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Information Babel user information en-N This user has a native understanding of English. simple-5 This user has professional knowledge of Simple English. de-2 Dieser Benutzer beherrscht Deutsch auf fortgeschrittenem Niveau. es-1 Este usuario tiene un conocimiento básico del español. no-1 Denne brukeren har grunnleggende kjennskap til norsk (bokmål). nl-0 Deze gebruiker heeft geen kennis van het Nederlands (of begrijpt het met grote moeite). fr-0 Cet utilisateur n’a aucune connaissance en français (ou le comprend avec de grandes difficultés). Users by language It is about 9:04 PM where this user lives.[Purge] vn-273 This user's talk page has been vandalized 273 times.

Off-wiki discussion

Can we have some time for this? If so, come to IRC.--Dibyojyoti^{let's chat} 16:19, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

DRC-B5, I'm available. You can PM me like you did before or you can join #wikipedia-simple ^connect. --Ferien (talk) 16:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown

What happened at MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown? Why is there a redlink to an RfD for that page? Lights and freedom (talk) 18:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

When an administrator is about to delete a page, these options all come up. There is a redlink to an RfD on that page because when an RfD closes with a consensus to delete, a dropdown option is given to delete because of an RfD. The current year has to be substituted as well as the RfD linked to the page of that name, (shown as {{FULLPAGENAME}}), that is why there is an RfD there saying Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2023/MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown. --Ferien (talk) 18:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I understand now. Lights and freedom (talk) 18:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-05

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Problems

• Last week, for ~15 minutes, some users were unable to log in or edit pages. This was caused by a problem with session storage. [1]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 February. It will be on all wikis from 2 February (calendar).

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:05, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

simple Wiktionary

hello @Ferien-san there is a long going problem on the project's twinkle interface, it hasn't been fixed since,

can we do something about it? 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 17:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sakura emad. This has been the case for years. I think the best idea would be to start a new phab: task about it. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 17:52, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

@Ferien-san done it see T330678 they said it should be taken care by the local communities. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm not sure if w:WP:TW is an appropriate place to ask for how to fix Twinkle bugs on other wikis, but I'm really not sure where else you could ask. Perhaps you could ask Minorax about it, as they are an admin on that project. --Ferien (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-06

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Sweden Finns' Day (fi:Ruotsinsuomalaisten päivä) (sv:Sverigefinnarnas dag) Please be bold and help translate this article! Sweden Finns' Day (Finnish: Ruotsinsuomalaisten päivä, Swedish: Sverigefinnarnas dag) is an anniversary celebrated in Sweden on 24 February. The anniversary of the calendar was approved by the Swedish Academy in 2010 and was celebrated for the first time in 2011. February 24 was chosen as the birthday of Carl Axel Gottlund, a collector of folk poetry and a defender of the status of the Finnish language. The purpose of the day is to celebrate the Sweden Finns and to recognize their history, language and culture as a prominent part of Sweden's cultural heritage. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 02:05, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-06

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Recent changes

• In the Vector 2022 skin, logged-out users using the full-width toggle will be able to see the setting of their choice even after refreshing pages or opening new ones. This only applies to wikis where Vector 2022 is the default. [2]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).
• Previously, we announced when some wikis would be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. These switches will not be announced any more, as the read-only time has become non-significant. Switches will continue to happen at 7AM UTC on Tuesdays and Thursdays. [3]
• Across all the wikis, in the Vector 2022 skin, logged-in users will see the page-related links such as "What links here" in a new side menu. It will be displayed on the other side of the screen. This change had previously been made on Czech, English, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [4]
• Community Wishlist Survey 2023 will stop receiving new proposals on Monday, 6 February 2023, at 18:00 UTC. Proposers should complete any edits by then, to give time for translations and review. Voting will begin on Friday, 10 February.

Future changes

• Gadgets and user scripts will be changing to load on desktop and mobile sites. Previously they would only load on the desktop site. It is recommended that wiki administrators audit the gadget definitions prior to this change, and add skins=… for any gadgets which should not load on mobile. More details are available.

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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-07

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Delivery robot Please be bold and help translate this article! A delivery robot is an autonomous robot that provides "last mile" delivery services. An operator may monitor and take control of the robot remotely in certain situations that the robot cannot resolve by itself such as when it is stuck in an obstacle. Delivery robots can be used in different settings such as food delivery, package delivery, hospital delivery, and room service. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-07

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Problems

• On wikis where patrolled edits are enabled, changes made to the mentor list by autopatrolled mentors are not correctly marked as patrolled. It will be fixed later this week. [5]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).
• The Reply tool and other parts of DiscussionTools will be deployed for all editors using the mobile site. You can read more about this decision. [6]

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [7][8][9]

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

RfD nomination of User:Ferien/sandbox

An editor has requested deletion of User:Ferien/sandbox, a page you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2023/User:Ferien/sandbox and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. --Ferien (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-08

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Buddha Dhatu Jadi Please be bold and help translate this article! The Buddha Dhatu Jadi (Bengali: বুদ্ধ ধাতু জাদি; Burmese: ဗုဒ္ဓဓာတုစေတီ also known as the Bandarban Golden Temple) is located close to Balaghata town, in Bandarban City, in Bangladesh. Dhatu are the material remains of a holy person, and in this temple the relics belong to Buddha. It is the largest Theravada Buddhist temple in Bangladesh and has the second-largest Buddha statue in the country. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 02:18, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-08

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Problems

• Last week, during planned maintenance of Cloud Services, unforeseen complications forced the team to turn off all tools for 2–3 hours to prevent data corruption. Work is ongoing to prevent similar problems in the future. [10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 February. It will be on all wikis from 23 February (calendar).
• The voting phase for the Community Wishlist Survey 2023 ends on 24 February at 18:00 UTC. The results of the survey will be announced on 28 February.

