User talk:Ferien/Archives/2024/August

special:redirect/logid/2780541

Hello, I'm contacting you with respect to Special:Diff/9669853. You may want to check this logged action. Do you think this needs RFDA? MathXplore (talk) 07:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

MathXplore, thanks for notifying me about that. I'll keep an eye on the situation, but I don't think I'd want to start a big dispute over that sort of page. It isn't eligible for deletion technically, but I don't really have an issue with the deletion. --Ferien (talk) 11:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-32

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en:Suffrage drama

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Suffrage drama (also known as suffrage plays or suffrage theatre) is a form of dramatic literature that emerged during the British women's suffrage movement in the early twentieth century. Suffrage performances lasted approximately from 1907-1914. Many suffrage plays called for a predominant or all female cast. Suffrage plays served to reveal issues behind the suffrage movement.

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Trupa Muzicii Rock

Do you think this is a hoax? An odd amount is the same as en:The Moody Blues. 207.114.136.166 (talk) 21:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

It may be real. They may have just got an article for another band and substituted it in as they might have thought creating an article that way is easier than afresh. But it almost certainly isn't notable, and there are definitely false claims in there, like the band came to prominence with the UK No. 1 and US Top 10 single "Underneath Your Clothes" in late 2014/early 2015. I'll nominate it for deletion I think. --Ferien (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Comment: it was created again. 207.114.136.166 (talk) 23:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. As the RfD closed with no comments, it can't be deleted again with G4 so I've sent it to RfD again. --Ferien (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for protecting the article on Alha

Hi Ferien, hope you are fine. Would request you to look at the revision history of the article on Alha. Persistent caste related POV pushing (disruptive editing) by IP and unexplained reverts have become a regular issue. Please intervene. Thanks & Regards. Alan Charlotte (talk) 02:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Alan Charlotte, I protected it for a month. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for protection of article mihir bhoj caste

Hey Ferien, it’s a request to look at the revision history of the article on mihir bhoj caste. Protection of this article from vandalism is necessary as unsourced editing and unexplained reverts have become a regular issue.Please intervene. Thanks & Regards. 103.46.201.30 (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think protection on that article is necessary. Please report to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard if vandalism on the article gets worse. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

• Two new parser functions will be available this week: {{#dir}} and {{#bcp47}}. These will reduce the need for Template:Dir and Template:BCP47 on Commons and allow us to drop 100 million rows from the "what links here" database. Editors at any wiki that use these templates, can help by replacing the templates with these new functions. The templates at Commons will be updated during the Hackathon at Wikimania. [1][2]
• Communities can request the activation of the visual editor on entire namespaces where discussions sometimes happen (for instance Wikipedia: or Wikisource: namespaces) if they understand the known limitations. For discussions, users can already use DiscussionTools in these namespaces.
• The tracking category "Pages using Timeline" has been renamed to "Pages using the EasyTimeline extension" in TranslateWiki. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match.

Project updates

• Editors who help to organize WikiProjects and similar on-wiki collaborations, are invited to share ideas and examples of successful collaborations with the Campaigns and Programs teams. You can fill out a brief survey or share your thoughts on the talkpage. The teams are particularly looking for details about successful collaborations on non-English wikis.
• The new parser is being rolled out on Wikivoyage wikis over the next few months. The English Wikivoyage and Hebrew Wikivoyage were switched to Parsoid last week. For more information, see Parsoid/Parser Unification.

Learn more

• There will be more than 200 sessions at Wikimania this week. Here is a summary of some of the key sessions related to the product and technology area.
• The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available.
• The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: New design previews for Translatable pages; Updates about MinT for Wiki Readers; the release of Translation dumps; and more.
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Misspelled template in one of your archives

I noticed that "talkback" is misspelled (as "talback") in one of the "Vandalism" sections of User talk:Ferien/Archives/2021/April, making it show up in wanted templates. I'm just letting you know in case you'd like to fix it. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Auntof6, thanks! I've removed it. --Ferien (talk) 19:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Beauty of the beat

Hi, I know you're in the middle of something, but since you're online right now, I wanted to report to you the recent changes on Beauty of the beat. The IP keeps removing the RFD template. VirusDontKill (talk) 19:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ferien, I have no objections if you want to delete the article, As there wasn't really a discussion the first time round I thought it should sort of be forced the second time round but yeah I'm not fussed, can be deleted and salted for all I care lol, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry both @Davey2010 and VirusDontKill: I suddenly had to go a few minutes after I had last edited when you posted that message. I've deleted the page and protected it from creation for 2 weeks. Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 22:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ferien, No worries - real life should always come first over here so no worries, Brilliant thank you for your swift and helpful actions :), Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 23:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-33

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en:Karatgurk
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In the Australian Aboriginal mythology of the Aboriginal people of south-eastern Australian state of Victoria, the Karatgurk were seven sisters who represented the constellation known in western astronomy as the Pleiades.

