Welcome!Edit

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Naleksuh! I'm Derpdart56 and an active editor here. Thank you for your changes. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions check out Wikipedia:Questions, or send me a message on my talk page. I like to help new people, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like Wikipedia and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Derpdart56 (talk) 20:19, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

@Derpdart56: Hello, have we interacted before? I don't recognize your name, but I enjoy meeting new people. Naleksuh (talk) 20:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

TwinkleEdit

@Thegooduser: I generally prefer to keep as little scripts as possible, other than vanilla software and things I have created myself. I have had bad experiences with such software in the past. But I do appreciate that you let me know about it. Naleksuh (talk) 21:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

NoteEdit

Hi. Not sure if you got my ping, but there is no need to indent warning templates, thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Your Own UserpageEdit

Greetings Naleksuh. I am glad to see that you are finding your way around Wikipedia. It is very nice to have someone as active as you are to help us with anti-vandalism. In fact, getting to know you on IRC, you remind me a lot of myself when I started here about a year ago. To help you keep getting to know other editors, I would suggest that you created your own userpage. This will help everyone on Wikipedia learn more about you both as an editor and as a person. On your userpage you can write about things like your hobbies, aspirations, and more. If you want to see more about userpages, please read WP:UP. Thank you -Examknowtalk 22:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Examknow: Thank you, but I don't want to create a userpage at this time. I prefer to write on actual pages instead of writing about myself. If you have something you want to ask know about me, you can ask me here, right? Naleksuh (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Of course. You don't have to do anything it was just a suggestion. Cheers -Examknowtalk 00:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

