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'Alexa' in templatesEdit

Greetings all - I did not know how to go about this. On Template:Infobox website there is a parameter called alexa. It no longer works as of May 1, 2022 per It states in the template | alexa = {{Steady}} 6 ({{as of|2013|1|5|alt=January 2013}})<ref name="alexa">{{cite web|url= |title= Site Info | publisher= [[Alexa Internet]] |accessdate= 2013-1-5}}</ref><!--Updated monthly by OKBot.--> When previewing an edit, it shows it as an error so I stripped it out of the on page infobox (which btw Wikipedia is a mess and needs to be fixed and maybe autoconfirmed protected. Especially at the top as it links all over the place and I get a box that shows it is trying to be redirected to lol). If this were to be taken out of the template, would it cause any issues since we know the data is now stale and as time goes on it will become more and more stale? Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Not an admin here, but Alexa has retired since May 1 so my only suggestion is to see whether has anything archived. SHB2000 (talk) 01:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@SHB2000 The idea behind Alexa in the template is to get updated ranks for a website on a monthly website. Archives would not be beneficial here as this would be real-time updates at the end of the month that a bot would pull and update. It was a great idea though! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:14, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Simply remove it (and all of its uses) then. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh It doesn’t quite work like that especially when a bot is involved which is why I posted it here for an admin to take a look as they can see some things I don’t have permission to see. We can take it out of the article itself no issue. I’m talking about removing it from the template itself. Trust me I thought of that too but last time I tried that it broke something so I had to revert it back. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: I can't find any such parameter in the template. Are you sure that you have once tried to do so? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb, this was removed on enwiki back in Oct. 2020, and we have imported the template since then. This parameter simply doesn't exist anymore. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 01:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh@Fehufanga I’m not sure what you are looking at put I just pulled it up. It’s the 4th one up from the bottom on the template. I took it out of the article already. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: You mean the 4th last row of the table on Template:Infobox website/doc? I removed it from the documentation. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:57, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Well, it's only in the documentation, so there's no harm in removing it. As for the bot, it's long inactive. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 02:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh@Fehufanga ok if that works then it works. Auntof6 it is going to create a red category now because the articles with these infoboxes will now have something it won’t recognize. I don’t know the wording it will have but I’m sure you probably know it by heart since you deal a lot with them. Can we make that category so they can be worked on or would you prefer to do an AWB to find that parameter and remove it or do you have any other ideas on this? This was part of the reason I didn’t want to delete it first because of this reason. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: What red category are you talking about? I looked at an article that has the alexa parameter in it, and I don't see a red category on that article. The article does appear in Category:Pages using infobox website with unknown parameters, but that's an existing category. If that's the one you mean, I can work on it with AWB. Just let me know if this is even close to what you're talking about. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 So Alexa is no longer used so when it is in an article, it comes up as an unknown parameter. I think the entire red link thing was fixed as the cat it is going into in. This was 10 days ago lol :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb Done. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Why thank you! Much appreciated as always! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Page Protection - List of The Backyardigans episodesEdit

Can we get semi on this please? Every day IP editors come in and keep changing the dates of the seasons and basically and it is a slow edit war (my green light has not turned green yet to show an edit war). The sources have the correct dates, but the IPs want to change it to theirs. TThanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Kinda stale now, has been no edits in 11 days. Sorry this wasn't dealt with sooner. --Ferien (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien No worries. I believe I went and warned them about the NPOV. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Student Selection and Placement SystemEdit

Student Selection and Placement System (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Vandalism. Lallint (talk) 21:21, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

  • Really not enough vandalism to protect. We haven't even blocked anybody yet. Following the steps up to VIP would be the first course of action here. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 22:10, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Excessive citationsEdit

Continuing from the previous topic, there are a number of articles revolving around Persia, Armenia and Iranian peoples with an excess number of sources. Most of the time an excerpt from the source is given:

The users involved in adding these citations:

