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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-44
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Please be bold and help translate this article!  Islamic ornament is the use of decorative patterns in Islamic art. They can be broadly divided into the arabesque, using curving plant-based elements, geometric patterns with straight lines or regular curves, and calligraphy, consisting of religious texts with stylised appearance, used both decoratively and to convey meaning. All three often involve elaborate interlacing. The three types of ornament are often used together. Islamic decoration has had a significant influence on European decorative artforms, especially as Western arabesque. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Recent changes
- There is a limit on the amount of emails a user can send each day. This limit is now global instead of per-wiki. This change is to prevent abuse. [1]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 November. It will be on all wikis from 4 November (calendar).
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20:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Translation no. 40 of 2021
I saw both of us haven't received the translation no. 40 of the year 2021. Do you have any idea about this? Haoreima (talk) 06:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Omg, no. 38 also. Haoreima (talk) 07:09, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Haoreima, the translations are given by MassMessage. I think the reason why those translations didn't arrive was most likely because someone forgot to give out the MassMessage. You can always see the current translation of the week on meta: m:TOTW. --Ferien (talk) 07:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Was wondering the same too although don't translate things into French anymore. SHB2000 (talk) 07:18, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Haoreima, the translations are given by MassMessage. I think the reason why those translations didn't arrive was most likely because someone forgot to give out the MassMessage. You can always see the current translation of the week on meta: m:TOTW. --Ferien (talk) 07:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I never missed for Manipuri/Meitei language. And even if I missed, I do that later but surely. Haoreima (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- The thing with my French though, is I'm only a language learner, and I'd usually prefer to leave the translation to someone who is a much better French speaker than I am. OTOH, I do translate things from espangol to English on WikiSP. SHB2000 (talk) 06:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I too love Romance languages! Sounds romantic! Me too a birdie at Francais and Espanol, at fr Quora and es Quora currently, and later I will soon go to fr wiki and es wiki after I have sound knowledge! :) :-) Haoreima (talk) 09:30, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima (I'd exercise caution when going to frwiki. They once blocked a contributor once before (KevRobbAU), for making a grammatical mistake hence why I don't edit there. But eswiki doesn't have this issue but I much prefer editing frwikivoyage though) SHB2000 (talk) 10:09, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Thanks for the precaution! I think I must not go there until I have good grammatical knowledge. But blocking for grammatical mistake is too much. :) :-) French language is known for her beauty in literature, grammar, vocabulary and many more, throughout the entire Europe. We should respect all her beauties. :) Haoreima (talk) 11:58, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- However, on the other hand, eswiki does not have any sort of issue and they're more than likely to help you (at least, that was my experience on eswikivoyage, although the editors there also edit eswiki.) SHB2000 (talk) 09:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: Thanks for the precaution! I think I must not go there until I have good grammatical knowledge. But blocking for grammatical mistake is too much. :) :-) French language is known for her beauty in literature, grammar, vocabulary and many more, throughout the entire Europe. We should respect all her beauties. :) Haoreima (talk) 11:58, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima (I'd exercise caution when going to frwiki. They once blocked a contributor once before (KevRobbAU), for making a grammatical mistake hence why I don't edit there. But eswiki doesn't have this issue but I much prefer editing frwikivoyage though) SHB2000 (talk) 10:09, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Oh yes, I too love Romance languages! Sounds romantic! Me too a birdie at Francais and Espanol, at fr Quora and es Quora currently, and later I will soon go to fr wiki and es wiki after I have sound knowledge! :) :-) Haoreima (talk) 09:30, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- The thing with my French though, is I'm only a language learner, and I'd usually prefer to leave the translation to someone who is a much better French speaker than I am. OTOH, I do translate things from espangol to English on WikiSP. SHB2000 (talk) 06:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I never missed for Manipuri/Meitei language. And even if I missed, I do that later but surely. Haoreima (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Old English
