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Depreciated title change
Hi. I went through and removed DISPLAYTITLE from all article spaces. Now, everything left in Category:Pages with ignored display titles are user pages. I do not want to touch those pages, but a great majority are not active and have not been for some time. I was wondering if you wanted to take any action on those so that the cat can get cleared out and down to zero. I’ve been able to clear out a few other cats that are error based and I’m working on the lacks free doi one (takes a bit but getting there). I’ve also been working on the Harv errors as well since I studied them on my “vacation”. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Would you explain why you removed DISPLAYTITLE? As far as I know, it is still needed for some articles (and I see it's still on one where it's needed). I also see one where you removed it, Aelfric of Eynsham, where you could have renamed the page to accomplish what the DISPLAYTITLE was trying to do.
- By the way, the word is "deprecated," not "depreciated".
- When cleaning out this kind of category, please be thoughtful about what you're doing. Sometimes a thing that is flagged as an error doesn't mean it actually is an error or needs any action. Sometimes it needs action other than just removing the thing that's being flagged. -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- It comes back as ignored (my phone autocorrects so apologies for that). If the display title is ignored then it is useless. I looked at the article you mentioned. There is no difference on the title displayed when I look at the previous version vs the version where it is removed. The only difference is prior to the removal that version shows it on the hidden category of display title ignored. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:53, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: It's true that an ignored DISPLAYTITLE is useless. However, that one was trying to display the name with the correct "Æ" character. That didn't work because it didn't match the title, so it was ignored. However, if you think about what it was trying to do, that shows that the article needs to be renamed. Removing the DISPLAYTITLE without fixing that doesn't address the issue.
- And I feel your pain about autocorrect. It gets even worse when I'm typing in a different language. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- But moving the page to a name not using standard keys on a keyboard will affect the search for it, will it not? I do not know how to search for that. I would need to copy and paste it or find the alt number to type it in. It could also be a restricted character through the software as well per the template documents on en wiki. I can go through them and try a page redirect based on what was trying to be accomplished with the display title and see what happens. But with that particular article, how would one search for that with c/p or the character code? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: The same way people search for it on enwiki? You could definitely leave a redirect with the current name. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I moved it to Ælfric of Eynsham. Left a redirect in place with the standard keys of Aelfric of Eynsham to direct to the new one. I’ll look at the others and fix them if they indeed need fixing. Some were the same page name. Thanks for the input. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not sure how to do this one, as I believe I need an admin. Kīlauea is redirected to Kilauea which is backwards. So I can’t move it. Looks like Kīlauea was created first then moved by this individual SEPTActaMTA8235. Once moved back, it should be fine. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Are you able to switch this one Kīlauea it’s backwards. That page is a redirect to the English without the dialect mark and should be reversed. Non-dialect to dialect. It will require a deletion. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not sure how to do this one, as I believe I need an admin. Kīlauea is redirected to Kilauea which is backwards. So I can’t move it. Looks like Kīlauea was created first then moved by this individual SEPTActaMTA8235. Once moved back, it should be fine. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- But moving the page to a name not using standard keys on a keyboard will affect the search for it, will it not? I do not know how to search for that. I would need to copy and paste it or find the alt number to type it in. It could also be a restricted character through the software as well per the template documents on en wiki. I can go through them and try a page redirect based on what was trying to be accomplished with the display title and see what happens. But with that particular article, how would one search for that with c/p or the character code? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- It comes back as ignored (my phone autocorrects so apologies for that). If the display title is ignored then it is useless. I looked at the article you mentioned. There is no difference on the title displayed when I look at the previous version vs the version where it is removed. The only difference is prior to the removal that version shows it on the hidden category of display title ignored. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:53, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Another request please change
On that same date, can you please send me the contents of status and statustemplate that were subpages of mine please? Email is fixed so I only need it sent once. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 04:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- NVM, I was able to do it without the code. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 05:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
AWB Task change
Hi. When you get a chance can you remove all the :en: links from Template:Metro Manila TV please? Every single one is linked to en wiki. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 07:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Done May I suggest leaving the IP a message to let them know not to use :en: links? -- Auntof6 (talk) 09:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Will do and thank you so much. :) Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 09:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done I thought we had a template somewhere for it? You can view what I said here. I need to post it to a few more IPs. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: I don't remember seeing a template specifically for that. What I usually tell people is that the red links tell us what articles would be helpful to create. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:45, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks. I think maybe @Ferien had something he copied and pasted at one point. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: I don't remember seeing a template specifically for that. What I usually tell people is that the red links tell us what articles would be helpful to create. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:45, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done I thought we had a template somewhere for it? You can view what I said here. I need to post it to a few more IPs. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Will do and thank you so much. :) Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 09:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Category reporting error change
Hi. So on Category:BLPs needing more sources it shows on the right 118 articles needing more sources. When you scroll down just under the 98 subcategories heading it states there are 335 pages needed sources. There are none that are marked with no date (I’ve fixed those based on history). Do you know how to figure out where that number is coming from? For some reason I tend to believe the 335 number is correct based on our articles. And I just looked again. Some articles are dated back to 2012. Should I go through and update them to see if they are current and if not refresh the tag? I would need a list (probably a search somehow of those prior to the first maintenance cat we have for this?). Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: I don't know. I never trust the numbers in the sidebars on the right, and I don't know how they're derived. Enwiki's numbers don't look like they match, either, although theirs seem closer.