Previously, the article Iranian peoples ended up being protected for a week due to these changes. I feel like there's some sort of POV pushing going on here, as there's no reason to make over half of the article consist of sources. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 10:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Fehufanga I agree. This is a very tough one to fix too because they are using the same book but various pages but all the Harvs, etc. are broken. I wouldn’t mind just having them deleted as it is going to take a while to track down every single one of the articles and then search (if possible) to find what they are referring to so it can be fixed. I’ve only gotten about 1/4 of the way through Iranian peoples because these are not easy to track down as not all the sources are online. This basically is coming across to me as a flood of text, especially since a majority are IP users with no set location or country. :-( PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Okay, this edit summary just ridiculous: on Indo-European countries. This isn't even a good criterion for a list page. If the page gets deleted, here is the edit summary:
Iranian countries will NOT be added here just because you want them!!! STOP DELETING THIS PAGE!
It's clear from behaviour that this is indeed Araxes TheThief socking. Please block these users, the clean up is going to be a long one.

Reverse changesEdit

Hi admins, since you have the faster ability to do this with 78 changes (most are copied directly from enWP can you determine which ones of these are worth keeping. A lot of them and not most (I cleaned up a couple) are full of broken templates, links, invalid or they flat out over wrote the article we had with a direct copy. I got some in the beginning and marked as QD but I couldn’t keep up with them. The user is a block evasion and has finally been locked. Special:Contributions/Nawafuya I appreciate it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

TP protection againEdit

Please protect my TP again, but this time a week longer. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: No need: only one IP has been vandalizing it, and that IP has been blocked for a week. Let us know if more IPs start vandalizing it. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 It just came out of witness protection today (aka protection expiration). That is why they were able to start vandalizing my TP. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: I only see one block for the IP in the block log. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
I am referring to my TP, as that is the subject of this topic, not the IP. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:44, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 No worries (again we are human and you are not an AI) lol. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:04, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi for Pratik GauriEdit

Can we get semi on Pratik Gauri until the RfD is completed please? IPs keep removing the notice every couple of minutes. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Completed by Ferien for 24 hours (I pinged admins in chat). I did ask for it to be extended until end of RfD. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Watch neededEdit

Watch [[user:N1TH Music]], and see his record on En wiki. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

QD Ahmed TaziEdit

Even though the IP editor added a wait tag, this is again part of the entire paid editing for the ADANN something rather from yesterday for x-wikiabuse PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: This belongs on the article talk page, not here. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Please explain why it would go there? There is x-wiki abuse and paid editing as establish by stewards yesterday for the same article topic. Praxidicae was the admin who notified us about it. Talk:Association_for_the_defense_of_animals_and_nature this was also the page you asked me about at User_talk:PotsdamLamb/Archive_3#Question. This person in the article mentioned in the subject is also part of the paid editing and I did post a conversation for the wait tag and two IP addresses continued editing afterwords. This article is also a direct copy of which is declined by them. While Praxidicae was not quite nice in the way she spoke to me on the TP, she did mention "you'll note it's been repeatedly created by an xwiki locked LTA" I was not able to verify that but I also do know the IP is getting blocked every couple of days for x-wiki (I know how to check these now). That is why I posted here. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 This one goes with it as well that was recreated again today Association for the defense of animals and nature. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:25, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: The heading of this section (the section I'm leaving this post in) indicates that it is about the QD of the page. Discussion about that would go on the article talk page, as described by the text of the wait template. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 I understand. Thank you. It is just everything else involved which is why I posted it here. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:34, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

TP Protection NeededEdit

The IPs are back at it and wiping my TP again. Please extend to two weeks instead of one, as the moment the last one expired it was blanked. Thank you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:37, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  Done by Eptalon PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Page protection request for Pratik GauriEdit

Continued removal of the RfD tag by anonymous users. There are multiple IPs from different and wide ranges (one of them at least 39) removing this. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 13:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

