User talk:Barliner/archive3

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Douglas Hyde

Dear Barliner,

I moved the page back to Douglas Hyde again. You can find my reasoning on its talk page. I invite you to discuss it there, before we move the page again, if at all. - Huji ^reply 15:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I never moved your page, but I was editing it when you moved mine, and have carried on editing. ---barliner--talk--contribs- 16:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

IRC client

Sorry, I gave you the incorrect link. Here is the correct one: link. - Huji ^reply 21:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

redirect

If I'm not wrong, I noticed a few non-working redirects recently, and a few of them were created by you. I thought it'd be useful to remind you about what you might already know: The redirect command must be typed exactly as #REDIRECT [[Page Name]]. "REDIRECT" should be in upper case, and there should be no spaces betwee the # and the REDIRECT part.

With my best wishes, - Huji ^reply 07:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I always use the #R button from the editbox's toolbar. Although it uses local letters there is no problem (Template:Country date IRL for example. Before I started using the toolbar I found I sometimes typed out the command and did not put the article in [[linking-brackets]]. I thought I'd corrected them all immediately. Maybe this is what you've found ---barliner--talk--contribs- 13:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyways, your choice of using the #R button is a good one. You can also make the edittools visible to yourself (which appear "below" the edit box) and use the redirect command from there. Cheers, - Huji ^reply 13:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

For your hard work...

Congratulations: You have been awarded a Barnstar! To be the first to thank you for working so hard on contributing to templates and cleaning-up categorizes (and by beating me in edit counts with 3000+), I award with this barnstar for doing a good (actually a great) job! Cheers and happy editing:) --§ Snake311 (T + C) 01:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar

Thank you very much for that barnstar:))) --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 04:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Your quality over my quantity :-) ---barliner--talk--contribs- 09:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Former Country

Why did this template need to be recreated? I had done a lot of changes so that it didn't create such specific categories. Also, why do we need the talk page imported from English Wikipedia? · Tygrrr^·talk· 21:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I was finding a problem, not using the new version. however as you have worked on the simple template I will revert to that version and afd the other pages. ---barliner--talk--contribs- 21:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have a problem with the /Blank and /Instructions pages, etc. I just don't think we need to bring over the talk page from English. What problem were you having with the older version? · Tygrrr^·talk· 21:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't need all of the talk page but it does provide a very useful blank template. ---barliner--talk--contribs- 21:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I think your solution of just leaving the blank part in the talk page is a good one. :-) · Tygrrr^·talk· 21:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope the new template makes up for me undoing your changes. After I have added it to the Irish article I have created I will try to add it to the other article in the former countries category, if there is enough information. ---barliner--talk--contribs- 09:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yr User Pg

How do you make the Babel Boxes? I know about languages, but stuff like "Germanophile", where do you get it? Or do you have to make it yrself? LIAM / LIAM ^mailbox 11:40, 12 October 2007(UTC)

This one is on Barliner/userboxes/german. Link to it if you want to use it. I have a few more on en:wiki along with loads of other people in the Wikipedian userboxes category. Take a look. The category now has the code and instructions to create your own box. --`Barliner´******`talk´ 12:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

New categories

I've noticed you've created many new categories that only have one article in them or no articles in them. For example, Tomas Garrigue Masaryk would be the only article in the Category:Czechoslovakia--and that's okay (believe it or not)! :-) It's not necessary to create Category:Czechoslovak people just to put the Category:Czechoslovak politicians in it (which itself has only one article--Tomas Garrigue Masaryk). It's okay to just let the categories develop naturally and create them when needed instead of creating 2 or 3 categories just to place 1 article in the most specific category. The general rule is to have 2 or 3 (or even 4 or 5) articles that would go in the same category before creating it. The exception to this in my mind (and some may disagree with this) is for years, birth years, and death years. If you have any questions about categorizing, Creol and myself are pretty knowledgeable about this area of Wikipedia editing and would be willing to help you. Sorry for the long comment! :-) · Tygrrr^·talk· 21:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I left [[category poets]] pretty much alone, except for the Greek and English poets which already have sub-categories. I suppose I have been too tidy:) --`Barliner´******`talk´ 21:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Bringing this point up again. Saxe-Meiningen is a wonderful example of what not to do. Rather than copy/pasting the entire en:wp category list and then creating a host of single article categories, the category list should have been shortened to just the most useful ones. Several of the categories created there do not even have a main article (Category:States of the North German Confederation for example, when we do not have an article about the North German Confederation]]). Former states of Germany would have been an adequate category (and may be one of the valid cases of being both in the cat and subcat (Ernestine duchies) as both are appropriate - that would need to be commented in the cats section though so it isn't cleared out later).