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Continuation of my problem

@Ferien, you told me to move the conversation of the weird logouts to either of our talk pages, so I moved it here.

I don't really get any specific messages; it happens randomly and suddenly. Sometimes it happens when I open a new tab, go to the recent changes, or refresh the page. Haumeon (talk) 20:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Haumeon, ok. When you get logged out, do you have to enter your password again when you log back in? It might be a caching issue. --Ferien (talk) 20:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

No, it fills in the password for me. Also an update on the logout problem: It always logs me out when I visit my homepage or userpage, and most of the time when I visit a user-related page like someone's talk page or my contributions. Haumeon (talk) 21:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Haumeon, could I ask you to login on incognito mode and see whether the issue persists? If the login issues don't occur there, it will definitely be some sort of caching issue. --Ferien (talk) 21:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, I'm not using a very popular browser, so I'll go try Chrome and see how incognito works there too. Haumeon (talk) 21:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Haumeon, is the issue still occurring? --Ferien (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

It's gotten a little bit less common, but it still occurs when I visit my user page or occasionally in other cases. 🪐 Haumeon the Adventurer 🪐 22:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I really don't know what could be causing it at this point. You will probably get a more helpful response from a more technically-minded editor on simple talk. Apologies. --Ferien (talk) 23:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. 🪐 Haumeon the Adventurer 🪐 00:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

• AbuseFilter editors and maintainers can now make a CAPTCHA show if a filter matches an edit. This allows communities to quickly respond to spamming by automated bots. [3]
• Stewards can now specify if global blocks should prevent account creation. Before this change by the Trust and Safety Product Team, all global blocks would prevent account creation. This will allow stewards to reduce the unintended side-effects of global blocks on IP addresses.

Project updates

• Nominations are open on Wikitech for new members to refresh the Toolforge standards committee. The committee oversees the Toolforge Right to fork policy and Abandoned tool policy among other duties. Nominations will remain open until at least 2024-08-26.
• One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in West Coast Bajau (w:bdr:) [4]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Translation

Hi, Ferien Recently I have translated my userpage from enwiki, can you help me to merge that or guide me how to do it ? Xegma(talk) 17:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Xegma, apologies, I'm a little confused on what you're asking. Which two things do you want to merge? Is this a history merge? --Ferien (talk) 22:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I am talking about this [5], can you merge this ? I can see your userpage also available in en and simple wiki. Xegma(talk) 04:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah. If you mean the interwiki links between my user pages, you can just add [[en:User:Xegma]] to the bottom of your userpage to have "English" appear as another language available for your user page under "In other languages" --Ferien (talk) 12:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay, now I have understood this thing and also learned something new. Thanks for the guide. Cheers. :-) Xegma(talk) 13:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No problem, feel free to ask if you need any more help :) --Ferien (talk) 13:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Vandal/Disruptor

Hi Ferien, hope you are fine. User:38.114.123.42 has been adding cateist nonsense cross-wiki across multiple pages. The highest edits being on here, please restrict the editing rights of this vandal at the earliest. Thanks & Regards. Alan Charlotte (talk) 00:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Alan Charlotte, hi, I can't see this is obvious vandalism and don't understand the topic at hand too much to be able to say this is definitely vandalism. That being said, I've blocked the IP as a VPN. --Ferien (talk) 19:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-34

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en:B1 (classification)

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B1 is a medical-based Paralympic classification for blind sport. Athletes in this classification are totally or almost totally blind. It is used by a number of blind sports including blind tennis, para-alpine skiing, para-Nordic skiing, blind cricket, blind golf, five-a-side football, goalball and judo. Some other sports, including adaptive rowing, athletics and swimming, have equivalents to this class.

The B1 classification was first created by the IBSA in the 1970s, and has largely remained unchanged since despite an effort by the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) to move towards a more functional and evidence-based classification system. Classification is often handled on the international level by the International Blind Sports Federation (IBSA) but it sometimes handled by national sport federations. There are exceptions for sports like athletics and cycling, where classification is handled by their own governing bodies.

Equipment utilized by competitors in this class may differ from sport to sport, and may include sighted guides, guide rails, beeping balls and clapsticks. There may be some modifications related to equipment and rules to specifically address needs of competitors in this class to allow them to compete in specific sports. Some sports specifically do not allow a guide, whereas cycling and skiing require one.

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Tech News: 2024-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

• Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
• Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [6]
• Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the categories property of mw.title objects. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [7][8]

Bugs status

• Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with Talk:WP: so that their titles start with Wikipedia talk:), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388.
• Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Project updates

• The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.