  Done Protected by Eptalon. MathXplore (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Restore 1930 Women's World Games – triathlonEdit

I requested this deletion based on having a regular article about the 1930 Women's World Games which had information about it the triathlon. Since this was in error (on my part), can someone restore it back please? I do not feel it needs to go to deletion review because it was my error for nominating it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:52, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Macdonald-ross: any opinion on this as you were the deleting admin? --Ferien (talk) 19:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for restoring it @Macdonald-ross. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Please block (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) Sphere Matchers is a hoax article created by LTA LiliaMiller2002. None of the references listed in the article exists--Trade (talk) 00:24, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Trade: Although my edits are similar to this LTA, I'm not LiliaMiller2002 or anything like that. (talk) 07:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
@Trade: - This should be posted at WP:RFCU - So a checkuser can verify it. Thanks. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:56, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb and Trade: It probably shouldn't, because checkusers can't link IPs to accounts publicly. --Ferien (talk) 16:13, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien However, they can still check to see if they match. I do not think an admin has that ability. The rule states they cannot publicly comment on IPs. meta:CheckUser_policy#CheckUser_status Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Yep, they can't verify it publicly so what's the point? You may as well leave it to an admin who may block based on behaviour. --Ferien (talk) 18:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Bsadowski1 Block based on behavior? @Bsadowski1: --Trade (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Need an admin pleaseEdit

Hello Admins,

  1. We have a consensus on Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Again:_Change_the_languages_on_the_log_in_page to have the language links changed. We have asked numerous times to have an admin implement the changes, but no one has yet done that. Can someone take a look at this please?
  2. 2We also have a huge backlog of WP:RfD - I wish I could help on this but I do not have the permissions to do so.

Thank you in advance. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:14, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Please protectEdit

Talk:Rocky Marciano and Twinkie because GRP is here. EthanGaming7640 22:41, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Support - This guy doesn't know when to give guy, doesn't he? Kaseng55 (talk) 04:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Revision deletion requestEdit

Posting this here for an admin to handle User talk:Eptalon/Archive 22#Revision deletion request - [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] There are words that are offensive, harassment, incest and privacy violations. Can you hide these versions? (talk) 21:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC) Thanks Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

I have hidden all of them (usually as 'purely disruptive'). Note howeve: The sandbox is for tests, and gets cleaned automaticaaly; as to the other articles: They are sexual in nature, and wikipedia is not censored, so unless its a true privacy violation, there's generally no need for revdel. People who can't handle sexually explicit material shouldn't look at such pages... Eptalon (talk) 05:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but you forgot to hide the last 2 revisions. Even if it's a sandbox, I don't think it should be a gateway to vandalism and harassment. The person named there may be a real-life person and this is against wikipedia policies. @Eptalon: -- (talk) 12:36, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Request for protectionEdit

I would urge to mark a Extended Protection on Rishi Sunak and Prime Minister of United Kingdom as many times, it is been vandalised. An IP is making such changes. Request again for immediate protection on the articles ASAP. Jyoti Roy (talk) 16:51, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-Protection NeededEdit

List of colors Has seen a lot of vandalism on a daily basis all from an IPv6 address that changes daily. From what I can see this is the only page they keep vandalizing. Thank you. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Víctor Rodríguez AndradeEdit

There is an IP editor who repeats complex copy-pastes and POV pushing at this page. Can we have this page semi-protected ? MathXplore (talk) 10:23, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-Protection requestEdit

It looks like StoryBots has been the target of anonymous vandalism recently. Could this page be semi-protected? Daniuu (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Talk Page templatesEdit

@Ferien @Macdonald-ross You gentlemen just warned a user about adding tp templates and I noticed that an IP is doing the same thing: 2603:8080:A803:B13B:4507:A48E:CAA8:518F. Not sure if they are the same or if editing while logged out. I let the IPv6 know as well. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:14, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