Could you tell me what is the good way to learn Old English, Anglo-Saxon, Anglish & Middle English? I want to learn them. :) Haoreima (talk) 02:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) there is an old English Wikipedia --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:50, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: There is The Old English Wikipedia, but there's no Middle English Wikipedia since ancient language Wikipedia's aren't eligible for new wikis. But you can certainly find them at Wikisource which has old English texts in it (you can also start a Meitei Wikisource since there's currently no Meitei/Manipuri Wikisource). SHB2000 (talk) 06:39, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SHB2000 and つがる: Thanks for your valuable information! Dudes! :) BTW, what I want is not Wikipedia. My goal is to become an editor there at "ang wiki" but first, I need to learn the language. So, I want an old English learning site. And it's really surprising that Old English wikipedia (ang.wikipedia) exist and Middle English Incubator (enm incubator) isn't given a place for wikipedia status. And thank you SHB2000 for informing me about Wikisource! In fact, most of the Manipuri/Meitei language resources are stored in Bengali script since 18th century AD (300 long years). Everything written before 18th century AD were in Meitei script. And this 21st century AD is the only recent time for revivalism of Meitei script usage for Meitei language. That's why there's little modern time resources in Meitei script, and more abundantly in Bengali script. Well, I have collected a series of Manipuri books from the archive.org, written in Meitei script (for I choose them exclusively, not to include Bengali script written ones, though I can read both scripts and speak even Bangla). But I have a plan. It's that until Meitei wikipedia reaches 10,000+ articles, I will not start any other wiki project for Meitei. And currently, Meitei wikipedia is soon to reach 7k articles. And I hope my wish gets fulfilled before the February of the next year! Regards! :) Haoreima (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: There is The Old English Wikipedia, but there's no Middle English Wikipedia since ancient language Wikipedia's aren't eligible for new wikis. But you can certainly find them at Wikisource which has old English texts in it (you can also start a Meitei Wikisource since there's currently no Meitei/Manipuri Wikisource). SHB2000 (talk) 06:39, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know Old English or Middle English or any old form of English, so I wouldn't be able to help you with that. Sorry. --Ferien (talk) 19:23, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @つがる, SHB2000, and Ferien: Guys! Guys! Guys! I am very happy to tell you that Meitei Wikipedia, the only Indian wikipedia from Sino-Tibetan family, has now achieved a milestone, within a year of HER birth (February, 2021- November, 2021)! Now, HER content crossed 10,000 articles! :) Just happy to inform you! Haoreima (talk) 14:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Congratulations Haoreima for the achievement :). Do hope it reaches 20k soon. SHB2000 (talk) 20:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Haoreima, congratulations and thanks for all the work you do here and on mniwiki :) --Ferien (talk) 20:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- That's cool! Great work ;) --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 20:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- @つがる, SHB2000, and Ferien: Guys! Guys! Guys! I am very happy to tell you that Meitei Wikipedia, the only Indian wikipedia from Sino-Tibetan family, has now achieved a milestone, within a year of HER birth (February, 2021- November, 2021)! Now, HER content crossed 10,000 articles! :) Just happy to inform you! Haoreima (talk) 14:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Wrongful deletion of a Wikipedia page
Hello Ferien... I would like to get to your notice of a genuine and legitimate Wikipedia page that was wrongly nominated for deletion out of bias & malicious intents by some editors and some people. The name of the wrongly deleted Wikipedia page is "ERICA NLEWEDIM". A well known and popularly recognized Nigerian Actress, model and entrepreneur... The name of one of those who wrongfully nominated her page for deletion is "Aranya". Please her fans are bothered and would want the page of their celebrity to be rightfully restored and protected from future nominations or tempering. Thank you! SmartKev1 (talk) 12:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- SmartKev1, there was a consensus that Erica Nlewedim was not notable at requests for deletion, see Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2021/Erica Nlewedim, thats why I deleted the page. Please assume good faith about other editors, they are probably all trying to help. --Ferien (talk) 16:05, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. And thank you other editors. We await the restoration of the page. SmartKev1 (talk) 13:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- SmartKev1, the page probably won't be restored in the near future because there was a consensus to delete at RfD. --Ferien (talk) 13:22, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you - I've been registered here for a million years but only really started editing properly quite recently. I've been looking up as many of the "most common misspellings" as possible and editing them accordingly. Bobo. 23:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
David Fefolt page
Deleting that was a mistake. AugustusM (talk) 21:34, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Any reason why? I could see there was much more of a consensus to delete it than to keep. --Ferien (talk) 21:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
He's been in the music industry for 40+ years, is known globally, had recording contracts with Polodor, Enigma, Metal Blade, and more, was in bands with David Ellefson, Jorg Fischer, Matt Sorum, Kenny Earl, etc..., toured with Joe Satriani, Nazareth, Triumph, Hurricane, etc..., had a Mtv video in heavy rotation... AugustusM (talk) 21:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
What was the "consensus" based on, if I may ask? AugustusM (talk) 22:00, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- There were more policy based arguments to delete than to keep. --Ferien (talk) 22:02, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
