources. Websites change all the time so if you only list a website it will more than likely be gone in a couple of years or so. You also need to provide access dates because all I can do on that is use the date I fixed it and not the actual date it was accessed.
When you create an article you have to include the references and not depend on others to do it for you. That is something you need to do. If you eliminate the m on the url (force desktop mode on your device) you will have access to the tool bar to do this appropriately. Having others do it for all of the articles you have created causes us to focus on those articles and fixing them instead of other things I need to do on other articles. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 19:20, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Inline source citations use tags in the form of <ref> reference information here </ref> . I, at least, perform this general norm from WP:Cite. Other than this, I don't know about usage of templates. So, it's better to do upto what I know well rather than to create errors in doing things I don't have knowledge. Haoreima (talk) 19:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) A feature that may be helpful is the "Cite" option in Visual Editor that is available also on mobile. Most citations will just work if you put the URL in the "Automatic" section, and the citation will be created for you. Sometimes, you do have to go through the manual option, which is slower. --Ferien (talk) 19:41, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
@Ferien I have been explaining that but as he said he only uses mobile and he is only using a bare ref as he stated above. The problem is the references are all the same and a copy paste so it appears like 5-8 sources used, but when fixed, it drops down to 1 or 2 sources. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
That is why I pointed you to the correct way to do it. The in-line citation is also on that link. If you do just what you have been doing it becomes a mess and errors are prone to happen when you just list them like you did instead of a correct citation and giving it a name. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:12, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


Hi I just reverted your edit to the reference as that is not the correct title of the work. We cannot add words into a title. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:09, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @PotsdamLamb: I don't think rollback was appropriate for that edit, though. --Ferien (talk) 20:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I didn't use rollback @Ferien. I undid it. The title of the work is A Human turning Harinongnang not A Human turning into Harinongnang. The word into does not fit into this statement of the title as they are not physically turning into something or any other definition of the word. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
PotsdamLamb, the tag here shows you rollbacked it. Also, the title of the page (the one that shows when you hover over the tab in a browser) is A Human turning into Harinongnang whilst on the actual page it says A Human turning Harinongnang, and if I recall correctly, those browser titles are used in the citations. Also, the link is a folk tale, I've read it and it seems that the human was "turning into Harinongnang". --Ferien (talk) 20:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
The tag shows that for all of them. I did not use the rights I have though. As far as the title of the work. If you look at the work title, it is without the "into" so we cannot change the title of something we did not create. See The work. The html in the page is different from the title of the work. The full title of the page is A Human turning into Harinongnang Taibang Meena Harinongnang Onba that is through the source coding. So it is either an error on webmaster or an error on the work creator. Typically in these kinds of situations I take the title of the source over the title of the webpage, as the work is what we are citing, not the title of the page through the code. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
PotsdamLamb One thing I really don't appreciate you to do is not to merge links because they are just from a single book. For example, see this one and this one are both from a single website. But Google Books website is really unique from other websites. That means with the mentioning of certain words in the links like "Haosi-Namoinu-only-daughter", links will appear like this one and when searching for "Haosi-Namoinu-cicada", results will appear like this one. And if you merged all those unique search results into one link, just because they are from the same web, then other reviewers will say that the latter links provided are not reliable. Haoreima (talk) 06:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The URLs all point to the same book. If there is a certain page it’s on you need to cite the page or pages. You cannot list the same book numerous times as it doesn’t work like that. This is why I’m telling you to use the citation tool. There are certain things that have to be present in a citation. Again all you are doing is using bare references which again you should not be doing. If you can provide the page or pages that these are on I can update the citation to reflect that and it will go to that. By providing the page numbers it will divide them out but you did not do that on the originals. This will prove as reliable and handle everything. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 06:58, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I understand what you mean! But the search results are totally different though they belong to the same book. But I don't know how to put the page no. in the citation styling. So, do that for me. I will learn that from how you did. Haoreima (talk) 07:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
No worries. Put the links on this conversation and the page or page numbers and I’ll update them. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 07:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
See PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 07:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
PotsdamLamb See! there's no bare URL in that page. Haoreima (talk) 07:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Because I fixed them already. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 07:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
PotsdamLamb I don't know where is the page number located! Help me in finding out the page numbers. Haoreima (talk) 08:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
So typically they will be located on the page you are looking at or you may have to count them. Typically the first few pages are in Roman language so you will see I, II, IV, etc. The numeric format most times will be centered on the bottom of the page or in the top corner (either right or left side based on what side of the book it is on for a physical book). If you can provide me a link I can look for you. I’m on my way to fire an officer right now so I’ll get to it shortly. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 09:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
PotsdamLamb Take care Jerry, don't let your aim missed! Lol! Haoreima (talk) 09:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Huh? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 14:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