Can 2030s be merged into 2030 please? Not sure why it would be set up like this as it doesn’t match the other years with the “s” on it. Thanks, Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Why would we merge them? One is for a decade. The other is for a year. They appear to have different, appropriate things on them. -- Auntof6 (talk) 05:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Please Block

The same IP editor, User:, has been blocked on English Wikipedia for repeated false edit around which cities have the greatest population in Alabama and South Carolina. They are making the same sorts of edits here. The user has been warned repeatedly on their talk page, but they continue to make counterfactual additions/edits to these pages. From their comments on their en-wiki talk page, it is evident they are not interested in making legitimate contributions to the wikis. Tcr25 (talk) 01:09, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Pouya sakiEdit

Hi Admins, just a heads up this page was recreated after a discussion at RFD to delete, (deleted many times too) listing this here so as to avoid mutiple times putting back the QD template, as the editor is removing the QD template. Thanks Tsugaru let's talk! :) 00:37, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@つがる I reverted it back and they didn’t remove it and even added the wait template and added a statement (which of course holds no water). Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 00:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Okay Thanks. I just didn't want to revert to get reverted in the article, As this happens sometimes with different situations. --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 01:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
@つがる No worries. Sometimes it happens then we just VIP when we get there. Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 03:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism on BackpackEdit

For the past few months, I have observed various IPs and accounts adding spam links to Backpack, and then immediately reverting. Is a CheckUser in order? Maybe the page should be semi-protected, that seems like the best option. I'll leave it to the admins! Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

@Hockeycatcat:, this LTA is en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/米記123 (the Chinese chracters are pronounced mee-jee). I've reported them here before. They jump across IPs in Hong Kong, CU is no use. Page protection is the best option. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 08:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
I protected the page for 6 months, to start off. Looking at the page history I do think it will eventually need an indefinite protection, but let's see how the trend develops after that. Chenzw  Talk  04:08, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

This IP had was involved a disinformation campaign on the Nutri Ventures article since 2019. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 04:00, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the fact check, but when removing things from articles, please do not forget to write your reasons in the edit summary. MathXplore (talk) 04:01, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Got it! I had to remove it as Craig McCracken is going to be very outraged if he sees this. It will hurt McCracken's reputation. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 04:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Template Bots DiscussionEdit

Can you please copy EN:Template:Bots to Template:Bots please so we have the updated information? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Since this template is used on the main page, I'd like other admins to weigh in. Would you make this request on the admins noticeboard? Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I just looked at it. It is just calling {{nobots}} so no bots can edit it. If you look at the source code, it is at the very bottom. So this import will not have an effect on it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:17, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: I did look at the source code. {{nobots}} is a redirect to {{bots}}, so it will have an effect, especially since our current version of the template has no functionality, and the version you want adds some. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
{{nobots}} and {{bots}} still have the same meaning. The {{nobots}} will still function as is always is. The reason being is all of those commands located in {{bots}} are built into the bot and when the bot sees it, the bot knows what to do as it is part of its coding language. If a bot is not exclusion compliant, then that is another issue but most bots are exclusion compliant. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
The only difference in EN's version of the template is that users who use {{bots}} to opt out of MassMessage, will be categorized into Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery. Are you intending to copy the template documentation instead? Template documentation is at the /doc subpage of the template. Chenzw  Talk  04:08, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Chenzw I had asked to have it copied over. The text is the only difference as far as I know but I believe @Auntof6 was thinking it would break something based on her comments. There is more than just that difference though too. It states what you cannot opt out of. We do not have that anywhere. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 04:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
I am afraid you are still unclear with the request. Template code and template documentation are on two different pages. Which page exactly do you want to be copied? Auntof6's concern would be if the template code is copied from EN. Chenzw  Talk  08:48, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Chenzw@Auntof6 The doc page will be fine. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:27, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
On our side: The {{Bots/doc}} was last changed on July 6, 2018, at 21:17. The actual template {{bots}} was last changed on January 25, 2018, at 08:56. So I do believe it is time for the update.
On enWP side: The bots template was last edited on September 21, 2021, at 16:45 and the doc was last edited on April 23, 2022, at 13:13.

