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Sorry!Edit

For this mistake. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker: No worries, it gets confusing when there are so many reverts going on. --Ferien (talk) 10:40, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

TBEdit

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Done --Ferien (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

A request on helping a new pageEdit

Hello Farien,

You recently placed a deletion request on the page I'm creating Josephs Quartzy (musician).

Can you please help me take a look at it and see if it contains required sources and it meets all the requirements please?..I think if not you can help me improve it because I'm really trying to make a great article?

Best Regards, (Wlovere (talk) 13:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

@Wlovere: Well, not that long ago (only a month ago) there was a request for deletion, see here. I don't think that he would have become more notable since then, and we should probably respect the consensus at the request for deletion by having the page deleted. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:14, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

First I assure you to respect your decision and it's true I saw the deleted page but the editor could do was adding any link he found on his way,this entity was notable a way back and you can go and prove it all by yourself on the notability links I provided I think I made a great catch on lots of them and I gave all 17 if there's any unwanted link can be removed by you the admins. Wlovere (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Wlovere: At the RfD, it was decided that Josephs Quartzy was not notable. We should respect the consensus there and delete the page. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:32, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I understand I'll be waiting for either responses from you and other admins(Wlovere (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

Just so you know I am not an admin. --Ferien (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Any ideaEdit

Do you have any idea about this: https://en.everybodywiki.com/Everybodywiki_bios_and_free_wiki_for_everybody Can I use my same user account in everybody wiki? Seems something strange from the general wiki world! Haoreima (talk) 18:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: You'd have to register an everybodywiki account and then it can be used in all the othe everybodywiki wikis. However, this is not a Wikimedia project. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 04:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

My Test CaseEdit

Due to your redirect, my page got QD'd!!!!!!! Meanie! lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I QDed the redirects when I moved, did the actual page get deleted? lol --Ferien (talk) 19:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Just CSD the QD, BOOM! ;P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

:P --Ferien (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User/Special:PotsdamLamb/infobox_bewogs PotsdamLamb (talk) 06:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see --Ferien (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-18Edit

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Twinkle is a gadget on English Wikipedia. It can help with maintenance and patrolling. It can now be used on other wikis. You can get Twinkle on your wiki using the twinkle-starter GitHub repository.

Problems

The content translation tool did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug. [1]
Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes. [2]

Changes later this week

Reference Previews will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using Page Previews if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none. [3][4]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Future changes

The CSS classes .error, .warning and .success do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css or template styles instead. [5]

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15:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

About the page https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.O.C_Road,_PerumbavoorEdit

I am a newcomer on Wikipedia , I would appreciate it greatly if you could elaborate a bit on redirecting issues in issues . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barktwain77 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Barktwain77: When pages are moved, a redirect is left from the old page name to the new. I requested the redirect for deletion and the article you made is not affected. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

How are my contributions so far?Edit

As stated on my user page, I am trying to gain community trust on Enwiki and I want to do the right thing. So I wonder how my contributions have been so far? Thank you! SoyokoAnis - talk 21:40, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: You have been a pretty good editor here so far, helping with creating articles and fixing typos. One thing though: you'll noticed I reverted your edit on FBG Duck as you removed the RfD. Please do not remove the RfD until it is closed. Thanks, and happy editing! --Ferien (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I realized I removed without rethinking. Thank you. SoyokoAnis - talk 14:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

No worries, we all make mistakes :) --Ferien (talk) 14:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

QDEdit

LAST WARNING DO NOT PUT QD TEMPLATES ON ANY MORE Pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:444:201:9E70:1C28:36AE:D4E0:705A (talk • contribs) 14:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

You didn't use an actual warning template. And QD templates are supposed to go on those pages. SoyokoAnis - talk 14:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@2601:444:201:9E70:1C28:36AE:D4E0:705A: I am not sure what you're referring to. I accidentally rollbacked your edit adding a QD as mobile Wikipedia is a pain to use. Also, why did you sign as a different IP? I'm not sure what benefit this can give you... --Ferien (talk) 14:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, there's an option that makes you confirm that you want to do a rollback. In your preferences/settings, it's on the gadgets tab, Browsing gadgets section, labelled "Require confirmation before performing rollback on mobile devices". It's very helpful for working on mobile devices — guess how I know! --Auntof6 (talk) 21:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I thought I enabled that... but I didn't, lol... Thanks for reminding me! :) --Ferien (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

YGMEdit

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PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Done, check your inbox :) --Ferien (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

ApologiesEdit

I am so sorry for making the request I had meant to request another article but apparently the main page got requested. Again, I am so sorry. SoyokoAnis - talk 20:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: No problem. Attempts to delete the main page have been made before! --Ferien (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien I am going to stop tagging articles now. I don't want a repeat of Enwiki. SoyokoAnis - talk 20:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: Ok, just take it slow. You are still relatively new here. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I will, thank you. SoyokoAnis - talk 21:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar of kindnessEdit

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		You are kind, helpful, guiding, encouraging; you are the one who encourages me to do better on this wiki than English Wikipedia. Thanks. -Leo (let's talk) (my help) 21:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! :) --Ferien (talk) 05:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

New notificationEdit

Have you received the automatic notification that we will not be able to edit during 6:00 to 6:15 for technical problem? I saw that in the top of my screen. Haoreima (talk) 06:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yes, I saw it but I was able to edit and then the notification had gone by about 6:10am UTC. I'm pretty sure the maintenance is done. --Ferien (talk) 06:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

PingsEdit

About this edit, pings don't works unless you save a timestamp in the same edit. Since you kept the old timestamp, I don't think Haoreima would have gotten the notification. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I always forget that... I think Haoreima has seen it though as he has thanked me for the response. --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