questionEdit

Do you know what could be causing Wikipedia to log me in when I click Log In, without me putting in my password? I never clicked 'Keep me logged in". --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: Probably the CentralAuth. It's designed to log you into every wiki without you having to retype your password. Try going to the login wiki and you should be logged in there too. Is there a reason you would not want to press Keep Me Logged In though, do you edit from public computers and such? Naleksuh (talk) 19:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I don't press 'Keep me logged in" because I have around a 100 letter password (Don't ask me why) and don't want to forget/reset it (too much work) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I am not logged in there... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Thegooduser: Then I am unsure why. You may want to ask in #wikimedia-tech IRC channel. Naleksuh (talk) 20:02, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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Sure. Is that an Irc channel? (Adding a note that this only happens when I don't edit for 12 hours or more, it logs me out, then back in, which it shouldn't)--Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes. I have seen you connect to #wikipedia-simple before. Just connect to #wikimedia-tech as well. Naleksuh (talk) 20:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Channel is full. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
If you have saved your password to the browser or if you login hasn't expired yet and you haven't specifically logged out then it could just be that you were still logged in from the last time you logged in. -DJSasso (talk) 20:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
DJSasso I was logged out because I clicked the bell and it said "You have no notifications" and I also don't save passwords on my browser, I can email you some screenshots if that helps... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I have always had my IP exposed on irc, how do I hide it? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Thegooduser: Check your email. Naleksuh (talk) 21:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Replied to your email --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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For some reason I am logged out of every wmf wiki except this one and english wikipedia... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to ping Oshwah and see what he says about this... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
TL;DR: What you're seeing is normal because you're likely visiting another project for the first time since you've logged into your account somewhere else. Next time you navigate from one project to another and it shows you as "not logged in", just refresh the page instead of clicking "log in", and you'll likely see that it now shows you as logged in. Easy peasy! This is due to having a system (CentralAuth) automatically handle your account information and make it so you only have to have one login that works across every WMF project site.
Long version with technical explanation about how this all works: I believe that Naleksuh is correct. You're likely moving from project-to-project where you've already logged into one of them already. When you visit a different project for the first time since logging in, you'll show up as "not logged in" on the first page load; simply refreshing the page will synchronize your credentials from CentralAuth and you'll then show up as being logged into your account. You're just doing the "refreshing" when you click on "log in", which will load the next page, show that you're already logged in, and then navigate you back to the project. That's where you're getting confused. Next time, just refresh the page instead of clicking "log in", and you'll probably see that it'll show you as being logged in. Even if you don't tick the "keep me logged in" option, you're going to stay logged in for a certain amount of time before you're automatically logged out - that time period is just much shorter compared to if you were to tick "keep me logged in".
What you're noticing isn't an issue or problem; it's a feature thanks to having CentralAuth store and synchronize your credentials across all WMF projects. Back in the day, you had to sign up and manage a separate local account on each and every project that you contributed to - one for en-wiki, one for simple-wiki, one for es-wikiquote, so on and so forth - there was no such thing as having a login that would move with you across projects. Implementing CentralAuth removed the hassle of having to manage local accounts like this, and the username reconciliation project (where the system renamed your account's username if it was local and had the same username as an acocunt on another project that belonged to somebody else) finalized the last step so that CentralAuth could manage both new and existing accounts moving forward... Now, when someone signs up for an account on any WMF project, it creates a global account that's stored in CentralAuth and it creates a local account on that project. From there, CentralAuth will create a local account on each project for you automatically when you visit them for the first time, or it'll just log you in if a local account already exists for you there. When you change your password or set global preferences, that information is sent to CentralAuth from wherever you changed it at, and CentralAuth syncs that information to all of your local accounts on each project that has one. That's how all of this works...Β :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Oshwah After refreshing, it still says "not logged in" even though I'm logged in on simple en and en wikipedia... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Where does it say that exactly? What project are you on when you see it? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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Oshwah I'm logged in here and on en-wiki, on every other wmf-project, I need to manually log in, reloading and purging the cache does not log me in, I have to log myself in... I should add that this happens after 12 hours of inactivity, where I stay logged in here and on en, but not any other project... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused... What exactly is the issue here? If 12 hours of inactivity have gone by, needing to log in to your account is normal. Once you log in through a WMF project site, you should be able to move across sister projects and have your account sync with you. What you're describing seems like normal operation to me... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Oshwah along with that, there is a huge security flaw, when Media Wiki Logs me out automatically, I click log in, it logs me in without me putting in my password, then I am only logged in here and on en-wiki... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Oshwah I emailed you with more details and screenshots--Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:35, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
@Thegooduser: Regarding the sign-in issues earlier today, that was on Wikimedia's end and happened to everyone. I am unsure about the regular issues though Naleksuh (talk) 02:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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This email was sent before this :) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:47, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

remove deletation buttonEdit

indrajeet singh is a indian innovator not a entrepreneur so please edit it, and remove the the deletation button, because he was awarded by indian government and updated on government sites. he is real person. so request you sir remove deletation button and edit the entrepreneur word to innovator. thank you your highness

You've got mail!Edit

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Hello, Naleksuh. Check your email – you've got mail!
Message added 23:45, 23 May 2020 (UTC). You can take off this notice at any time by getting rid of the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:45, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

common.cssEdit

Can you leave a test message on my talk page? I made some changes to my common.css and I want to test it out. thanks --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Your change to User talk:103.83.37.40Edit

Please don't remove unblock requests. Doing so can be seen as interfering with users' ability to communicate with admins.

I see that the unblock request claimed that you are a sockpuppet. In cases like that, it's best to just let the checkusers decide whether the claim has merit and investigate if they see fit. Doing otherwise can be seen as trying to hide something. In this case there wasn't even a formal checkuser request. I was once the subject of a checkuser request myself, one initiated by a disgruntled user, but I just stayed out of it and let the checkusers handle it -- they know what they're doing. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Auntof6: It seems for the second time that you are taking these allegations by an LTA and vandal very seriously. However, many other users have acted differently on the matter. The post on AN has already been removed.
I'm currently suffering from migraines and nausea in real life at the moment, and it's possible I am not thinking properly. However, I would hope that you would take the appropriate actions by LTAs and not help them disrupt the wiki. Naleksuh (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