WLW South Asia 2021Edit

I observe you are joining Wikiprojects. If you're looking for a place to apply that diligence that I see so praised, may I invite you to Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 on the Simple English Wikipedia? There is a small cash prize for the person who writes the best articles about gender gap, women's empowerment, feminism and related subjects. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Darkfrog24 I have participated there. But what is meant by "per language", as described there. Can this project exist in any languages of wikipedia? If so, what about Meitei Wikipedia? Haoreima (talk) 03:56, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Here is the list of Wikipedias in the contest. The rule is that any Wikipedia for a language spoken in South Asia may hold part of the contest. (The organizers say English counts, and Simple English Wikipedia writes for people who are not native speakers of English.) Meitei is spoken in India, so I think they will say yes if you want to start a contest on the Meitei Wikipedia. It's only one day in and might not be too late. The contest runs from September 1 to September 30. Darkfrog24 (talk) 04:40, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject AnimalsEdit

  Welcome to WikiProject Animals!
Welcome to WikiProject Animals! Welcome new members. I hope you have a delightful time here and improve lots of articles on animals!. Also thank you for joining us and all ideas that can be used to develop this project further is welcome

Hello Haoreima, I would like to welcome you to WikiProject Animals and also thank you for joining because you can be of great help in creating articles about animals because if you look at simple wikipedia it doesn't have a significant number of articles about animals. But if you check the number of animals on Earth there are hundreds of thousands of them. If we create all of them we can contribute greatly to simple wikipedia. Also we have tasks at User:AJona1992/Wikiproject Animals and at the talk page you can make suggestions about how we can improve to achieve our goals. Thanks for reading and joining. Space chinedu (talk) 06:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about the red link I spelt the article wrong but you get the idea Space chinedu (talk) 06:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikiproject AgricultureEdit

  Welcome to WikiProject Agriculture!
Welcome to WikiProject Agriculture! I hope you have a delightful time here and improve lots of articles on agriculture! and all comments and thoughts on how to improve the Wikiproject is welcome in talk page. Once again thank you for joining.

Sorry I didn't respond sooner Space chinedu (talk) 12:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Space chinedu It's ok. And thanks for your warm words. Haoreima (talk) 15:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