A requestEdit

Hello Pal! en:Puya Meithaba ( Burning of Puya ) (equivalent of simple:Puya Mei Thaba) is about to get deleted. It has actually broken some wiki guidelines, it's created by User:Luwanglinux. Could you please advise him in good faith what's right and what's wrong? You can even perform tps in the discussion page of en:Talk:History of Manipur. Actually, good references are available in this very simple English equivalent article. Haoreima (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Haoreima: You might not know, but "tps" stands for "talk page stalker". It refers to times when someone leaves a message on a user talk page, but a different person answers it. It's what I'm doing right now; you left a message on Ferien's talk page, but I am making a comment on it even though you didn't ask me and this isn't my talk page. Using the {{tps}} template is a way of saying that I know I'm possibly being a little rude by responding to a message that was left for someone else on someone else's talk page. Therefore, tps doesn't apply to article talk pages (like the one you mentioned above), because anyone is entitled to comment on those. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Learning the fact for the first time from you, thank you, Auntof6! Well, there's an active discussion going on. In fact, a war is being fought in the article's talk page. And I wish a peaceful end through understanding. Haoreima (talk) 12:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Luwanglinux seems to have already been advised and unfortunately, he has been blocked over there for a week for edit warring. And, as I don't really know what was going on over there, it probably isn't best for me to step in. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: And besides what Ferien said, since you are blocked on enwiki, you aren't supposed to be asking people to do things there. Ferien could get into trouble for doing things there for you. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Haoreima Thank for your concern but its ok I will follow wikipedia procedure and do whatever is good for that article after one week , I am able to read Ray Sohini journal about Manipur through jstor too Luwanglinux (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: Apologies to you if my plan turns out to be a trouble for your user account's reputation as Auntof6 said. But, my real intention is just for the betterment of wikipedia articles and wikipedia users. Haoreima (talk) 03:06, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thanks for correcting my mistake on my english wikipedia user page, since extended confirmed user are able to move page I thought it appropriate, I feel too shame after learning about it just today.Luwanglinux (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: I just noticed it when I was having a look at the situation above, although I wasn't going to take any action on that... No problem. --Ferien (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

That situation was no good, its ok Luwanglinux (talk) 18:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

ANEdit

You are the topic of an Administrative Action. You may join the discussion by clicking here! Not participating can cause you to be blocked for your actions. PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Aww, thanks :) --Ferien (talk) 07:17, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

You’re welcome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PotsdamLamb (talk • contribs) 07:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh heyEdit

User:PotsdamLamb#/media/File:PotsdamLambs_new_kitty.jpg PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Aww, very cute. :)

There's a cat who keeps wandering around my neighbourhood very casually and is just begging for attention the entire time. --Ferien (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of The Speedy Deletion Tag RequestEdit

Hello Ferien, I respect your decision entirely but please do not delete this article as I am an online freelancer and I am being paid to write this article on Simple Wikipedia. I hope you understand me and thank you for your help in advance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6440:4002:0:0:0:0:2F6A (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@2605:6440:4002:0:0:0:0:2F6A: so you are making me think that requesting the article for deletion definitely was a good idea. See conflicts of interest. If you have one, it's best not to edit the article. The article sounds really promotional, which is why I requested it for deletion. --Ferien (talk) 16:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ferien (talk), I tried my best to keep the article neutral by excluding all the superlative adjectives, adding as much neutral words as possible and only keeping facts which I could verify. I also did not add any boasting words such as 'best of the best' and etc to keep the tone formative. It would be appreciated by me if you could please delete the speedy deletion request. Thank you for understanding my point of view.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6440:3002:0:0:0:2:14B (talk • contribs) 17:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@2605:6440:3002:0:0:0:2:14B: However, the subject is also not notable for Wikipedia and does not claim to be. So there should not be an article on this subject. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@192.141.42.242: pinging you as you seem to be the same person. --Ferien (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

QD declinedEdit

Hi, Ferien. I had to decline that QD. I'm not saying he meets any notability guideline, but QD can't be used if there is a claim of notability (in this case, winning an award). Feel free to go to RFD with it. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't notice that he claimed to have won an award. I'll go to RfD with it. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

That IP user talk pageEdit

Please stop humoring that IP user by continuing to revert their edits. It only makes them continue what they're doing. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

MailEdit

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PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Doing... --Ferien (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Done --Ferien (talk) 19:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

userpage feedbackEdit

Hello, what do you think of the pink colour on my userpage? I don't want it to be too bright, also I want to make my user talk page teal, soon. Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@つがる: I think it's fine, I can read it well :) --Ferien (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Pink and Mint/Teal are actually my favourite colors IRL. However, the userpage title displays differently on each browser when I visit it, IDK why. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-19Edit

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en:Sarah E. Goode

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Sarah Elisabeth Goode (1850 – April 8, 1905) was an inventor. She was the second known African-American woman to receive the MOST, a United States patent, which she received in 1885. The first known African-American woman to receive a patent was Judy W. Reed on September 23, 1884, but Reed only signed her patent with her mark (an X) and not her signature.

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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 May. It will be on all wikis from 13 May (calendar).

