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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-14

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Lidder Valley Please be bold and help translate this article! The Lidder Valley or Liddar Valley is a Himalayan sub-valley that forms the southeastern corner of Anantnag district in Indian-administered Kashmir. The Lidder River flows down the valley. The entrance to the valley lies 7 km northeast from Anantnag town and 62 km southeast from Srinagar, the summer capital of Jammu and Kashmir. It is a 40-km-long gorge valley with an average width of 3 km. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Users of the reading accessibility beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed. [1]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar). [2][3]

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation has an annual plan. The annual plan decides what the Wikimedia Foundation will work on. You can now read the draft key results for the Product and Technology department. They are suggestions for what results the Foundation wants from big technical changes from July 2024 to June 2025. You can comment on the talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Just have to say

You were always a good editor and you became an admin and crat while I was away and we need more like you that are active and are appreciated by everyone for being level headed, make sense of things and do a lot of good work. Barnstars are not always as good as saying it out loud, so I wanted to personally say it to you that you are very much appreciated. Thanks and edit well! - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 00:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you :) --Ferien (talk) 11:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Very welcome now get to studying or you will come out here and live with Trump in Florida! lmao Thanks and edit well! - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 12:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK

What are the requirements to make something a DYK? Thanks and edit well! - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 06:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb, the rules are on Wikipedia:Did you know#Rules --Ferien (talk) 11:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-15

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Operation Kraai Please be bold and help translate this article! Operation Kraai (Operation Crow) was a Dutch military offensive against the de facto Republic of Indonesia in December 1948 after negotiations failed. With the advantage of surprise the Dutch managed to capture the Indonesian Republic's temporary capital, Yogyakarta, and seized Indonesian leaders such as de facto Republican President Sukarno. This apparent military success was however followed by guerrilla warfare, while the violation of the Renville Agreement ceasefire diplomatically isolated the Dutch, leading to the Dutch–Indonesian Round Table Conference and recognition of the United States of Indonesia. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
• A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
• Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [4][5]
• Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [6]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [7][8]
• New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [9]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ferien. You have new messages at MathXplore's talk page.
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MathXplore (talk) 08:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-16

The winner this Translation of the week is ru:Павильон Росси (en:Rossi Pavilion) (fr:Pavillon Rossi) Please be bold and help translate this article! The Rossi Pavilion (Russian: Павильон Росси) is a pavilion on the bank of the Moyka River in the Mikhailovsky Garden in Saint Petersburg. It was designed by architect Carlo Rossi in the early 1820s and built in 1825 during his redevelopment of the garden. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [10][11]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [12][13]
• Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [14]
• A new variable page_last_edit_age will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [15]

Future changes

• Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
• Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the abuse_filter and abuse_filter_history tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [16]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ferien. You have new messages at MathXplore's talk page.
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MathXplore (talk) 07:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I am sending this talkback based on your recent statement about nomination (Special:Diff/9292543), and Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MathXplore (2nd nomination) has already started. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (talk) 07:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

The dwarf planets

Those little planets that an IP created is back and recreated them including removing the redirect you made on 1 Ceres. Thanks, and be well! - PDL^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 22:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

RVDL

Can you RVDL this[17] too? Looks offensive. DIVINE 18:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-17

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Devorà Ascarelli (it:Debora Ascarelli) (es:Devorà Ascarelli) Please be bold and help translate this article! Devorà Ascarelli was a 16th-century Italian poet living in Rome, Italy. Ascarelli may have been the first Jewish woman to have a book of her own work published. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [18]
• You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [19][20]

Future changes

• This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [21]

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Weird templates

Articles like Elliot Rodger, Peter Rodger, and Soumaya Akaaboune all have this weird template I don't know how to remove. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 16:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

There a lot of articles like that. Look what I found: Category:Pages from Ohio I put it up for QD 84Swagahh (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Shoot for the Stars and 84Swagahh: The changes all appear to have resulted from vandalism to Template:Aligned table, which is itself used on many templates, such as {{birth date and age}}. I have fully protected the template as a high-risk template, to prevent this from occuring again in the future. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 20:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Rajanyas