I think maybe both need to come over because there is a few years difference between both. I am looking at both and I think copying over both will have zero effect on the current setup. If anything changed, it would be the examples at the bottom for the various programming languages.

For the actual template the only changes in effect (as others were reverted) are this diff and this diff.

For the doc: There were a lot of changes, as it appears a lot of vandalism occurred and was reverted. However, there are some valuable changes in it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Protection of Nutri VenturesEdit

An IP editor is repeating to remove RFD tag without authorization. I think this page needs protection. MathXplore (talk) 10:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@MathXplore: Blocked the IP instead, for 31 hours. Since it was just the one IP, it's better to block it than protect the page and keep even more people from editing. -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:51, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy delete on articlesEdit

Hello, the IP that did a lot of edits and redirects was blocked by BRP for 6 months for long-term abuse. A lot of the redirects and other items they put up are not valid and should not have to go to RfD which looks like that is what they did, despite there being no such thing. The article and redirects in question are located in these contributions. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:44, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid that none of the redirects are eligible for QD, as R1, R2 and R3 do not apply here, and these will have to go through the RfD process. You may wish to nominate many of the redirects in one RfD to save some time. --Ferien (talk) 18:48, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien I wasn't saying under any R; they would be more A6 because as soon as I tag them, they lose the redirect. None of the redirects are indeed factual, as proven in other RfDs for these National social mammal of Bangladesh and National social mammal of Pakistan. I can see them in various ways:
  1. Making bad pages
  2. Editing tests
  3. Deliberately adding wrong information
  4. Housekeeping

Since WP:RfD is already backlogged, the quickest way is to be bold and delete the pages and not have to send them to another board for a 7 day discussion where a discussion is not needed for extremely obvious reasons. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
They are not eligible for A6, as redirects are not articles. They do not count as an article simply because the redirect disables due to a QD being placed above the redirect. G2 is for pages that are clearly tests, and the creator of the redirect clearly knew what they were doing as they created a redirect successfully. We have no sign that that was supposed to be a test. G6 is for extremely uncontroversial requests, like moving pages and merging histories. While at a push, you could maybe delete these redirects for G3 as vandalism, even that is not necessary. The worst that can happen with a redirect if it's sent to RfD is it gets no page views in a week, because redirects are not very visible here. Requests for deletion currently only has 19 requests – note, we hit well over 100 earlier this year – and the oldest current deletion request is due to be closed today. I do not consider that to be a backlog. You may wish to get comments from another administrator, but we are in no rush to delete pages, and therefore I recommend that the redirects are sent to RfD. --Ferien (talk) 19:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Ok then have at it. I am not going to send them to RfD due to a previous discussion where we tag and and admin makes the decision to qd it or move to RfD. The list is under the contribution history. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Ferien Not trying to be rude, just so you understand, I am looking at it practical. Why should we both waste time (me tag with QD, then you waste time to decline them all, then you spend more time moving them to RfD). It is just simpler for you to do it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 19:27, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

