Wikipedia talk:Basic English combined wordlist/Archive 1

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Topics from 2006-2007

Sac?

Under S:Next I see "sac" listed, but "sack" doesn't appear in the list at all. Is this a typo? Hv 13:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so[1]. Probably referring to a bioloical/anatomical use--the container appears to be covered at 'bag'. 165.121.27.196 20:22, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Namespace

Should this be in the main namespace when the BE850 is in the project namespace? --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 00:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Birefringence?

Surely this is an error?Sue W 00:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No. I reacted too, but it can actually be found here! In the geology part, so possibly the geologists talk about birefringence day and night to everyone... Rursus (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Dictionary entries

This list seems to contain basic words that should be important in a dictionary. If this is an encyclopedia, maybe we should have a list like en:WP:VA. Would that be useful? -Selket 18:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The word: load

load is listed twice. 134.94.165.151 08:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• See below: #Updates for count and duplicates. -Wikid77 (talk) 17:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Topics from 2008-2009

zookeeper.

funny how it mentions 'zookeeper' but not 'zoo'. is the article lacking here, or the official list? en:user:lygophile

"knowledge" but no "know", and since there's no "find", you can't find anything out in simple english. No "reasons", only "explanations". Gah! (mendel 84.128.247.113 (talk) 06:32, 12 May 2008 (UTC))

typo

under P:Next "purchase" is prefixed "wikt:"

typo

under C:Someone can't *spell* sorry spill colour. :-) LOL

It's the American spelling. Atitarev (talk) 00:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources!

What is the source for this article. Seems an important page. It says its an important page. It says its from a single source .... but what is it? Surely sourcing this page should have some urgency? Victuallers (talk) 14:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Unintended links

Dike links to the godess, clearly an oversight.--83.87.155.162 (talk) 10:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Now links to a disambiguation page. Dike was one of the Greek godesses, but probably not the reason it was on the Simple English word list. --Peterdownunder (talk) 11:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Meaning of "Next"?

Every letter section has a category called "Next:". What is that? I assume by it's positioning (between International: and Compound:) that it's about the "100 words of general interest, science or business, and 50 specialty words within that general area" from the first paragraph but, man, the article doesn't say so.

In the first place, there are far more than 150 "next" words in total, adding up all letters. (The letter A contains 37 words. Assuming that's average, 26 x 37 = 962.) And where are the "100 words of general interest, science or business"? Combined with the alphabetical list by letter? Does the "50 specialty words within that general area" mean 50 words for each letter? The first paragraph should so state.

And I agree with Victuallers; this article need at least one source!

Can someone please address this. I am terribly confused. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

A little later...

Found it.

The article was created by Netoholic, who has since retired. He used this for a series of Basic English articles and this in particular for this article. According to that source, this is not a list of the Basic English 1500 words (the redirect for BE 1500 is wrong!) and, although the source is labeled "2000 Basic English words", it also is not BE2000. The "Next" category comes from "the next steps"; that is, OGDEN's BASIC ENGLISH - The Next Steps to Reach the 1,500 Word Level.

I believe, based on the source, that the lead (the first paragraph before the warning) should be totally rewritten and category #3 ("100 words of general interest...) should be corrected. The category name "Next" should be changed to something like "Addendum" in all of the letter sections. I don't know what to do about the BE1500 redirect. (In enWP, I would propose deletion (via {{prod}}).

Since this means going against the wordlist warning, I want to get consensus. How about it? --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 02:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Silence gives consent. Or does it? Anyway, I've finished the changes above. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 01:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

What you are suggesting makes sense, keep up the good work. Silence does not mean that no one has noticed. --Peterdownunder (talk) 01:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Why "addendum"? That's definitely not a simple word to be using and this is one spot where we should probably encourage simple wording. Either way (talk) 01:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

If anyone can think of a better word (other than Next:, which made no sense), I would be glad to change the article. (Or you can do it yourself. :) Here is the source of the "Addendum" sublist. Bear in mind that the source of the combined list makes reference to the first addendum, although this is entitled "150 Next Step words" and it says in the text itself that the original list is lost! Have fun. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 12:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Next made perfect sense to me. -DJSasso (talk) 14:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Topics from 2010-2011

Updates for count and duplicates

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• There are 4 issues to consider changing on the page:

1. The word "load" (still duplicated in May 2010) should appear only once:

Old:  [[load]] • [[local]] • [[load]]

New: [[load]] • [[local]]

2. Linking word "purchase" as an article in Simple Wikipedia:

Old:  [[wikt:purchase|purchase]]

New: [[purchase]]

3. Writing "over 2,600" rather than "two thousand" near the top:

Old:  well over two thousand words

New: over 2,600 words

The original phrase as "over two thousand" has been misleading, as if saying that a student scored "well over 60" on a test, when the score was 86. The word count has been closer to 3 thousand, hence over 2,600.

4. Add see-also section, listing 2 terms in that section:

New: ==See also==

* [[Commonly misspelled words]] - includes documented list of misspellings

* [[glossary]] - a list of words defined at the end of a document, as used there

Those changes reflect all the issues, posted earlier, on this talk-page. -Wikid77 (talk) 17:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done - Griffinofwales (talk) 01:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

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