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [11][12][13]

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-09

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Alina Scholtz Please be bold and help translate this article! Alina Scholtz (24 September 1908 – 25 February 1996) was a Polish landscape architect, known as one of country's pioneers in developing the field. Throughout her career she worked on various public and private projects for cemeteries, parks and green spaces. Some of her most noted works include the grounds of a villa on Kielecka Street in Warsaw for which she won a Silver Medal at the 1937 World Exhibition in Paris, the memorial cemetery to the victims of the Palmiry massacre, and landscaping projects along the East-West traffic route of Warsaw. In addition to her design work, she served as one of the founding members of the International Federation of Landscape Architects. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 02:04, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-09

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Problems

• Last week, in some areas of the world, there were problems with loading pages for 20 minutes and saving edits for 55 minutes. These issues were caused by a problem with our caching servers due to unforseen events during a routine maintenance task. [14][15]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).
• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 1. This is planned for 14:00 UTC. [16]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:47, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Question

Can you delete all the articles i created? 40.138.162.44 (talk) 06:40, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks as though your articles have been deleted and you have been blocked. --Ferien (talk) 23:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-10

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Mary Nzimiro Please be bold and help translate this article! Mary Nzimiro, birthname Mary Nwametu Onumonu, MBE (1898–1993) was a pioneering Nigerian businesswoman, politician and women's activist. In 1948, she was appointed principal representative of the United Africa Company (UAC) for Eastern Nigeria, while maintaining textile and cosmetics retail outlets of her own in Port Harcourt, Aba and Owerri. By the early 1950s, she was among the richest individuals in West Africa, becoming a resident of the exclusive Bernard Carr Street in Port Harcourt. On the political front, she was a member of the influential National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons, becoming a member of its executive committee in 1957 and vice-president of the NCNC Estern Women's Association in 1962. During the Nigerian Civil War (1967–1970), she organized Igbo women in support of the Biafrans. As a result she lost most of her property in Port Harcourt and returned to her native Oguta where she died in 1993. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 02:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-10

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Recent changes

• The Community Wishlist Survey 2023 edition has been concluded. Community Tech has published the results of the survey and will provide an update on what is next in April 2023.
• On wikis which use LanguageConverter to handle multiple writing systems, articles which used custom conversion rules in the wikitext (primarily on Chinese Wikipedia) would have these rules applied inconsistently in the table of contents, especially in the Vector 2022 skin. This has now been fixed. [17]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).
• A search system has been added to the Preferences screen. This will let you find different options more easily. Making it work on mobile devices will happen soon. [18]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Some guidance needed

Hello, hope you're doing good. Could you help answer my question here [19] ? Rejoy2003 (talk) 04:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Rejoy2003, I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. I don't know much about Google Knowledge Panels. Apologies. --Ferien (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Keep on list of sociologists

I was a bit surprised to see that kept and the reasoning. My primary reason was "Unmanageable list without standards or criteria for inclusion or exclusion." which is not addressed in your decision.

Looking at the statements in the discussion (minus IPs who do not count) I see:

• Delete: Gotanda, Macdonald-ross, Eptalon
• Keep: IWI, Shoot for the Stars

It looked to me like it was heading to delete so I did not belabor the point in the RfD. Can you let me know how this was decided? Thanks, --Gotanda (talk) 13:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Gotanda, I am happy to expand on the reasons why I closed as I did.

• First, with statements: Macdonald-ross' delete !vote was made without any justification and Shoot for the Stars' keep !vote was not very helpful either, just basically per IWI's comments, leaving us with:
  • Delete: Gotanda, Eptalon
  • Keep: IWI
• Now going through each point... With your nomination statement, you give three reasons for deleting:
  • Copy paste from EnWP w/o attribution. IWI comments that attribution has been given, and there is not any complex content, so this is not an issue.
  • Unmanageable list without standards or criteria for inclusion or exclusion. As IWI points out, there is criteria for inclusion – if there is a reliable source that calls them a sociologist, they can be included.
  • Better managed by categories. This is the final point that I believe was unaddressed in the whole RfD, that lists and categories are not duplicative and hence that is not a reason for deletion. That is why I added that in my closing statement.
• IWI argues against the points that you have given in the nomination statement, that I have already mentioned, also pointing out that It is useful for editors for having a list of articles to create.
• In Eptalon's vote, he says about removing people who died before 1850 and that we need a reference for each person after that, making this list high-maintenance.

