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Requesting flood flag for 1 hourEdit

I’m going to be adding categories to articles in Category:Category needed and Category:Uncategorized stubs. This would really clog up new changes without the flood flag... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 22:08, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Please note that this user is community banned on[1] for widespread disruption and socking. (talk) 22:23, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
More socking than disruption actually. I did make good edits, I just did them under illegal sock accounts, and I’ve stopped doing that... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 22:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
You were indefinitely blocked for "Clearly not here to contribute to the encyclopedia"[2] and then you abused your talk page [3] by making no less then six unblock requests and being highly uncooperative when given a chance the be unblocked. The edits made from sock accounts/IPs were vandalism[4] as you admit to doing on your talk page. I suggest that anyone even considering giving this user any kind of permissions check with administrators first. (talk) 22:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
This is irrelevant. The one strike rule applies here and they haven't broken any rules on simple. Please stop commenting on this editor. IWI (chat) 22:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
WP:ONESTRIKE applies to blocking, this is a request for a permission. (talk) 22:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
I know, but there is no need to tell admins this as they are aware. IWI (chat) 23:03, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
I am just making sure that they know about this user's history before they give him a permission. While a user that is community banned on one wiki is free to edit other wikis, they should not be given permissions, especially if the disruption ended only a few months ago. (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
There are <150 pages in those two categories combined. I don't think what you're describing is A. a significant amount of edits and B. a significant amount of edits of repetitive nature. I'll defer to others here for final determination, particularly Auntof6 as they have more experience in that categorization work to sufficient judge if that's flood work. Only (talk) 01:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I agree with User:Only that categorizing is not a good thing to do under the flood flag. The flood flag is supposed to be used for a large number of edits that are essentially the same. The articles that need categories undoubtedly need different categories and different kinds of categories, so, to me, that is substantially different. I wouldn't grant the flood flag for that. Also, as Only said, the number isn't very high. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

From SithJarJar666's request, it seems that the categorisation entails some form of human judgement (to determine the category to assign the uncategorized articles). As such, I think that granting flood would be inappropriate for this task. By the way, two different requests for permission shouldn't be in the same section. The editor who arrived later ought to create a new section on AN to request for their own rights, not hijack another editor's thread. Chenzw  Talk  03:48, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

I’m formally withdrawing my requests as I misunderstood the quantity of edits required for the flood flag, and its purpose. Sorry for wasting your time... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 23:11, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Second Flood RequestEdit

Moving related posts from section above to here

I may also request to flood redirecting film pages to movie pages Naleksuh (talk) 22:23, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Only, Auntof6: What about film pages as mentioned above? Naleksuh (talk) 01:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
It's not clear what you're intending to do. Can you give examples of the edits you'd make? And please provide the category or set of articles you'd be working with so we can see the size of the "problem" you intend to fix. Only (talk) 02:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I believe Naleksuh wants to create redirects from "NAME OF MOVIE (film)" articles to "NAME OF MOVIE (movie)". If so, I don't see this as necessary. Yes, leave redirects from moves, but it isn't that important to require a mass creation IMO. As for, SithJarJar666, I'm not sure. IWI (chat) 02:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@Only: Redirect Last Exit to Brooklyn (film) to Last Exit to Brooklyn (movie), The Firm (1993 film) to The Firm (1993 movie), etc. Working with all disambiguate movie pages in this case. I would disagree that they are "not important", as it helps both readers trying to find the article from en and editors who avoid starting duplicates (which of course, is historically a problem) Naleksuh (talk) 02:08, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Like I asked above: please give us a sense of how many edits this would entail and where you're pulling these from. Only (talk) 02:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@Only: Apologies for the confusion, It covers all pages that disambiguate movies (either (movie) or (1337 movie) and such). There is a maximum of 1281 of those pages, however, the expected total number from this operation will be a bit less as some already exist. Hope this is clear! Naleksuh (talk) 02:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@Chenzw: See above, apologies for using the same section. I see you have commented that Sith's request is "innapropriate", but it seems you are neutral on my own? Naleksuh (talk) 04:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Are you talking about creating redirects from film to movie? I don't think we need such a mass creation of redirects. If you disagree, or that isn't what you're requesting, please explain. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Yes, that is the request however the creation of them is useful as ideally in most cases our title should be the same as English Wikipedia, with the exception being when our title is more simple. In such cases, the title on English Wikipedia should redirect to ours. This is better for both readers (getting a simpler title by changing en to simple) and editors who may try to start duplicate pages (several pages were at film titles before being fixed by me a few days ago. Ultimately, these pages are a good thing for the encyclopedia although not being created at the time, I would not see its use being lowered by automated creation. Is this reasonable? Naleksuh (talk) 08:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
As asked above, please provide a list of the ones you think need changing. You can put the list on a separate page (such as a user page) if you want. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

