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Delete?
Special:UnusedCategories Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I mean all the pages in it. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry Cactusisme, I thought I responded to this message. C1 states that we must only delete categories where there have not been enough entries for 4 days, so I don't think all those categories should have been automatically deleted, at the time – I think all of them have been empty for at least 4 days though now? --Ferien (talk) 16:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Cactusisme: You don't usually have to worry about these. There are enough admins (2 that I know of) who watch the unused categories and take care of them when it's time. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Who? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 01:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme: Does it matter? -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 For more info Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 02:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme: More info to do what with? I will tell you that I'm one of them, but I don't have permission to say what anybody else is doing. If they see this, they can choose whether they want to tell you. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Oh, alright Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 03:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme: More info to do what with? I will tell you that I'm one of them, but I don't have permission to say what anybody else is doing. If they see this, they can choose whether they want to tell you. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 For more info Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 02:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme: Does it matter? -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Who? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 01:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-36
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Editors and volunteer developers interested in data visualisation can now test the new software for charts. Its early version is available on beta Commons and beta Wikipedia. This is an important milestone before making charts available on regular wikis. You can read more about this project update and help to test the charts.
Feature news
- Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word
__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [1] - Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [2]
- Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.
Project updates
- A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.
Learn more
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Charts, the successor of Graphs - A secure and extensible tool for data visualization (25 mins) – about the above-mentioned Charts project.
- State of Language Technology and Onboarding at Wikimedia (90 mins) – about some of the language tools that support Wikimedia sites, such as Content/Section Translation, MinT, and LanguageConverter; also the current state and future of languages onboarding. [3]
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Hello, a user who previously received your feedback does not seem to be following your words. Please see User talk:204.184.47.241 for their latest behavior. You may want to provide additional feedback or consider WP:ONESTRIKE (the user's enwiki block reason is related to troll, but I have no plan of local action due to previous direct interaction). I look forward to hearing from you. MathXplore (talk) 02:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks MathXplore, I think Fehufanga addressed the situation well on AN. --Ferien (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-37
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The Cappadocian calendar was a solar calendar that was derived from the Persian Zoroastrian calendar. It is named after the historic region Cappadocia in present-day Turkey, where it was used. The calendar, which had 12 months of 30 days each and five epagomenal days, originated between 550 and 330 BC, when Cappadocia was part of the Persian Achaemenid Empire. The Cappadocian calendar was identical to the Zoroastrian calendar; this can be seen in its structure, in the Avestan names and in the order of the months. The Cappadocian calendar reflects the Iranian cultural influence in the region.
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Tech News: 2024-37
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [4][5]
- Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions
entity:getSitelink()andmw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid)will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [6]
Project updates
- Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [7]
- Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new
MOSnamespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning withMOS:(usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language codemos). [8]
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Hello Ferien, I hope you're doing well. I have taken the deletion review route. Your feedback is appreciated. Thanks for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 09:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi C1K98V, I've offered a response to the deletion review request. --Ferien (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Editor experience invitation
Hi :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 09:30, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Done, hope it's not too long-winded :P --Ferien (talk) 19:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
current requests for permissions
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Koavf is stil in Category:Current requests for permissions, but Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Fr33kman 2 is not. Batrachoseps (talk) 19:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Batrachoseps, thanks for notifying me! I had forgot to remove the {{in progress}} template on Koavf's RfA, while Fr33kman's bureaucratship request had not been setup with the {{in progress}} template so it had not appeared in that category until now. --Ferien (talk) 19:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- My bad! It's been a while since I setup a nonRfA request. fr33kman 19:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, all sorted now! --Ferien (talk) 19:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- My bad! It's been a while since I setup a nonRfA request. fr33kman 19:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-38
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Improvements and Maintenance
Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.- The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [9]
- References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [10]
- It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [11]
Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.- Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes
mw-message-boxneed to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newercdx-messagegroup of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [12]
Technical project updates
- Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [13]
Tech in depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.
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Question
Do you think the things I did in the discussions about Cyber.Eyes.2005 (throwing accusations and such) would make administrators (like you) deny me rights? (I have apologized for my mistakes and promise never to act like I did again.) 🪐●Haumeon●🪐 20:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon: I wouldn't think so. You recognised your mistakes and apologised for your actions. Of course, use your best judgement – we all make mistakes, but applying for rights, say a day or a few days after probably isn't the best idea. --Ferien (talk) 20:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm barely over a month old anyway. Just wondering, is a month and a half too early for rollback? 🪐●Haumeon●🪐 20:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon: When reviewing rollback requests, I am looking for a candidate who has reverted a lot of vandalism with a high accuracy rate. In other words, I am looking at the amount you've needed to revert and whether those reverts were good, because we don't want rollback to be used on good-faith edits. BRPever said on your request he would like to see at least two months, and I would agree that's a good benchmark, but I wouldn't focus on the time you've spent editing too much. --Ferien (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will work on reverting more vandalism and with more accuracy. 🪐●Haumeon●🪐 20:54, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon: When reviewing rollback requests, I am looking for a candidate who has reverted a lot of vandalism with a high accuracy rate. In other words, I am looking at the amount you've needed to revert and whether those reverts were good, because we don't want rollback to be used on good-faith edits. BRPever said on your request he would like to see at least two months, and I would agree that's a good benchmark, but I wouldn't focus on the time you've spent editing too much. --Ferien (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm barely over a month old anyway. Just wondering, is a month and a half too early for rollback? 🪐●Haumeon●🪐 20:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Yaay!!!