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Calling people "dear"Edit

You might not know this, but calling someone "dear" is considered rude unless they are a relative or a close friend. I'm not telling you to stop, but you should be aware that people might have a negative opinion of you when you do that. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:11, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: So, how should I address people? Haoreima (talk) 04:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Just by their user name would be fine. The reason using "dear" isn't good is that it can seem condescending or belittling. Probably no one has felt that way so far, but it's good to know that they might. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:12, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: And what about you, ma'am? Is "ma'am" ok, or "aunt" for you? Haoreima (talk) 08:24, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
"Auntof6" is fine. Using terms like "ma'am" or "sir" can imply that the person using them is inferior to the person they're talking to—at least in American usage, which is what I use—and I prefer to think of everyone here as equals. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:11, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: If possible, allow me to use "bro" or "sis" if I know the gender, because I think this will bring people in the wiki, closer among one another! Allow me please! Haoreima (talk) 09:16, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
You can call people whatever you want; I'm not telling you not to. I just wanted you to understand how people might take it. I don't think calling people bro or sis will make them feel closer. It would make me feel uncomfortable, and I'm sure there are others who wouldn't like it, either. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:04, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Why so uncomfortable on calling "sis"? Haoreima (talk) 11:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
I just wouldn't care to be called bro or sis. It implies a level of familiarity that I don't want here. Some people see their interactions here as working with friends. I see it more as working with colleagues. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Sorry to butt in here, but in some cultures calling someone "dear" is considered to be respectful. I have many foreign friends who call me "dear" all the time and they mean it to be respectful. They also call me "sir" and "boss" in a similarly affectionate way. Blissyu2 (talk) 15:53, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
@Blissyu2: I suggest people only use such words if an editor accepts, many of us do not live in such cultures, and dear is taken... differently in most places. 💠Ely - Talk💠 15:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian I am guessing that you are following this user talk page. I butted in and you double-butted in right back, and then butted in on something else below. Perhaps I should be careful not to butt in or else I will be double-butted in! Anyway, where was I? So anyway, I don't think that there is a policy banning the use of the word "dear" and I am a great believer that if the intention is good then we should treat it that way. Otherwise we are assuming bad faith, and I think that there is a policy on Wikipedia somewhere saying that we should not do that. Blissyu2 (talk) 16:12, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
There is not, but its just uncomfortable and creepy to most people here on the wiki (people here are mostly American and European due to their fluent English that is valued in writing pages). If the intention is good, let it be good. But a notice should be given. 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:26, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I find it creepy that people watch other people's talk pages. I remember a time when that was banned, but it seems to be okay now. Blissyu2 (talk) 17:05, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm not watching his talk page. I'm just checking new changes, and I saw this. Also the (talk page stalker) template is a joke relating to en wiki-jaguars (as part of their wiki fauna nonsense). 💠Ely - Talk💠 17:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough. Anyway, I think this is something from India, which is predominantly English-speaking, though other parts of South-East Asia also seem to have this kind of idea, from English-speaking countries. It's a culture thing, not a language thing. I am always wary to tell people to adopt our culture in preference to their own. As long as they mean well, I think they are good to go. Blissyu2 (talk) 04:03, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian: not everyone. We have numerous editors from Canada as well, and I'm neither American, Canadian nor European. SHB2000 (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm giving a general overview. Most of our editors speak English as their native language, generally. 💠Ely - Talk💠 03:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
True, including myself even though I come from the Anglo-sphere. SHB2000 (talk) 05:11, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
No one, including me, said there was any kind of policy about this. I also know that it's different in some cultures. I wanted to make sure that Haoreima knew that, too, so that he'd know he might be offending people or making them uncomfortable. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:42, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit horror film decade sections on English WikipediaEdit

Dear friend I have a request can you edit horror film on English Wikipedia create a 1896-1919 section, a 1920-1959 section, 1960-1969 section, and a 1970-present section just like you have them on here. Horrorfan1000000 (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

The decade sections for Horror movie on here on Simple-English Wikipedia say 1896-1919, 1920-1959, 1960-1969, and 1970-present can you do the same for horror film on English Wikipedia create the exact decade sections 1896-1919, 1920-1959, 1960-1969, and 1970-present but on the horror film on English Wikipedia. Horrorfan1000000 (talk) 15:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I know you were blocked from Wikipedia but what if you can create a whole new different account a different username and a different password. Horrorfan1000000 (talk) 15:24, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Horrorfan1000000 Hello I know you want me to develop the article but I am sorry for I can't help you till now. Only when I am able to edit en wikipedia, I might try. But I have seen someone had discussed about the similar topic at the talk page of Sakura emad with @Sakura emad, SHB2000, Elytrian: Hope these guys might help you. Haoreima (talk) 16:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Haoreima i suggest you should not offer a single help until he/she decides to listen to us. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Haoreima: I agree with Sakura. Please see the comment I made on @Horrorfan1000000's talk page, and @Sakura emad's talk page, and @Djsasso's talk page on this same topic. 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:28, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Haoreima: i already told this user numerous of times

@Friday3jason.webp i will try my best to teach you the basics, the way you can get the best practices on wikipedia is that enough for you? right?
— User:Sakura emad

@Friday3jason.webp if you listen to me everything can be smooth and normal, i am not going to repeating myself Please listen otherwise i can't, if you're going to listen write "i will listen" so i can know you're showing improvement sign
— User:Sakura emad

the case was sockpuppetry and it was verified by a check user Please refrain from using multiple accounts unless you follow the rules
— User:Sakura emad

🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
i really don't know and would like to know what makes it so hard @Horrorfan1000000 to listen to us, for what we have to say, i told the user that what i am going to say is important for your future career on the entire wikimedia projects and the way you contribute, but idk why @Horrorfan1000000 choose to speak to different users on wikipedia while the results will be the same. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:33, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Sakura emad, Elytrian: Now, what shall we do? Haoreima (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Wait for block, J991 has already started a Vandalism In Progress report. 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:35, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@Haoreima: as i suggested Please do not offer a single help because the user is not listen to us, for them to get help, the very first step they should do is create a single and real account that solely belongs to them not anyone else, then secondly they should use {{User alternative account banner}} to link all other alternative accounts to the real account, that's a critical Point shouldn't be ignored in order to participate, third they should not engage in sockpuppetry never again in the future, if they wish to create another account they should use {{User alternative account banner}} again and explain the purpose of using alternative accounts in accordance with wikipedia's Policy WP:SOCKLEGIT. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Sakura emad Yes, you are right! I used to suspect the editing habits. But since it's not confirmed, I can't say that with full confidence. So, I pinged you, Ely and SHB! Haoreima (talk) 16:47, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
  hope everything gets back to normal. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Sakura emad Yeah! Haoreima (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Your agree that there should be a 1896-1919 section, 1920-1959 section, 1960-1969 section, and a 1970-present section on horror film on English Wikipedia? Horrorfan1000000 (talk) 17:26, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps. Perhaps not. But first stop socking. 💠Ely - Talk💠 17:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok then just go to English Wikipedia and edit horror film and I'll stop. Horrorfan1000000 (talk) 17:33, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@Horrorfan1000000 Stop evading your global lock and socking. SHB2000 (talk) 04:06, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


Hi. I noticed you on the RfD comments as someone who seems to create a lot of articles that are then nominated for deletion. Why not just contribute to existing articles? It's a lot less stressful! I note in particular that you are getting into conflict with one user, SHB2000, who has been writing "delete per nom" and not explaining why he thinks that an article should be deleted. You should note that RfD is not a vote and someone who writes "delete per nom" is usually ignored by the closing admin. If the article is notable and can prove it, then it is kept, otherwise it is not. As a note, for the most part the Simple Wikipedia is meant to reflect existing Wikipedia entries but is made simpler. Thus the articles should generally be more notable here than the requirements in other Wikis. Our aim is to simplify existing topics for non-native English speakers, not to create new topics that don't exist anywhere else. Blissyu2 (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

