User talk:Giggy/Archive 2
Giggy, somethimes reality has a bias against things. That's the scientific assessment of homeopathy, and I think fully justified by the sources. Some of your changes actually went in direct conflict with the sources - "homeopathy is not considered as useful as other treatments." is not the correct summary of sources talking about how using homeopathy can cause people to miss out on conventional medicine treatments, and cause them active harm. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, I should have noted in my edit summary that I know next to nothing about Homeopathy, so I apologise if I misread or misinterprted anything you wrote - I worked based on that and the EnWP version. I used the EnWP version because anything that starts off with "Homeopathy is a form of medicine that almost certainly doesn't work" can not possibly be taken seriously. You can do better and you know it. The fact that you reverted to a version without a references section twice ([1][2]) further emphasises to me that something is not right. I suggest you avoid editing this article and allow others will less bias to sort it out if you are not able to edit neutrally. —Giggy 05:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't mind stepping back, but you got a lot of basic facts wrong. I expected to be edited, but when things begin saying something completely different to the references in the name of "NPOV", then it starts to get a bit annoying. It's one thing to fix phrasing or organisation, it's another when the text starts to be at odds with the references. =/ Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, I appreciate the effort you've put in to making sure it's factually accurate - that's just as important as it is to make sure that it doesn't push a side of the debate (incidentally, there's a citation needed now, if you can help with that... basically a ref needed for the Placebo effect and its relation to this). —Giggy 05:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't mind stepping back, but you got a lot of basic facts wrong. I expected to be edited, but when things begin saying something completely different to the references in the name of "NPOV", then it starts to get a bit annoying. It's one thing to fix phrasing or organisation, it's another when the text starts to be at odds with the references. =/ Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Chili Pepper
changeAlthough chillies are part of the Capsicum genus, they are a common English term used to refer to the spice, not any specific taxon in taxonomy. Therefore, the taxonomic directory of life, Wikispecies, I feel, is not relevant. To proove this; both this Wikipedia and the EN one do not have a taxobox, showing that the chilli is not a specific taxon. Also, the EN Wikipedia does not have a link to Wikispecies. Should I remove the link again? Minor or Prime 10:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Meh, it's up to you. I would include the link as it's generally correct (capsicum genus) even if not strictly correct (spice, not taxon), but it's up to you. I don't mind either way. —Giggy 10:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I have removed the link already. Minor or Prime 11:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Reply to your comment on my RfA
changeActually, I can say with certainty that you are one of the less active users on this site. Considering the fact that I have hardly ever seen your name on the recent changes list, I can say, with certainty, that you are not very active on this site. Cheers, Razorflame 01:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- And I can say with equal certainty (make of that what you will) that with an attitude like that, it's a good thing your RfA didn't pass. —Giggy 01:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Try failing 8 RfAs first, then see if you can feel the same way then. Cheers, Razorflame 01:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Giggy, if you opt-in, then we can see how active you are (Interiot's tool doesn't show month-by-month breakdown for other wikis). Then we can see how active you are. Cassandra talk 01:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Incidentally, you hit 666 edits just now (though you have 12 deleted edits). Oooh, demon, demon! Cassandra talk 01:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK, opted in: User:Giggy/Editcounter. —Giggy 09:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
you...
change...should BE on the English Wikipedia; you're self-important and ignorant enough!
- Did you see the comment on the Commons about the image? Generally I would have answered the request for understanding. If the answer is "you can't", that's still an answer.
- Blanking out a signature - or any page for that matter - because you personally don't like it? Deal. That's vandalism.
- And as for my talk page, if you can't read it, don't read it.
- VengeancePrime
- Ha. Ironically I am on the English Wikipedia regularly. Though that's hardly the point.
- Consider the deletion as a "you can't". There are policies available, and there are places to ask for help, both of which are linked to from your talk page, and neither of which involve uploading an image and then asking a question on it.
- No, that's taking action, following a warning, over something particularly disruptive. If you're not editing actively, it doesn't matter anyway as you won't use it. If you are editing actively, it's an extreme pain in the butt.
- I don't care about your talk page, but someone trying to communicate with you (and after you copy paste stuff from EnWP without simplifying it, despite being told not to since this isn't EnWP), they're going to have troubles. Please do something about it.
- —Giggy 13:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and just to clarify: there is no use of fair use images on this Wikipedia. It's a free encyclopedia with free images only. —Giggy 13:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- See, that wasn't so hard? That last line is all that need be said.
