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Bold claim/neutral article?
What's neutral about an article that treats people's claims that they are being discriminated against as undebatable?...I don't think that anyone in favor of policies transgender activists complain about thinks those policies are a matter of discrimination against people rather than equal application of standards to all people.--12.144.5.2 (talk) 00:17, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't believe for a single instant that it's within anyone's bounds to argue that all people against transsexualism believe in what you added to the article (that is very firmly not a fact). While I see this as an important point to note in the article - that some people disagree with how it's acceptance should be pushed - I neither find the wording of the addition neutral nor sourced. Please tread a little more carefully with a topic of this nature. Hiàn (talk) 00:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- There is nothing neutral about the article as long as it implies outright that to view acceptance of transsexualism negatively is necessarily to be prejudiced against people rather than to disagree about practices.How would you word acknowledgement that people disagree about this neutrally?--12.144.5.2 (talk) 00:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's in my place to decide that, considering I'm not keen on getting involved in a topic like this. I would start at least, with an acknowledgement that certain people disagree over these practices, and with a reliable, third-party source. Hiàn (talk) 00:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- A general statement is more useful than any particular source and any particular source will find itself criticized.(This is one of my biggest beefs with wikiculture:when information is ubiquitous in nature the selection of any specific source to be what is cited constitutes an act of bias and is entirely a bad thing for the article).From lesbian radfems to religious rightwingers (I am neither!) advocacy for negative policies toward trans identities is based on criticism of practices as unreasonable for any person.A person attached to those practices frequently takes the criticism of their practices as a personal affront but the motives of the critic are not (to the critic at least) rarely what the person taking offense at the criticism asserts.Quoting a radfem or a bible-thumper would in each case invite ascribing those particular details to all critics.--12.144.5.2 (talk) 01:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's in my place to decide that, considering I'm not keen on getting involved in a topic like this. I would start at least, with an acknowledgement that certain people disagree over these practices, and with a reliable, third-party source. Hiàn (talk) 00:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- There is nothing neutral about the article as long as it implies outright that to view acceptance of transsexualism negatively is necessarily to be prejudiced against people rather than to disagree about practices.How would you word acknowledgement that people disagree about this neutrally?--12.144.5.2 (talk) 00:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
user-en-N
For the babel, If I spoke English from birth do I put the EN-N (Native English) template --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Generally that's how the template works, yeah. Hiàn (talk) 17:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yea, I get confused between en-4 and en-n --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Let me know if you have any more questions. Hiàn (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I requested patroller rights at rfpp, do you think I would get declined? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, so I'm not really keen on speculating how things might go for you unfortunately. Hiàn (talk) 17:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I like that pic on your user page, How do you get it? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:58, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- The image in question is File:Tokyo (15642193413).jpg. As for how I found it, I remember poking around Category:Night in Shinjuku at Commons. Hiàn (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I like that pic on your user page, How do you get it? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:58, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, so I'm not really keen on speculating how things might go for you unfortunately. Hiàn (talk) 17:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I requested patroller rights at rfpp, do you think I would get declined? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Let me know if you have any more questions. Hiàn (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yea, I get confused between en-4 and en-n --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Page
I found this
picture, and want to use it in the background of my userpage to make it look like yours? How to do that? is it possible to also use image 2
in my talk page as the background? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Try taking a look at User:Hiàn/userpage and adjusting the code as necessary. If you run into problems, then we can troubleshoot later. Hiàn (talk) 01:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- THESE IMAGES ARE SO FREAKING GOOD I CANNOT DECIDE WHICH ONE TO USE!!! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- 'tis the power of decent colour grading. Hiàn (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- User:Thegooduser/userpage I messed it up... does not work :( --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Try transcluding the page somewhere. It shouldn't show up on that page. Hiàn (talk) 02:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I did it! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well, there we go. Hiàn (talk) 02:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "When you use the thumbnail and not the image... --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well, there we go. Hiàn (talk) 02:20, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I did it! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Try transcluding the page somewhere. It shouldn't show up on that page. Hiàn (talk) 02:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- User:Thegooduser/userpage I messed it up... does not work :( --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- 'tis the power of decent colour grading. Hiàn (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- THESE IMAGES ARE SO FREAKING GOOD I CANNOT DECIDE WHICH ONE TO USE!!! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
"Japanese squirrels live on the main island of Honshu, Japan. They are locally extinct in Hokkaido"