- Possibilities:
- It could be a cache problem.
- The date isn't always specified. I found at least one that doesn't have one.
- There may be more templates assigning these categories than the two listed; maybe those transclusions aren't included in the totals in the sidebar. However, I couldn't find any other templates or any modules that assign the categories.
- Some articles may have the category hard coded, although I don't see any of these, either.
- When I said I didn't find any, I only checked the main template name. I didn't look to see if there are any redirects to the templates.
- And it gets weirder. According the transclusion count:
- Template:BLP sources is transcluded 340 times
- Template:BLP unsourced is transcluded 900 times (but I don't know how many of them use the section parameter)
- -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wow so looks like I should try to trace it down somehow. The transclusions can be a problem. I’ll dive into it over the next two weeks and see what I can find. Thanks for the info. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: You might want to post this kind of thing at Simple talk. I don't really know that much about the behind-the-scenes stuff. -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- It’s ok. I can figure it out. That’s what I’ve been doing behind the scenes. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Can you run a null edit through AWB please against the list at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:BLP unsourced please so I can see if my theory works? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Not right now -- that's 900 pages and I'm trying to wrap things up for today. I'll get back to you later. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I will chat with you later. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Not right now -- that's 900 pages and I'm trying to wrap things up for today. I'll get back to you later. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Can you run a null edit through AWB please against the list at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:BLP unsourced please so I can see if my theory works? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 14:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- It’s ok. I can figure it out. That’s what I’ve been doing behind the scenes. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: You might want to post this kind of thing at Simple talk. I don't really know that much about the behind-the-scenes stuff. -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wow so looks like I should try to trace it down somehow. The transclusions can be a problem. I’ll dive into it over the next two weeks and see what I can find. Thanks for the info. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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I figured out why theirs contains so many compared to ours. They have all articles that have any BLP template on it (i.e. Needs verification, disputed, etc.). I randomly picked out pages from here which shows a ton of articles. So I think the closest we have (as our counter is empty and has no link bancks - maybe delete it or I can trace their populating schema) is Category:Unreferenced_BLPs. So this is only those that are tagged no sources, not any of the other BLP tags. So at this point, I think we are good, but for the link on the start up we may want to change the category to the page with all of them listed and not just the recent ones. I am going to reach out to media wiki tech about why it won't show the earlier ones in the list, as it seems limited. Thanks and sorry about the long chain we have going. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:48, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Do you still want me to do the null edits? -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes please. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: OK, I'll do that now and let you know when it's done. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:11, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Done -- Auntof6 (talk) 11:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Also, let me know if that made any difference. -- Auntof6 (talk) 11:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome. Thank you. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 11:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Will do. I did find out it could also be an error with how the original box on the right was set up, so I will need to dive into that. I will let you know. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 11:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome. Thank you. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 11:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: OK, I'll do that now and let you know when it's done. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes please. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Tools change
On your user page you have the dab solver with an ip address. When I click on it, it comes back the ip is not found. Does it work for you? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Not at the moment. There's a note at en:User:Dispenser/Dab solver that says "The Dab solver tool is broken and its maintainer is inactive.". Also see en:Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation_pages_with_links/Archive_15#Dabsolver_is_down. Phooey. -- Auntof6 (talk) 12:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Aw and that would explain it. I wonder if do some else will pick it up or if a replacement was made. I can’t imagine en going without it. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Would you want the Dab solver back? I can probably get it updated to work. I am not sure how many editors use it, but if you really want it, I can do it. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: It was very useful, but the truth is I didn't use it very often. So I don't know how much I would use it. I don't often come across pages that have multiple links to dab pages, and where there's just one I use popups. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Need to clarify: I meant links to multiple dab pages. When I'm taking care of links to a single dab page, I use popups, which works for any number of links to the dab page in question. Of course, popups doesn't have the ability to disambiguate the same link to different pages, which Dab solver had. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks for the information. Let me see what I can do. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Would you want the Dab solver back? I can probably get it updated to work. I am not sure how many editors use it, but if you really want it, I can do it. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Aw and that would explain it. I wonder if do some else will pick it up or if a replacement was made. I can’t imagine en going without it. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Ephebophilia incorrect introduction change
Hi, the introduction to the article Ephebophilia, the part that cannot be edited in any way by common users, indicates it as a "paraphilia characterized by sexual attraction to adolescents aged from 15-18". Ephebophilia is not classified as a paraphilia but more of a sexual preference, one of chronophilic kind. Plus, the given range is 15-19, not 15-18. Could you correct it please? Thank you. 151.44.70.104 (talk) 13:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- According to the page's metadata, you should be able to make the change yourself, if you provide reliable sources to support it. (talk page stalker) Justarandomamerican (t • c) 13:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- But I can't, it's the very brief description right below the title. 151.46.59.58 (talk) 13:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. You may make the change here: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Q595012 Justarandomamerican (t • c) 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks 👍👍 151.46.59.58 (talk) 13:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. You may make the change here: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Q595012 Justarandomamerican (t • c) 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking about sources, as you can see, ephebophilia is not classified as a paraphilia: https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/291419-overview?form=fpf#a1
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32119312/#:~:text=A%20total%20of%20eight%20Paraphilias,%2C%20fetishism%2C%20and%20transvestic%20fetishism.
- https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178912000845
- https://courses.lumenlearning.com/wm-abnormalpsych/chapter/paraphilic-disorders/
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/paraphilias?amp
- https://www.medicinenet.com/paraphilia/article.htm
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/paraphilias
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3769077/ 151.46.59.58 (talk) 13:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- But I can't, it's the very brief description right below the title. 151.46.59.58 (talk) 13:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks change
Xenia (article). I forgot to say "thanks", at the end of the previous discussion. Thanks a lot. 2001:2020:313:EBE1:FD03:DA0D:1462:F44 (talk) 20:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
If I am not mistaken change
Did you not just delete a lot of redirects to non-existent articles? This IP is doing the same thing and has 3 warnings already today. 82.23.107.184. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 20:56, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Yes, I did. I'll take care of these, too. Thanks for the heads-up. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think Fehu took care of them as he blocked the IP for a year knowing who it is. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: And let me remind you: the "only" warnings are not meant to be used when there after other warnings. The word "only" means that there aren't any others, so using it when there are others doesn't make sense. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- In re please? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: This warning you left for the IP we're discussing. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I did that due to the time and the difference in what they were doing. A lot of users have warnings, but the template says only, and I felt that the 50 or so pages they were creating before I could get an admin/sysop to block them were worth it instead of using the final warning. The idea was to tell them they will be blocked, whereas the other templates at 1, 2, and 3 say they may be blocked. We only have two options, and going in order would have defeated my purpose of trying to get them to stop. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: This warning you left for the IP we're discussing. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- In re please? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Disambig's change
Have you tried this script by chance? w:User:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist.js Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: I don't think so. What does it do? -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry should have included the doc User:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Thanks. I might look at it sometime when I want to do a significant amount of disambiguating. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. It looks like the website you used to use would need to become a tool and be run by a bot. I could develop it as the script is premade, I would just need to figure it out and figure out how this entire topic works with what has to be done and such. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: Thanks. I might look at it sometime when I want to do a significant amount of disambiguating. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry should have included the doc User:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)