Every now & then we get editors changing words on the basis of their ideas on what is simple. Words also have to be accurate (we are an encyclopedia).

  • Big: certainly simple and popular with children, but a term almost never to be used about living things. Is a giraffe bigger than an elephant? Think about it. It is almost always better to use a more exact word, such as longer, heavier. Is a star big? Does that mean its apparent size or its intrinsic size? Ditto stars being bright.
  • Rich is an ambiguous word. A cake can be rich, and a person can be rich. However, only a person can be wealthy, so prefer that word. Neither word is on the extended list of simple words, incidentally, so use the more precise word.
  • Very: another childhood favourite. In spoken English it is an intensifier, but it has almost no function in prose. It may be the most frequent word copy editors cut out as redundant.
  • Die: we all die, but species become extinct.
Now here's the tricky bit. Technically, a species which is not extinct is extant. Extant is the opposite of extinct. However it is a very rare word, and we use the common word "living". So we talk about living species. It sounds natural, and is right for us.
  • Animal: that includes jellyfish and beetles. If you mean mammals, say so.
  • Reside: On Simple you don't reside somewhere, you live there.
  • Rare: an essential word in ecology, and supported by definitions in the literature. Steaks can also be rare, but that would not be good to use on Simple.

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Carom billiardsEdit

I've put this discussion on the talk page of Carom billiards. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:40, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Hope TalaEdit

Hi again! I'm going to take a look at billiards in a moment, but I noticed that you deleted Hope Tala, an article currently at RFD. While I agree that articles obviously not meeting the scope of the project should be deleted, I felt that Hope Tala had a legitimate reason to be included on the project. She is getting quite a bit of attention and significant coverage in the UK and is scheduled at a major festival in France later this year. Do you think that that article is recoverable so that it can be worked on? Best, Griff (talk) 18:37, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, it seems to me that if the biog being discussed on En wiki is kept, then we should do likewise. We can safely follow En in cases of specialised expertise. The present status of the En wiki draft is "waiting for review". Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:07, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Star systemEdit

I've put this discussion on the talk page of Star system. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:51, 23 July 2022 (UTC)


Hello, I've noticed that you're interested in biology topics, so I was wondering if you could review the article on osmoregulation that I expanded. Thanks! Lights and freedom (talk) 21:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, you couldn't have chosen a more difficult topic! Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Changing what I sayEdit

Could you do me a favor and not edit what I say. It is one thing to correct an edit to an article or fixing an error in how something is rendered ( [blah]] instead of [[blah]] ), but to edit my opinion on a matter is entirely different even if it is just poor spelling/typos. --Creol(talk) 18:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I do apologise. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Category:Female scientistsEdit

An editor has requested deletion of Category:Female scientists, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Category:Female scientists and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

I need your opinionEdit

Hi, I noticed your watchfulness relating to my recent edits. So, could you look at this edit? Did not I go too far this time? (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

OK, my thoughts are these:
1. In general, a word like "abysmal" would be changed as you suggest. But this is a direct quotation of something published elsewhere. In that case, we leave the words unchanged. Sometimes the word can be explained after the quote, or in a footnote. Sometimes a quote can be shortened by using ... where words have been left out.
2. "Used" instead of "employed" is good, in this context. But the sentence is far too long, and needs to be broken down into two or three sentences. Try putting a full stop after U.S. and adjusting the rest of the sentence. Also, you see I write U.S. with full points after each letter. That's a formality which does not increase difficulty, but shows respect for the traditional way of writing used in most books. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:26, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
A thought added later. It's quite time-consuming to edit properly, so choose your time wisely. Don't try to do something complex until you have time to do it well. I see a lot of editing which has been done too quickly. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Wow. I am really impressed with you response. So I corrected the article (hopefully) according to your suggestions. Though I have no idea if I have met your expectations. Thank you :-) BTW, do you see anything wrong or unnatural in my English? (talk) 22:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
I've adjusted your page Human rights in Uzbekistan to illustrate how to do it in Simple English. Move into the active tense whenever possible. Oh, goodness, I see we don't have a page titled "Active tense". How did that happen? Maybe it's called something else. I've put in a link. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Active voice? Oh, definitely. I even felt that something was wrong. Now I see that instead of "this edit is made after consulting with...", I could have written: "I made this edit after consulting with...". Thank you for pointing this out. I really appreciate your advice. (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I think it's usually called active voice. There is an article for that (voice (grammar)), but it mostly talks about the passive voice. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
@User:Lights and freedom A very good link. Thanks :-) (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think Earth was demoted from GAEdit