If you can find a source for it, that would be great. Making a dyk for this --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'll keep an eye out for one. Hiàn (talk) 00:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: I'm unable to find any scholarly articles that describe what you've quoted above. Other than a very brief mention in a decade-old paper, I'm afraid there are no English-language sources of use I could find. Hiàn (talk) 00:50, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Where is that decade old paper? If it's Japanese I can understand basic hiragana (such as shi, no, tsu, etc) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Check your email. I've sent you a link to the PDF. I didn't bother with the Japanese language sources (my Japanese is ridiculously rusty, and I don't suppose you know academic kanji) though I'm sure there may be something of use there. Hiàn (talk) 00:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- link timed out, can you give me a screenshot of the pdf/link? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, should've guessed that would've happened. This should be the proper link. Hiàn (talk) 01:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Is that article not a reliable source? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- It gives solely a passing mention without an explanation for the lack of S. lis in Hokkaidō and thus does not prove the species went locally extinct there - only that it cannot be found there. Hiàn (talk) 01:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah. Do you have access to The Wikipedia Library --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- I don't, unfortunately. Hiàn (talk) 01:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah. Do you have access to The Wikipedia Library --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- It gives solely a passing mention without an explanation for the lack of S. lis in Hokkaidō and thus does not prove the species went locally extinct there - only that it cannot be found there. Hiàn (talk) 01:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Is that article not a reliable source? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, should've guessed that would've happened. This should be the proper link. Hiàn (talk) 01:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- link timed out, can you give me a screenshot of the pdf/link? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Check your email. I've sent you a link to the PDF. I didn't bother with the Japanese language sources (my Japanese is ridiculously rusty, and I don't suppose you know academic kanji) though I'm sure there may be something of use there. Hiàn (talk) 00:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Where is that decade old paper? If it's Japanese I can understand basic hiragana (such as shi, no, tsu, etc) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: I'm unable to find any scholarly articles that describe what you've quoted above. Other than a very brief mention in a decade-old paper, I'm afraid there are no English-language sources of use I could find. Hiàn (talk) 00:50, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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found this one haven't read through all of it yet --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- It does not assert that S. lis is locally extinct in Hokkaidō. Truthfully, TGU, I suggest you drop this. I've rejected all the English language sources on the first five pages of the link I sent you. Hiàn (talk) 01:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- yea, Gonna Ditch this, and do a dyk on something else. thanks for your help though. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Let me know if you need anything else. Hiàn (talk) 01:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- You speak hiragana? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:23, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- I can read all hiragana + most katakana + the kanji that have similar meanings in Chinese. Hiàn (talk) 01:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ri and Ro and mu are the hardest to remember? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well it takes practice. Keep at it and you'll eventually get it. Hiàn (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- For some reason When I click on "show any page" it's mostly Wikipedia Japanese Related Articles strange --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well it takes practice. Keep at it and you'll eventually get it. Hiàn (talk) 01:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ri and Ro and mu are the hardest to remember? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- I can read all hiragana + most katakana + the kanji that have similar meanings in Chinese. Hiàn (talk) 01:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- You speak hiragana? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:23, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Let me know if you need anything else. Hiàn (talk) 01:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- yea, Gonna Ditch this, and do a dyk on something else. thanks for your help though. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Chishima Islands dispute
should it just be 'geo-stub" instead of "Japan stub" to keep it neutral?--Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Taking a look. Hiàn (talk) 02:05, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Numbering fix on RFA
There's another way I've seen it done, but that worked, so thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 05:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ah perfect. Hiàn (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
The Original Barnstar | ||
Hello, nice to meet you, This is for your valuable efforts for contributing to Wikipedia. --Eyatu Ben (talk) 08:15, 21 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you @Eyatu Ben: I appreciate it :-) Hiàn (talk) 14:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not at all @Hiàn: , --Eyatu Ben (talk) 12:41, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Loreen
how to fix the date error here? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:04, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like the template wasn't a fan of 01 being used instead of 1 as a day value. Hiàn (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- ah. is there a page that teaches how to fix these? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Try en:Help:Citation Style 1 for general cite fixes and en:MOS:DATEFORMAT for the more nuanced date bits. Hiàn (talk) 21:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, (or as I should say Thank You Simple English Wikipedia Admin)! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not so soon lol. Hiàn (talk) 21:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, (or as I should say Thank You Simple English Wikipedia Admin)! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Try en:Help:Citation Style 1 for general cite fixes and en:MOS:DATEFORMAT for the more nuanced date bits. Hiàn (talk) 21:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- ah. is there a page that teaches how to fix these? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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Well now you're an admin! :-D --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
After reverting vandalism
When you revert vandalism, please be sure to leave a warning for the person who did the vandalism. If you had left warnings for user Moneyballer123 for each of the reverts you did on his changes, we could have blocked him by now as a vandalism-only account. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that Auntof6. In hindsight I should've probably left a higher-tiered warning, but I'll note that the reverts were done all at once and I didn't find it constructive to (1) put multiple warnings at once nor (2) escalate immediately to uw-4. Hiàn (talk) 04:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Leavng the lower-level warning was good, and leaving multiple warnings would be fine. Leaving a level 3 or 4 warning to start doesn't give the user as much time to see that they need to stop what they're doing. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
