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So what kind of theory would you use for your music composing?
Value Judgments and InaccuraciesEdit
This article is full of statements which pigeonhole music into a narrow category that is completely obsolete since the 20th century at the very least, if not categorically. For instance, "If someone bangs saucepans while cooking, it makes noise. If a person bangs saucepans or pots in a rhythmic way, they are making a simple type of music." is just offensively false. Can something be done to fix this without complicating the issue, thus moving it outside the realm of simple English?
- Reading this long after it was written, I don't see it as obviously false, and it is certainly not offensive. It was an attempt to answer a really difficult question, namely, what distinguishes music from other types of sound? English wiki has a whole article on this one topic. Definition of music:  Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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Eptalon's GA reviewEdit
- More references, esp. in-text ones?
- History of Western classical music; and as a subsection we have Jazz, Pop Music, etc? - I think we should not mix two kinds here. Personally, I don't know, but Benjamin Britten (1913-1976) who was definitely influenced by Jazz is considered Classical. In general I think though that you should perhaps take the most modern (read: probably 20th century) out of this; alternatively if you leave it that way, back it up by a reference.
- Generally link the composers, styles, and musical instruments the first time they appear; but do this consistently.
- Perhaps too much to ask, but can we get two or three composers which were typical for each period of music?
- Music in Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome?
- Can we perhaps get just a short note on people learning to play an instrument/singing,... as a hobby vs. as a professional education
- Different types of music: Chamber music (small quartets/quintets), Music in the family is different from orchestral music, often written to impress an audience. Mentioned Giuseppe Verdi, Schostakovich?
- Music can also help treat certain diseases and conditions; it can help people work in teams (no, the trumpet is not more important...)
Overall , I think before this aricle.
- Perhaps just as pointers: Music for the Royal Fireworks, by Händel; Hector Berlioz, Symphonie Phantastique,... ("Programme music")
To sum it up, what this article needs to be able to get a GA flag:
- Be more precise
- Explain more
- Give a good overview.
- I took and hopefully simplified the Prehistoric music article from EnWP
- The same should be done with the Ancient music article.
the modern period - 12 tone scalesEdit
the article contains the following
"but some composers such as Benjamin Britten use it today, when it is necessary to get a certain feel."
Britten has been dead quite a while now, so can a different example of a 12 tone user who is writing music today be provided?
Far too ethnocentricEdit
Maintenance of GA and VGA listsEdit
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