Another issue with your new categories deals with the "combination categories". Combination categories are categories which replace needing two categories for one article (ie. using Category:Cycling in England in place of Cat:Cycling and Cat:Sports in England, Category:Brazilian athletes). When creating a sub-category joining two groups such as these, you need to make certain you place it in both (or more in some cases) categories above it as it is a member of each: Brazilian athletes are Athletes (Cat:Sportspeople by country) from Brazil (cat:Brazilian people). You have a tendency to just use one when creating new cats. An easy rule of thumb is to start by looking at the main category (say: Cat:Brazilian people). Looking at the entries, you see many athletes and see a need for the category. Both the main cat (Brazil people) and the reasoning for a new subcat (athletes) are valid categories for the new cat. -- Creol(talk) 15:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

German categories

For continuity, I have replied on my talk page. · Tygrrr^·talk· 13:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Article Improvement Drive

You might want to know...

The current Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive article is 1980s.
Last week's collaboration was: NONE.
CAST YOUR VOTE for next week's article

Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 20:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Please come in to IRC. I want to talk about AID. -- Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 20:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hiya

Hello Barliner, I was wondering if I was able to renominate you for adminship. While I do know you had two pervious unsuccessful RfAs, one which was by me, I believe that you should try to run again since I strongly believe you have a better knowledge of simple wikipedia as well as having enough experience by now to qualify for sysophood. While I am only asking if you want to accept my offer or not, please reply to my talk page. Thank you:) --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 01:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Affirmative reply permanent link

Just to let you know, I have already nominated you:) --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 01:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Edward VIII

The "Duke of Windsor" is a peerage title, not a name. In this case only one person ever held the title so it is commonly attributed to him, but had he had any male heirs, they too would have been the Duke of Windsor. His actual name is not his title. The en:wp page for DoW lists it as a title created for Prince Edward and then goes to link to Edward's page at en:Edward VIII of the United Kingdom. The interwiki links on that page (and on ours) show 25 other languages that also refer to him as Edward VIII (could be more of them, but only 25 are in romanized scripts and I don't read Arabic, Japanese or Chinese). Neither the fact that he abdicated nor his short reign changes the fact that his was King of Great Britain, Ireland ... and as this was his highest title, it is listed as his official one (although I did screw up the part of him being DoW before king instead of after king). -- Creol(talk) 19:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

ip edit to Air space

Hello. :) I don't understand why you gave a test warning here. I would have left a note on the ip's talk page like you did explaining British/American spelling, but it wasn't really a test edit. --Isis§^(talk) 22:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

True I have rewritten this as a not rather than a warning. -- Barliner  talk  22:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Administrator

Congratulations, you're now an administrator. I suggest you take a quick re-read of our policies and guidelines, and make sure you check your email regularly. If you ever need any help at all, you can always ask me or another administrator. Thanks! Archer7 - talk 10:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations for the new responsibility. - Huji ^reply 15:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Hey!! I'm back:) Sorry that I have been gone for a few days, but congrats on your promotion. Enjoy your sysophood:) lol --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 03:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Page protection