IPEdit

The IP you just reverted doesn't seem to be a vandal. IWI (chat) 23:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

You actually reverted that exact same IP though [1]. Seems they are attempting to disguise the addition of wrong information via both constructive edits and vandalism at the same time. Djsasso jumped back to his edit on May 8 before, which is this one. Since then, the article has actually been made worse as well, and might be worth putting there. Naleksuh (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
I reverted when they deleted info, but what you reverted wasn't exactly vandalism. You're right though, this user is disruptive. That kind of disguise is probably worthy of a short CIR block if it carries on. IWI (chat) 23:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
I do consider wrong information a type of vandalism, although some others are free to disagree with thatΒ :) The IP has been partially blocked from this page now, we will see if it continues once expired Naleksuh (talk) 23:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
The distinction is that wrong information being added is not always bad faith; vandalism is always bad faith. I saw the block and I agree with it. IWI (chat) 23:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Is true, all humans on this planet make mistake. Including myself, far more often than I would like to admit. Which is why the warning system exists (except for LTAs and such). Naleksuh (talk) 23:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) That is why I did the block the way I did... Wanted to assume good faith, but let it be known that the behavior was not correct, and to discuss changes on the talk page. So I felt limiting their access to the page for a short time would accomplish that. --Enfcer (talk) 00:04, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@Enfcer: I truly believe the user is acting in good faith, they just don't yet understand how things work here. IWI (chat) 00:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
I do remember something like this happening previously before, but am not entirely sure and is a good choice to assume good faith in that case, that is why I warned the user and such. Not all changes to the page are bad, but wrong information has been introduced along with styling errors. Naleksuh (talk) 00:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Most people of the everyday public don't have a grasp on our policies and guidelines. The user wasn't vandalising, so I AGF. IWI (chat) 00:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

The Delicious OneEdit

Thank you for your contribution to The Delicious One. -- 24.251.25.227 (talk) 04:45, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Most absolutely welcomed, in a collaborative project it should be the goal of all users to help in one way or another. Naleksuh (talk) 04:46, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Wienerschnitzel WikiEdit

Can you also contribute to Wienerschnitzel Wiki? It needs improvement and as well as The Delicious One on the wiki. -- 24.251.25.227 (talk) 09:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I am busy with too many other things at the moment, thank you for the link though Naleksuh (talk) 16:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

WarningsEdit

Hi Naleksuh. Please try to warn users every time you revert their edits, or at the very least explain your reasoning in the edit summary. The edit was likely good faith and perhaps rollback shouldn't have been used. New users must have the issues with their edit explained to them so they can be more helpful in the future. Thanks, IWI (chat) 18:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Yes, I try to leave warnings whenever possible, however in this particular case the text was clearly defamatory and he has already been indeffed on English Wikipedia as a vandalism-only account. Other times it is not appropriate to leave warnings includes spambots (what is clearly an automated program), cross-wiki abuse (WP:ONESTRIKE) and LTAs and other block evasion. However, in most cases, you will see me leaving warnings, as it's not appropriate to block first time for something possibly with good intentions, such as taking out text, that could have been done for a reason. Naleksuh (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Either way, a warning just in case is appropriate. It won't do any harm. It is simply a waste of time to warn an LTA, but it is not harmful. IWI (chat) 18:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I would argue it giving recognition and such to warn LTAs, but there is also relatively little harm done from such messages and in this particular case an only warning may have been much more appropriate. Thanks for the notice. If there are any more problems with my editing, do let me know, as I try to place myself open to editor review. Naleksuh (talk) 18:53, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
You have been an asset to the project since you joined a few months ago and I thank you for that. IWI (chat) 18:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
To bring this up again: please warn users who vandalize after you revert their edits. The last time I see you gave a warning was July 14. Since then, you've made about 10 rollbacks that went unwarned (I'm not counting a handful of LTAs or already blocked users). Part of vandalism work is to alert users about the concerns with their edits. Please make an effort to provide warnings when you revert vandalism. Only (talk) 13:49, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
@Only: Sorry, yeah this is my fault. It is something I know that I need to improve. Thanks for the notice. Naleksuh (talk) 08:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Karto-ZanEdit

