Talk:Jane Anger
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changeThe article should say what's in the book. Right now, it says what Anger was responding to and why she was important, but it doesn't say what she said. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Can you fix the sources please to include the isbn’s and such so they can be looked up? Since you’re having a blast. I’ll check your work when your done and QD it then lol! Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't add any of the sources and don't have access to them, so I wouldn't know what ISBNs they have. Since Alperen translated this article from en.wiki, A might not know either. That reminds me... Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Alperen:, we need to know which version of the en.wiki article you used as a starter so we can credit the Wikieditors who did the research and drafting. Was it this one? [1] Then we'd put the number in the end of the URL in our translation template like this: {{translated|en|Jane Anger|version=1156683271}} Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the version I used for starter.--Alperen (talk) 16:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent. I have placed the template on this talk page to give our en.wiki counterparts their due, per WP:TA. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the version I used for starter.--Alperen (talk) 16:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 It is pretty easy actually. I search for the title on google look at the amazon link to find the right edition and then grab the ISBN from there then do a cite book and use the ISBN to fill in the details. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 20:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 & @Alperen I completed the references and set them up correctly. Please double check and enjoy! Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 22:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm feeling iffy about that. How are you making sure you got the same version of the book that the original contributor actually used? Sometimes more than one version of the book comes out the same year. A hardcover and audiobook often will, and don't they have different ISBNs? Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 They do, however, the book that was originally put in I could not find anything for that year and by the author. This was the closest I could find. If you are able to find it let me know please. I checked every source I could and because it was not properly sourced in the first place, I had to make a judgement call. Most books may have a different author, especially within the same genre. ISBNs are published per work and do not get reused. Perhaps this can explain it better ISBN FAQs. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 To make sure I am getting the right version, I search for the title first (sometimes that does not always work) so I will search by author. Once I find what I think it is, I match the rest of the information from the citation used (title, author, date, publisher). Once it is matched, I can get the ISBN to use. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- PDL, I'm going to bring this up at Simple Talk because I think we've gotten away from Jane Anger. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Not quite sure what you mean. This is something I do for all articles that have varying degrees of references. Typically it is to fix the harv/sfn errors as the citations don't come over or the book comes over but not the in-line citation (99% of the cases). Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I mean I think you shouldn't add ISBN information in this way because you may be adding ISBNs that point to books other than the specific version the original writer used. It's better to leave it blank than to point a reader in the wrong direction. Versions of the same book printed in different countries might have different ISBNs. Can you tell which version of The Hemingses of Monticello I used for Martin Hemings? I hit Google and got fourteen different ISBNs. Hit up Simple Talk and get your two cents in first. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 My best call is * Gordon-Reed, Annette (2008-08-26). The Hemingses of Monticello. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06477-3.; preview is available at:
- Google Books
- Publisher website: Norton Publishers Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:49, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 So here is one example of one I cannot do. It supposedly has an ISBN of 979-8637271252, however, no record exists of it, but it is marked in the book as having it. So I would just add the ISBN to the citation. If you run it through Citer it comes up as not found. A search on google for it shows it exists though. It appears to be individually published. It is on Amazon with it. So that is the ISBN I would use since it was issued by the authority responsible in Germany, however, no other book has this ISBN. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- And if I were to tell you that is definitely not the ISBN of the version of the book I used? Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then point me to the one you used please. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- And if I were to tell you that is definitely not the ISBN of the version of the book I used? Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 So here is one example of one I cannot do. It supposedly has an ISBN of 979-8637271252, however, no record exists of it, but it is marked in the book as having it. So I would just add the ISBN to the citation. If you run it through Citer it comes up as not found. A search on google for it shows it exists though. It appears to be individually published. It is on Amazon with it. So that is the ISBN I would use since it was issued by the authority responsible in Germany, however, no other book has this ISBN. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I mean I think you shouldn't add ISBN information in this way because you may be adding ISBNs that point to books other than the specific version the original writer used. It's better to leave it blank than to point a reader in the wrong direction. Versions of the same book printed in different countries might have different ISBNs. Can you tell which version of The Hemingses of Monticello I used for Martin Hemings? I hit Google and got fourteen different ISBNs. Hit up Simple Talk and get your two cents in first. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 Not quite sure what you mean. This is something I do for all articles that have varying degrees of references. Typically it is to fix the harv/sfn errors as the citations don't come over or the book comes over but not the in-line citation (99% of the cases). Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- PDL, I'm going to bring this up at Simple Talk because I think we've gotten away from Jane Anger. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 To make sure I am getting the right version, I search for the title first (sometimes that does not always work) so I will search by author. Once I find what I think it is, I match the rest of the information from the citation used (title, author, date, publisher). Once it is matched, I can get the ISBN to use. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 They do, however, the book that was originally put in I could not find anything for that year and by the author. This was the closest I could find. If you are able to find it let me know please. I checked every source I could and because it was not properly sourced in the first place, I had to make a judgement call. Most books may have a different author, especially within the same genre. ISBNs are published per work and do not get reused. Perhaps this can explain it better ISBN FAQs. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm feeling iffy about that. How are you making sure you got the same version of the book that the original contributor actually used? Sometimes more than one version of the book comes out the same year. A hardcover and audiobook often will, and don't they have different ISBNs? Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 & @Alperen I completed the references and set them up correctly. Please double check and enjoy! Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 22:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Alperen:, we need to know which version of the en.wiki article you used as a starter so we can credit the Wikieditors who did the research and drafting. Was it this one? [1] Then we'd put the number in the end of the URL in our translation template like this: {{translated|en|Jane Anger|version=1156683271}} Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't add any of the sources and don't have access to them, so I wouldn't know what ISBNs they have. Since Alperen translated this article from en.wiki, A might not know either. That reminds me... Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)