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15:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey there!Edit

Hey there! I decided to WP:DENY removing the vandalism that is on WP:VIP as edit warring isn’t the best idea. CoolGuyRonnie Talk 16:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

One of the key parts of WP:DENY is Do not talk about them on your user page but I just simplify that to Do not talk about them unless it's really important. --Ferien (talk) 16:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

IPsEdit

I am not sure if they are one in the same, but I have been reverting those too with a different IP and they just blanked their talk page. I reported mine to VIP. PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Doesn’t matter now. The IP has been blocked :) CoolGuyRonnie Talk 21:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

and your account has been too (locked)... --Ferien (talk) 18:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

IPv6 rangesEdit

If 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918:1899 and 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918:ace8 both vandalise, an admin blocks 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918::/112. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

An admin can block that range but I think in most cases it is appropriate for the /64 to be blocked, per w:WP:/64. --Ferien (talk) 17:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Logging in problemsEdit

I have an Apple Watch Series 3 38mm, running watchOS 7. I could make changes anonymously, but couldn't log in, mostly due to small 768 MB RAM. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@79.67.17.238: Hmm, editing must be interesting on that. --Ferien (talk) 15:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien My watch is slow to render pie charts on page statistics. I tested, and frame rates for rendering pie charts is 1 fps. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Wut, you can edit on an apple watch? Guess I'll somehow get 100% on all my tests now :P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Loading two Wikipedia tabs (recent changes and editing this talk page) uses about 850MB of RAM. So 768MB should just about load a webpage. And also, I'd guess you'd be using the mobile version which is lighter than the desktop version I believe. --Ferien (talk) 20:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Ferien, IP cannot be pinged! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@つがる: I always ping them anyway just so they know it's for them. And also because I didn't actually wasn't aware of that :P --Ferien (talk) 20:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Then is there a 'Mobile Version' Grade 12 so it can be easier lol --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

My watch has a S3 dual-core system-on-a-chip (I think 900 MHz), which is slow. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

VandalWarnerEdit

How does VandalWarner work? I’m new here but I don’t know how it works. C4Bomb2024 Talk 13:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: I used to try using it but it doesn't currently work. The buttons appear but it doesn't work. Try using Twinkle instead. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:43, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, but I’m not autoconfirmed. I’ll use that instead. C4Bomb2024 Talk 13:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

When you're autoconfirmed you can use Twinkle but for the meantime, manual undoing and templating should work just fine. --Ferien (talk) 13:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah. C4Bomb2024 Talk 15:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail!Edit

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Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Done --Ferien (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

again --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Done --Ferien (talk) 21:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-20Edit

The winner this Translation of the week is

en:Zuzu Angel

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Zuleika Angel Jones (June 5, 1921 – April 14, 1976), better known as Zuzu Angel, was a Brazilian-American fashion designer, who became famous for opposing the Brazilian military dictatorship after the forced disappearance of her son, Stuart. She was also the mother of journalist Hildegard Angel.

In 2014, the National Truth Commission created to gather and review information about crimes committed during the years of the CIA and U.S. government-backed Brazilian military dictatorship, a former agent of the military repression named Cláudio Antônio Guerra, confirmed the participation of agents of the security apparatus in the death of Angel.

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There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences. [6] [7] [8]
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An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first. [11]

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MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklist will be renamed MediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles. [12]
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13:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

A lot of times she is not adding the warning but looks like we both did it this time. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

np, I was just reverting the edit conflict. I am just checking recent changes here every now and then to check what's going on whilst I do some things on en. :) --Ferien (talk) 16:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

lol fine I am not needed then :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

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79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The amount of RAM I have right now (I think about 8GB) seems to be doing fine as I've got quite a few things open as well as several Wikipedia tabs! --Ferien (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have 64GB of RAM :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: I have 768 MB RAM. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have an i7 Laptop with 24GB DDR4 (2400 GHZ?) RAM DDR4 --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb What are you doing to need that much RAM lol --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:23, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I’m also a gamer and I used to test various software so I created virtual machines to test on so it’s not on my main system. I can’t really tag you because your username is in characters I can’t type! Lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 03:17, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

That explains why you need so much RAM...

For pinging: If you just go to Tsugaru's user page then copy つがる, you should be able to ping. --Ferien (talk) 05:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb Yea, I run Virtual Machines too, my Host OS is Linux Mint 20.1, I use VirtualBox to run Windows 10 Home. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Vandal talk pagesEdit

I don't think I have any policy or guideline to base this on, other then maybe WP:DENY, but it might save you some headache to just not revert already blocked ips vandalizing their own talk pages. An admin will most likely eventually revoke talk page access, and they're not harming any content. Reverting them might just egg them on. Im not saying to stop outright, just something to think about. Might be better to just let them run out of steam on their own page until an admin gets to them. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 19:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, apologies, I stopped reverting a few minutes ago. With this editor I generally revert a few times and then stop. Sometimes they revert as soon as I revert, sometimes they don't revert at all. --Ferien (talk) 20:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Please see my response at User talk:Eptalon/Archive 20#Urgent. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Still, I think WP:DENY applies. They are trying to disrupt the project and have been for many years. --Ferien (talk) 20:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes which is why they only got a final warning so it was in place for me to ask for the block :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

But just so you know for future, this editor is WMF-banned. No warnings are required; you can ask stewards for a global lock/block right away when seeing this particular editor. --Ferien (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

FYI - Eptalon did revoke TP access; also Ferien, the IP did not create any content. He just vandalized a crapload of pages that I was able to revert all of them I believe including others talk pages. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Not a moveEdit

It was a copy and paste lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I was copy and pasting/moving it above the discussion line, and it's easier to type "move" then "copy and paste" in the edit summary --Ferien (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I need to look and see what you did then. I thought I moved it to the right place. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

It wasn't anything you did. See here, I was moving the discussion to above the  line. :) --Ferien (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021Edit