I set the protection for your user page to Sysop only for move and edits. This is fairly common for most admins user pages as we draw a lot of bullseyes from random IP vandals. If you chose to un-protect your user page and allow anyone to edit it that is your choice, but it may be a good idea to keep it protected. There realy is no reason for anyone other than you to be editing that page and there is certainly no reason for anyone other than a 'crat for moving it (as part of a name change) so keeping it protected just prevents the random admin bashers from playing games with the page. Our talk pages need be unprotected, but there is no reason for our user pages to be subject to the constant vandalism. You may also want to consider looking into adding variation of your name to the username black list so that it isn't used by the various (or more specific) admin username vandals (The McA vandal is well known for the random "Barliner love Shawn's sister", "Barliner love to block for no reason" name creations.. ) -- Creol(talk) 07:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Nikki Grahame

Hi would be really nice if you could find a photo of Nikki Grahame to put into the article. Thanks.--Sinbad 19:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) :Contact User:Gungadin on en:wp. Ask them to upload the photo being used on the ENWP Nikki Grahame article to commons. The licence seems acceptable to commons -- Barliner  talk  20:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Done, what do you think of the image? You'll need to add a caption -- Barliner  talk  20:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Its a great image:)--Sinbad 21:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Charley Uchea

Hi could you help me create a page on Charley on english wikipedia since i think she deserves her own page their?thanks--Sinbad 21:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

If you ever find a new image on Uchea feel free to add it.--Sinbad 16:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page! JetLover ^Bam! 23:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete this

Can you please delete that, it should have been deleted after the RFD,thanks Oysterguitarist 19:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Unptotect

Unprotect my Userspace. I'm Back. -- Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 20:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thx. Well done on gettin SysOp! Anythin I need 2 kno about?--Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 20:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Yes. I need to remeber to --~~~~!

I actually requested in to be QD'd per A7. -- Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 06:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Simple English

What is the difference between regular english and simple english?-Razorflame 20:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC).

To quote the guideline "Many readers of Simple English are people whose mother language is not English. Other readers may be young (they may be children) or have learning difficulties. The language is simple, but the ideas don't have to be." SEWP has many articles the same as ENWP, but presented in a simpler language. Complex ideas, but written with simpler words, -- Barliner  talk  20:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Nine

Do you think that I am doing a good job with my article, 9? I can't think of what else to add to the page...-Razorflame 23:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at other numbers. Ten for example has "This article is about the number ten. For the year, see 10" and a link to simple wiktionary. -- Barliner  talk  23:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC).

RFA

Please vote in my RFA! -- Spiderpig0001 Does whatever a spiderpig does! 00:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Abortion

Hello Barliner, I think the gist of the talk page was to use "unborn child" rather than fetus or embryo all the time (see Crossing the line between simple English to incorrect English on the discussion page). This is what I tried to point out in the message following the semi-protection of the article. I know abortion is a controversial discussion (in the United States, and elsewhere), that is part of why I semi-protected the article. It was my personal understanding that using unborn child was a term that was both simple, and something both sides could live with (i.e neutral). --Eptalon 12:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

"Unborn child" is a POV term, the arguments on the talk page show that. It is also undefined. Also the changes you made only changed the several reference to fetus at the beginning of the article, when the difference (as in spontaneous abortion" between foetus and embryo where most appropriate. -- Barliner  talk  12:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Sexual intercourse

He added it as a new language... -Razorflame 15:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

What is wrong with the english language. Even if the interwiki was a duplicate of one already there it does not deserve a warning about adding nonsense, so I removed the warning. -- Barliner  talk  15:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Better?

Am I doing better in helping this site? -Razorflame 20:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

And are the articles that I've been adding from the English Wikipedia been helpful at least? -Razorflame 17:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

They have, but there is no need to remove every red link. But don't forget there are plenty of {{stubs}} here on SEWP that you might be able to improve too. :) -- Barliner  talk  17:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

That is true, and yes, I realize that there is no need to remove every red link. That's why I've undone my changes in removing red links to Valais.