You removed the good article tag from Earth: Special:PermanentLink/7619721 but I think it was still supposed to be a good article. It was promoted here: Special:PermanentLink/1672992 after this discussion: Wikipedia:Proposed good articles/Archive 6#Earth 4, and I don't see any evidence that it was demoted. Lights and freedom (talk) 23:51, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Apparently I did that, and my comments were put on the talk page. The core of it was the explanation of why the Earth goes round the Sun, which is inadequate. Apparently, from my comment, I thought it had been delisted. Sorry. Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
(But it should have been delisted, because that is a very serious complaint)! Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:58, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Father's dayEdit

Hi, Can you please hide this edit because it contains bad and offensive language, thanks. Kiro Bassem (talk) 19:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

It's just vandalism, we don't hide that. Obscene language against a person would be different. Others will read this, and they can make their own minds up. I think hiding bad edits is a last resort, but thank you for taking an interest. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


I think Eemium should be Eemian. Lights and freedom (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


Do you think you could attempt to simplify the article threat? A few issues stood out:

  • "A threat is basically a declaration of intent to cause punishment or harm or loss on another." - the words "declaration" and "intent" make it hard to read
  • "one that is promises harm that cannot or will not actually be inflicted." - mainly the word "inflicted"
  • "To encourage compliance" - the word "compliance"
  • "The threat part may be implied, yet effective." - the words "implied" and "effective"

Maybe changing from passive voice to active voice would help? Lights and freedom (talk) 05:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I didn't think it was that bad, except for the introduction, which I re-wrote. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
It's good now. I just thought, if the article doesn't use simple words, what's the point? Lights and freedom (talk) 15:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Well, yes! Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Web host violationEdit

Does this wiki have a webhost violation policy? I think this page should be deleted. What do you think? This user tried to create this article in several wikis. He is blocked in bnwiki for x-wiki spamming. —Yahya (talkcontribs.) 13:41, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

So long as the article is in one if his sub-pages {User:forward-slanting slash) it does not appear on the general wiki as a page. If the user is not using the facility at the present, maybe no problem. But the point about his block may be relevant. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

EFEM article deletionEdit

User:Macdonald-ross Hello Sir quick question why did you delete article EFEM with 17 refereces could you please stop abusing with your privileges this artist is notable and now i will call all administrators in talk page to see if this article has criteria you cant do this https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFEM92.105.153.188 (talk) 22:20, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) IP editor - First this is not misuse of any administrator rights. Secondly back in May this article was brought up as a request for deletion Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/EFEM and it was deleted per policy as you can see in the RfD. If the article does not have reliable and trustworthy sources then it does not meet the criteria needed to be on Wikipedia. Lastly stating that an admin has abused their privileges and stating you are gonna have other administrators come to this discussion can be seen as violating the policy of assuming good faith. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:29, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
I think you are wrong this artist has reliable, trustworthy sources if you think Albanian press are not reliable you are wrong many of this tv news sources has wiki already they are all reliable before it was deleted because of Racism So he has Albanian Wikipedia already and he has wikidata but his name sometimes does not show on google because it has many business Similar name as restaurant company and others now i can tag here many wiki that has less niformations then this artist please do not use your privileges just because you can Kepp the article because it meets the criteria he is public figure in albania kosovo Nord macedonien Montenegro (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
check this please is in english just ju can search for for rtv21 on wikipedia he is on this and you can also read in englsih http://en.rtv21.tv/efem-publikon-kengen-e-re-shake-it/ (talk) 22:51, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
This was not a one person decision. This was a decision made by the community here on Wikipedia. You can ask to have it go to Wikipedia:Deletion review to request review, however, since it is already on there with a consensus of delete as well, and based on the references you listed I personally do not see this status changing. I would encourage you to not push this as the exact same things you are saying here you said under a different IP. I say this because of what words and references you are giving match word for word. This can immediately get you blocked. At this point I will not respond any further as this should now go to an admin. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:00, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
You can already see there was also 3 people for to keep it but Unfortunately was deleted could you sugest this article what should be diferent for this article to meet criteria on your opinon what should be changed thank You (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Go to WP:DRV if you have a problem with deletion. It was deleted based on consensus. The argument of basing notability on the number of sources is invalid unless it meets one of the notability criteria. BRP ever 23:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
could you please list for me one notability criteria which one is more important which you consider, for example searching in google the name of the artist and if it shows nothing, then this means is not notable ? because press in Albanian langue google doesn't detect it this is the problem
Thank You (talk) 00:22, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
I cannot do that. Criteria is set by community after community consensus.-- BRP ever 00:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Sources for medicine articlesEdit

Hi Mac. I think you've worked a lot on medical articles, or so it seems from the award on your talk page. On enwiki, they have strict requirements for the sources at en:WP:MEDRS, so much that I'm scared to edit them. A lot of medical articles here have no sources at all. Do we have to follow that guideline, or can we use websites like Mayo Clinic and National Institutes of Health instead? Lights and freedom (talk) 03:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