- If you (bothered to) look at the message, you'll see it was posted AFTER the upload and done so in a "I see this was mistaken, please delete the image" manner. Your antagonistic reaction was the problem. I would have deleted it myself had I the power. You see, you made this into a grand issue when it was quite simple. Delete the image (which I realized was necessary after the error and encouraged) and answer the question so the same mistake is not repeated.
- "Thank you" (for finally getting around to it). VengeancePrime 22:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC) happy now?
Apology
changeHello there, Giggy. I would just like to apologize for how I reacted towards your oppose vote on my RfA. Its' just that something about the oppose vote just made something click in my head, and that is what got me all riled up. I am sorry for the things that I said on the RfA page and on this talk page and I am very sorry for the things that I said. I hope that this will not change anything between us on this Wikipedia, as you are one of the editors that I respect quite a bit over on the English Wikipedia, ever since your 3rd RfA. I have realized that you, too, have gone through the drama that I am currently going through on an RfA and that you know how I feel currently because you have been through it as well :). I hope that we can still be friends on this Wikipedia and possibly work together on some project in the future. I hope that I did not damage anything beyond repair between us with my actions over the past few days. Please let me know if we can still potentially work together on some project sometime in the near future. Cheers, Razorflame 16:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- No worries :-) Look forward to working with you. —Giggy 07:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Recent changes
changeSorry about that. I'm not really good at sentence structure; which is why I'm here and not at EN Wikipedia. Minor or Prime 10:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Not a problem :-) —Giggy 10:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
My other IP number is blocked
changeHi Giggy, thanks a lot for your quick welcome.:) I was trying to find an admin who was on here at the moment. I tried to join from my friend's house. I use his computer a lot. It said I couldn't sign up because the IP had been abusive. I don't mind people knowing it as it only shows my city at most, at the moment his IP is 91.108.51.115 so earlier it probably was something similar. Just thought someone might think about unblocking it as it is Orange and is used by a lot of people in the UK. Thanks again for the welcome.:)
P.S. If that isn't in the same range, I mailed User:Creol (who blocked it) with the number at the time, through his English wikipedia email. But I see on his talk page he says he's suffering with his thumb. Sticky Parkin (talk) 00:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... you'll have to ask Creol. I'm not an admin here. Here's the relevant block log for the record. —Giggy 00:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I thought you were an admin. I must be thinking of what you do on "meta" or something. Sorry.:) Sticky Parkin (talk) 01:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Commons, and no worries :-) I pinged Creol so hopefully he'll comment here soon. —Giggy 01:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I thought you were an admin. I must be thinking of what you do on "meta" or something. Sorry.:) Sticky Parkin (talk) 01:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Are we "allowed" to use them here much? Obviously not quite like this one, but more sensible.:) Sticky Parkin (talk) 11:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm certainly not aware of anything that says not to! Just make sure the article would make sense with or without the link (to some extent at least); that's the rule of thumb I try to go by. —Giggy 11:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I've tinkered a little bit with it. Just thought I'd let you know as it's one you're working on quite a lot. I've not done anything big. I didn't like 'sold okay', thought it was a bit informal, but that's probably my age. :) Sticky Parkin (talk) 22:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your help :-) —Giggy 04:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Powderfinger
changeThought I'd let you know I closed the PVGA on Powderfinger early due to WP:SNOW. Its now a Very Good Article. Congrats! F S M 22:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! I updated a few pages you might have missed. —Giggy 04:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Barnstar
changeThe Australian Barnstar of National Merit | ||
I have awarded you the Australian barnstar for your work on the Australian band Powderfinger |
Peterdownunder (talk) 02:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks :-) You're doing good work too. —Giggy 04:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Nomination