While enwiki uses Georgian-Zan, I named it Karto-Zan for two reasons:

  • All other wikis call it Karto-Zan primarily
  • Literature tends to use Karto-Zan

Thoughts? IWI (chat) 17:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Generally, the goal is to use the same title as English Wikipedia unless there is a reason to think our title would be more simple, which I wouldn't see in this case. About your points for why Karto-Zan would be better, you could argue for the page to be moved at English Wikipedia. Naleksuh (talk) 17:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
That's exactly what I will do. Thanks N. IWI (chat) 17:22, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @ImprovedWikiImprovment: And you can always create a redirect for the alternate name. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:46, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: A redirect was created, but his goal was to have the content page there. Regardless, the page has now been moved into the title he wanted, because the English page was moved as well. In the rare cases where our title is intentionally different from English, the English title should redirect to ours as well. Anything has been missed? Naleksuh (talk) 06:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Yes, I would've created a redirect, but the idea was to have the primary name in the literature as the title of the article itself. IWI (chat) 14:49, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@ImprovedWikiImprovment: I understood that. I meant that whichever title the article had, there could be a redirect for the other one. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: What about redirecting film pages to the equivalent movie page? Would this also be a good idea? Naleksuh (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: yes, definitley. @Naleksuh: I think so but sounds tedious (most won't have that redirect at the moment) IWI (chat) 22:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
I don't think I'd do much of that without discussing how much of it we want. We have some where articles were created with a "film" qualifier and then were moved. I've also created some category redirects when I see people bringing over enwiki articles with enwiki's categories. I usually treat these the way we look at stub sorting: don't make it a big effort, just do some now and then when you see the a specific need. Of course, that's just my take. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: My conclusion is mostly similar as well, that there is no problem with creating them, but large and / or automated creation should be discussed. I may bring to the AWB Access Page (although I would not actually use AWB to do so). Naleksuh (talk) 00:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I honestly don't think it is a valuble use of time when really, nobody would link to it that way as it's pretty well known that we use the word movie among active editors. Then again, if there is a specific need, then yes, create it. IWI (chat) 00:40, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: The goal of redirects is not for editors who mistakingly type links wrong, but for readers as is the purpose of any other page. As changing "en" to "simple" in the URL should take you to a simple version, but when our title is different, the English one should redirect to ours. Naleksuh (talk) 00:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

ircEdit

  • If you got a moment, I'd like to chat with you on simple english wikipedia irc. thanks --Thegooduser Let's Talk!Β :) 🍁 21:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm on IRC 24/7, even if not awake, just hop on and message me anytime. Naleksuh (talk) 21:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
I've requested cloak, posted question at en:wp:hd#cloak perhaps you can help? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:26, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

my talk pageEdit

hi. On my talk page, there is a wikibreak notice, for me it appears at the very top, but for other screens it appears under the archive box, does it appear like that for you too? How can I make it appear on the very top? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:42, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: For me it appears normal in both Monobook and Vector. You may want to ask whoever is seeing it under the archive box to disable any custom CSS they may have. Naleksuh (talk) 00:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Thegooduser: I saw it like this also in vector, underneath the archive box. I moved it and fixed it for me. Feel free to revert, of course.Β :) IWI (chat) 00:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
It looked different for me, when I use my desktop computer, while logged out, but I think ImprovedWikiImprovement has fixed it. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Yeah it was under the archive box before for me. Now it's at the very top, Thegooduser. IWI (chat) 00:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Merging and renaming on TwinkleEdit