@Ferien sir, This @Rajanyas user has been blocked from English Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rajanyas. So please block this account from here also. Hcsrctu (talk) 06:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Hcsrctu, a user simply being blocked on the English Wikipedia is not grounds for blocking on this Wikipedia. We have the "one-strike" rule on this wiki that means less warning is required for users causing issues, however none of their edits have been reverted or appear to be issues as of right now. None of the other sockpuppets on the English Wikipedia have been blocked here either. So this editor will not be blocked, unless they start causing issues. --Ferien (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

hello, @Ferien. You look at his edits, Rajput, Chandel, Rajputization he added copied material from English Wiki which cannot be accepted here. And he has removed reliable/sourced/information. And he only does vandalism in articles, that's why he is blocked from English Wiki. Hcsrctu (talk) 14:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Inception

Hi, would you consider Inception to be complex? Kk.urban (talk) 21:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Kk.urban, yes, I would --Ferien (talk) 21:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Kk.urban (talk) 21:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ferien. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Kourage Beatz Nsi.
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MathXplore (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

MathXplore, thank you for letting me know. Please could you use {{ping}} for matters like these in future? Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 20:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Page should not be deleted

Hello Ferien I solved all the problems that were in the page, my request is please don't delete the page, thank you 27.255.50.82 (talk) 06:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add any comments you have to the request for deletion. Comments made here likely won't be seen by the admin who closes the discussion, who has to determine whether the article should be deleted or not. --Ferien (talk) 06:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Help

Hi @Ferien hope you are well can you take a look to this article and review the article and edit it and thank you Alimahmuttr (talk) 06:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Alimahmuttr Yesterday, while I was on my mobile phone, I went through it. I couldn't translate the references, but I will check on it later today. DIVINE 06:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@DIVINE don't worry i can help you with the Translations ^^ Alimahmuttr (talk) 06:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@DIVINE you can check this in English

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2149756/saudi-arabia

https://www.spa.gov.sa/en/N2038449

https://www.mewa.gov.sa/en/HowWeCanHelp/MinistryOfficials/Pages/main.aspx

https://www.meed.com/saudi-arabia-set-to-launch-renewable-energy-projects/

https://www.ksa.com/dr-fahad-abu-mouti-highlights-world-water-day-s-importance

https://wr.gov.sa/en/MediaCenter/Pages/%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%B2%D9%88-.aspx Alimahmuttr (talk) 06:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Fix this issue

Hello ferrain please don't delete Nabeil Schaik Wikipedia page i fixed this issue please i request 2402:E000:649:565B:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Ferien help please

Dear ferien please remove deletion on my Wikipedia page nabeil schaik i requested you please ferien i need your help. Wikiexpertma (talk) 09:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Why

Why are you allowing advertisements here? And all of your RFD states they appear to fail WP:GNG but you never explain why? DIVINE 14:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

DIVINE, I would try to answer your first question, but I don't know where I am allowing advertisements so I don't know what I can say to your question. If you could provide examples of advertisements I have allegedly allowed to exist here, I could answer your question and perhaps address your concerns better.

About RfDs, most of my recent nominations are from Category:Articles with topics that may not be notable which is heavily backlogged. Saying that a topic appears to fail WP:GNG or fails WP:GNG is a reason for deletion linking to guidelines. Now, I could go on about the sources in the article for each and every one, and explain my search results etc, but at the end of the day, the impact is the same, and when there are many non-notable articles that have built up in that category, I'd rather write a more concise reason. --Ferien (talk) 16:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

As an extension to this, I think your definition of advertisement is perhaps a bit more generous to deleting articles than G11 is. You said Sacaiah Shaw looks like an advertisement, but it just explains his life and career. I have also declined a few of your A4 nominations, where the article claims the person won awards, and these are claims of significance. --Ferien (talk) 17:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ferien Let me clarify that I am not making any allegations against you. I am simply curious because while Joel Smart didn't have any references to claim his notability, it went to AFD. I personally believe that we should search for sources on Google or elsewhere. I think we should not entertain such self-promotional articles (I mean, who wants to promote themselves?) with baseless claims on our project. Yes, I know different admins have their own opinions. I can see you're just wise. And again, it wasn't any allegation. Thanks. DIVINE 05:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