@Blissyu2: SHB2000 explains it very clearly, not notable means not notable, and bad sourcing means bad sourcing. SHB is quite experienced, and until recently I have suspected you are part of a sockfarm. I've explained on some of his deletion requests as well. Simple wiki does not have higher notability standards too. You are quite confused. See Wikipedia:Notability. 💠Ely - Talk💠 15:59, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian okay. I thought it did have higher standards. I will delete my comment then. My apologies. Why are you accusing me of being a sockpuppet? I had those accusations on En-wiki years ago. Quite untrue I'm afraid. Some people were playing politics. I'm not sure who the other people were. I worked out who some were but most were a mystery. It all got quite silly really. Just because I criticised Wikipedia and highlighted some of their mistakes they decided to make up claims that I had created multiple accounts and been a vandal and all of these other silly things. What happened was that I had an alternating IP that was shared by thousands of people on different days. It was a case of mistaken identity and a presumption that we were all one person when there were actually many people doing very different things to each other. Blissyu2 (talk) 16:05, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Not that. It was just your early behaviour relating to Dc Themmie. 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:18, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think I've edited Dc Themmie at all and the only thing I can find is my comment on the Deletion Review for that article, in which I opposed it being recreated [1]. Is that bad behaviour? Blissyu2 (talk) 13:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian: Not notable means not notable indeed, but you really need to explain why. RfD is not RfA; !votes should never be "per nom" and people are discouraged from just saying "not notable". --Ferien (talk) 16:12, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
SHB has explained, but I'm stating a fact that 'not notable' clearly shows annoyance to why it wasn't a QD. As for @Haoreima's topics, he uses Google books as a source, which is not reliable, (even though policies say its recommended, I suggest we change that) and the book from it shows no case of a distinguished expert or trying to persuade notability. His topics aren't notable from even a regional point of view (from my point of view on the regional point of view). Votes are never per nom, but I'm leaning towards the deletionist's side in my behaviour. 💠Ely - Talk💠 16:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
@Ferien: Hello pal! I have something I forgot to ask you for many times back. In the last edit of yours here in this section, once you reverted someone's edit, and at the very same reverting edit, you write your reply (your own wordings were added). How were such actions done? I only know just reverting in one edit and saying subsequent words in later edits! Please explain me the steps! I am talking about this! :) Haoreima (talk) 02:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello Haoreima. I just pressed undo like normal but then added my reply in the text box, just like a normal edit. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 16:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Elytrian, not really. "Not notable" doesn't show annoyance as to why it wasn't a QD. It just says that: "Not notable". No-one is going to read anyone else's mind or think of what someone usually puts on an RfD, they are just looking at that one comment. "Not notable" does not translate to "QD should have been used". In most cases, QD A4 is used when it shouldn't be and RfD is used too little for non-notable topic, in my opinion.
About Google Books not being reliable, we can't just judge millions of books in an instant. Sometimes a book shows notability about a topic, sometimes it doesn't.
Of course, you can identify as a deletionist or an inclusionist – I am somewhere between the two – but lots of "per nom" or "not notable" comments aren't really useful comments to add to an RfD and when I was closing RfDs at that time, just made it more difficult to close RfDs. --Ferien (talk) 16:42, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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Haoreima, all your articles have images that are too large and placed incorrectly. As per the manual of style, most images should be the default size (in the visual editor, idk about source) and aligned to the right. Most of your articles have these issues. I went ahead and fixed Meitei festivals as an example. 💠Ely - Talk💠 10:44, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Elytrian Thanks for help. And sorry for those. It's because I generally use mobile version view instead of desktop version view while using wikipedia. So, in mobile views, every images appear normal to me. Haoreima (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
We do have some examples where it would be better off at the centre, like Walls of Jerusalem National Park but that's an odd exception SHB2000 (talk) 11:44, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I don't speak Meitei and Google isn't offering me a translationEdit

Hi Haoreima. Thank you for your welcome message for me on the Meitei Wikipedia. Sadly, I only speak very limited amounts of about 10 languages and that does not include Meitei. The closest language I speak even a little bit of to that is probably Japanese or Indonesian, and they are not very close at all! I do not know what you said! It just shows as little boxes on my screen! Thank you for your welcome message, though, but I don't think I will contribute to that wiki, as I do not want to make things worse. I will leave the contributions to native speakers. Blissyu2 (talk) 11:02, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Blissyu2 No worries! I always try to give a welcome message to everybody who created their user accounts there in the mni wikipedia automatically after logging in there. In fact, I am acting like a bot, when there's no bot working in the mni wikipedia. Btw, if you are worrying about machine translation, don't worry. Google Translate has already put Meitei language (aka. Manipuri language) in the beta translation service. So, within a few months or at least one year, Meitei (aka. Manipuri) will appear in the Google Translate public usage facility. Thanks! Haoreima (talk) 11:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Haoreima I registered Blissyu2 on the meta wiki some years ago so I didn't have to personally create a Meitei Wikipedia account as this is my global account. I did this to prevent those silly claims of sockpuppeting. It automatically logs me in whenever I view a new wiki's page. It does have the unfortunate side effect of sometimes automatically logging me out sometimes too but that's just how it goes. I must have looked at a Meitei wiki article at one stage and it automatically created an account for me. Blissyu2 (talk) 13:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, there's no harm in that being done. Looking at Special:CentralAuth/SHB2000, I must've visited 570 different wikis, although most were probably me using SWViewer. SHB2000 (talk) 13:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
@Blissyu2, SHB2000: Actually, I feel something like loneliness when I visit other languages' wikis, when no one welcomes me or put anything on my talk page. Even when I was very active in some wikis, my talk page remains always blank. This upsets me. So, I don't want other people to have such feelings. That is why I put welcome message to everyone, whether they know Meitei language or not. This case is exceptional to those guys who put redirect to other wikis on their mni talk page, like that of SHB2000. Regards! Haoreima (talk) 17:38, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

google translateEdit

Don't know why it thinks it's Shanghai... Once google translate gave a translation of 17h30 in Portuguese to 17:30pm in English. Strange algorithm. SHB2000 (talk) 13:30, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