Hi! I'm still getting the hang of the merging and renaming processes, and noticed you seem to be making quite a few of those changes. Can they be done on Twinkle as well (that I may have missed)? I'm such a noob in those processes, so would appreciate some tipsΒ :) TIA! - β€” Infogapp1 (talk) 22:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Infogapp1: I am not sure what you mean by "merging and renaming" - would you mean moving pages to match English Wikipedia? If so, that is simply a matter of checking English title pages. I do not use Twinkle, neither to move pages or anything else. Naleksuh (talk) 00:25, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Ah, sorry for the confusion. I shouldn't have mixed both questions at once. If I wanted to propose an article for merging, and if I wanted to rename a page (whether it be because it's not properly capitalised, etc). β€” Infogapp1 (talk) 00:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
@Infogapp1: To propose for merging, add {{merge}} to the top, instructing people to discuss on the talk page. To rename a page, click "move" button at the top. Naleksuh (talk) 00:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I tried to do this for Decode Entertainment. Would you mind taking a look if I missed anything? β€” Infogapp1 (talk) 00:34, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
@Infogapp1: Apologies for late reply - you did not add {{mergeto}} to the other page as seen here, but other than that it looks good. Speaking only from technical procedure of merging, I am neutral on whether it should actually be merged Naleksuh (talk) 18:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Got it, appreciate the help. β€” Infogapp1 (talk) 18:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Monthly maintenance categoriesEdit

Thanks for creating these categories! Please note the following about creating them:

  • We don't create them until they're needed. I've deleted some for this month that were empty.
  • The ones for pages needing to be simplified aren't created the same way as the others. Please look at the change I made to Category:Pages needing to be simplified from July 2020 to see the correct setup.

Thanks again! --Auntof6 (talk) 06:29, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Since you requested input on this message in #wikipedia-simple, I will say Auntof6 knows what she's talking about. I'm not sure what input you'd really like on a sysop trying to assist you or teach you something. Can you expand on what portion you're seeking input on or what you feel is incorrect or inappropriate? Operator873talkconnect 07:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Ah yes, it has been noticed to not exist while unpopulated. They rarely remain unpopulated for long, but surely there is no harm gained from creating once populated. I would question why some type of different syntax is used for complex pages -- no difference seems to be gained from it. Naleksuh (talk) 07:09, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I've often wondered why the complex pages categories are set up differently, but I've never looked into it. I suspect it has to do with different naming between the lower-level categories and the parent categories. And, yes, it's certainly fine to create categories when there is something in them. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:14, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Auntof6 is correct in that aspect: the wiki uses Category:Monthly clean-up category (Complex pages) counter instead of Category:Monthly clean-up category (Pages needing to be simplified) counter, so the |cat= parameter must be passed to the template (it is not mandatory to pass the other parameters to {{MonthlyCleanupCat}}; their calculated values are correct). Why the parent category is named differently is probably a legacy problem that no one had gotten around to addressing, and it's not like it has caused major problems, either. ChenzwΒ Β TalkΒ  10:54, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

National symbols of IndiaEdit

While reviewing recent changes, I saw that you had reverted an edit to National symbols of India. I've noticed a pattern on that topic, both here and on Wikimedia Commons: [2]. Some IPs and users (which I think are sockpuppets) keep adding stuff to it that I don't think is real. For example, I think "National gurdwara of India" is made up. Many of these are still on Commons and here, but I don't really know how to go through them.Naddruf (talk) 04:14, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: ​ See User:Chenzw/Reports/Pakistan for any additional informations. Page is not being actively maintained, but covers a lot of useful information. Naleksuh (talk) 04:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

My argument was clearly going nowhereΒ :)

RfD nomination of Ram RanchEdit

An editor has requested deletion of Ram Ranch, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/Ram Ranch and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. IWI (chat) 21:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

UntitledEdit

Confirming that β€œ^sithjarjar^” is my IRC name. --sithjarjar666 (my contribs | talk to me | email me | see my enwiki profile) 19:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)