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Personal noteEdit

I have registered a new username and account, mainly because the security system was being difficult about my old registration. I will make edits under the new username only. This is just to let everyone know that I am the same person as user:Macdonald-ross, but now edits will be made under this username. Checkusers can identify my location. Editors may still call me Mac! Or 'Brick', I guess... Balham Brick (talk) 11:25, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Balham Brick: Please do not use this "new account" until we can authenticate your claim. If you're having authentication issues, I can reset your account's password. If you're having 2FA issues, contact caย for assistance. Operator873talkconnect 14:14, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I had already done a few edits. The event which precipitated the problem was as follows. My account was blocked on the grounds that my password was inadequate. Nine times I offered more complex passwords, but to no avail. Then it seemed there was no alternative to creating a new account (you will realise that I know little about modern computer systems). Balham Brick (talk) 15:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
@Balham Brick: May I know how many characters you used for the password, can you try to have one at least 10 characters. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
(Non-Adminstrator Comment) We cannot use the Check user tool to identify your location... --Thegooduser Let's Talk!ย :) ๐Ÿ 16:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
My password for this account has 10 digits. Originally the Macdonald-ross account had 8 digits; at some stage I updated it to 10 digits. My record of this is less clear than I would like, obviously, but events in real life have not been helpful. Balham Brick (talk) 09:12, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
As long as you have met Special:PasswordPolicies, there is no way you will be blocked. The best way now is to send an email to caย @Balham Brick:
@Thegooduser: CU can be used for possible compromise, and the IP geolocation tool can then be used to find the location. No comments if a CU is appropriate in this case.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
My preference would be to edit under the original user name. I am still at a loss to know how or if that could be achieved. Balham Brick (talk) 11:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
@Balham Brick: The only way is to email Trust and Safety via the email we have given you. If there is a recovery email you can try email resets. Or else I think if you can find a trusted user to vouch for you, otherwise, sorry there seems no way. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:08, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Your suggestion worked, and I am back with my original handle. I now have a 10-character handle password. I see no reason to use the other account again. Thank you for your advice! Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
@Macdonald-ross Very glad to see you back Macย :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:33, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Macdonald-ross Just a friendly reminder, that if you don't plan to ever use that account ever again, you should block it locally, and request a global lock, so in the case, that account does get compromised, they cannot say it's you. --Thegooduser Let's Talk!ย :) ๐Ÿ 00:41, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The CellarEdit

The Cellar in Arlington Heights Ill also had Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin play there just prior to thier demise.

A proposalEdit

Hello Admins.

I am here to ask you for your input on an idea I had come up with. As you may or may not know, I am currently blocked on enwiki for sockpuppetry and vandalism. I am ashamed of these things, and I understand your lack of trust in me. However, I am in a unique position. Most sockpuppets, at least what I can see, are only made to cause infinite harm to the project. However, I would like you to to see how I have grown as a user, from simply blanking random pages, to stop others from causing harm. I would like to propose a way to help those who have grown return to the community in a positive manner. This would include them being unblocked, keeping tabs on them, and ensuring they are supporting this project. At the end of a defined period, they will be reviewed by an administrator or by consensus that would either unblock them for good (as long as they do not make any harmful edits), determine that they need more time with a user, or completely deny their return. I understand letting a user be unblocked could end badly, however, I also think it's the opportunity for them to show who they really want to be, supportive or not. Please let me know what you think. rollingbarrels (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

That sounds like what we used to do for mentorship arrangements, a few years back then. Unfortunately, I am not sure if the editor numbers and activity will be able to support this program nowadays. Chenzwย ย Talkย  12:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
(Non-Admin Comment) I'd be very happy to assist and support editors who were blocked as socks (those who have grown) to become a new & better editor. I'd be very happy to do a mentorship agreement if needed. --Thegooduser Let's Talk!ย :) ๐Ÿ 02:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Once again: Repeated vandalism at HumanEdit

Once again (cf. above, #Repeated vandalism at Human), the article Human has been targeted by different IPv6 addresses: Today (Nov 13) the address is 2601:283:c202:7180:86c0:efff:fed3:cf57ย (talkย ยท contribs), yesterday it was 2601:283:c202:7180:85be:6faf:c750:366bย (talkย ยท contribs). As far as I can see, they always remove bonobos from the list of apes closely related to humans. --Rsk6400 (talk) 16:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Non-admin comment: I think it need page proctection. Tbiw (talk) 10:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
In general we don't protect here unless completely necessary. In this case a range block has/will fix this situation so no need to block every anonymous editor. -Djsasso (talk) 16:42, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

en:Template:User zh-yue-3Edit

If imported, would I be able to use that babel userbox here? --Thegooduser Let's Talk!ย :) ๐Ÿ 00:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: Yes. I just imported it and I was able to use it on my user page. (I didn't save it, though, since I don't know that language. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Auntof6! --Thegooduser Let's Talk!ย :) ๐Ÿ 00:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion to import glossary templatesEdit