We can use NIH and Mayo Clinic as sources happily. Probably En has formed their system to prevent the huge commercial interests from getting their foot into En pages. Nevertheless, we need to be aware that medicine is perhaps the most critical topic with respect to advertisements. Incidentally, pages which describe how the body works are not really medical pages, just general information which everyone should have. Pages that describe illnesses and above all treatments are where the advertisement issue may be a live one. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:22, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Okay thanks. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
@Lights and freedom When you use those sites they have their sources used (typically at the bottom or where the portion of the article ends) and you can dive into those and use those as sources if you wanted to as well. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

It seem that sources on this wiki don't need to be in Simple English - am I right? If so why not just use the same en:WP:MEDRS sources the enwiki article about the subject uses? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Obviously, there is a reason, and the reason is: to be meaningful, a source has to be accessible to the reader. "Accessible" means it can be found, read and understood by the user. Ask yourself whether the average Simple reader is going to cope with sources which (I assure you) tax the best medical students at university level. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


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Pull TP and EmailEdit

Can you pull them on 2A01:B340:63:FEC5:18F0:4E9A:6B68:F8D7 please? Thx Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:39, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Recent blockEdit

Are you sure you want to block that IP address indefinitely? I know that the edits were bad but we don't normally block IP addresses for that long, do we? Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Hockeycatcat Sometimes it can be indefinite based on the history and how many times they have been blocked. There may be something in the background we don’t know because we don’t have access to those pages. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Nope, IPs should never be blocked indefinitely because IPs change. Even proxies are only blocked for a few years at most. Apart from deleted contributions, there is nothing more admins can see compared to non-admins. And this IP in particular only edited today. --Ferien (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien Unless it is static to that user and they are using it for some type of evasion. I see the stewards doing it all the time. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:28, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Ferien is correct; I've changed it. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:30, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Even for very long-term users, you don't need to block for indefinite. That is pretty much the only exception enwiki describes but I don't think indef blocks are even appropriate for that. If things get really really bad, then you could block for years at a time instead. On enwiki, where indefinite blocks are sometimes used on purpose, there has only been one IP indefinite block in 2022, and by the looks of it, it was an accident! --Ferien (talk) 14:54, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien There are exceptions listed lol Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


Hello, excuse me, what does C.E. mean? N1TH Music (talk) 19:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It stands for Copy Edit. Wikipedia:How_to_copy-edit Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:05, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb And were my edits considered overdetailed? N1TH Music (talk) 07:22, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
  • I don't think this discussion belongs here. It has nothing to do with me. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:25, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
    (talk page stalker) Hey Mac - They are asking you because you did the CE. on Blackslough. It looks like you removed all of the census tables. They ask me the same things too. I cannot speak on your behalf for your reasoning, even though I have some thoughts. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:52, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
  • I think this is a perfectly good page as it is now, and needs no further changes. Move on. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
    Well as is, there's no established notability. The place isn't populated now and before I discovered the census data I had made an article on enWiki which was deleted for not being notable. It's not a populated place now, it isn't a very important forest, without the historical sources (e.g the census data) there's nothing or real substance in the article. Granted there are some modern sources which can talk about the geography, history, conservation and recreation of the area, but again nobody cares about the history of a forest but a former settlement matters more. N1TH Music (talk) 09:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Take to RfD if not satisfied. Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
    @Macdonald-ross The Data is there, the data which proves notability, there's no need to take it to Rfd if we just include the necessary details in the article. I've simplified it a bit. Removing the decades without a clear table as a reference, and I'm sure it's ok now. (Just needs more a little expanding. N1TH Music (talk) 13:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

LaFlia ContenidosEdit

Being dealt with in WP:RFU. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Priyanka Rani JoshiEdit

Hi there, I saw that you quickly deleted one of the pages that I created, and I didn't even get any notifications regarding it. She passed WP:MODEL and WP:BIO and has won the Miss Nepal World title. I request you to restore the page.  DIVINE  09:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

It's obvious that the proposer and myself did not think notability was established. The place to consider this would be WP:Deletion review. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Breach (band)Edit

Could you please undelete Breach (band)? It wasn't a redirect... Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The page still does not establish the band's notability. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Block extensionEdit

In your recent block, the IPs making the racist edits are from this IPv6 range: 2607:FEA8:FE10:8045:0:0:0:0/64, could you extend the block to that range? thanks. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 08:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

And that's all of them!Edit

Thank you for deleting all those pages! Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 17:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Archiving your TPEdit

Hi Mac,

So the logs of PDLBotArchiver (the automated bot to archive pages) show that it cannot archive your talk page due to the ending of your config. Can you move the closing }} to their own line below it. You can see an example at User_talk:PotsdamLamb/testarchive/mac. This will allow it to be archived on the next run at 0:00 UTC. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:22, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi I saw your changes. I meant on your Miszabot/config at the top of your page when in edit mode, it should look like |minthreadstoarchive = 1
I hope that helps. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)