What would need to be added to make it right? AugustusM (talk) 22:07, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Nothing against you, but I think it's wrong that pages are deleted instead of contacting the creator and saying what needs to be fixed and give a time limit. AugustusM (talk) 22:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- AugustusM, that is exactly what was done, as you can see here and notability, the issue mentioned on the RfD page, is not really an issue you can fix. You need to show that they are notable with reliable sources like I mentioned above, you can't really make someone notable. --Ferien (talk) 22:16, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't the page creator so I thank you for sharing this and taking the time to respond to my concerns. AugustusM (talk) 22:32, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-45
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Please be bold and help translate this article!  The Southern Crab Nebula (or WRAY-16-47 or Hen 2-104) is a nebula in the constellation Centaurus. The nebula is several thousand light years from Earth, and its central star is a symbiotic Mira variable - white dwarf pair. It is named for its resemblance to the Crab Nebula, which is in the northern sky. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Mobile IP editors are now able to receive warning notices indicating they have a talk page message on the mobile website (similar to the orange banners available on desktop). These notices will be displayed on every page outside of the main namespace and every time the user attempts to edit. The notice on desktop now has a slightly different colour. [2][3]
Changes later this week
- Wikidata will be read-only for a few minutes on 11 November. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [4]
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- In the future, unregistered editors will be given an identity that is not their IP address. This is for legal reasons. A new user right will let editors who need to know the IPs of unregistered accounts to fight vandalism, spam, and harassment, see the IP. You can read the suggestions for how that identity could work and discuss on the talk page.
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20:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Category existence
I don't think admins delete categories just because it has less than 3 pages under content, for example en:Category:Sports deities. Haoreima (talk) 01:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Is it true? Haoreima (talk) 03:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Haoreima, on Wikipedia:Categories, you can see
There should be a minimum of three articles that would fit into the category before a new category is created.
so we do have a guideline that you should have three pages in a category and sometimes admins delete categories that have less than 3 pages. I don't think they have a similar guideline on enwiki. --Ferien (talk) 07:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)- Thanks. If the rules were similar, it deserves RFD. Lol:) :-) Haoreima (talk) 07:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Haoreima, on Wikipedia:Categories, you can see
AFD backlog
Hi Ferien,
Currently, WP:AFD has a backlog of requests that have yet to be decided upon. All requests from Wikipedia:Requests for deletion#Dividing fractions have expired but have not been closed.
Is it possible for you to clear said requests?
Thank you, 209.232.149.23 (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will deal with those requests now. Thank you. --Ferien (talk) 17:14, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
hello @Ferien according to the discussions the outcome for the article shouldn't be delete, it's a waste to loss articles like that. 
Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 21:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Sakura emad. I did check through the RfD and as you saw, I did decide to delete.
- Whilst there were two keep !votes, one only gave one source and BRP said that there wasn't significant coverage, which I couldn't find either.
- The other keep vote focused more on the claims and your comment focused more on improving the article but reliable sources were not added when I closed the RfD.
- Of course, the article can always be recreated if there is enough significant coverage in reliable sources.
- Thanks
- --Ferien (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- fair enough thanks. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Re: Warning
Dear Ferien,
I don't think it makes much sense to warn these kind of vandals. As far as I know, they have also been warned by the abusefilter when attempting to save their edit and are therefore well aware that they shouldn't be doing this. As I'm monitoring the recent changes of all small wikis, warning them manually would also consume quite valuable time. Savh Talk 21:52, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- I understand with the monitoring small wikis part, I am a relatively SWMT member myself, but if vandalism reoccurs, warning really can help, even if they were warned by the abuse filter. Sometimes, seeing a warning from a person that your edits have been reverted can discourage you from vandalising. It's not mandatory by any means, but it is preferable, so if you do have the time and someone is vandalising again and again, please warn them.
Thank you, --Ferien (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-46
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Please be bold and help translate this article!  The Netto Question (Portuguese: Questão Netto) was the largest collective action for the liberation of slaves in the Americas. The lawsuit is related to the liberation of 217 slaves in Brazilian lands in the 1870s. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Most large file uploads errors that had messages like "
stashfailed" or "DBQueryError" have now been fixed. An incident report is available.