Learn more

• The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
• The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.

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Changing content model

Hello @Ferien, could you please change the content model for my CSS user-subpages User:Cyber.Eyes.2005/SnowFlakes.css and User:Cyber.Eyes.2005/AnimatedStyles.css? Both need to be switched from "CSS" to "Sanitized CSS" to function and use TemplateStyles correctly. – Cyber.Eyes2005^Talk 09:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cyber.Eyes.2005:  Done --Ferien (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks :) – Cyber.Eyes2005^Talk 14:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Notable Topic

Hi how are you ? @Ferien

I think this topic is notable can you take a look to the subject and let me know ?

he has significant and reliable coverage in several language Alexinusa33 (talk) 10:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello Alexinusa33, which topic are you referring to? --Ferien (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello take a look here Alexinusa33 (talk) 11:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I can't add sources here or in content Alexinusa33 (talk) 11:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Alexinusa33, it doesn't look like that person is notable. A lot of the sources I see are primary sources, which do not affect notability. --Ferien (talk) 11:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

We have English language sources from the Turkish Daily Sabah newspaper, Anadolu Agency, TRT World channel, and also newspapers in Turkish such as Yeni Safak and Al Masa, as well as coverage in Arabic, which makes him prominent in Turkey because of the work he does. Alexinusa33 (talk) 11:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

hope you can consider this topic is notable and I will work on the content Alexinusa33 (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Alexinusa33, if you are having issues posting the sources to this talk page, please email me the sources for me to review and I will respond to you here. --Ferien (talk) 11:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes 1 min Alexinusa33 (talk) 11:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I've noticed you're evading a block so I've blocked your account. --Ferien (talk) 11:17, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi

how are you? Done I Sent you sources what is your idea Simpleman8 (talk) —Comment without a date added on 11:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

The Categorisation Barnstar

		The Categorisation Barnstar
		For all of your work with the Olympic & Paralympic Games categories; thank you, Ferien! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 16:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Dream Indigo, thank you so much! It did take quite a lot of effort to get that done – and there's actually some more to go still! – so I really appreciate that :D --Ferien (talk) 16:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I am happy that you are happy! (❁´◡`❁) ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 17:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-35

The winner this Translation of the week is

en:Erzi (village)

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Erzi (Russian: Эрзи; Ingush: Аьрзи, romanized: Ärzi, lit. 'Eagle') is a medieval village (aul) in the Dzheyrakhsky District of Ingushetia. It is part of the rural settlement (administrative center) of Olgeti. The entire territory of the settlement is included in the Dzheyrakh-Assa State Historical-Architectural and Natural Museum-Reserve and is under state protection.

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Tech News: 2024-35

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

• Administrators can now test the temporary accounts feature on test2wiki. This was done to allow cross-wiki testing of temporary accounts, for when temporary accounts switch between projects. The feature was enabled on testwiki a few weeks ago. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Temporary Accounts is a project to create a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors which are no longer made public. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
• Later this week, editors at wikis that use FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed. This change makes the system more consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface. [9]

Bugs status

• Editors who use the 2010 wikitext editor, and use the Character Insert buttons, will no longer experience problems with the buttons adding content into the edit-summary instead of the edit-window. You can read more about that, and 26 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Project updates

• Please review and vote on Focus Areas, which are groups of wishes that share a problem. Focus Areas were created for the newly reopened Community Wishlist, which is now open year-round for submissions. The first batch of focus areas are specific to moderator workflows, around welcoming newcomers, minimizing repetitive tasks, and prioritizing tasks. Once volunteers have reviewed and voted on focus areas, the Foundation will then review and select focus areas for prioritization.
• Do you have a project and are willing to provide a three (3) month mentorship for an intern? Outreachy is a twice a year program for people to participate in a paid internship that will start in December 2024 and end in early March 2025, and they need mentors and projects to work on. Projects can be focused on coding or non-coding (design, documentation, translation, research). See the Outreachy page for more details, and a list of past projects since 2013.

Learn more

• If you're curious about the product and technology improvements made by the Wikimedia Foundation last year, read this recent highlights summary on Diff.
• To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
  • Community Configuration - Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together (55 mins) - about the Community Configuration project.
  • Future of MediaWiki. A sustainable platform to support a collaborative user base and billions of page views (30 mins) - an overview for both technical and non technical audiences, covering some of the challenges and open questions, related to the platform evolution, stewardship and developer experiences research.

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minnow

Plip!

whacking myself for this absolute disgrace of an edit. :P --Ferien (talk) 23:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Undeletion request (maybe?)