changeHey, I was going to ask to nominate you in a few weeks, now look what you did! :-) And I love how you immediately went to work on articles after you added your RfA! -- RyanCross (talk) 02:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm a mind reader. :-) Giggy (talk) 02:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, what the hey, may I add in a nomination? I suppose now would be good too. I'm sure I'll be able to put in a good word for you. :-) Though, you might want to move your self-nom to a "candidate's statement", that is, if you accept. -- RyanCross (talk) 02:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, feel free. It's currently live, but no harm if you feel like doing that. Giggy (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Unlucky with the RfA. The reasons for opposing were silly really (in my opinion). Good luck with the future, keep your head up, and happy editing :) Kennedy (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Plenty more articles to write :-) Giggy (talk) 08:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Unlucky with the RfA. The reasons for opposing were silly really (in my opinion). Good luck with the future, keep your head up, and happy editing :) Kennedy (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, feel free. It's currently live, but no harm if you feel like doing that. Giggy (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, what the hey, may I add in a nomination? I suppose now would be good too. I'm sure I'll be able to put in a good word for you. :-) Though, you might want to move your self-nom to a "candidate's statement", that is, if you accept. -- RyanCross (talk) 02:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I didn't remove valid content
changeI didn't remove valid content. I removed that China and the Sovjet Union were examples of trying to achieve communism. Mao Zedong led a brutal dictatorship and Mao abused the farmers in the Great Leap Forward [3] (see the "Consequences..." section). This was not a step towards equality. It led to 30 million people being starved. [4] The Sovjet Union is infamous, and Lenin and Stalin were nothing but propagandists who used communism to get on the side of the population, because they were attracted to universal equality. This is the same beast as the American Empire calling itself "democracy" and the Third Reich's regime called "socialist" (the NSDAP). — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to take a look at the EnWP article for some more information. Your opinion would appear to go against the established opinion of reliable sources, etc. etc. Your comment about the US and democracy, especially, casts a shade of doubt upon the rest of what you say. Remember NPOV; it's not your opinion, it's the sources, that count. Giggy (talk) 02:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Why does this cast a shade of doubt? Democracy comes from the Greek "rule by the people", and since the US government doesn't go on a "power to the people" basis, and does not exist to carry out the demands, requests, and needs of the people, it is not a democracy. It's an imperial plutocracy. The govermnent conquers, expands, colonizes, and pursues aggression, and serves only the interests of itself and big business. Also, we are not en.wp. I've an active sock there, but I don't want to use it to change the info as it would be obvious who it is. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think you shouldn't change the content there because it would fly in the face of reliable sourcing, not because you're blocked. Giggy (talk) 08:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Are the sources above that say that Mao was a brutal murderer and starved his people unreliable? Is it disputed that this is not a movement to an equal, classless society? — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think anything productive is going to come of my discussing politics with you. Giggy (talk) 07:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Are the sources above that say that Mao was a brutal murderer and starved his people unreliable? Is it disputed that this is not a movement to an equal, classless society? — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think you shouldn't change the content there because it would fly in the face of reliable sourcing, not because you're blocked. Giggy (talk) 08:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Why does this cast a shade of doubt? Democracy comes from the Greek "rule by the people", and since the US government doesn't go on a "power to the people" basis, and does not exist to carry out the demands, requests, and needs of the people, it is not a democracy. It's an imperial plutocracy. The govermnent conquers, expands, colonizes, and pursues aggression, and serves only the interests of itself and big business. Also, we are not en.wp. I've an active sock there, but I don't want to use it to change the info as it would be obvious who it is. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad you did this change, I did reword it, but it still sounded clunky. Yours is better :) Thanks for your help in this too! Kennedy (talk) 10:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Always welcome. Giggy (talk) 10:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Oklahoma PVGA
changeHi Giggy. Just a quick word to say that I was pretty gutted to see that you promoted Oklahoma despite the wealth of outstanding issues which had not been attended to. I know it met the criteria but this is, once again, another example of what's wrong with PVGA, having quantitative pass criteria like 7 days, 80%, at least six votes. As it stands, the article has many breaches of the manual of style, has reference problems and a number of grammatical issues. I do not believe it is part of best work and seeing it on the mainpage without these mistakes being corrected would be heavily detrimental to what we're trying to achieve here. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi TRM (good to hear from you).
- Yes, PVGA has issues and needs a better system, or some improvements. But I'm not sure about delaying stuff on there to try and make a point as to the change in system needed. Not suggesting any ulterior motives on your part, just saying...
- As for this one, it still has a while before it appears on the Main Page. I've pinged CPacker, and I'll gladly help out in its cleanup too. Hopefully we can get it to the best possible standards before then.
