Talk:Miami Sound Machine

Notes for simplifying

Complex words/phrases: Latin-influenced, features, hugely, credited, follow-up

Other notes:

• MSM is not a "group of music", they are a musical group, or band
• Compound sentences need to be divided.
• The article needs at least one reference.

--Auntof6 (talk) 10:24, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

I've gotten features, hugely and follow-up removed. I also simplified the article. Something else? Angela Maureen (talk) 10:47, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

In reading about this group elsewhere (such as on enwiki), I learned that after Gloria Estefan joined them and they started performing under just her name, a new group formed using this same name. I think you need to address that in the article. The way it's written now, information about the two groups is mixed together and gives an incorrect impression. Specifically, Gloria Estefan doesn't sing with the group that is currently called Miami Sound Machine.

The only other thing is that it needs a better reference. A reference to an online store is not a reliable reference. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:17, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I've taken out the unreliable reference. There's no other references in the enwiki article. I also changed the meanings around. I'm gonna need some help on the rest. Angela Maureen (talk) 05:48, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, I've read some more about this. Here is a basic timeline of what happened with this group:

1. Formed under the name Miami Latin Boys
2. Gloria Estefan and another woman joined the group, group was renamed to Miami Sound Machine
3. After success with Estefan, the group started being called Gloria Estefan and Miami Sound Machine
4. After a lot of members left the group, the name Miami Sound Machine stopped being used and Estefan performed under her name alone
5. In 2002, the name "Miami Sound Machine" was used again for a new group without Estefan or any of the previous members. That group didn't last long and no longer exists.

I've gone ahead and updated the article. Here are some notes:

• Since the group doesn't exist any more, it needed to use past verb tenses, not present verb tenses.
• References: you're not limited to references from the enwiki article. You can do a web search and see what you find. There's usually something there you can use. I've added a reference, the group's entry at Allmusic. That isn't necessarily a very reliable reference either, but it's better than a commercial site like Amazon.
• You categorized this article under "American pop musicians". The "musician" categories are for individuals, not groups. The category needed here is "American pop music groups".
• You had the sentence "The band had a number of hit songs and albums." The phrase "a number of" is vague and shouldn't be used. If you know how many they had, even approximately, use a number. Otherwise, you can just say that they "had hit songs and albums".

So take a look at what I did and make sure you understand it. Ask me any questions about it. Then let me know if you want to make any other changes before we move it back to mainspace. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)