how do you type your username?Edit

How do you put the comma thing on top of the a in your username (I don't know what it's called) --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: (talk page stalker) I use Control C Control V. Unless in casual conversation, when I just type "Hian". Naleksuh (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh Ah, Sometimes I try to look Hian's username up to ask him a question, and luckly it pops up when I type the letter H, otherwise I'd have a hard time reaching Hian --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, usually don't mind being called Hian, but if you'd like to type the accented A, you can hold the Alt key and type 0224 on the num pad. Hiàn (talk) 18:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

recent edit at Together at HomeEdit

pleased to be meeting you, you said my edits at Together at Home are incomprehesible, so please give an account of what about them are incomprehesible. 2604:3D08:D180:4500:9532:DB23:A446:E2EE (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello anon. I'll just make a brief list of problematic additions you made:
  • "in addition experienced" is redundant
  • "is an of" is nonsense
  • "based on history event put in an orderly way" is also nonsense
  • I'd be inclined to add back the "keep us together" addition, except the pandemic is not called the "Covid-19 1 pandemic 2", but the COVID-19 pandemic
  • "virtual 3 concert" is again nonsense
  • "virtual 3 united condition" is also nonsense
  • "Covid-19 1" is not the name of the disease, it's COVID-19
  • I have no clue why Lady Gaga was removed from the creator parameter in the infobox
  • Similarly why the country parameter was blanked
  • And why the stub template was changed to the default one from the music-stub template
I'd be happy to elaborate on any concerns you have. Hiàn (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata box here on SimpleEdit

I previously raised the idea of Wikidata infoboxes at Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_129#Population_of_infoboxes_from_Wikidata.

Following that I started a draft proposal at User:Bluerasberry/Wikidata box.

We connected a bit at English Wikipedia at en:special:permalink/956000735#On_the_Wikidata_infobox_discussion_@_simple. Let's talk here on Simple now.

I think that the best proposal would be to organize a vote that Simple English Wikipedia participate in mw:Wikidata Bridge. See the call for participants at mw:Topic:Vlrzy9sw6ownhafs, which I think fits simple.

I appreciate your doing anything to help me with this. I think that what I want to do is convert my draft into a list of background links and info for reference, but have the proposal on simple talk stand alone where people can use the background info or not. Also, I think the specific proposal that we should have is participating in the Wikidata Bridge, because that means we get technical support from Wikimedia Deutschland. For social permission, maybe we should cap the first-round deployment to something like 100 instances of infoboxes before proceeding. The arbitrary number does not mean much and individuals may deploy more, but just to set the conversation, I would want people to understand that we can look at this in 100 places and not automatically change tens of thousands of articles. Thoughts?

By the way, I was not expecting Wikidata Bridge to become ready. This was news to me and I thought it was a future fantasy. If it is about to be ready, I think Simple English is a great test case and now is a good time. Thoughts? Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi again Bluerasberry. I think that's an excellent idea, and unless you have any objections, I'd like to move forward with a vote within the next month or so. I'll also make some additions to the draft page, hopefully to a suitable state for such a discussion. As I said on enwiki, I think the terms of your initial proposal are fairly reasonable, and the 100 page pilot is probably something the community will back.
I'm mostly optimistic the pilot will be successful. I know the community isn't keen on massive changes so wider integration beyond the pilot may be a little difficult (though we can talk then). Hiàn (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


I was told Wikipedia redirects were to be in caps only? Or is that for Wikipedia rules? I'm confused about this... Because Chenzw deleted WP:perm, because it wasn't in caps, so I thought I had to tag that one too, but I'm cool about you decide to do to the redirect --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually that makes a lot more sense, now that I think of it. I'm not sure if there's a specific policy related to that specifically so I'll leave it be for now (though any passing admin is free to delete it). Hiàn (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Honest opinionEdit