I believe specific examples were asked for, but if you want a list of all pages, here you go:

Extended content

All pages: 165785

Above is our list of movie pages, with film being planned to redirect to movie. For example, Z (film) will redirect to Z (movie). Yours, Mine and Ours (2005 film) will redirect to Yours, Mine and Ours (2005 movie) and such. Hope this answers all questions. Naleksuh (talk) 08:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

We are a different wiki to enwiki. There is no obligation in any policy or guideline for us to have the same title, and thus there is no need for so many redirects to be created. IWI (chat) 08:51, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Thank you. Policy and guidelines aren't necessarily the determining factor here. If you could keep your comments to a minimum, that would be helpful. You're causing edit conflicts as we try to work this out with Naleksuh. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Examples were asked for, but Only also asked "please provide the category or set of articles you'd be working with so we can see the size of the 'problem' you intend to fix". That unformatted list wasn't very helpful, so I've changed it to a list of the existing/proposed redirects so we can see which ones already exist. You're welcome to remove the ones that already exist if you want, so we can see how many you'd actually be creating.

Would you be creating the redirects manually, or using an automated process? If the latter, what would the process be?

On further consideration, I think this could be useful, because these films might be linked to by articles that are copied from enwiki. However, I'd like to hear from other admins as to 1) whether we want a mass creation done and 2) whether the flood flag would be appropriate for this. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@Auntof6: They will be created with Node script if approved, which can be run every two weeks or so. Flood flag would be useful the first time with the creation of around 1000 pages, but in the future, only 3-4 pages would be expected and flood flag would not be necessary. Naleksuh (talk) 18:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I think this is a valid use case for redirects, and they will definitely aid readers who "jump" between both Wikipedias by just modifying the domain name. I think this may be a task better left to a standalone bot account, however, especially since this will not be a one-off creation of redirects. Chenzw  Talk  07:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chenzw: I personally would prefer a semi-automated tool since although the first run will produce around a thousand new pages, there will only be around 1-2 new pages a week on subsequent runs, and is also semi-automated (started by me). However, this can easily be changed, if a fully automated bot is truly what is best. Let me know! Naleksuh (talk) 22:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
What I meant to say is that since this is going to be an ongoing task, rather than a one-off, I think the approval should be granted to a specific bot account rather than a human editor. Bot accounts can also run tasks on a semi-automatic basis. Chenzw  Talk  01:36, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chenzw: It is somewhat both - as 19 years of not doing this has created around a thousand pages of backlog, but we also will continue doing this with around 1-2 new pages a week, which is a number that is more than zero. If bot accounts are preferred in this case, I will look into creating one for this task Naleksuh (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Once we have caught up the majority there is probably no need for an ongoing bot account as I doubt the number of new ones per week is very high. At most I would think less than 5 a month as I doubt we have all that many movies created that require disambiguation in a given month. So after the initial run I would say it would likely even be able to be done by hand. (though semi-automated would of course be fine as well) -Djsasso (talk) 11:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Djsasso: I am glad that you agree with this assessment. So, do I have the goahead from you to flood recent changes / create the first wave? After that, with the very low number of pages created, there will be little flood at all. Naleksuh (talk) 20:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Found this edit on WDEdit

Just thought the admins should be aware. I'm not a big fan of filling CU requests on behalf on IP adresses nor do i know if the admins here are aware of whatever is going on. --Trade (talk) 02:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Nothing is going on except a long-term vandal harassing a good-faith contributor. Vermont (talk) 02:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  Resolved. Nothing more to do here
LTA, Jasper Deng beat me to blocking on wikidata, already globally blocked --DannyS712 (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Malfunctioning InfoboxEdit

The infobox on Best European Goalkeeper (and all other award pages) is malfunctioning. Two of the parameters, which are properly formatted and troubleshooted, are not displaying. I'm quite sure this is because of some error in Template:Infobox award. You can see on this template page that the small prototype of the infobox on the right-hand side is incomplete based on the syntaxes provided by "Usage" section. I think only editors with special rights can access the problem's source. ClumsyMind (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Handled on Simple Talk page. Operator873talkconnect 15:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit war on Talk:Katyn massacreEdit

