Talk:Interlingue
Creating a subpage for grammar/Language structure
changeSome time ago, Esperanto was nominated for Good article; it didn't get promoted, as most changs to the article were long ago. Now, there is a separation between Esperanto, which describes the language in General, and some of the social events ("the esperanto movement..") behind it. There also is a page Esperanto language structure which is more about the "structure" and grammar of the language. Depending how much space the "grammar" takes up in the article, we might consider something similar for this article...--Eptalon (talk) 21:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the idea. I am still adding all the information, and from there I am working in order to simplify it. I believe it is still a bit complex in certain places but the basic idea is to have the article divided into three parts: the language history, grammar and literature. I believe that by tackling all these three topics, the article will be comprehensive, which is one of the requirements for very good articles. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 11:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- I know that perhaps comparing with the Esperanto article is a bad idea, since most changes there where 2018/2019, and in essence it hasn't been touched since then. Just keep in mind, that when a section/theme complex seems to grow too big, there's always the option to create a new article with the information, and just put a summary in the main article. The same thing was done with Liberia and History of Liberia (not related to languages though, and both articles much smaller). In that case, it was also possible to solve some POV issues (talking about missionaries being cruel, IIRC)--Eptalon (talk) 12:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- So, if the article has a summary of its history and grammar, with links to other articles and those topics, can it still be chosen as a VGA? --Caro de Segeda (talk) 12:16, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Look at Evolution: There are many sections which are just a summary, and which have a link to a more comprehensive article. When writing such articles, keep your readers in mind: When they look at Interlingue, most people will likely be interersted in the basic ideas, the history of the movement, perhaps the concepts behind the language ("culture/society"). Very few people will likely be interested in the detailed grammar of Interlingue. So for most people, the summary will be enough, those that are interested, will click on the link, and get more information. In the case of the evolution article: there are those that fear for their religious teachings at school, and favor Creationism. There are also those who try to apply natural selection to societies, embrace Social Darwinism, and tell you why their society is at the top. But yes, even for a VGA a summary may be enough.--Eptalon (talk) 12:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- But I'd suggest you finish adding to this article, and in a second step, the sections to be summarized and moved to a different article can be identified...--Eptalon (talk) 12:52, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Look at Evolution: There are many sections which are just a summary, and which have a link to a more comprehensive article. When writing such articles, keep your readers in mind: When they look at Interlingue, most people will likely be interersted in the basic ideas, the history of the movement, perhaps the concepts behind the language ("culture/society"). Very few people will likely be interested in the detailed grammar of Interlingue. So for most people, the summary will be enough, those that are interested, will click on the link, and get more information. In the case of the evolution article: there are those that fear for their religious teachings at school, and favor Creationism. There are also those who try to apply natural selection to societies, embrace Social Darwinism, and tell you why their society is at the top. But yes, even for a VGA a summary may be enough.--Eptalon (talk) 12:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- So, if the article has a summary of its history and grammar, with links to other articles and those topics, can it still be chosen as a VGA? --Caro de Segeda (talk) 12:16, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- I know that perhaps comparing with the Esperanto article is a bad idea, since most changes there where 2018/2019, and in essence it hasn't been touched since then. Just keep in mind, that when a section/theme complex seems to grow too big, there's always the option to create a new article with the information, and just put a summary in the main article. The same thing was done with Liberia and History of Liberia (not related to languages though, and both articles much smaller). In that case, it was also possible to solve some POV issues (talking about missionaries being cruel, IIRC)--Eptalon (talk) 12:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I have finished adding information and I have just strated summarising. I have already moved the grammar to another page, just keeping the basics here. I just have a doubt regarding the tables such as the ones for correlatives and verbs, shall we keep them or we just leave them in the article about the grammar and we delete them from here? --Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Latino sine flexione is interlingua?
changeHello, again I am not a linguist, but I remember that "Latino sine flexione" was later renamed to Interlingua (-a ending, 1920s I think). Does it make sense in this aricle to speak about Latino sine flexione and Interlingua at the same time, or should we just use one of the two terms (probably "Interlingua"). Whoever wants can then read up on it in the article on Interlingua? - As I say, I have no idea if the language was just renamed, or there were other changes as well. Any thoughts?--Eptalon (talk) 13:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry: After looking it up: Latino sine Flexione was devloped in 1903. Interlingua was developed in the 1930s, so likely not the same language..--Eptalon (talk) 12:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Proposed Good Article 2022 Issues
changeSentence complexity is a problem throughout. Here is one example, "The International Auxiliary Language Association (IALA), founded in 1924 to study and decide the best planned language for international communication, was at first viewed with disbelief by the Occidental community." Not simple at all embedded reduced clause, complex vocabulary, etc. Many more like this as well. --Gotanda (talk) 00:12, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Pathetic
changeThat's the word for "In recent years official meetings between Interlingue speakers have begun taking place again: a meeting in Ulm on 10 January 2013, another in Munich in 2014 with three participants, and a third in Ulm on 16 August 2015 with five participants". The article was written as a promotion for a lost cause by a believer. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)