SHB2000 I am active in Espanol and Fracais Quoras, besides English. There, people use "3,8 k" instead of "3.8 k" for 3800. I think this is due to different cultures of different places. And coming back to Sangai and Shanghai, Bengali, Hindi and other Indian languages' GT machine translations as well as transliterations wrongly interpret "Meitei" as "Meity" or "Meeti". In fact, these two "Meity" and "Meeti" literally means "Peter" in Meitei language. Lol! It's very odd to us, seriously. Haoreima (talk) 13:41, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
That was one of the few things I found unusual when I was learning French. So 1.5 in English is 1,5. Probably something with southern European languages? And GT giving "Peter"? Much more unusual than 17:30pm (I've once seen 23:30PM in Thailand once before so it's not completely unusual) SHB2000 (talk) 13:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Though I don't know much about Europe, I think those languages evolved from Latin, for example, Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, etc. might have different cultures from those of English-German party. And again, Celtic/Gaelic party might have different culture. That might be the reason! And are you asking me something by using 2 question marks "?" in your last talk? I can't understand your 2nd "?"! Can you please elaborate it? Haoreima (talk) 17:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

You've got new messages!Edit

Hello, Haoreima. You have new messages at Prajjwal3959's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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Hi Haoreima, thanks for welcoming new users. Remember to substitute the welcome template by putting subst: before welcome, so it appears like {{subst:welcome}}. Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Ferien Yeah, but I still have a confusion. That's what is the difference between {{subst:welcome}} and {{welcome}} in their purposes? Haoreima (talk) 04:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Using {{welcome}} will transclude Template:welcome to the user talk page you're posting to, but if you substitute it will put the wikitext from the template on the user talk page. --Ferien (talk) 06:20, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The main reason is that it somewhat hides the fact that it's a template and it looks more like the welcomer actually wrote that entire message. SHB2000 (talk) 07:07, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Then, it's a good trick. Lol Haoreima (talk) 07:28, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
It sure is (-: Also the same reason why we substitute warnings and notices which are actually templates. The only place I think where substituting isn't done is Commons because it needs to be autotranslated. SHB2000 (talk) 07:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Unlike other wikis, in Hindi Wikipedia, they use direct template, like I did here before. So, imitating their way, I used welcome template directly in more than 700 user talk pages in Manipuri/Meitei Wikipedia. Lol! See hi:User talk:Haoreima Haoreima (talk) 07:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
I think they do something like that on the Italian Wikipedia as well, but I'm not sure because my only activity there is reverting vandalism on my own talk page SHB2000 (talk) 07:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Hey SHB2000! I have a question! Do you have any knowledge about which is the fastest growing wikipedia in the WMF? Regarding the number of articles. I don't know which one it is exactly. But for mni wiki, it's created in February, 2021, and now it exceeded 5000+ articles. So, I was thinking about this! :) :-) Haoreima (talk) 07:53, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm not too sure what it is, but I think it's the English Wikipedia. They get about a hundred new articles every day. But if you look at all WMF sites, including sister projects, that would probably be the English Wiktionary. SHB2000 (talk) 07:56, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 I think Cebuano Wikipedia might soon become the largest wiki. Now, it's 2nd. And, once I have heard that there's a man who used bot to create 10,000 articles everyday for the Cebuano Wikipedia. Most of the articles are stubs. Haoreima (talk) 07:59, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The bot issue has been a long issue on both the Cebuano and the Waray Wikipedias where 90% of the articles are written by bots. To be fair, I'm not even sure if the bot's articles even grammatically make sense or not though. SHB2000 (talk) 08:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Yeah, but to have such fame for being big, sometimes, I wish to use bots for mni. But the only problem is that I don't have any knowledge about the operation of bot. :) :-) Haoreima (talk) 08:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The bot path however, is very risky, unless there's a similar large