ref
did I do it right? [1] --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Definitely looks like an improvement. Just try to make sure you don't have too many blank parameters to reduce clutter. Hiàn (talk) 02:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- What do you mean by parameter? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind, know what you mean. I did not make those paramaters --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- What do you mean by parameter? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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Can I get rid of the spaces by backspacing them? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- On the parameters, looks like one of the downsides of the visual editor. As for the spaces, I'm afraid you might have to clarify what you mean by that. Hiàn (talk) 02:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, this is different, parameters in the references? I don't know what you mean by that. I thought you meant spaces --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, should've clarified that. In any case, looks like the fixes are more or less fine. The extra parameters are more of a cosmetic change in the source editor so it's not a massive issue. Hiàn (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- got it --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, should've clarified that. In any case, looks like the fixes are more or less fine. The extra parameters are more of a cosmetic change in the source editor so it's not a massive issue. Hiàn (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, this is different, parameters in the references? I don't know what you mean by that. I thought you meant spaces --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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Does AWB do this for you? how does it work there? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not as familiar with AWB as others; I recall seeing a "general fix" tick box that might do the trick but don't quite remember. Fortunately DJSasso has a few scripts that streamline the process significantly: take a look at User:Djsasso/MOSNUM dates.js and User:Djsasso/Sources.js if you're interested. Hiàn (talk) 02:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
ref
hope i fixed them correctly here --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Looks good. Would be nice to have a consistent date format throughout the article, but that's not too major an issue. Hiàn (talk) 17:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:CS1 errors: dates
How do I remove a article that is fixed from this category? Or does it remove itself? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:48, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Just purge the cache if everything's fixed and it'll remove itself. Hiàn (talk) 22:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Successful RfA
Congratulations of your Successful RfA. Please remember never to delete the Main Page, as many a crat prior me has warned, and even provided a link a time of two out of fun has done. I won't do that to you. Here is your complementary t-shirt, for all your future efforts. -- Enfcer (talk) 03:25, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Enfcer, and cheers to everyone for their support. I look forward to serving you all. Hiàn (talk) 03:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome! Vermont (talk) 03:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:14, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome! Vermont (talk) 03:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats --DannyS712 (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats on successful adminship! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cheers everyone! Hiàn (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats on successful adminship! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations! I hope you enjoy your Admin rights! Arthurfan828 - CHAT 17:04, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
flood flag question
Sometimes I plan the same, to fix cite errors, can flood flag be given for only 10 minutes, if that's how long I plan to do it for in these situations? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:52, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- It's technically possible but generally bad practice to assign for so short a time period. Hiàn (talk)/editing on mobile account. 19:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- What's the minimum period? I don't want to spam recent changes with fixing references, but I probably can't do it for a long period of time --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- There's nothing explicitly defined in policy, but I suggest 1-3 hour runs at a time. Hiàn (talk)/editing on mobile account. 20:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Will it inconvenience you if I were to request 1 hours flood flag? I am Planning to fix the pages Category:CS1 errors: dates --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:04, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- In a bit of a jam since I'm flooding at the moment, but I'd be happy to assign it at a later time when I'm available. Hiàn (talk)/editing on mobile account. 20:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Will it inconvenience you if I were to request 1 hours flood flag? I am Planning to fix the pages Category:CS1 errors: dates --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:04, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- There's nothing explicitly defined in policy, but I suggest 1-3 hour runs at a time. Hiàn (talk)/editing on mobile account. 20:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- What's the minimum period? I don't want to spam recent changes with fixing references, but I probably can't do it for a long period of time --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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Cool Deal. I'll ask again later --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:10, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe I'll ask at Admins Noticeboard --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, probably a better idea. Hiàn (talk)/editing on mobile account. 21:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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(talk page stalker) @Thegooduser: It's also a question of how many changes you're going to make during a given time period. The purpose of the flood flag is to not make things difficult for people who monitor recent changes. You also need to follow the rules of having the flood flag. Among other things, the rules include doing only the approved task while you have the flood flag, even if you have to wait for an admin to remove the flag when you're done. And, as was mentioned, it's best to request the flag at WP:AN instead of on an individual admin's talk page. If you don't have the flag, it's usually OK to make around 100 of the same kind of change without the flag. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
source
if it says 2011 [last update] how do I fix it? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Probably best just to remove the last update bit and put the 2011 in a year param if it isn't already. Hiàn (talk) 02:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
how do you type your username?