Can you give me some feedback on how I've been doing on Wikipedia? What should I improve on, and what am I good at? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I think you're a reasonably decent editor here, just with some room to improve. On the positives, I think you're an excellent with anti-vandalism, and you have an enthusiasm for editing a lot of us could probably use. On where to improve, I'd caution you against focusing on areas that just aren't particularly important. Content creation is one of the areas I'd ideally like to see you do more work in - as important as things like anti-vandalism or stub tagging are, having active article writers/expanders are just as (if not more) important to the functioning of this project. Article writers that are familiar with the way things work here are some of our biggest assets. Asides from that, I'm also a little concerned you're asking too many questions. That isn't to say you shouldn't ask when you're having trouble with something, or that questions are necessarily bad, it's just that it can be a bit much for some people. Just keep an eye on the number of times you're contacting someone, and think about whether your question is a concern that you can solve by yourself, and I think it'll be easy to resolve this.
These are just opinions. I don't think these are hard guidelines that you absolutely must follow; you're free to take this advice with a grain of salt. Hiàn (talk) 03:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Hiàn, thank you, I appreciate your feedback! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Y the article is deleted ?Edit

Aditya belnekar Suraj rajvardham07 (talk) 03:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Suraj rajvardham07: My reading of the article was that it wasn't suitable for inclusion here as there was both no credible claim of notability and it was a blatantly promotional spam article. Hiàn (talk) 04:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
It looks like you were blocked in Wikidata for creating similar promotional pages so I suggest you stop doing that here because that may lead to block here too.-BRP ever 04:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Why the article is deleted?Edit

Hello Respected Sir/Madam,

I hope you are well . I saw that you deleted Yash’s wikipedia page , i think he is notable enough for being on Wikipedia. Please check and if possible restore the page. Shonnapotter (talk) 03:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Shonnapotter: Absolutely not. The article was blatant spam. Don't recreate it - it will be deleted again. Hiàn (talk) 15:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


I can speak and talk in Cantonese (up to a grade 7-8 level), but can't read or write it, is there a babel userbox for that? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I've never bothered creating the set of Babel templates for Cantonese, but if you're interested, then take a look at en:Category:User templates yue and bring them over. Hiàn (talk) 22:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

did i do it rightEdit

did i do it correctly? I changed / to - --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Hiàn (talk) 00:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
how about this one? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
You seem to have gotten the hang of it. No need to check in. Hiàn (talk) 16:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I just wanted to make sure, I didn't want to get reverted. I now use the script (which I forgot I had) I won't check in anymore unless I can't fix the problem by script or after reading the Help pages. thank you. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


Could you please block the LTA who posted on the AN so it can be reverted. IWI (chat) 17:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Which LTA is this? Hiàn (talk) 17:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
The one who has been editing ""blank" has been vandalised" recently. They outed them self as the LTA in the comment. IWI (chat) 17:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Done now, sorry for the delay. Hiàn (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
That's ok. Thanks Hiàn. IWI (chat) 17:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


For the Ja-1 template is it for elementary level? I am pretty rusty at it, but understand/read most words in Hiragana, like "bento" "Konichiwa" "emoji", etc. Is me using the ja-1 template okay? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 17:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I guess that'd work well enough. Hiàn (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


Yūrei is a ghost, article seems like a hoax --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Deleted. Next time, please put an QD tag on it instead of going to individual sysops. Hiàn (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
The article was actually made months ago, I put it on my watchlist, to see if anyone would change it, then forgot about it until I saw it in my watchlist today. Apologies for failing to use the qd tag --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit ReversionEdit

I understand the category change, but can you explain to me how "marque" is a "complex" word when it is commonly used and understood by the majority of English-speaking and -understanding people?