regional language (something like Bengali or Nepali but it can be dead languages too like Sanskrit or Pali) that uses the same formatting and language conventions as Meitei. Even if that was the case, we also don't want another Scots Wikipedia incident where Scots is very similar to English SHB2000 (talk) 08:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 I have the native level knowledge in Hindi, Manipuri & near native in Urdu, Bengali & basic in Assamese & Arabic (probably MSA) too! And, currently trying to learn Iraqi Arabic! Will this make me ok for using bots? And I don't know how that boy gains the admin rights when he doesn't know Scots! It's also the faults of those who voted him in the RFA! Haoreima (talk) 08:30, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
It's not really an issue with your knowledge, but I'm concerned if the bot makes grammatical errors and all that (even google translate does this, and it's much easier to translate things with Google Translate). And re the Scots Wikipedia incident, the issue there was that there were no native Scots speakers over there so all the admins there don't know how to speak Scots. But I think after the incident, while several articles were deleted, it did bring the attention of numerous native Scots speakers to fix those issues up. SHB2000 (talk) 08:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Wow! Then, I wish to become admin for Scots. :) :-) :-) As far as I know, google translate offers only Scots Gaelic language, and not for Scots language and Scottish language. So, I don't know how they manage to edit Scots language Wikipedia. Haoreima (talk) 08:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
And then there's Bot-Jagwar, a bot that has basically created so many entries on the Malagasy Wiktionary + a lot of other wikis as well with large amounts of factual errors. Oh and did I forget, there's Bot-Jagwar II as well. And you know what, there's a third bot as well, run by the same person Ikotobaity. I think there's a fourth one, but I'm not too sure. There's a discussion going on about this on m:Requests for comment/Large-scale errors at Malagasy Wiktionary about these few bots. SHB2000 (talk) 12:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
SHB2000 Wow, the meta page you show me is recommended for translation. It's the first time I am experiencing such RfC like stuffs for translations. :) :-) So, I did it for mni too like this m:Requests for comment/Large-scale errors at Malagasy Wiktionary/mni (m:ꯑꯅꯤꯡꯕ ꯐꯣꯡꯗꯣꯛꯂꯛꯅꯕ ꯍꯥꯢꯖꯕ/ꯆꯥꯡ ꯌꯥꯝꯅ ꯁꯣꯢꯕꯁꯤꯡ ꯃꯦꯂꯦꯒꯦꯁꯤ ꯋꯤꯛꯁꯟꯅꯔꯤꯗ) just now. And another thing, yes, whatever you are saying about the bots might be true. It's due to some bad bots that defame people's view towards bots. However, not all the bots are improper. Many are also doing good. So, I am planning about one such after some time. Can you tell me from where shall I request for such privilege? Haoreima (talk) 14:50, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Most bots out there are good, but there's some bad ones as well. But yet the worst one I have seen is Babel AutoCreate, much worse than Jagwar's bots. SHB2000 (talk) 01:07, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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Wiki Loves Women 2021Edit

After careful consideration, it seems that third prize is a tie. Congratulations on your win and thank you for bringing such fine articles to the Simple English Wikipedia! Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Darkfrog24 Thanks! :) Haoreima (talk) 03:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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Image removedEdit

Hi there - please forgive me, I was working on a large number of pages at the same time and deleted the image from the page as it was blocking most of the article text. I was going to restore it when I had finished the pages I was working on but I will restore it now - thank you for letting me know. Bobo. 11:56, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Writer's Barnstar
While going through the list of pages, I saw many pages that you created. This star is for creating pages on unique topics that were never covered on Wikipedia before.-BRP ever 01:30, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
@BRPever: Thank you so much, Sir! Have a good day! :) Haoreima (talk) 02:25, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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WLWSA-2021 Newsletter #6 (Request to provide information)Edit

Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021
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Thank you for participating in the Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 contest. Please fill out this form and help us to complete the next steps including awarding prizes and certificates.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out the organizing team via emailing @here or discuss on the Meta-wiki talk page

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