Do you think it's alright to just directly port the articles from the en:WP over to here without simplifying it? I just realized that I kind of lack the ability to talk in simple terms. -Razorflame 17:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

No. Those articles could be marked with Template:Encopypaste and deleted. Change the articles into Simple English. If your changes are not enough another editor will be able to simplify even more. And of course your proficiency will improve too. -- Barliner  talk  17:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I will start to simplify them then. Let me work on them for a while please. -Razorflame 17:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Pages Restored

I would like these two pages to be restored:

• User:Razorflame/Sierre
• User:Razorflame/Brig, Switzerland
• User:Razorflame/Pennine Alps

And I need these two pages deleted:

• Sierre
• Brig, Switzerland
• Pennine Alps

razorflame, Do you want them restored to edit and simplify -- Barliner  talk  19:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Correct. I want them restored to edit and simplify. -Razorflame 20:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done articles in user space restored and the redirects from mainspace deletede -- Barliner  talk  20:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Huji accidentally deleted the userpage versions instead of the redirects :) -Razorflame 20:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Brig (Villages)

Just delete it, there is no reason to rfd it. -Razorflame 21:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirect Deletion

User:Razorflame/Brig, Switzerland This redirect can be deleted.

 Done-- Barliner  talk  21:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Another that can be deleted. -Razorflame 22:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done-- Barliner  talk  22:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Razorflame/Anzère Another that can be deleted. -Razorflame 22:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done-- Barliner  talk  22:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Razorflame/Sembrancher
• User:Razorflame/Saint-Maurice

and a 3rd one. -Razorflame 15:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done-- Barliner  talk  15:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Razorflame/Vex
• User:Razorflame/Münster-Geschinen
• User:Razorflame/Brig, Switzerland

2 more to be deleted. -Razorflame 15:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done-- Barliner  talk  16:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Razorflame/Jura (canton)
• User:Razorflame/Leuk
• User:Razorflame/Raron
• User:Razorflame/Visp

 Done-- Barliner  talk  15:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Four more for deletion. -Razorflame 15:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Razorflame/Thurgau
• User talk:Razorflame/Valais
• User:Razorflame/Graubünden (add an umlaut to the u)

Three more for deletion -Razorflame 20:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

 Done-- Barliner  talk  20:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• User:Razorflame/Nidwalden

Another for deletion. -Razorflame 18:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Recent Swiss Articles

Do you think that I've been helpful with my recent creations of many articles about Switzerland as well as my article on St. Petersburg? -Razorflame 16:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The articles are short and provide a basis for expansion in most cases. You never created St Petersburg. Check your "my changes" :) -- Barliner  talk  16:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I've added two of the Swiss cantons, Thurgau and that other one, to my list of articles being simplified. -Razorflame 17:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Images

How do I upload an image onto Simple Wikipedia? The Upload File link seems to be missing on the menu on the left hand side. Thanks, -Razorflame 17:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

You can't. You must upload onto commons instead. -- Barliner  talk  17:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you think that website that I've been using, www.webminerals.com is a public domain website? Cause they have some good images for the minerals there that I would like to use for my mineral pages. -Razorflame 17:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Seven Lucky Gods

The Nihongo is not SEWP material. I've just been trying to simplify the page. -Razorflame 17:20, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:Nihongo has been an SEWP template since September 2006-- Barliner  talk  17:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

So you are saying that it is simple enough for this site? -Razorflame 17:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The template shows the original Japanese language name of the article, in the same way that I often use lang-de to show the original German version of subjects I am writing about. There is nothing wrong with making such references. -- Barliner  talk  17:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I will remember that for the future :) -Razorflame 17:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

How have I been doing?

Hey Barliner, can you tell me what you think of me and the edits that I've made to this site please? I really want to know if I've been doing the right thing. Thanks, -Razorflame 17:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Instead of making lots of quite small articles about Swiss towns, why not move onto a larger article about one of the larger towns: Geneva for example doesn't have much modern info.-- Barliner  talk  17:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

You have to agree with me that Valais isn't small though.  :) -Razorflame 00:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it bad to be making lots of small articles? Usually, doing that is like to allow people to add information in the future. -Razorflame 17:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar! For deleting vandalous articles, for patrolling recent changes looking for vandalism attempts, and for reverting many vandalous edits. I hereby award you this barnstar! -Razorflame 04:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)