Lots of edit warring on this page (not quite three reverts today, but its been going on a few days now), as you can see in the revision history. Not quite sure what an admin would do here, besides either (a) blocking the people involved, (b) semiprotecting the page, or (c) all of the above. The admins will know what to do, which is why I brought this here... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 20:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

It's the same long-term abuser as in this thread above: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Found_this_edit_on_WD. Just revert and ignore, or semi-protect is ok too. Antandrus (talk) 21:01, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Requesting flood flag againEdit

I know my last request was declined, but I believe this one is appropriate. Using a search string found on Auntof6’s user page, I will go convert every use of the “external links” (or something similar) header to “other websites”. There are ~300 search results found for the string, so it’s probably a high enough number. It would take me about two hours to complete the task, so I’m requesting flood flag for two hours. And yes, to forestall that IP, yes I’m a former sockmaster/troll... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 18:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Not comfortable giving this flag to a user new to when they are a former troll/sockmaster. I would be surprised if there are many that need fixing as Auntof6 runs through that list fairly often, most are likely false positives. I am currently doing a run through them and have only found two that need changing. -Djsasso (talk) 19:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Djsasso: l)inks|Related (W|w)eb ?sites|Outside (L|l)inks|Other (S|s)ites|Other ((W|w)eb ?pages)) ?==/|Look again. There is seriously like 300 search results, not two... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 19:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that search brings up thousands of articles. But not all of them actually require a change. That is what false positives means. (and I said so far) -Djsasso (talk) 19:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Djsasso: Ah, I see. Yep you're right, not all of them need fixing. I guess I can still fix the ones that need fixing by hand... --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 19:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit warringEdit

‎Andrew07111712 is edit warring by copying the full article from the English Wikipedia on Battle of Sluys‎. IWI (chat) 23:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

  Done indeffed by Danny. IWI (chat) 01:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


I closed Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/MediaWiki:Gadget-newpagesbox.js, but don't see a link to delete the page. Does it require a crat to delete, or some other permission I dont have? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Nope - you should be able to delete it. Thats a bug; filing on phabricator --DannyS712 (talk) 20:44, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Danny. Same for Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/MediaWiki:Gadget-recentchangesbox.js. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Until its fixed, you can delete it by temporarily getting interface admin rights --DannyS712 (talk) 21:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chenzw, Djsasso, Enfcer, Eptalon: Then would one of the crats either give me the rights or go ahead and delete these? Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: I have given you interface administrator rights (expiring in a day); feel free to delete them. --Eptalon (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
@Eptalon: Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 23:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Peg + CatEdit

An anonymous user has violated the three-revert rule by continuing continued the long-term edit war on the page. Some kind of range block could be useful, if possible. IWI (chat) 20:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

2604:6000:1114:0:0:0:0:0/48 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Above range soft blocked. No or very low collateral on this project. Operator873talkconnect 21:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
@Operator873: That should do it. Thanks, IWI (chat) 21:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection on KeshaEdit

Kesha (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

The article just keeps on getting vandalized. Keeps getting vandalized. Can I Log In (talk) 22:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Seems to be the same few IPs (that have now been (range-)blocked). One of those IP blocks will expire in about 2 days, so I will keep an eye on the page and prepare a new and longer block if necessary. Chenzw  Talk  01:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal on QD TemplateEdit

Hello, I have been tagging Indian Wiki for QD A4. The user keeps removing the template, despite my call to start on a discussion on the article talk page, and via a message on his user talk page. --Yottie =talk= 16:12, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

  Done Article is gone now. Chenzw  Talk  16:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Katyn massacreEdit

Vandalism from LTA proxies returns as soon as protection expires. IWI (chat) 22:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

  Done Protected by Djsasso for a month. IWI (chat) 04:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of a user pageEdit

This user page looks like an article so it should be deleted. Pokai (talk) 12:01, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Got it. The user was globally locked for spam so no need for it to exist. Only (talk) 12:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Spam by Santoshp123Edit

Santoshp123 (talk · contribs) added three links to an Indian blog to Independence Day (United States) - diff here. That was their only contribution so far. At En, they are blocked indefinitely for spamming, see en:User:Santoshp123. I'd suggest to block them here, too. --Rsk6400 (talk) 07:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Indef'd. Hiàn (talk) 15:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)