How do you put the comma thing on top of the a in your username (I don't know what it's called) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: (talk page stalker) I use Control C Control V. Unless in casual conversation, when I just type "Hian". Naleksuh (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Naleksuh Ah, Sometimes I try to look Hian's username up to ask him a question, and luckly it pops up when I type the letter H, otherwise I'd have a hard time reaching Hian --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, usually don't mind being called Hian, but if you'd like to type the accented A, you can hold the Alt key and type 0224 on the num pad. Hiàn (talk) 18:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Naleksuh Ah, Sometimes I try to look Hian's username up to ask him a question, and luckly it pops up when I type the letter H, otherwise I'd have a hard time reaching Hian --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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thanks --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
recent edit at Together at Home
pleased to be meeting you, you said my edits at Together at Home are incomprehesible, so please give an account of what about them are incomprehesible. 2604:3D08:D180:4500:9532:DB23:A446:E2EE (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello anon. I'll just make a brief list of problematic additions you made:
- "in addition experienced" is redundant
- "is an of" is nonsense
- "based on history event put in an orderly way" is also nonsense
- I'd be inclined to add back the "keep us together" addition, except the pandemic is not called the "Covid-19 1 pandemic 2", but the COVID-19 pandemic
- "virtual 3 concert" is again nonsense
- "virtual 3 united condition" is also nonsense
- "Covid-19 1" is not the name of the disease, it's COVID-19
- I have no clue why Lady Gaga was removed from the creator parameter in the infobox
- Similarly why the country parameter was blanked
- And why the stub template was changed to the default one from the music-stub template
- I'd be happy to elaborate on any concerns you have. Hiàn (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata box here on Simple
I previously raised the idea of Wikidata infoboxes at Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_129#Population_of_infoboxes_from_Wikidata.
Following that I started a draft proposal at User:Bluerasberry/Wikidata box.
We connected a bit at English Wikipedia at en:special:permalink/956000735#On_the_Wikidata_infobox_discussion_@_simple. Let's talk here on Simple now.
I think that the best proposal would be to organize a vote that Simple English Wikipedia participate in mw:Wikidata Bridge. See the call for participants at mw:Topic:Vlrzy9sw6ownhafs, which I think fits simple.
I appreciate your doing anything to help me with this. I think that what I want to do is convert my draft into a list of background links and info for reference, but have the proposal on simple talk stand alone where people can use the background info or not. Also, I think the specific proposal that we should have is participating in the Wikidata Bridge, because that means we get technical support from Wikimedia Deutschland. For social permission, maybe we should cap the first-round deployment to something like 100 instances of infoboxes before proceeding. The arbitrary number does not mean much and individuals may deploy more, but just to set the conversation, I would want people to understand that we can look at this in 100 places and not automatically change tens of thousands of articles. Thoughts?
By the way, I was not expecting Wikidata Bridge to become ready. This was news to me and I thought it was a future fantasy. If it is about to be ready, I think Simple English is a great test case and now is a good time. Thoughts? Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again Bluerasberry. I think that's an excellent idea, and unless you have any objections, I'd like to move forward with a vote within the next month or so. I'll also make some additions to the draft page, hopefully to a suitable state for such a discussion. As I said on enwiki, I think the terms of your initial proposal are fairly reasonable, and the 100 page pilot is probably something the community will back.