DIVINE, for what it's worth, we have had suggestions before for a QD criteria that needs a 5 minute notability check to determine whether we quick delete an article or not, but the community didn't support it. I'll have to find the link later. A4 doesn't say the claims have to be backed up, they just have to be there. People could abuse that fact and probably do. There was also a proposal for noindexing the articles that go to RfD so they got less attention during the week they were up, but I don't think it was done as it isn't technically possible. --Ferien (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, what I saw here on Simple English Wikipedia is that when someone creates an article, it starts indexing on Google from the very first moment without getting patrolled, unlike on English Wikipedia, where if someone marks it as reviewed, then only it starts indexing on Google. I think someone, whether it's you or anyone else, should contact the WMF technical team regarding that. DIVINE 10:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) sorry to barge in on this conversation, but it got me intrigued. On enwiki, there is a process w:NPP where articles are not indexed until they are either patrolled, or are around for 90 days. Obviously this is resource intensive, but what about a 5/10 day non-index window? Would the community get behind that? It would prevent the majority of QD articles from being indexed, and would allow obvious attack pages/poor articles from making the Google Search algorithm. I don't think a week would really cost us that much in terms of indexing. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@DIVINE and Lee Vilenski: The previous discussion I've been referring to about this was Wikipedia:Simple talk/Archive 133#Use of QD A4, which addresses much of what DIVINE has said already regarding why bureaucrats at the time haven't gone out to try and change NOINDEX for us, but Lee, what you mention about NPP on enwiki is actually a really good idea - I'm not active in NPP on en so I didn't know pages weren't indexed before being patrolled. We just don't have the number of people to maintain an AfC/NPP-style thing where all articles from anons or non-patrollers have to be approved before being indexed, but an approach of not indexing pages for 5-10 days sounds reasonable. Do you know about the process en had to go through to change NOINDEX so it could be applied to articles less than 90 days old? --Ferien (talk) 12:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't know the exact process, but I could ask. I used to do quite a bit of patrolling, so most articles on enwiki didn't take long to be indexed, but having a deadline meant that ones that slipped the net would be indexed eventually.

I'll ask someone how it works, because if we could delay indexing, it would prevent some article creations (vandalism/haux/attack) from hitting search engines and wouldn't mean we'd have to actively patrol pages. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the double edit on your talk, it looks like w:Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. Looks like it can be done by Controlling an entire namespace, via MediaWiki software settings. From a glance, you can open a phab ticket to have the namespace indexing changed. I don't see much of an issue of the mainspace indexing to be changed to 10 days. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@User:Lee Vilenski, I agree. 10 days sounds good. We should apply that here @Ferien. DIVINE 14:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: No worries about the double talk page edit. @DIVINE: I'm going to move this discussion to simple talk to try and gather more opinions on this before we make a fairly large configuration change. --Ferien (talk) 16:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Self-minnow

Plip!

Letting random edit summaries escape into mainspace. --Ferien (talk) 20:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Ferien Help please

Hello ferien, i hope you're fine, i humble request to you my Wikipedia article name (Nabeil Schaik) i solve this all problems in article so i requested you please don't delete my article. Wikiexpertma (talk) 08:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikiexpertma, as ive already said above, all comments should be added to the RfD. I am not going to close the RfD or withdraw my nomination because notability is not a problem with the article that can be solved. --Ferien (talk) 10:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-18

The winner this Translation of the week is en:1989 Serbian general election (sr:Председнички избори у Србији 1989.) (vi:Tổng tuyển cử Serbia 1989) Please be bold and help translate this article! General elections were held in Serbia, a constituent federal unit of SFR Yugoslavia, on 12 November 1989 to elect the president of the presidency of the Socialist Republic of Serbia and delegates of the Assembly of SR Serbia. Voting for delegates also took place on 10 and 30 November 1989. In addition to the general elections, local elections were held simultaneously. These were the first direct elections conducted after the adoption of the 1974 Yugoslav Constitution and the delegate electoral system, and the last elections conducted under a one-party system. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.

• The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [22]
• Seven new wikis have been created:
  • a Wikipedia in Betawi (w:bew:) [23]
  • a Wikipedia in Kusaal (w:kus:) [24]
  • a Wikipedia in Igala (w:igl:) [25]
  • a Wiktionary in Karakalpak (wikt:kaa:) [26]
  • a Wikisource in Burmese (s:my:) [27]
  • a Wikisource in Malay (s:ms:) [28]
  • a Wikisource in Georgian (s:ka:) [29]
• You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [30]
• Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.

Problems

• Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using mapstyle="osm". This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [31]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [32][33]

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