Hello! Thank you for creating Category:Establishments in Austria by year. However, we normally need at least three pages in a category before it is created. Because categories are a way to group together similar articles, there is no need to create a new category for just one or two articles. If you think there might be more pages to add to the new category, please add them now. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 04:17, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Done. Oops, forgot about that for subcategories! --Ferien (talk) 05:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Lights and freedomEdit

Why is Lights and freedom blocked? It’s kinda sad :( C4Bomb2024 Talk 15:12, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

It is annoying when we lose a constructive contributor, but they were blocked for socking which they have not denied. I think they know that this is not allowed. --Ferien (talk) 15:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What do you mean "know that this is not allowed"? Darubrub (Let me know) 15:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Lights and freedom reverted vandalism on a pretty regular basis and they must have seen the WP:SOCK page at least once. I meant they knew that this is not allowed not know. --Ferien (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

RIP Lights and freedom (19 January 2020 - 20 May 2021) C4Bomb2024 Talk 16:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What happens to their Wikiproject now? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I assume it will just continue as normal. I don't think there's any need to move it, the WikiProject can continue. WikiProjects are about collaboration and there don't have to be "leaders". --Ferien2 (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's the same too. My Wikiprojects, I allow anyone to change what they want. :-) Though I've seen a Wikiproject where they ask you to not touch some things, would that cause a problem, but depending on the situation, I don't think it does in that particular situation I've seen --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the wikiproject can continue on without Lights and freedom "leading". We can continue it there like we continue relatively active wikiprojects where the creator has retired :) --Ferien2 (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

MailEdit

Hello, Ferien. Check your email – you have got mail!
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Done --Ferien (talk) 20:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

YoEdit

Hello, Ferien. Check your email – you have got mail!
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

@PotsdamLamb: Sorry there will be a bit of a delay with this as I can’t currently access my mail. --Ferien2 (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

No worries! PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Done --Ferien (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

ArchivesEdit

I think your archives are broken! PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:46, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: They seem to work but I think they are getting rather big. Maybe I will reconsider my archive system some time again at the end of the year. --Ferien2 (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

If you look at my page, User_talk:PotsdamLamb it may help you as I noticed you are missing some coding you should have there. :) --PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, as in the automatic archiving. I have disabled that on purpose, I archive it all at the end of the month. --Ferien2 (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Auto is better and you can set it to a different number, I have mine at three. Your page says three as well :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I prefer archiving it at the end of the month though, I like my talk page having several topics there. I feel like it is more inviting for someone leaving a message. Thanks for trying to help though :) --Ferien2 (talk) 21:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

ChenzwEdit

Hi there. I don’t know why Chenzw isn’t editing here now for like 2 months. C4Bomb2024 Talk 19:36, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: As another example, Lofty abyss hasn't edited in nearly 3.

It's perfectly normal and acceptable for someone, even an administrator, to stop editing here for a couple of months or more. After all, everyone here is a volunteer. No-one is under any obligation to edit here. --Ferien (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-21Edit

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en:Blue space

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Blue space in urban planning and design comprises all the areas dominated by surface waterbodies or watercourses. In conjunction with greenspace (parks, gardens, etc. specifically: urban open space), it may help in reducing the risks of heat-related illness from high urban temperatures. Substantial urban waterbodies naturally exist as integral features of the geography of many cities because of their historical geopolitical significance.

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VaccineEdit

Hello pal! Are you vaccinated for COVID-19? For me, I have done today. It's too late but I am lucky because in my country, the government is unable to provide it sufficiently to public. Many lives from my locality are claimed, so suddenly worried about you. Haoreima (talk) 15:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I am under 18 so I am not, at least currently, being vaccinated for COVID-19. However, most of the British population have now received a vaccination, I believe over 60,000,000 now. --Ferien (talk) 15:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

How old are you? I am 19. Haoreima (talk) 15:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I don't really see a need to reveal my age on Wikipedia. I am here to build an encyclopedia after all and so I prefer giving as little information about myself as possible here.

However, regarding the vaccine, it looks like under 18s may be able to get a vaccine sometime late this year if this research suggests that it is safe for them to have the jab: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/explained/will-children-get-a-covid-19-vaccine/ --Ferien (talk) 16:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Recent changes

The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.

Changes later this week

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warningsEdit

How come we're not sending warnings to long-term abusers on Simple English Wikipedia? Angela Kate Maureen 19:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Tropical Storm Angela: Mainly because I find it makes things worse and also this particular editor is WMF-banned and they have been warned multiple times over the 15 years since he created his account. If you want the LTA page it's w:WP:LTA/GRP. --Ferien (talk) 19:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I almost wonder if it would be useful to have a template saying something like "this IP is a long-term abuser; no warnings are needed, and may be blocked on sight" -- or equivalent. That way people unfamiliar with the person wouldn't waste time leaving warnings. Optional parameters in the template would include putting a link to an LTA page. Antandrus (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I might make it in userspace sometime as I am having to explain to quite a few people. --Ferien (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Another possibility of course is just writing a single line -- "This is w:WP:LTA/GRP; block this IP asap". Or something. But a template would save five seconds I suppose. Antandrus (talk) 19:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I've just made one: User:Ferien/Warnings/Banned. Feel free to change it if you want. I don't have much knowledge on templates but I think this is ok. --Ferien (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

How can editors tell whether or not a Simple English Wikipedia editor is a longterm abuser? Angela Kate Maureen 20:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Behaviour is the main way you can tell. I'll send you some diffs via email of this particular LTA. And there aren't many long-term abusers around simple, only a few. --Ferien (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