Any thoughts on importing glossary templates from enwiki? For example: {{glossary}}, {{glossary end}}, {{glossary link}}, {{glossary link internal}}, {{term}}, and {{defn}}. (For all glossary templates see the category en:Category:Glossary templates). I can see them being fairly useful, particularly for embedded glossaries or wherever a topic cannot avoid defining certain terms. I'm interested to know if it's feasible. Kindly, Oeqtte (talk) 12:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Generally we bring over templates as they are used/needed. I can't really think of any articles here that have embedded glossaries. If someone creates an article that needs them they can bring them over. But generally being that we are Simple English Wikipedia you should be attempting to write such an article without the need for a glossary. -Djsasso (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response! While yes it should be avoided where possible, it is also somewhat a fact of the matter that articles define certain terms. Two points from the Wikipedia:About page that I had in mind:
  • things are a little different from the things the ordinary English Wikipedia does not do. For example, in the Simple English version it is more important to explain slang, idioms, and jargon.
  • For detailed writing about science, politics, or religion, articles sometimes need more words, but the English must be simple. Sometimes, an article needs words not included in the Basic English combined wordlist, but it explains all the difficult words. Articles may also need some complex words because of the article names in the ordinary English Wikipedia, and to use normal words would make the article too simple. Articles on scientific topics might also need complex words.
I would also consider that without proper glossary formatting, embedded or unembedded glossaries should be avoided. There are already a small handful of stand-alone glossaries on Simple English Wikipedia, but they lack proper formatting. The result is that on any article where uncommon terms are unavoidable, terms that have their own pages can be linked to but other explanations of terms are hidden in body paragraphs. I would also add that since embedded glossaries can only fit a small number of entries, any article using one would be limiting itself to only the most essential uncommon terms. Cheers, Oeqtte (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

remove my wikipidia accountEdit

my account name is Imane Khaldi and I want to remove it โ€”ย Preceding unsigned comment added by Imane Khaldi (talk โ€ข contribs) 20:15, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@Imane Khaldi: I'm sorry, Wikipedia accounts cannot be deleted/removed. You can have it renamed: see Wikipedia:Changing username for information on that. You might also want to read Wikipedia:Right to vanish if you plan to never edit again. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


Please import en:Template:Indian Rupee/doc. --Saroj Uprety (talk) 03:51, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Saroj Uprety: ย ย Done --Auntof6 (talk) 08:39, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Malformed RFDEdit

Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/Please review notability should be moved to Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/Souhardya_De and transcluded. Can't move as the destination page isn't trivial in history.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:02, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Now seems creator had done a cut-paste move, need histmerge. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:05, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Eddie Van HalenEdit

Vandalism immediately after release of protection, it's one IP for now, can monitor and block if needed but hoping some admin can protect again if deemed necessary as the reverting is counterproductive and is for someone who is recently dead, some respects should be shown (that's not a protection reason I know, but still). Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Only one instance of vandalism since the protection expired, so no action for now. I've added it to my watchlist. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Might want to reconsider now, given it is going on for a couple of days. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Racist vandalism at Black PeopleEdit

An IP has made a racist and obscene edit at Black people: diff. The same IP reverted immediately afterwards, but I'd still like to ask an admin to change the visibility in the page history. --Rsk6400 (talk) 08:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

ย ย Done Peterdownunder (talk) 11:07, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

View SourceEdit

Shouldn't it be change to "see code"? This is the Simple Wikipedia. --GeometryDashFan12 (talk) 15:14, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

This shouldn't be here, but rather WP:ST. I will say see is more complex than view, like we don't use "see also" but we use "related pages", I think view source seems easier to understand. @GeometryDashFan12 Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Flood Flag for Hot Cat work pleaseEdit

I'm doing some redirect category stuff can an admin grant me this please so that way i don't flood the New changes area thanks! Derpdart56 (talk) 16:36, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Harassment by DafdgasfEdit

The user sent me an intimidating email threatening me to use my rollback and patroller flags to do I don't know what (I didn't understand what they meant). This is not the first time I have received such emails from this wiki. Such behaviour is not acceptable and must be sanctioned. Esteban16 (talk) 18:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Esteban16 would you mind forwarding the email to me? - there are a few LTAs that send harassing emails, and if I can confirm its an LTA I'll block and request a lock (or a checkuser can check their ip...) DannyS712 (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)