Talk:SpaceX Starship

Good (or "good enough")?

• " It has a first stage named Super Heavy, and a spacecraft named Starship. Both stages ".
  The words are simple, however can this text be improved? 89.8.125.206 (talk) 08:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

  I just make it as a list, so that this chunk of information is easier to read. Thanks for spotting it out! CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

• "crushed itself".
  The first time this is mentioned, it needs a precise explanation (perhaps: "the outside forces become so great, that the structure implodes (or crushes))". Thereafter in the wiki-article, I see some advantage in using the simple phrases: "crush itself"/"crushed itself". 89.8.102.224 (talk) 10:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• "As of October 2021, SpaceX again skipped some Starship and Super Heavy."
  Something seems to be missing - I am not sure if adding the word "missions", will make things right. 89.8.102.224 (talk) 15:34, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• "to see Starship entering the atmosphere".
  Comment: It/they are already in the atmosphere. "To enter the atmosphere" is only used about a spacecraft coming from outer space and into the Earth's atmosphere. 89.8.165.189 (talk) 15:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

New changes

@CactiStaccingCrane: I think the article's language might be a little too simple Nigos (talk | changes) 06:11, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, will yeet it and build it again lol CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

... What is the name of this wikipedia? We should simplify it as much as possible until the point that:

• phrases are repeatedly used to explain a singular word
• information held in complex words are lost due to lack of detail
• the article size massively increases due to phrases instead of singular words replacing complex words

These are self made observations, and I think the article is actually more complex than it needs to be. Try stuffing it into a reading scale and ideally aim for grade 5. No less, no more.

💠Ely - Talk💠 06:17, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Agree, it is time to nuke the article and build it again I guess :) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

@Elytrian Do you think the lede is good now? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:42, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

That's true, I guess it should be simplified more then Nigos (talk | changes) 14:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Should SI units be in front of US imperial units, or should the US units be in front? Nigos (talk | changes) 14:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

SI in front. Lede is good. 💠Ely - Talk💠 06:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Infobox (not accurate)

"Launch history
Status
Building or structure under construction ". 2001:2020:307:955C:DDA7:4EB4:2357:CE78 (talk) 16:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Text has been removed. 2001:2020:32F:ECE9:950F:A575:93E6:A963 (talk) 21:05, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Moved to discussion

"As of October 2021, SpaceX again skipped some Starship and Super Heavy. They are SN16, SN17, SN18, and SN19."--This is at least partially in error.--Flights and test flights will be done by notable spacecrafts, while some spacecraft will not make the cut, for whatever reason. 2001:2020:307:955C:1CCB:CB10:98D3:FC25 (talk) 19:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Starting the article on the right foot?

"Starship is a rocket made out of stainless steel by SpaceX, a company that works in the atmosphere and space".--Please anyone, make the start of this article, good enough. (I will be looking at other challenges, in regard to the article.) 2001:2020:32F:A3C0:ACBF:8E7A:4CE9:D57A (talk) 15:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
A partial suggestion of what can be said: "... a company that builds and sends rockets between Earth and space". 2001:2020:32F:A3C0:ACBF:8E7A:4CE9:D57A (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done. (Thanks to user:Angerxiety). 2001:2020:32F:A3C0:80E:FC2C:BB98:750A (talk) 18:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Attribution

I have copied a table from en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SpaceX_Starship_orbital_test_flight&oldid=1151856055. 2001:2020:32F:A3C0:80E:FC2C:BB98:750A (talk) 18:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Please remove (if no one has idea how the text should be improved)

The Space Shuttle could only carry 27.5 metric tons (61,000 lb) to the International Space Station, however.

[Needs fixing or removal from article:]

In this example, the International Space Station has an even lower orbit than Starship.

{{Efn|The International Space Station orbits 407 km (253 mi) high at 51.64° inclination. Starship in this case orbits 500 km (310 mi) high at 98.9° inclination.

Comment: I will be busy looking at other challenges in this article. 2001:2020:32F:ECE9:A9F9:2DBE:10B2:FD03 (talk) 17:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Refs

2001:2020:32F:ECE9:A9F9:2DBE:10B2:FD03 (talk) 17:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

"evaporates the heat"

I would like a second opinion, that those 3 words are unlikely to be a good fit.--Afterwards, anyone or myself, can try to knock that into better shape. Thanks, 2001:2020:333:F9E3:950E:B686:7096:338E (talk) 20:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)