AssistanceEdit

Hello Ferien, I saw you assisted with a vandalism problem on Verdis. There is an angry user requesting removal of the article on Talk:Verdis, can this possibly be responded to? I am still new to Wikipedia. From the research I've looked at, the user is continuously getting in conflicts on English Wikipedia and Dutch Wikipedia, and is largely biased. He claims rtl.hr and telex.hu are not large enough sources. What's your thoughts? BrodieMan201 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello @BrodieMan201: There was a consensus on the English Wikipedia to delete the article, see here and so we could start an RfD (Request for Deletion) if that user thinks that the "Free Republic of Verdis" doesn't deserve an article here. --Ferien (talk) 05:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

The consensus was resolved to switch Verdis back to a redirect on English Wikipedia. This user seems to continuously be angry and causing conflicts claiming that the micronation is a hoax since it was founded by a kid, but micronations aren't meant to be taken seriously anyway. 180.150.39.49 (talk) 06:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Shouldn't be removed just because of an old man's bias and disagreement about a state's views. BrodieMan201 (talk) 06:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@BrodieMan201: Actually, the page is currently deleted with no redirect, and protected with create protected (only admins can create it). There has obviously been a lot of recreations despite the consensus. --Ferien (talk) 06:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I just took a look and from what I can see in logs, the redirect was accepted before the most recent deletion but was deleted upon the page's creators block for something. BrodieMan201 (talk) 06:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@BrodieMan201: The most recent XFD's consensus was to delete. I have asked The Banner whether an RfD here would be appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

DudeEdit

I was just playing with the templates. Again, give me a freaking chance to reverse it and stop jumping on top of everything the moment I do it. It’s starting to get annoying. PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Playing with the templates is doing an editing test and tests shouldn't be made on recently active IPs who are blocked. It still gives them the notification on their talk page and it also may confuse them that testing is done on their talk page. For testing, as you know, you can use the sandbox or warn an IP that cannot edit, like the one on the VIP header. You don't need to do it on an active IP address, that's just testing editing which as you know, should not be outside of the sandbox. --Ferien (talk) 10:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikibreak headerEdit

"28 April to 4 May" did you mean "28 May to 4 June"? Darubrub (Let me know) 14:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, oops lol, I was too tired. Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thank you for the warm welcome! I will have to get used to the absence of RedWarn, but with Twinkle, I will manage! Hockeycatcat (talk) 05:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hockeycatcat: No problem for the welcome, I have seen you around on enwiki. Some users have copied RedWarn from enwiki (as an example, see User:JJPMaster/RedWarn.js) However, I find Twinkle is all that's really necessary over here. Kind regards, --Ferien (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

WP:DenyEdit

While I do understand the concept, it has been stated over and over that warnings need to be present for an admin to take action. This is a direct quote for an ip user who was vandalizing Canada

“Warned user. Please leave warnings before reporting here. Auntof6 (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)”

Not everyone knows all the tell tell signs of these people but generally their talk pages should not be cleared out especially with warnings as when/if they come back, we have the instant reference and do not need to shuffle through their contribution history to see what happened. I AGF roll backed your blanking of the IP talk page. Thanks! PotsdamLamb (talk) 10:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: When someone says "I like vandalism!" or "I want a block" on many talk pages, it's quite obvious that they are looking to be blocked or to cause harm. This has been going on for over 12 years. The warnings are designed to stop the user, not to become a way of counting reverts. Also this user is banned by the community and they're evading their ban so they can be blocked without warning.

Warnings are not required anyway, they are just preferred. See this part of the Wikipedia:Blocks and bans policy: However, administrators can block a user at any time if they are abusing Wikipedia on purpose or going against other policies. Going on user talk pages and saying "I like vandalism!" is clearly abusing Wikipedia on purpose.

And finally, I know that looking at user talk warnings is easier than looking a little at users' contributions but administrators should be checking reports pretty thoroughly before taking action. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I am aware of all of that, but I am looking at from the user standpoint, not the admin standpoint or what admins should and should not be doing. Since IPs will be eventually unblocked (for the most part) the warnings should stay on the page, so that way there is the history. Now if the user wipes the page, that is a different story, as they don't get pages anyways. This is my opinion. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Sure, I understand if the user, instead of the IP, wipes the page then it is a little different. Although, the IPs don't need to even see those old warnings for the history as it is designed for the person vandalising not everyone on the IP. On enwiki, editors sometimes go through and replace ancient talk page messages with {{OW}} as they don't need to be seen anymore. I just blank them as there's no need for the warnings to be there and it is just giving the vandal the attention they want. I should probably replace them with {{OW}} instead, for transparency/history... Regards, --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I think that would work better. :) BTW, you added that box to the RfD. I created the minimum necessary to tag the users as we didn't have them. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:48, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: I added it because it had got three keep !votes with basically no reason. A keep !vote with explanation would be much more helpful than a keep !vote with none... Regards, :) --Ferien (talk) 16:10, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Yuppers PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Empty cleanup categoriesEdit

Just thought I would let you know those pages QD themselves when they are emptied. You don't need to put a tag on them. -Djsasso (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@Djsasso: Actually, they don't seem to go into quick deletion requests automatically even though they are empty, although it may be an issue on my side. --Ferien (talk) 17:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

It is almost definitely caching on your side. Though it could also be the job queue hadn't put them there yet. I regularly delete them from the cat so I know they usually work. -Djsasso (talk) 17:07, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok, I was just noticing categories from a few years ago that had the deletion request on them still. Although, it could be the case that the categories were cleared relatively recently. Putting the QD tag seems to put them in CAT:QD immediately after but the automatic one doesn't, at least for me anyway... --Ferien (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-22Edit

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Problems

There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday. [13]

