Talk:Elizabeth II

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Suggestion - Simplify "heir to the throne after his mother's death or abdication" to "who will become King after..." -- 22:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Seconded - I'll make the change.Berek 22:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Prime ministerEdit

Someone around here is one their toes! Thanks for the correction! Amandajm (talk) 23:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


Somebody needs to split this article, it's huge (by simple standards). Griffinofwales (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree that it is big, but I don't think a split is needed. Mythdon (talkchanges) 22:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Over 32kb (40kb something). The automatic warning pops up. That's why I brought it here. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I still disagree with the split. Mythdon (talkchanges) 23:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps before asking whether it should be split, we should ask how Griffin suggests it be split? --Philosopher Let us reason together. 06:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Queen's familyEdit

I removed this for discussion:

Her family, which is German in origin (House of Hanover),<ref>[[House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha]] since [[1901]]; renamed [[House of Windsor]] in 1917.</ref> has ruled Britain since 1714.

Previously there was a generalised statement that said something to the effect that members of the Queen's family had ruled England for about a thousand years.

The present statement is rather bald and misleading. The origins of the the present monarch go back much further than the House of Hanover. If that were not the case, then a member of the house of Hanover would not have come to the throne at all. The Queen is descended from James II, but not through the male line, which was the most direct line. The lineage of Prince Charles connects him to almost every British monarch to have had issue, but not Charles II. Prince William, through Diana, is descended from Charle II as well.

Basically, the House of Hanover bit either needs explaining fully (which is ancient history and not necessary to this article), or leaving out as too complex and intrusive, because the article is long already. Amandajm (talk) 09:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

VGA reviewEdit

A good-quality article, Eptalon, but I have a few concerns. :)

  • a "short video" in the "Other websites" section, reference 10, and reference 31 are both dead. Reference number 30 seems to be a bare url link. All the "Other websites" should be written with a {{citeweb}} template.
  • The method of explaining complex words is inconsistent throughout the article. Abdicated is italicized and explained in parentheses as abdicated (gave up his throne), while heir presumptive is italicized and explained in small parentheses. Then, evacuated is explained as "evacuated" (moved to safety). Which?
  • Some quotes are referenced in different ways. In the "Military Career" section, the reference is directly before the quote:

On her 21st birthday, she made a broadcast to the British Commonwealth and Empire, pledging:[14] “ I declare before you all that my whole life, whether it be long or short, shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong. ”

But on the "Faith and Duty" section the reference comes directly after the quote:

She said: “ To many of us, our beliefs are of fundamental importance. For me, the teachings of Christ, and my own personal accountability before God provide a framework in which I try to lead my life. I, like so many of you, have drawn great comfort in difficult times from Christ's words and example.[29] ”

  • The Queen has often shown her courage, ever since she joined the military at 18, and drove an ambulance in London, while the city was being bombed. <-- the commas make this sentence sound rather awkward. Can this be fixed or reworded?
  • When she appeared with a plaster on her arm, there was a rumour that she was sick, and needed "intravenous" treatment. But in fact, she had been bitten while stopping her dogs from fighting. The Queen is very rarely sick, but lately, has had some problems with her back. Since her 80th birthday, the Queen is leaving more duties to the younger members of the Royal Family, particularly to Prince Charles, who will one day follow her as the reigning monarch. <-- this paragraph needs a reference.

Hopefully I'll be able to do a more thorough review soon if these are fixed. Kindly, —Clementina talk 09:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

  • I think the article is ready for a good article review. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Complex tagEdit

Is the complex tag really necessary for this article? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

ujj Ujjwal Bastola (talk) 06:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Wording of introEdit

Now the wording reflects the accurate fact that her monarchy of the UK is primary, and of the other countries consequential. If she were not queen of the UK, she would not be queen of the other countries. However, other countries could decide not to have her as the head of state. That has happened, and does not affect her being head of state elsewhere. This is obvious, but the previous wording had obscured it. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:34, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

A court case established in 1954 that the naturalization Prince Philip went through in 1947 had not been necessary,as the Sophia Naturalization Act (repealed in 1948) gave British nationality to all descendants of the Electress I inserted "officially".(The then head of the House of Hanover sued for recognition as British and won).Also,in her coronation video South Africa is named as a country of which she was Queen. (talk) 05:33, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Illegitimacy: strange sentenceEdit

[quote]Elizabeth II as the year 2012 abdicated her seat over all mentioned above countries as she has admitted to being illegitimate born to George VI. George VI was not the son of Edward VII, he was the illegitimate son of Tsar Alexander III. This makes the family of Elizabeth II, including her Mother, children, grandchildren and great children illegitimate to the Thrown of England and all independent Commonwealth realms.[/quote]

Strange english, no reference, and not part of the "normal" wikipedia page. Is this for real?

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