- In other news, thanks for the comments on my PVGA. Hope you're well. Giggy (talk) 08:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, no worries. I wasn't expecting anyone to make a point really. I've tried to bring this up at Simple talk - in my opinion if someone has spent a lot of time coming up with comments, they should at least be responded to before a PVGA is closed. However, as I said, that is my opinion and not part of the PVGA guidelines. I live in the hope we can improve the system slowly...! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, I agree with you fully. The enwp system generally works well. Any good ideas on how to slowly move things in that direction? Giggy (talk) 09:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, no worries. I wasn't expecting anyone to make a point really. I've tried to bring this up at Simple talk - in my opinion if someone has spent a lot of time coming up with comments, they should at least be responded to before a PVGA is closed. However, as I said, that is my opinion and not part of the PVGA guidelines. I live in the hope we can improve the system slowly...! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Chilli Peppers
changeHi, I'm new to simple (old on en) and have just learned about the nomination. If you put it up for nom again, I'll join the discussion. Thanks! :-) 17:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's still up at the WP:PVGA if you're interested? Also, Giggy, Eptalon has revealed something of interest - you can vote for you own PVGA, in which case I suggest you do so. Then all you need is another support or even (curiously) an oppose, and you'll meet the criteria for promotion. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- fr33kman; thanks! TRM: Heh. Would now be a bad time to say that's a rather silly rule? Anyway, after a nine day week it now has 6 votes. Giggy (talk) 01:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and any time is fine by me ;-) fr33kman t - c 04:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- fr33kman; thanks! TRM: Heh. Would now be a bad time to say that's a rather silly rule? Anyway, after a nine day week it now has 6 votes. Giggy (talk) 01:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
You got a VGA. I ignored all rules (although I couldn't find any rules) and promoted it. Great work. Onto the next project dude. Keep me in the loop. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Cheers. I'm sure I could find some rules you broke if you really wanted me to! I'll keep you posted... you need to write some more VGAs too ;-) Giggy (talk) 23:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Rock music WikiProject. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks! --Fell on Black Days (talk) 15:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- It, um, appears to have been deleted. Anyway, I'm not big on WProjects... I just work on the articles myself and ask for help when needed. But thanks anyway. Giggy (talk) 00:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thats okay oh and its not deleted was just moved to a different name. --Fell on Black Days (talk) 15:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Stalin
changeHiya, you have to admit, it was funny. I've never heard the term "destalinization" before, nearly swallowed my candy whole! :-) Ah those wacky vandals ... fr33kman t - c 00:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- It was not vandalism, except maybe the removal of 1953. There is an actual thing called en:Destalinization and it was the process of reversing Stalin's terrorism (gulags, Glavlit, etc.) that Krushchev launched when he was in power. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 00:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Whilst I care not for your political opinions (and have told you as such before... so please keep them off my talk page), I have made the adjustments. Thanks for pointing that out. Giggy (talk) 00:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Did you consider that political opinion?— Jonas Rand · (talk) 00:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I care not for your opinion on "Stalin's terrorism". Giggy (talk) 01:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Did you consider that political opinion?— Jonas Rand · (talk) 00:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Whilst I care not for your political opinions (and have told you as such before... so please keep them off my talk page), I have made the adjustments. Thanks for pointing that out. Giggy (talk) 00:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I found this one quite funny too... and almost left it before realising what it actually said! Giggy (talk) 00:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. Proves why automated tools are sometimes handy. Better pattern matching than organic eyes, at least for text. :-) I hang around the Recent IP edits page on en: with Lupin's tool and you wouldn't believe what makes it past the automated tools though. fr33kman t - c 01:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
category
changeYa it was decided on the talk page to change them to simply American. Here is the link to the section --CPacker (talk) 00:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Aah, OK, thanks. Giggy (talk) 00:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem thanks for asking--CPacker (talk) 00:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Sniper good article proposal
changehere. I know you commented on the other PGA on the page, so hopefully I can get some commentary on this one. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 05:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Rollback? admin?
changeHiya, how did you "revert" this edit? I didn't think rollback was on yet? fr33kman t - c 21:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Comments
changeGiggy, just moved your comments on Halo 3 to the talkpage, after I was somewhat ticked off by American Eagle with the sniper comments..... hope that's okay with you. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Shrug. Begs the question of what the PGA page is for. Giggy (talk) 09:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
changeSpam
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Just a note to say thanks, Giggy, for your comments and vote in my RFA which closed as successful with 17 supports and no opposes. I am quite impressed with the level of support, and I promise to do my best as an administrator. Thanks again, Kennedy (talk) 10:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC) |
Vote for president
changeHi Giggy, you are right that the president vote does not belong on the simple talk page but when you remove anything you should explain it to the person who created it. If the person does not understand and does not hear from you they may try to protect what they have created (it wasn't vandalism). So, it is as important that this person understands that WP:Simple talk is for topics related to the wiki as it is to correct them. G Luck ~ R.T.G 03:07, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would hope the purpose of the ST page could be gathered by reading its header. Giggy (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)