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RfAEdit

RfA

There is an RfA over at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ferien. I have nominated you for adminship because you are a believably proficient editor here. This does not mean you have admin rights yet, just that you have been nominated. Have a good day! C4Bomb2024 Talk 06:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Did you want to be nominated for adminship? C4Bomb2024 Talk 10:19, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: Hi. Thanks for the nomination but I was thinking about running for adminship in a few months at the very earliest so I don't think I'm going to accept. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 11:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I’m good with that then. C4Bomb2024 Talk 11:57, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: I have declined the nomination. Thank you for nominating me but I don't think I'm ready just yet. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok. C4Bomb2024 Talk 15:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

And your account is globally locked now... --Ferien (talk) 07:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien Dang man! Lol PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 07:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

it would have been very awkward if I had accepted an RfA nomination from a now globally locked user... --Ferien (talk) 16:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I hear ya man! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 16:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

This account has been locked across all Wikimedia projects.
(Global account log · contributions · local block log · CentralAuth)

LOL HAPPY JUNE 2! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 07:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Oof. I also saw a help request like this in my talk page. Would it also be awkward to see a comment in WP:RFP/R from him? Darubrub (Let me know) 15:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Darubrub I would say yes. Unfortunately it does not carry any weight. But then again, it is not a consensus vote, it is an admin decision. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 16:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

It's annoying but, as PotsdamLamb says, it's admins that make the final decision and so it shouldn't have an impact. --Ferien (talk) 16:58, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Question related to a wikipedia articleEdit

Hello sir, I want to ask if this page is allowed to be kept when its already deleted and salted form main wikipedia after it was proved that articles about subject are paid. Check this and and this. I see the same page active under different languages as well without any notability. JAHANZAIBARIF (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @JAHANZAIBARIF I am in agreement with it being deleted on the other wikis. It is not notable. All of the links are dead that would show any notoriety. I have nominated it for deletion. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 22:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@PDL Ok sir. Please fix the User talk link in your comment for quick deletion. Thanks JAHANZAIBARIF (talk) 22:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@JAHANZAIBARIF There is no talk link in the QD notice, so I am not sure what you are referring to. If you click on my name in the notice, it will take you to my page, which is what it is supposed to do. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 22:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

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The article seems to have been deleted. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 07:40, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-23Edit

The winner this Translation of the week is

en:Breakthrough infection

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A breakthrough infection is a case of illness in which a vaccinated individual becomes sick from the same illness that the vaccine is meant to prevent. Simply, they occur when vaccines fail to provide immunity against the pathogen they are designed to target. In April 2021, the CDC reported that in the United States there were 5,814 COVID-19 breakthrough infections, and 74 deaths, among the more than 75 million people fully vaccinated for the COVID-19 virus.

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HeadquartersEdit

Turns out, it's even stranger than I thought! The infoboxes were copied from the English Wikipedia, so the "misinformation" came from there. In fact, if you look at the Serbian Wikipedia article and check the English one, you'll see that it also has the same fake headquarters writing (I'll bring that up to ENWiki editors, so you might have to check the page's history if it gets removed). Cheers! Etoza (?) 18:59, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@Etoza: Hmm, that's interesting. If you go to w:Wikimedia Foundation and Ctrl+F "miami" you won't find anything so as you said it must have been some sort of factual error vandalism that we copied across... Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 19:54, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-23Edit

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Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 June. It will be on all wikis from 10 June (calendar).

Future changes

The Wikimedia movement uses Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future. [14][15][16]
Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for Bedusz doesn't find Będusz on German Wikipedia. The character ę isn't used in German so many would write e instead. This will work better in the future in some languages. [17]
The CSRF token parameters in the action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters. [18][19]

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ApologyEdit

Hi Ferien, Just wanted to apologise for earlier - I didn't realise the article had an infobox otherwise I wouldn't of reverted you so sorry for that, Thank you for adding the updated version and thank you for your contributions to the project too :), Take care and stay safe, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 22:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Davey2010: No worries. :) Regards, --Ferien (talk) 05:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Empty maintenance categoriesEdit

You do not have to put QD requests on the empty maintenance categories. QD requests will appear on those automatically. I know someone (you?) recently said they weren't seeing them, but when I went to process them I saw both your requests and the automatically generated ones. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:57, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that's strange. I went into a completely different browser and loaded the CAT:QD page and it didn't appear. I will just stop tagging those now. --Ferien (talk) 10:16, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

{{Subst:Ferien}} Bravo my chap but it was probably deleted... 2600:387:6:80F:0:0:0:75 (talk) 00:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)...

The category? That was not deleted when I checked. It is some sort of issue on my side I think. --Ferien (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

New barnstarEdit

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you for adding categories to my pages that i made. You're a very good and nice person here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:444:201:9e70:7da3:653d:403c:791c (talk • contribs) 17:56, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the barnstar :) No problem for adding the categories. --Ferien (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-24Edit

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Recent changes

Logged-in users on the mobile web can choose to use the advanced mobile mode. They now see categories in a similar way as users on desktop do. This means that some gadgets that have just been for desktop users could work for users of the mobile site too. If your wiki has such gadgets you could decide to turn them on for the mobile site too. Some gadgets probably need to be fixed to look good on mobile. [20]
Language links on Wikidata now works for multilingual Wikisource. [21]

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In the future we can't show the IP of unregistered editors to everyone. This is because privacy regulations and norms have changed. There is now a rough draft of how showing the IP to those who need to see it could work.
German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC. [22]
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20:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Comments on RfD pagesEdit

It is not necessary to comment "remember that this is not a vote" on RfD discussions. The closing admin can see that the person didn't give any particular reason, and they will take that into account. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:17, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I just wanted to let them know that RfDs are not a vote for future discussions. --Ferien (talk) 05:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