Problems
- Sometimes, edits made on iOS using the visual editor save groups of numbers as telephone number links, because of a feature in the operating system. This problem is under investigation. [5]
- There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of a configuration error. [6]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 November. It will be on all wikis from 18 November (calendar).
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22:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
WLWSA-2021 Newsletter #6 (Request to provide information)
Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021
September 1 - September 30, 2021
view details!
If you have any questions, feel free to reach out the organizing team via emailing @here or discuss on the Meta-wiki talk page
Regards,
Wiki Loves Women Team
07:22, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Hirok Raja. May I ask what the full name would be used for? Regards, --Ferien (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien Your legal name should be given here. But you can use any other name if you want.
- However, the certificate will be issued on the full name provided by you. Hirok Raja (talk) 16:41, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hirok Raja, thank you for clearing that up. And the certificate is given to me privately, correct? --Ferien (talk) 19:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it will be given to you privately. None of your information will be shared with anyone else. Hirok Raja (talk) 05:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining further to me. --Ferien (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it will be given to you privately. None of your information will be shared with anyone else. Hirok Raja (talk) 05:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hirok Raja, thank you for clearing that up. And the certificate is given to me privately, correct? --Ferien (talk) 19:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Please stop being mean
STOP BEING MEAN! NEVER BLOCK ME! — Preceding unsigned comment added by I LOVE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES (talk • contribs) 21:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Well, there is no need to say here why the subject is remarkable, is it? --YellowFrogger (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- @YellowFrogger: Hi. There is no claim to notability in the article and Miraheze almost certainly doesn't meet the general notability guideline, there are no reliable, secondary sources about them. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-47
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Please be bold and help translate this article!  The Casa Grande del Pueblo (English: Great House of the People), is the Bolivian presidential residence that replaced the Palacio Quemado in 2018. Inaugurated on 9 August 2018 during the presidency of Evo Morales as the official residence of the President of Bolivia, the interim government of Jeanine Áñez reverted to occupying the Palacio Quemado from 2019 to 2020. Following the inauguration of Luis Arce on 8 November 2020, it has again become the residence of the president. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
- The template dialog in VisualEditor and in the new wikitext mode Beta feature will be heavily improved on a few wikis. Your feedback is welcome.
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20:03, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Restore UP
Hello Ferien, will you please restore my User page. Thanks! --Hulged (talk) 16:37, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Hulged: I've done that for you :) --Ferien (talk) 16:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ferien. --Hulged (talk) 16:47, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
hi
kk you gave reminder thx for being nice and not ban me thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.175.70.217 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm in Gladstone fu,er
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- Ok, could you please not make unhelpful changes? Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
thanks
Hi. I'm not sure what happened there, but thank you for fixing up what I presume was vandalism or harassment to my user page by an IP. I had just happened to notice some vandalism so reverted it and sent them a message to let them know that I'd done that, and I guess that was their response. I am curious to see what they wrote to me though! Blissyu2 (talk) 21:19, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-48
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Please be bold and help translate this article!  William Morrison (23 August 1855 – 29 August 1927) was a Scottish chemist. His background in chemistry piqued his interest in improving storage batteries. He concentrated on how to produce the most available energy for a unit of weight for efficiency in the working of an individual battery cell. Eventually, he developed storage batteries far more powerful than what had then been available. To demonstrate his batteries, Morrison installed 24 of them on a common horse-drawn carriage and attached an electric motor to the rear axle to be powered by them. Through various innovations, he developed the controls for the power used and the vehicle's steering so that the driver had complete control. Morrison invented the first practical self-powered four-wheeled electric carriage in the United States. His electric vehicle was the first to be driven in Chicago and in his hometown of Des Moines, Iowa. This electric horseless buggy of the late 19th century helped pave the way for the hybrid electric automobile of the 21st century. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 December. It will be on all wikis from 2 December (calendar).
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21:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
RFD Discussion
Hello @Ferien Please close this Discussion as it created by mistake Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 18:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- and also is Wikipedia:Expanding Articles meets the standards to stay? 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 18:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- I've deleted that page. --Ferien (talk) 18:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Done. I also deleted the page. Thanks! :) --Ferien (talk) 18:37, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