So, after all of this, I'm basically left with your nomination points, two of which have been disputed, one that is a reason that is not recommended as a reason for deleting lists, Eptalon's comment saying that this is high-maintenance and IWI's comments that this is a helpful list. Ultimately, I chose to close as keep per what IWI says: I cannot see justification within the deletion policies or guidelines to delete. While in terms of !vote count, more people wanted to delete than keep, the reasoning for doing so was weaker on the delete side than on the keep, and there was no policy-/guideline-related reason to delete either. That combined with the fact that it had been open 3 days longer than intended made me believe that it was best to keep the article. However, if you still are not satisfied with the way I've dealt with this RfD, please search for another administrator on the administrators' noticeboard to review my actions. --Ferien (talk) 14:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. In the future I will make sure to more fully elaborate my reasoning then, but in this case I did not since it seemed to just be generating a lot of verbiage for no reason in an already overloaded RfD queue. We can see how Eptalon's point plays out. --Gotanda (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-11

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Elizabeth Langdon Williams Please be bold and help translate this article! Elizabeth Langdon Williams (February 8, 1879 in Putnam, Connecticut – 1981 in Enfield, New Hampshire) was an American human computer and astronomer whose work helped lead to the discovery of Pluto, or Planet X. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-11

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).
• Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Chavacano de Zamboanga Wikipedia, Min Dong Chinese Wikipedia, Chechen Wikipedia, Cebuano Wikipedia, Chamorro Wikipedia, Cherokee Wikipedia, Cheyenne Wikipedia, Central Kurdish Wikipedia, Corsican Wikipedia, Kashubian Wikipedia, Church Slavic Wikipedia, Chuvash Wikipedia, Welsh Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [20][21]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Looking for feedback on a specific article

Heya! Just wondering if you have time to look at Hut (dwelling). I'm planning to nominate it for DYK, is there anything that you (or someone watching this talk page) recommend I do? Thanks in advance, Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:44, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Justarandomamerican, hi! I don't know what you are going to make your hook, but the article definitely meets all the DYK requirements: it is US grade 6 on 3 out of 4 scores readability-wise, no red-linked categories or templates and has enough characters. No problems on my end! --Ferien (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hi Ferien, I am wondering if I could talk to you privately? Want to ask you a question. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, sure. Feel free to email me. --Ferien (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Did you receive an email? I checked my "sent" section in my email and it didn't show that it was sent. AJ (talk) 22:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it's because of the way Special:EmailUser works. I was going to explain it here but apparently mobile editor doesn't like me and just randomly deleted all my explanation... There's probably a page somewhere on Mediawiki that gives you explanation if you want it :) --Ferien (talk) 23:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Shoot for the Stars When you use Special:EmailUser, the email is sent by a Wikipedia e-mail account, not through your email, though the reply address will be your own email. This also means that the recipient can see your email, but you can't see theirs.

As for the issue on mobile, I've been experiencing it as well. If I have to write something long, I just write everything on a private discord server before pasting it on Wikipedia's reply box. The new reply feature on mobile is great, but it can use some more work. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 23:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Fehufanga! Mine seems to just add a load of blank lines at the end, and that box/symbol(?) that was at the beginning of the message I last sent. Much more convenient indeed, but doesn't seem to work very well... --Ferien (talk) 23:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey Ferien, I have been looking everywhere for your response and can't find it. I am so stupid when it comes to email. AJ (talk) 00:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, I will respond shortly, I haven't been able to look at your email properly yet. --Ferien (talk) 08:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2023-12

The winner this Translation of the week is en:I Didn't Raise My Boy to Be a Soldier Please be bold and help translate this article! an American anti-war song that was influential within the pacifist movement that existed in the United States before it entered World War I. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:31, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Last week, some users experienced issues loading image thumbnails. This was due to incorrectly cached images. [22]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).
• A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will appear on Special:Contributions — some user scripts which previously added this link may cause conflicts. This feature request was voted #17 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
• The Special:AbuseFilter edit window will be resizable and larger by default. This feature request was voted #80 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
• There will be a new option for Administrators when they are unblocking a user, to add the unblocked user’s user page to their watchlist. This will work both via Special:Unblock and via the API. [23]

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Wikipedia mobile apps teams. During the meeting, we will discuss the current features and future roadmap. The meeting will be on 24 March at 17:00 (UTC). See details and how to join.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!

Sorry for the late response Ferien, college has been really killing me. Anyway, I really appreciate the response! I wasn't sure to create the article due to the deletion of Richard Burnham going on, but now I know that one crime doesn't make someone notable even with there are multiple source writing about it. Thank you so much bro! AJ (talk) 04:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, I'm happy to have helped you :) --Ferien (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack!

How did you manage to copy-paste the entire contents of Airplane into User talk:207.177.213.206‎?? That was hilarious. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I always just copy and paste the page title when warning users for creating new pages, but somehow didn't end up copying the title. Then Airplane was in my clipboard as I was reviewing it for DYK. Definitely a deserved trout :P --Ferien (talk) 20:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)