Ensahequ

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Help request

Hi, I know you haven't been on Simple English Wikipedia for a long time, but could I ask for your help with something? Lights and freedom (talk) 06:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @Lights and freedom:. What is about? --Ensahequ (talk) 15:25, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

I want to eventually make atom into a good article. I have made a draft for the article here. I saw that you started WikiProject Chemical Engineering here, so I thought you might have experience in chemistry. There are not many editors here who are highly educated in the sciences (I'm not, I'm just a student). Also, it seems you're not a native English speaker, so you could identify if the article is too complex. I would appreciate if you could look at my draft and make changes: whether scientific changes, or making it simpler. Thanks! Lights and freedom (talk) 01:34, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Lights and freedom, I made some change. The most important thing to care about is to understand that chemical elements are not atoms. Instead, chemical elements are types of atoms, like a classification. So it is not correct to say that gold is an atom, for example. And atoms have no names; instead chemical elements have names. I have not read all the page, however another common mistake is to confuse the meaning of "simple substance" (that means not a compound) with "chemical element". For example, hydrogen is a chemical element if we talk about the atom classification with the symbol H, but it is a simple substance if we talk about the gas H₂ (sometimes called "dihydrogen"). So the word "hydrogen" has two different meanings, like all the other names of chemical elements.

I have also deleted a part talking about gas, liquid and solids, because it is related to molecules, not atoms.

I think the concept of "cloud of electron" has probably be explained better, but this means to do not be simple anymore. Maybe you can ask to some expert of physics to check this definition and to keep it as simple as possible without changing its scientific meaning. --Ensahequ (talk) 09:53, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your changes. What you said about simple substances makes sense; maybe it should be written in the article. I think you might be misunderstanding the article, because it did not say that atoms had names. It says "there are many types of atoms, each with its own name, mass, and size", so it's talking about "types of atoms", that have a name, not the atoms themselves. The types of atoms are elements, which is then described in more detail.

If you have time, you might look at the sections "Electrons" and "How atoms interact", because they are the most chemistry-related sections. The rest of the article is more physics-related. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Lights and freedom: No misunderstanding, It was written "There are many different types of atoms, each with its own name, mass and size", then I have changed the sentence in "There are many different types of atoms, each with its own mass, size and number of constituents (protons, neutrons, electrons)."

Ok, I will have a look to those sections, too. --Ensahequ (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

That sentence was supposed to mean that each "type of atom" has its own name, mass, and size. Maybe it was too confusing. Lights and freedom (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)