IPs constantly editing CartoonitoEdit

It's this page: List of programs broadcast by Cartoonito

Restrict it to registered users, maybe. Can someone maybe block them as well? Just wondering, because they really cannot give up. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 06:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Might need to block User:TV Show News Man as well, says "they're trying to be a good user" but blanks pages for no reason. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 06:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Chenzw Hey, you active? I don't really wanna revert the page right now until it's protected. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 04:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Do not block me. And please leave the page alone. TV Show News Man (talk) 10:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Nobody owns any page on Wikipedia, and any editor is free to edit it, unless some sort of restriction or sanction (such as a topic ban or partial block) was placed on the editor. Conflicts and disputes should be taken to the article's talk page. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 10:45, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Per WP:PROVEIT, the burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Whoever adds content to an article needs to provide evidence via a reliable source, if the added content is challenged. Also, @TV Show News Man: you are warned to stop blanking/removing other people's messages on discussion pages. Chenzw  Talk  14:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Can you check the edit history of the page, too? I haven't been editing on here for good reason. Some anonymous even tried to claim Bob the Builder: Fantastic Buildings was real, that Foster was rebooted and will air on Cartoonito and that Naked Mole Rat airs there... all without a source.
Some Type Like This, too. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 05:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Dude, you were the same guy that blanked the talk page for no reason. Also, blanking articles for no reason is unreasonable behavior. I also have to redo the page for the sake of it being consistent with English Wikipedia, but due to random anonymous contributors claiming otherwise, including uncited additions, I had to warn people about it. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 13:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Sorry to sound hostile, but if you can't explain yourself, then you don't need to. Plus, doing things that are against the rules without explaining is just weird. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 13:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Regarding this, it seems that a couple of unregistered users have been removing comments from the talkpage of List of programs broadcast by Cartoonito and on this noticeboard. It appears that they're jumping IPs on proxies. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 11:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
This guy is disabled now. And also, Bob the Builder: Fantastic Buildings is going to happen for real and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends reboot is coming to Cartoonito. (talk) 23:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
No personal attacks. Feohfang (talk) 23:36, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Yeah. Listen to him. 2601:C2:4100:46E0:49E1:A52F:F1C0:8894 (talk) 03:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Can any of you unprotect the page please? I might need to fix something there. Pablo Dexy (talk) 17:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Not possible right now. DRC (User:TTP1233) (talk . e-mail . contrib) 18:09, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Templates in user spaceEdit

Just out of curiosity what is the policy on an editor having a template in their user space and calling it to articles? Shouldn't all templates be in the template space? Granted, this one is not linked outside the userspace, except in a 2020 RfD. They are User:Drbogdan/WikipediaOverview, User:Drbogdan/ScienceFacts, and User:Drbogdan/ScienceNews. Thanks. The 2020 RfD is at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/Template:ScienceNews and others linked to each individual one. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: I can't find a specific policy, but it is a bad practice to use a userspace template in an article, or even anywhere outside userspace.
As far as all templates being in templatespace, the answer is no, because there are templates that are supposed to be in userspace. These include some userboxes and WikiProject templates. Of course, those are not used in articles, categories, etc. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 So basically if they are used in article, they should be in the template space so anyone can update it, otherwise, the editor violates the not touching user space pages. I understand about the userboxen and such. I was specifically talking about templates that give value to the article(s) they may be used on. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: Well, we don't have a policy or guideline that I can find that says should, even on enwiki, but IMO that is the best way to manage them. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 So to run a scenario by you. Someone creates a template that has to be updated every 2 months and it is linked to 40 articles. They end up getting perm blocked, but the template is in their user space. Would it be easier to ask an admin to move it to the template name space, or should we have an RfC and consensus to make it a policy that any templates that are linked to an article need to be in the template namespace? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: That's two different things: what to do if such a template exists, and whether we should have a policy. The first is hypothetical and you list a lot of variables, so I'm just going to address the second. I think it would be good to have a policy or guideline about that, but of course it would have to be proposed and discussed. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6 As far as the first one, I do see people make templates (and they mostly put them in the template name space) but some put them in the their user space without a cat. So I think getting a a policy (preferred) or guideline would work and have it recursive (which means any found would need to go into the template namespace so they can be updated by anyone, given the fact wikipedia can be edited by anyone. I can work on the proposal and see what others think. I am just forward looking. I will put it here for you and other admins to help re-write it before putting it up for discussion on st. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: OK. I think you mean retroactive, not recursive. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:18, 2 August 2022 (UTC)