Hi! This category, Category:2011 Canadian television series endings, has 3 entries now. Should you undelete it, or should you just start it again? Sorry to bother you, but I saw you are active now and I am not sure what to do because of attribution and such. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 23:44, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Dream Indigo! Undeletion is probably easier in terms of restoring the past contents of the category, then you can adjust it if you think it should be. I do have flood on right now, but this message should appear in recent changes, so I'm not too bothered about potential decreased scrutiny for this action under flood. I'll do this now. --Ferien (talk) 23:55, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I am sorry for that, I didn't know you had the flood flag, I just saw you on recent changes. Thanks again! ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 00:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dream Indigo: No worries! For some reason applying the flood flag is a bit glitchy, as when you apply it that logged action is also hidden on recent changes, whereas removing it is not. --Ferien (talk) 00:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Categories

Can you delete all the empty categories I am creating while moving? Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 12:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Cactusisme, alright, I'll try to keep up with those! Just so you know, I just reversed your moves from 680 deaths to 680s deaths, as there are enough pages for both to exist. --Ferien (talk) 12:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 12:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ferien What are you planning to do with TBA phase 1 and 2? They have become backlogged again. Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Cactusisme, I think these should be fairly easy to handle. What I am going to do when I next get back on my laptop is setup a section on the WikiProject page to give attention to the old cleanup categories and keep them empty. --Ferien (talk) 08:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright, thanks Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 09:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ferien@Cactusisme: I just left a message on Cactus's talk page: the "<year> births" and "<year> deaths" categories are usually kept even if they have fewer than three entries. I've asked Cactus to revert the changes that were made for those. As for the categories that were deleted, either Cactus can recreate them or an admin can restore them (preferred). -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:02, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Auntof6, you're welcome to restore all the ones I deleted. If you prefer I can restore them tomorrow when I have access to my laptop again. --Ferien (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6 I was offline so I didn't see the messages. Can an admin restore them? I can really edit not. Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 22:13, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: I'm restoring them now. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: OK, I've restored all the "<year> births" and "<year> deaths" categories I saw that you emptied, plus the necessary year categories. When you move the articles back, let me know if you see any that I missed. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6  Done Moved the articles back Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 04:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: Thanks very much! Do you want to coordinate on any of this so you can do some, too? I pretty much have a handle on the rest of the establishment and disestablishment ones because I've configured some tools to handle them, but there are others that could be done. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure!! Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 04:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: Would you like to work on the events categories that I mentioned on User:Ferien/TBA/P3? I don't know if you understood what I had in mind, but I could give you an outline if that's something you want to do. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure, can you give an outline? Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 04:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: OK. I did 2004 as an example. Here's what I did.

• Created Category:2004 events
• Recategorized the "<month> 2004 events" categories under the new category.
• Deleted the "2004 events by month" category. We won't need the by-month categories any more. (I didn't just move it to the new name because that would mean having to deal with Wikidata.) You can't delete a category, of course, but you can just QD them under housekeeping with a note explaining what you're doing.
• Looked in Category:2004 for other events to put into the new category. I found one, which makes the 3-entry minimum, but there are probably others. Actually, though, we might be able to make the "<year> events" categories exceptions to the 3-entry rule if we need to. That can be discussed, but don't worry about it for now.
• The two existing "<month> 2004 events" categories that I put in the new category already had the minimum 3 entries. If they hadn't had enough, I could have either looked for more things to put into them, or moved their contents up to Category:2004 events and deleted them.

After there are enough "<year> events" categories, we can create a new "Events by year" category to hold them.

If you have any questions, please ask before you start. The categories that are already tagged as underpopulated can count toward the TBA project. After you finish those, you might want to look for others that are also underpopulated and take care of those as well. They might not count toward TBA, but they'll need to be done anyway. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

I assume all the crimes, disasters, elections, storms, and sports championships qualify as events, right? 2601:644:9083:5730:8DE9:1F37:3654:D555 (talk) 06:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6 Can I move Category:1920 disestablishments to Category:1920s disestablishments Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6 Can you check this move too, Category:1986 events by month Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: Did you see where I said, "I didn't just move it to the new name because that would mean having to deal with Wikidata."? Don't move the "<year> events by month" categories to the new "<year> events" names. They aren't categorized correctly for the new name, and they end up connected to a Wikidata item that they don't match. I'm going to move it back, and you can create the "<year> events" category as a new category. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:45, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Actually, no, I'll just fix what's there. But don't do any more of those moves. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, okay Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: Also, if a category like "April 1986 events" has three entries, don't empty the category. Only empty the "<month> <year> events" categories if they have fewer than 3 entries. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 07:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

"1920 disestablishments" is already under "1920s disestablishments". -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

okay Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 06:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6 Can you tell me which years to move? Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 04:27, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cactusisme: I don't understand what you mean. What years are you thinking might need moving? -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Auntof6 Never mind, sorry Cactus🌵 ^{spiky ouch} 04:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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