Grady240105 (talk) 14:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I think you're confusing things. If a word is commonly used, it is decidedly not automatically simple. Marque is by no means simple compared to the previously used "brand" - and I'd entirely dispute the notion that it is "commonly used" and that it is "understood" by this majority you speak of. If we look at the BNC English lists by spoken frequency, we find "brand" is placed on the third list, whereas "marque" is placed on the thirteenth (and this distinction is significant). Furthermore, if we were to look at the Corpus of Contemporary American English, we'd find that the usage for brand is higher than marque by a significant margin (30,000 as opposed to 400).
If the simplicity of a word is in question, and we have another word that is both more frequently used and arguably simpler, it is best practice to use the latter one. Hiàn (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


It was in the under process draft how you have deleted it Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Revert it

Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Stop ur non sense Unique Workshop (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Spam is not permitted here. Hiàn (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Fringe theory at Mongoloid and in other WikisEdit

Thank you for your nice welcome message. I'm afraid, I didn't come here to stay but for a special reason. Since you are an administrator and I really don't know where to share that problem, let me tell you: Three maps - original research based on unreliable sources - have been inserted into many race-related articles on various Wikis. In some cases, they were inserted by Koji979 (talk · contribs), for example in Mongolian, in Yakut (a small language in northern Russia), and in Persian, but also here at simple English, and in the French, and Spanish Wikipedias. To some other Wikipedias, they have been added by IPs.

The maps are connected to the theory that humanity is divided into three races (i.e. Mongoloid, Caucasian, Negroid) and claim to be based on a study by Yuan et al. 2019 and other studies. Yuan et al. is available here, it is not peer-reviewed. The maps are to be found at commons: Mongoloid, Negroid, and Causasoid.

I deleted those maps here and in the French, Spanish and Italian Wikis, but I won't touch Wikis where I don't know even a single word of the language. In most cases I got reverted, sometimes by IPs, sometimes by Koji979. I started a discussion, both at fr:Asiatique (humain) and here at Mongoloid (race) and at Koji979's talk pages here and in French. The discussion that took place here was pretty constructive, Talk:Mongoloid (race) (He didn't answer in French). The problem I see is that those pseudo-scientific maps are still remaining in many Wikis, and will probably remain for years in some of the smaller ones (like Yakut, Persian, Swedish). Rsk6400 (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rsk6400: Thank you for the tip-off. I see the simplewiki situation appears to be resolved, so I won't action anything here. As for the maps, I've filed a deletion request at Commons for the three you've mentioned above. If the request is successful, all the maps will be removed from local wikis (though a sufficient resolution could take anywhere from one week to several years). I invite you to comment there as I'm not sufficiently knowledgable of the topic beyond knowing that it is pseudo-science. Hiàn (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Rsk6400 (talk) 19:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
There seem to be some interesting new developments (sockpuppetry), see the comment of Berean_Hunter at the bottom of the deletion discussion. --Rsk6400 (talk) 14:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I suppose it looks like the user won't be able to update the maps now. Hiàn (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


Can you add my article on my talk page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gutmansjoh (talkcontribs)

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I have, in the meanwhile, left a reply to the email you sent me. Hiàn (talk) 19:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Continuation to "Fringe theory ..."Edit

The deletion discussion there has been finally closed and the files have been deleted. There was a related discussion Commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Average_East-Eurasian_ancestry_(Mongoloid).png, which was even more interesting (more suspense than a good movie, and I also learned a lot about how Commons works), and also led to the files being deleted.

BTW: I told you I'm not here to stay. I think I changed my mind. ;-) --Rsk6400 (talk) 07:16, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

All's well that end's well. There's a lot of work to be done at Commons, but thanks to your diligence the load just got a bit lighter. :-)
Glad to have you on board here. Contributors like you are very valuable. :P Hiàn (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Simple QuestionEdit