- I'm mostly optimistic the pilot will be successful. I know the community isn't keen on massive changes so wider integration beyond the pilot may be a little difficult (though we can talk then). Hiàn (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Deny
I was told Wikipedia redirects were to be in caps only? Or is that for Wikipedia rules? I'm confused about this... Because Chenzw deleted WP:perm, because it wasn't in caps, so I thought I had to tag that one too, but I'm cool about you decide to do to the redirect --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Actually that makes a lot more sense, now that I think of it. I'm not sure if there's a specific policy related to that specifically so I'll leave it be for now (though any passing admin is free to delete it). Hiàn (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Honest opinion
Can you give me some feedback on how I've been doing on Wikipedia? What should I improve on, and what am I good at? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I think you're a reasonably decent editor here, just with some room to improve. On the positives, I think you're an excellent with anti-vandalism, and you have an enthusiasm for editing a lot of us could probably use. On where to improve, I'd caution you against focusing on areas that just aren't particularly important. Content creation is one of the areas I'd ideally like to see you do more work in - as important as things like anti-vandalism or stub tagging are, having active article writers/expanders are just as (if not more) important to the functioning of this project. Article writers that are familiar with the way things work here are some of our biggest assets. Asides from that, I'm also a little concerned you're asking too many questions. That isn't to say you shouldn't ask when you're having trouble with something, or that questions are necessarily bad, it's just that it can be a bit much for some people. Just keep an eye on the number of times you're contacting someone, and think about whether your question is a concern that you can solve by yourself, and I think it'll be easy to resolve this.
- These are just opinions. I don't think these are hard guidelines that you absolutely must follow; you're free to take this advice with a grain of salt. Hiàn (talk) 03:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hiàn, thank you, I appreciate your feedback! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Y the article is deleted ?
Aditya belnekar Suraj rajvardham07 (talk) 03:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Suraj rajvardham07: My reading of the article was that it wasn't suitable for inclusion here as there was both no credible claim of notability and it was a blatantly promotional spam article. Hiàn (talk) 04:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- It looks like you were blocked in Wikidata for creating similar promotional pages so I suggest you stop doing that here because that may lead to block here too.-BRP ever 04:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Why the article is deleted?
Hello Respected Sir/Madam,
I hope you are well . I saw that you deleted Yash’s wikipedia page , i think he is notable enough for being on Wikipedia. Please check and if possible restore the page. Shonnapotter (talk) 03:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Shonnapotter: Absolutely not. The article was blatant spam. Don't recreate it - it will be deleted again. Hiàn (talk) 15:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Cantonese
I can speak and talk in Cantonese (up to a grade 7-8 level), but can't read or write it, is there a babel userbox for that? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've never bothered creating the set of Babel templates for Cantonese, but if you're interested, then take a look at en:Category:User templates yue and bring them over. Hiàn (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
did i do it right
did i do it correctly? I changed / to - --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me. Hiàn (talk) 00:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- how about this one? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- You seem to have gotten the hang of it. No need to check in. Hiàn (talk) 16:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- how about this one? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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I just wanted to make sure, I didn't want to get reverted. I now use the script (which I forgot I had) I won't check in anymore unless I can't fix the problem by script or after reading the Help pages. thank you. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
LTA
Could you please block the LTA who posted on the AN so it can be reverted. IWI (chat) 17:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Which LTA is this? Hiàn (talk) 17:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The one who has been editing ""blank" has been vandalised" recently. They outed them self as the LTA in the comment. IWI (chat) 17:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done now, sorry for the delay. Hiàn (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- That's ok. Thanks Hiàn. IWI (chat) 17:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done now, sorry for the delay. Hiàn (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The one who has been editing ""blank" has been vandalised" recently. They outed them self as the LTA in the comment. IWI (chat) 17:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Japanese
For the Ja-1 template is it for elementary level? I am pretty rusty at it, but understand/read most words in Hiragana, like "bento" "Konichiwa" "emoji", etc. Is me using the ja-1 template okay? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- I guess that'd work well enough. Hiàn (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Yūrei is a ghost, article seems like a hoax --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Deleted. Next time, please put an QD tag on it instead of going to individual sysops. Hiàn (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The article was actually made months ago, I put it on my watchlist, to see if anyone would change it, then forgot about it until I saw it in my watchlist today. Apologies for failing to use the qd tag --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Edit Reversion
I understand the category change, but can you explain to me how "marque" is a "complex" word when it is commonly used and understood by the majority of English-speaking and -understanding people?