ProtectionEdit

I saw my sandbox has been vandalized 3 times. Can I protect the sandbox from being edited by anonymous and users who arnt extended confirmed? Haoreima (talk) 20:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: We don't have extended confirmed protection/users on this wiki. However, as User:Haoreima/sandbox is in your user subpage, you can request for it to be semi-protected, so IPs and users with under 10 edits can't edit it. You can request semi-protection on User:Haoreima/sandbox on the administrators' noticeboard or on an admin's talk page. Semi-protection should be enough protection for your sandbox. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 20:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

What happened to your talk page? All the talks are gone under a hidden way! Seems unusual like before. Haoreima (talk) 20:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I archived it in late April. I also changed the font to Calibri. Can you explain what you mean by "All the talks are gone under a hidden way!"? --Ferien (talk) 20:38, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Your talk page looks exactly similar to that of MacDonald Ross. It's explicitly different from mine, or others'. If you change your desktop view edition to mobile view edition, it's clearly visible that all the talks (not so archived till now) we're all hidden under the column "Add new discussion". It's only after pressing the long blue color button "Read as Wikipedia page", I can see all the hidden talks, even this current one. For better knowledge, compare yours with mine. Haoreima (talk) 20:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I see what you mean. How odd. I haven't changed anything to make it like that. Was it readable without having to press "Read as wiki page" before? --Ferien (talk) 20:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

No, everything remains hidden until I press the button. Haoreima (talk) 21:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, @Haoreima: have you ever been able to read talk page messages of mine without pressing "Read as wiki page"? I recall being able to on my phone recently. --Ferien (talk) 21:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Till yesterday, everything was fine. I regularly look at your talk page even when I don't talk with you. It's only today, everything got mess up. As of now, without pressing the button, I can't see or read. Haoreima (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Your case is slightly different from MacDonald Ross'. In his, two talks are already seen. But within the second one, a lot of talks are still hidden. But in your case, seems like there's no talk active in the page. Because all are hidden. Haoreima (talk) 21:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

One thing I can suggest you is to check the entire content of this very talk page, from A to Z (including even a single template or a tag). That will really help you to understand what is wrong with the page! Edit history check up will also be helpful. Haoreima (talk) 05:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I revert all vandalism on the page and the top, apart from the font code addition, is the same. Let me see what happens when I remove the font. --Ferien (talk) 05:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Seems like the font must have confused the mobile site! You can see all topics without pressing "Read as wiki page" now. --Ferien (talk) 05:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Belwine! See everyone got fine now within a few seconds (after your last reply). Check yourself through mobile view edition. Have you done something? Haoreima (talk) 05:57, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yep, I removed the font. That seemed to confuse the mobile site. --Ferien (talk) 05:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh yes! Everything's fine now. My last reply was published within a fraction of seconds just after yours. LOL! Haoreima (talk) 05:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Once again! See yours:-05:56, mine:-05:57 again yours:-05:58, mine:-05:59 very interesting. Haoreima (talk) 06:01, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I have a little confusion. Is England currently in day or night? My place is currently a mid day! Haoreima (talk) 06:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Day, it's the morning and it's currently 7:22am. --Ferien (talk) 06:22, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

7:22 am! Mine is 11:52 am. Very interesting! Haoreima (talk) 06:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

It's almost one whole day passed after I request for protection of my sandbox in the administrators' noticeboard. But no response is seen. What best can I do? Haoreima (talk) 20:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: The only advice I have is just wait for an admin to respond. Eventually, an admin will protect your page. --Ferien (talk) 20:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

One thing I noticed frequently is that when a vandal commit vandalism on multiple pages including my sandbox and other articles, bots or admins revert their actions in the article pages but left my sandbox unreverted (when I ain't active in Wikipedia). What do you think? Is this based on the personal thinking of the very users? Haoreima (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Maybe they just don't notice the vandalism in your sandbox, they won't just leave it on purpose. --Ferien (talk) 21:06, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Till now, it's only you who noticed vandalism on my related pages. Thanks for reply. Haoreima (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Auntof6 has now protected your user page. --Ferien (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

About NeptuneEdit

Good day! Can you check the article about Neptune and leave a comment? Appreciate it.Thank you in advance. Frontfrog (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@Frontfrog: Ok. I'll have a look at it. I'm not the best at reviewing potential GAs but I'll try! --Ferien (talk) 20:14, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@Frontfrog: Done! Thanks for your work on the article, it's looking great. :D --Ferien (talk) 20:59, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much too for your comment! Frontfrog (talk) 05:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

KimonoEdit

Do you think it is ready to be nominated for GA? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I just took a quick look at it; I think it's good but not ready for GA yet. The language is simple which is great but as the tag says, I think it needs a few more sources. The potential is definitely there though :) --Ferien (talk) 21:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-24Edit

The winner this Translation of the week is

en:Tutankhamun's trumpets

Please be bold and help translate this article!

Tutankhamun's trumpets are a pair of trumpets found in the burial chamber of the Eighteenth Dynasty Pharaoh Tutankhamun. The trumpets, one of sterling silver and one of bronze or copper, are considered to be the oldest operational trumpets in the world, and the only known surviving examples from ancient Egypt.

The trumpets were found in 1922 by Howard Carter during the excavation of Tutankhamun's tomb. The bronze trumpet was discovered in the tomb's antechamber in a large chest containing various military objects and walking sticks. The silver trumpet was subsequently found in the burial chamber. Both are finely engraved, with decorative images of the gods Ra-Horakhty, Ptah and Amun. The silver trumpet's bell is engraved with a whorl of sepals and calices representing a lotus flower, and the praenomen and nomen of the king. The bronze trumpet may in fact be made of copper; the metal has not yet been analysed. Similar looking trumpets feature in Egyptian wall-paintings that are usually, though not always, associated with military scenes.