Hey Ferien, I got the new right on main wiki [14]. Xegma(talk) 04:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Xegma, congrats! :) --Ferien (talk) 06:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Deleting my historical edits ΣΥΡΙΖΑ81.248.177.61
https://el.vikidia.org/wiki/%CE%A3%CE%A5%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%96%CE%91 2A01:CB20:40D1:4600:D51B:4C75:3DE5:DD4E (talk) 20:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Ask someone to delete historical edits there are smileys everywhere
Nobody does good anything on Greek Vikidia thanks 2A01:CB20:40D1:4600:D51B:4C75:3DE5:DD4E (talk) 20:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello, you closed the RFD as delete, but the page is not deleted. MathXplore (talk) 23:08, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- MathXplore, apologies, I have no idea how that happened - or I guess, didn't happen! Thanks for letting me know. --Ferien (talk) 23:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-39
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Independence Day (Albanian: Dita e Pavarësisë) is a public holiday in Albania observed on 28 November. It commemorates the Albanian Declaration of Independence (from the Ottoman Empire), which was ratified by the All-Albanian Congress on 28 November 1912, establishing the state of Albania.
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Interface admin action request based on Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_policy#Proposed_change_to_option_T2 (Special:Diff/9765613)
Hello, due to the recent consensus to change QD T2, I'm requesting interface admin action to reflect the consensus to the Twinkle interface. Currently, Twinkle explains QD T2 as They are deprecated or replaced by a newer template and are completely unused and not linked to.
, but due to the recent consensus, this has to be changed to They are deprecated or replaced by a newer template or module and are completely unused and not linked to.
. Please note that "or module" is added. I have reflected the consensus in WP:TQD, and all we need is the update to the Twinkle interface. I look forward to hearing from you. MathXplore (talk) 06:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done --Ferien (talk) 06:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-39
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
- The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
- It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within
<syntaxhighlight>tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax{{…}}are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [15] - Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [16][17]
- View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.
In depth
- The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.
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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2024-40
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The wildlife of the archipelago of Bahrain, is more varied than might be expected of this small group of islands in the Persian Gulf. Apart from a strip of the north and west of the main island, where crops are grown with irrigation, the land is arid. With a very hot dry summer, a mild winter, and brackish groundwater, the plants need adaptations in order to survive. Nevertheless, 196 species of higher plant have been recorded here, as well as about seventeen species of terrestrial mammals, many birds and reptiles, and many migratory birds visit the islands in autumn and spring.
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Tech News: 2024-40
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Readers of 42 more wikis can now use Dark Mode. If the option is not yet available for logged-out users of your wiki, this is likely because many templates do not yet display well in Dark Mode. Please use the night-mode-checker tool if you are interested in helping to reduce the number of issues. The recommendations page provides guidance on this. Dark Mode is enabled on additional wikis once per month.
- Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor as their default can access features from the 2017 wikitext editor by adding
?veaction=editsourceto the URL. If you would like to enable the 2017 wikitext editor as your default, it can be set in your preferences. [18] - For logged-out readers using the Vector 2022 skin, the "donate" link has been moved from a collapsible menu next to the content area into a more prominent top menu, next to "Create an account". This restores the link to the level of prominence it had in the Vector 2010 skin. Learn more about the changes related to donor experiences. [19]
- The CampaignEvents extension provides tools for organizers to more easily manage events, communicate with participants, and promote their events on the wikis. The extension has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Swahili Wikipedia, and Meta-Wiki. Chinese Wikipedia has decided to enable the extension, and discussions on the extension are in progress on Spanish Wikipedia and on Wikidata. To learn how to enable the extension on your wiki, you can visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-Wiki.
- View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- Developers with an account on Wikitech-wiki should check if any action is required for their accounts. The wiki is being changed to use the single-user-login (SUL) system, and other configuration changes. This change will help reduce the overall complexity for the weekly software updates across all our wikis.
In depth
- The server switch was completed successfully last week with a read-only time of only 2 minutes 46 seconds. This periodic process makes sure that engineers can switch data centers and keep all of the wikis available for readers, even if there are major technical issues. It also gives engineers a chance to do maintenance and upgrades on systems that normally run 24 hours a day, and often helps to reveal weaknesses in the infrastructure. The process involves dozens of software services and hundreds of hardware servers, and requires multiple teams working together. Work over the past few years has reduced the time from 17 minutes down to 2–3 minutes. [20]
Meetings and events
- October 4–6: WikiIndaba Conference's Hackathon in Johannesburg, South Africa
- November 4–6: MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 in Vienna, Austria
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