Grady240105 (talk) 14:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- I think you're confusing things. If a word is commonly used, it is decidedly not automatically simple. Marque is by no means simple compared to the previously used "brand" - and I'd entirely dispute the notion that it is "commonly used" and that it is "understood" by this majority you speak of. If we look at the BNC English lists by spoken frequency, we find "brand" is placed on the third list, whereas "marque" is placed on the thirteenth (and this distinction is significant). Furthermore, if we were to look at the Corpus of Contemporary American English, we'd find that the usage for brand is higher than marque by a significant margin (30,000 as opposed to 400).
- If the simplicity of a word is in question, and we have another word that is both more frequently used and arguably simpler, it is best practice to use the latter one. Hiàn (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello
It was in the under process draft how you have deleted it Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Revert it
Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Stop ur non sense Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Spam is not permitted here. Hiàn (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Fringe theory at Mongoloid and in other Wikis
Thank you for your nice welcome message. I'm afraid, I didn't come here to stay but for a special reason. Since you are an administrator and I really don't know where to share that problem, let me tell you: Three maps - original research based on unreliable sources - have been inserted into many race-related articles on various Wikis. In some cases, they were inserted by Koji979 (talk · contribs), for example in Mongolian, in Yakut (a small language in northern Russia), and in Persian, but also here at simple English, and in the French, and Spanish Wikipedias. To some other Wikipedias, they have been added by IPs.
The maps are connected to the theory that humanity is divided into three races (i.e. Mongoloid, Caucasian, Negroid) and claim to be based on a study by Yuan et al. 2019 and other studies. Yuan et al. is available here, it is not peer-reviewed. The maps are to be found at commons: Mongoloid, Negroid, and Causasoid.
I deleted those maps here and in the French, Spanish and Italian Wikis, but I won't touch Wikis where I don't know even a single word of the language. In most cases I got reverted, sometimes by IPs, sometimes by Koji979. I started a discussion, both at fr:Asiatique (humain) and here at Mongoloid (race) and at Koji979's talk pages here and in French. The discussion that took place here was pretty constructive, Talk:Mongoloid (race) (He didn't answer in French). The problem I see is that those pseudo-scientific maps are still remaining in many Wikis, and will probably remain for years in some of the smaller ones (like Yakut, Persian, Swedish). Rsk6400 (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400: Thank you for the tip-off. I see the simplewiki situation appears to be resolved, so I won't action anything here. As for the maps, I've filed a deletion request at Commons for the three you've mentioned above. If the request is successful, all the maps will be removed from local wikis (though a sufficient resolution could take anywhere from one week to several years). I invite you to comment there as I'm not sufficiently knowledgable of the topic beyond knowing that it is pseudo-science. Hiàn (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Rsk6400 (talk) 19:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- There seem to be some interesting new developments (sockpuppetry), see the comment of Berean_Hunter at the bottom of the deletion discussion. --Rsk6400 (talk) 14:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- I suppose it looks like the user won't be able to update the maps now. Hiàn (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi
Can you add my article on my talk page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gutmansjoh (talk • contribs)
- I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I have, in the meanwhile, left a reply to the email you sent me. Hiàn (talk) 19:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Continuation to "Fringe theory ..."
The deletion discussion there has been finally closed and the files have been deleted. There was a related discussion Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Average_East-Eurasian_ancestry_(Mongoloid).png, which was even more interesting (more suspense than a good movie, and I also learned a lot about how Commons works), and also led to the files being deleted.
BTW: I told you I'm not here to stay. I think I changed my mind. ;-) --Rsk6400 (talk) 07:16, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- All's well that end's well. There's a lot of work to be done at Commons, but thanks to your diligence the load just got a bit lighter. :-)
- Glad to have you on board here. Contributors like you are very valuable. :P Hiàn (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Simple Question
Hello User:Hiàn. I have a question, Are you an admin? I am just asking cause I saw you deleted a page while I was looking at recent changes pages. Thank you, --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Hamuyi: I am indeed an admin here. Hiàn (talk) 18:52, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. But what was you doing? Was that a users talk page you deleted I am really confused.