{{Bibleverse}} seems to be broken, and it is used on 105 pages. Can someone who understands templates better try to fix it? Lights and freedom (talk) 03:27, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Lights and freedom: Can you point directly to an example of where it's broken? -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6: On Moses#Criticism. Click the link on Numbers 31:13-18. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:39, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6: I think it's because it's not specifying the Bible version. Because the search at works if you specify one, but otherwise it just gives an array full of numbers. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@Lights and freedom: I think I fixed it. I imported the current version of the template from enwiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:49, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@Auntof6: It does work now. Thank you! Lights and freedom (talk) 03:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
  -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Changing languages on login pageEdit

Can an admin please act on the language discussion at Simple Talk? The voting is over, now an admin can decide which change to be made. Lights and freedom (talk) 18:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


Would an admin mind taking a look at the activity on this range? It has a history of being blocked due to long-term abuse, and it seems that the contributions that caused the blocks, (see also logs: [9], [10], [11]) have resumed. FWIW, this range is also blocked on enwiki. Feohfang (talk) 00:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Protection request on pages for networks, cartoons and anime?Edit

Hey, so uhh, maybe we need better protection on articles regarding animated series, especially towards lesser known + not-so-popular cartoons. Maybe networks too. I originally came to Simple English because some rando claimed Oggy and the Cockroaches had a Canadian voice cast, was a comedy-action series and was composed by Tommy Sica.

Especially considering some contributors go all "Stop It Leave it Alone This Show Clearly Aired on Cartoonito" and "Bob the Builder: Fantastic Buildings will be real." without a citation. (The reboot is clearly in the WP:MADEUP category, too.) WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 05:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Chenzw Might need to protect some pages like Oggy too, my edits keep getting reverted by randos. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 08:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
@Hockeycatcat Hello? I'm taking a break here because the random, anonymous contributors tire me out. I'm not risking constant fanon reversion if it means they'll do it again, either without a summary or saying something like "Leave It Alone", "Good", or "this will be real". WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 10:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
WannurSyafiqah74, no worries, enjoy your break! I will keep my eye on pages like that and I'll do my best to revert inaccuracies. Hope to see you again soon! Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 13:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't hate being here, but I'm just confused by how people suddenly interpret this more than regular Wikipedia as "something they can insert fanon into". Especially when it's not a wildly popular show. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 14:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
WannurSyafiqah74, I understand what you mean. It is unfortunate that people choose to do that and don't recognise that Wikipedia isn't the place for fanon. There are other platforms for those things; we know this! Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 14:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
The best we can do is block anyone for constantly inserting these back in. Prorect anything that needs it, too. I just made the thread to see if everything that wasn't popular would need it, mainly semiprotection. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 14:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
WannurSyafiqah74 We must remember that semi-protection is only necessary when the page is actively being vandalised. If a page hasn't been touched, it's best not to protect it. Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 14:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
I see. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 14:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Requesting semi-protection of NumberjacksEdit

Numberjacks (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent Disruptive Editing. IP disruption Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 11:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  Done for 1 month -- Enfcer (talk) 23:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Oddly enough, it also seemed to be a nasty case of fanon. Contributors somehow think making it a Xilam show is better, for whatever reason. The creator of one of its longest running franchises + Space Goofs couldn't have been alive. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Soufia TaloniEdit

I think the deletion reason needs to be corrected. The reason was Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Soufia Taloni, but I think the right reason is Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Soufia Taloni (2nd nomination). MathXplore (talk) 06:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@MathXplore: You're right. I'll fix it. You could have just told the closing admin about it. ;) -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:05, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Requesting semi-protection for the creation of NickRewind Jr.Edit

NickRewind Jr. (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

Temporary semi-protection: Hoax (not true); recreation of content previously deleted at RfD. Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 14:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

  Not done Shouldn't be necessary now the /64 range that has created the page most times has been blocked. --Ferien (talk) 14:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Deletion policy changeEdit

Hello. Could an uninvolved admin close Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#Spam on user pages please? Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 09:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)