Silent for over 3,000 years, the trumpets were sounded before a live audience of an estimated 150 million listeners through an international BBC broadcast aired on 16 April 1939. The trumpets were played by a bandsman, James Tappern of Prince Albert's Own 11th Royal Hussars regiment. The recording was recently featured, and can be heard on the BBC Radio 4 program Ghost Music. Rex Keating, who presented the 1939 broadcast, later claimed that during a rehearsal, the silver trumpet shattered, and Alfred Lucas, a member of Carter's team who had restored the finds, was so distressed he needed to go to hospital. Due to their fragility, it is unlikely the trumpets will be played again in any official musical reconstructions.

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New articleEdit

Hello pal! I want en:List of Manipuri kings to be written in simple wiki too. Since the article is about the list of names, do we still need it to be simplified? Or, can we just copy and paste it? Haoreima (talk) 12:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

And what about en:Template:Kingdom of Manipur? Haoreima (talk) 13:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

No. You should not copy and paste it for a couple of reasons:

Copyright - although you can attribute it in the edit summary
The fact that simple wiki is meant to be written in Simple English and normal wikipedia isn't written in simple english
Avoid just listing names, as this wiki isn't solely a wiki for lists

Hope this helps. SHB2000 (talk) 14:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I had a look at w:List of Manipuri kings. It shouldn't be copy and pasted completely. I feel like all sections apart from the lead and Burmese rule could be copy and pasted without simplification. For the other sections, I think simplification is necessary. You'll need to remember attribution, though.

@SHB2000: Sometimes, stubs on enwiki can actually be simple enough and A3 requests can be denied if this is the case. A3 is for copy and pastes from enwiki that are complex.

There have been occasions where I have only needed to make a couple of adjustments to a copy of an enwiki article before publishing it here. For example, List of postcode districts in the United Kingdom.

Hope this helps,

--Ferien (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-25Edit

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

The otrs-member group name is now vrt-permissions. This could affect abuse filters. [25]

Problems

You will be able to read but not edit German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC. [26]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 June. It will be on all wikis from 24 June (calendar).

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British EnglishEdit

I don't find any difference between English and British English in the wikipedia user language settings. Now, I have set mine in British English. Do you find any difference? Haoreima (talk) 07:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Haoreima, this is probably because only the interface is changed into British English, not the article. Also in the interface I can't imagine there being many differences between American and British English, which is probably why you can't notice it. Best regards,--Ferien (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello pal! I have started editing in wiki data. Now, I am connecting some pages at inter wiki. Please check if I am doing right or wrong! Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yep, they seem fine. Just some advice though: you don't need to spend time adding the Simple English descriptions, labels and aliases. I believe people reading in Simple English get the English descriptions, labels and aliases automatically. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:05, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Why so? I mean if simple English description isn't added, and if general English description is added only, then will the description appear in the simple English wikipedia article? Haoreima (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I've tried viewing Wikidata pages in Simple English before. If there isn't a Simple English description, alias or label then the English one will appear. I can only assume that if you viewed short descriptions here it would take the English one on Wikidata. You can add the Simple English descriptions if you want, you just don't need to. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:13, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 18:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

And, I am happy that I will no longer disturb you for the connection, except for some suggestions. Cheers! Haoreima (talk) 18:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Still, if you need any help with Wikidata, please let me know. I'll be happy to help. :) --Ferien (talk) 19:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Pal! This https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q107316443 I created but another already existed in the name "Eputhou Thangjing". What shall we do? Haoreima (talk) 04:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I have merged the two items. --Ferien (talk) 05:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks but I want to create an item for Thangjing (disambiguation)=mni:ꯊꯥꯡꯆꯤꯡ. What about this? Haoreima (talk) 06:06, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Ok, you can create a new item to link them together, as a disambiguation page on Wikipedia. You can put the description in English as Wikimedia disambiguation page. --Ferien (talk) 06:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

But one thing, wiki data item for templates on wikipedia are asked to link at least 3 connections. What about minimum no. for disambiguation? Haoreima (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I'm not aware of a minimum number of connections for disambiguation pages. I think the minimum amount of pages that need to be connected on any Wikidata item is ~~one~~ zero as many Wikidata items don't have any connections to pages on Wikipedia. --Ferien (talk) 06:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I believe you are correct. I believe Wikidata is meant to be a general database of knowledge, not just for Wikimedia projects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auntof6 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, if you go to wikidata:Special:Random and open up several pages, you'll find a majority of them don't have links to any Wikimedia project. --Ferien (talk) 16:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Setting the MediaWiki Interface to British English just changes the links on your end. It does not affect the page content or article content being displayed. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thank you for all the housekeeping you've been doing! I recognise your work. Cheers Hockeycatcat (talk) 09:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the message Hockeycatcat! Happy to help :) --Ferien (talk) 10:20, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

humilityEdit

84.07%

This user has created 160,035 of the 190,360 articles on the Simple English Wikipedia

83.53%

This user has created 159,000 of the 190,360 articles on the Simple English Wikipedia

I saw no bug in this wiki. Then, I am confused why there's malfunctioning in the mni wiki template. Haoreima (talk) 07:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Well, as you don't see neither dot nor question mark, what do you see? Haoreima (talk) 07:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Haoreima Sorry I meant to say I saw the box with the ? in it. See mni, it seems to be fixed now. --Ferien (talk) 15:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)