- --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you look at the deletion reason (it's like an edit summary), you should see that I mentioned it was advertising, which is against our rules here. Hiàn (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks. That is a great tip. If I was to encounter I person I think is new to this wikipedia and I want to send them a message on there talk page but they don't have one how do I make a there talk page and make a a topic? --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you look at the deletion reason (it's like an edit summary), you should see that I mentioned it was advertising, which is against our rules here. Hiàn (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. User:Hiàn :) --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 19:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia Asian Month 2020
Hi WAM organizers and participants!
Hope you are all doing well! Now is the time to sign up for Wikipedia Asian Month 2020, which will take place in this November.
For organizers:
Here are the basic guidance and regulations for organizers. Please remember to:
- use Fountain tool (you can find the usage guidance easily on meta page), or else you and your participants’ will not be able to receive the prize from WAM team.
- Add your language projects and organizer list to the meta page before October 29th, 2020.
- Inform your community members WAM 2020 is coming soon!!!
- If you want WAM team to share your event information on Facebook / twitter, or you want to share your WAM experience/ achievements on our blog, feel free to send an email to info@asianmonth.wiki or PM us via facebook.
If you want to hold a thematic event that is related to WAM, a.k.a. WAM sub-contest. The process is the same as the language one.
For participants:
Here are the event regulations and Q&A information. Just join us! Let’s edit articles and win the prizes!
Here are some updates from WAM team:
- Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, this year we hope all the Edit-a-thons are online not physical ones.
- The international postal systems are not stable enough at the moment, WAM team have decided to send all the qualified participants/ organizers extra digital postcards/ certifications. (You will still get the paper ones!)
- Our team has created a meta page so that everyone tracking the progress and the delivery status.
If you have any suggestions or thoughts, feel free to reach out the WAM team via emailing info@asianmonth.wiki or discuss on the meta talk page. If it’s urgent, please contact the leader directly (jamie@asianmonth.wiki).
Hope you all have fun in Wikipedia Asian Month 2020
Sincerely yours,
Wikipedia Asian Month International Team 2020.10Hello, hope you are well, this can well be submitted as WP:WAM article if you want, thanks for the nice work. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:11, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Camouflaged Mirage. That is indeed my plan, once I get past the 3000 character threshold. Thanks for checking in, Hiàn (talk) 14:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Happy editing, a note is 300 words + 3000 bytes, so now this one meets the requirements already. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Perfect, I've submitted that. Hiàn (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for contributing. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Perfect, I've submitted that. Hiàn (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Happy editing, a note is 300 words + 3000 bytes, so now this one meets the requirements already. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Handover of Hong Kong
Are you creating that for WAM? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, that is my plan. Hiàn (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see something that can be fixed in the article, but I've been told I'm not allowed to touch it, since it's for WAM --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't really see an issue with you fixing whatever issue you found in the article. If there's something in the organiser guidelines that stops you from editing, then just be patient. I'll be finished with the article within the next few days. Hiàn (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, season greetings, I just happened to see this, any intention of submission? Or do you have other articles that need judging, the dateline for judging will be up by Dec 31, so if there is any do let me know ASAP. Thanks for participating in WAM this year too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- cc @つがる:. (reason do see https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=1851235) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, both of you. I had some IRL constraints that limited my time so unfortunately Sensou-ji will be my only submission. Hiàn (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- It's alright, thanks for your contributions still. When we finalize the entire score, there will be formal thanks but this is in advance :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, both of you. I had some IRL constraints that limited my time so unfortunately Sensou-ji will be my only submission. Hiàn (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- cc @つがる:. (reason do see https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=1851235) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, season greetings, I just happened to see this, any intention of submission? Or do you have other articles that need judging, the dateline for judging will be up by Dec 31, so if there is any do let me know ASAP. Thanks for participating in WAM this year too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't really see an issue with you fixing whatever issue you found in the article. If there's something in the organiser guidelines that stops you from editing, then just be patient. I'll be finished with the article within the next few days. Hiàn (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see something that can be fixed in the article, but I've been told I'm not allowed to touch it, since it's for WAM --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)