Hello User:Hiàn. I have a question, Are you an admin? I am just asking cause I saw you deleted a page while I was looking at recent changes pages. Thank you, --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Hamuyi: I am indeed an admin here. Hiàn (talk) 18:52, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. But what was you doing? Was that a users talk page you deleted I am really confused.
--Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
If you look at the deletion reason (it's like an edit summary), you should see that I mentioned it was advertising, which is against our rules here. Hiàn (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh, thanks. That is a great tip. If I was to encounter I person I think is new to this wikipedia and I want to send them a message on there talk page but they don't have one how do I make a there talk page and make a a topic? --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 18:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
You can do it the same way as enwiki, but I don't think that should be a major concern for you. Just work on familiarising yourself with Simple (and Simple's rules) first. Hiàn (talk)

Ok, thank you. User:Hiàn :) --Hamuyi (click for userpage) (talk (click for talkpage) 19:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2020Edit

Hi WAM organizers and participants!

Hope you are all doing well! Now is the time to sign up for Wikipedia Asian Month 2020, which will take place in this November.

For organizers:

Here are the basic guidance and regulations for organizers. Please remember to:

  1. use Fountain tool (you can find the usage guidance easily on meta page), or else you and your participants’ will not be able to receive the prize from WAM team.
  2. Add your language projects and organizer list to the meta page before October 29th, 2020.
  3. Inform your community members WAM 2020 is coming soon!!!
  4. If you want WAM team to share your event information on Facebook / twitter, or you want to share your WAM experience/ achievements on our blog, feel free to send an email to or PM us via facebook.

If you want to hold a thematic event that is related to WAM, a.k.a. WAM sub-contest. The process is the same as the language one.

For participants:

Here are the event regulations and Q&A information. Just join us! Let’s edit articles and win the prizes!

Here are some updates from WAM team:

  1. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, this year we hope all the Edit-a-thons are online not physical ones.
  2. The international postal systems are not stable enough at the moment, WAM team have decided to send all the qualified participants/ organizers extra digital postcards/ certifications. (You will still get the paper ones!)
  3. Our team has created a meta page so that everyone tracking the progress and the delivery status.

If you have any suggestions or thoughts, feel free to reach out the WAM team via emailing or discuss on the meta talk page. If it’s urgent, please contact the leader directly (

Hope you all have fun in Wikipedia Asian Month 2020

Sincerely yours,

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team 2020.10


Hello, hope you are well, this can well be submitted as WP:WAM article if you want, thanks for the nice work. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:11, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Camouflaged Mirage. That is indeed my plan, once I get past the 3000 character threshold. Thanks for checking in, Hiàn (talk) 14:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Happy editing, a note is 300 words + 3000 bytes, so now this one meets the requirements already. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Perfect, I've submitted that. Hiàn (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for contributing. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Handover of Hong KongEdit

Are you creating that for WAM? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that is my plan. Hiàn (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
I see something that can be fixed in the article, but I've been told I'm not allowed to touch it, since it's for WAM --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see an issue with you fixing whatever issue you found in the article. If there's something in the organiser guidelines that stops you from editing, then just be patient. I'll be finished with the article within the next few days. Hiàn (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, season greetings, I just happened to see this, any intention of submission? Or do you have other articles that need judging, the dateline for judging will be up by Dec 31, so if there is any do let me know ASAP. Thanks for participating in WAM this year too. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
cc @つがる:. (reason do see Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that, both of you. I had some IRL constraints that limited my time so unfortunately Sensou-ji will be my only submission. Hiàn (talk) 18:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
It's alright, thanks for your contributions still. When we finalize the entire score, there will be formal thanks but this is in advance :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Hello Hian, thank you for participating in Wikipedia Asian Month 2020. We are grateful for your contributions! I regret to inform you that you failed to submit 4 acceptable pages. Therefore, you are not eligible for the postcard. Do not be disheartened and we are still glad to have you in this competition. It's an annual contest, and we hope you will join us next year as well. Happy New Year and wishing you a good 2021! Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for participating, and happy new year.-BRP ever 13:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again, everyone. Hiàn (talk) 18:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Hian, I've been busy and haven't been able to get back to you, to say Thanks for your participation in WAM! Hope to see you again next year! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)