Anagram16
Welcome
changeHello! I am assuming you have come over from the English Wikipedia, so you are probably familiar with the way this wiki works. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Here are a few links to help you adjust:
- An English Wikipedian's guide
- Writing in Simple English
- Simple talk: our help desk, reference desk and village pump- in one page
- How to copy from English Wikipedia
- A very incomplete list of our active editors
There is much to do here. For example, there are a lot of articles that do not exist yet, which you can bring over from the English Wikipedia and simplify. Do have a look around and see what you would like to do. Thank you for joining us, and you know how to contact me if you need help. Rus793 (talk) 15:31, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
September 2016
changeWelcome to Wikipedia. A page you made, Edwin Atherstone, may not meet our rules for new pages, so it will shortly be removed. Please use the sandbox for any tests. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about changing. Thank you. Please see Wikipedia:Notability Rus793 (talk) 13:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- User:Fylbecatulous made improvements so the page was not deleted. Rus793 (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Just a note about source citations. I patrolled your article Jan Kochanowski (very interesting article by the way) and added some source citations. While you used reliable sources, a citation has to verify all of the facts in a statement. You started off ahead of most editors because you knew to verify the information with source citations. All you need to do now is make sure that a citation verifies every part of a statement. Ideally, all information in an article is based on reliable sources and not our own knowledge. So if a source does not provide all the information you think it should, look for another or modify the statement to match the citation. You can always come back later and continue improving the article. If you have any question regarding source citations or creating new pages, you can ask here or at Wikipedia:Simple talk. Keep up the good work. Thank you Rus793 (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
I made a few changes to John Fitchett when I patrolled it. You might want to take a close look to see the links that were added. Mostly I wanted you to take a look at the use of named references instead of repeatedly using the same reference and creating a longer reference list. Named references are explained in w:Help:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once. If you still have any questions, I'd be happy to set up some examples in your sandbox. Also, when copying articles from another Wikipedia, in addition to simplifying and wikifying them for our readership, you need to provide Wikipedia:Transwiki attribution. In most cases this is done by adding an attribution template to the article's talk page (for example, {{based on|name of the article at the other wiki|version=version number}}). Thanks Rus793 (talk) 14:55, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Anagram16: I moved your conversation back here to keep it in the same thread. You wrote:
- Dear Rus793, thanks for Your advice. I was interested in the way of making many references to one book, but I havn't find any information about it yet. I will try to use references with a name, so that it looks better. I didn't give any information about translation, either, because I never translated full article, but I wrote it by myself. I always try to find some sources outside Wikipedia and obtain informations from them. (Anagram16 (talk) 17:28, 13 October 2016 (UTC))
- Named references are a name you give to a reference, then you can use that name instead of repeating the whole reference. Look at the code in John Fitchett to see how it was done. The name=xxxxx part is then copied and used with a slash character to make it self closing. Easiest way to try this out is to create the next article in your wikipedia:Sandbox and test it out there. Then if you have any problems you can ask for help and I or another editor can work on it with you. Rus793 (talk) 23:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. After some attempts I wrote Vittoria Colonna and inserted many references to one (or another) source. It looks better indeed. Sorry that I didn't do it in the sandbox, but it was too late for it. Another problem was a vandal. (Anagram16 (talk) 23:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC))
- I made a few changes to Vittoria Colonna. Here are just a few notes on the changes. When a source verifies all the information in a statement then you need only add an inline citation at the end of the sentence. It is not necessary to break up the sentence and insert the same citation in the middle of the statement. The English Wikipedia's "External links" section is called "Other websites" here at Simple English Wikipedia. See the Wikipedia:Guide to layout for names of sections that follow the References section. Also, in the References sections, I've been changing the tag <references/> in your articles to the template {{reflist}}. It's a minor point but if there were a change in the future as to how we displayed the list of inline references, any pages still using the wiki markup tag would not change but all articles using the template would change at the same time. Generally, when both are available, templates are preferable to markup tags. A woman who marries a marquess is called a marchioness which is why the University of Chicago biography confirms her being both a noblewoman and a marchlioness. Otherwise look over the changes to see if you have any questions. Lastly, you still need to provide attribution (giving credit to the authors at the Wikipedia the article was copied from). Very interesting article, thanks Rus793 (talk) 14:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. After some attempts I wrote Vittoria Colonna and inserted many references to one (or another) source. It looks better indeed. Sorry that I didn't do it in the sandbox, but it was too late for it. Another problem was a vandal. (Anagram16 (talk) 23:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC))
Reliable sources
changeI notice the article Vladimír Holan was tagged for not using reliable sources. I'm sure the objectionable source was this one: Vladimir Holan Bio.. I would have tagged it also because it is clearly a blog. Other sources seem OK, but the article depends more heavily on this one source. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources to help understand what is and what is not a reliable source. While no one likes to see tags on articles they started, it remains there until an editor replaces it with a reliable source. For example, if you were looking for a bio of Vladimir Holan, see this one [Emery Edward George, Contemporary East European Poetry: An Anthology at Google books. It is usable since it's a reliable published work, in this case by Oxford University Press. You might also consider creating more complete source citations so readers and other editors can more easily find them. Using the short form depends entirely on the URL, which rots sooner or later. Using a source citation template for web pages like this one: <ref>{{cite web |url= |title= |author= |date= |website= |publisher= |accessdate=14 October 2016}}</ref> (copied this one from my cheat-sheet) allows a reader (or editor) to follow up and find the source even if the link rots. There are other templates for books, journals, etc. but it's easier (for me, anyway) to simply write them out. For example, the code for the book I suggested would be: <ref>Emery Edward George, ''Contemporary East European Poetry: An Anthology'' (New York: Oxford University Press, 1993), p. 205</ref>. If you have any questions regarding source citations, just ask here or at Wikipedia:Simple talk. Thanks Rus793 (talk) 15:43, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
October 2016
changeHello, Anagram16! Here at Simple English Wikipedia we use the section heading "Other websites" instead of English Wikipedia's "External links", which you used in "Camilo Pessanha". This makes it simpler and easier to read. Please remember to use "Other websites" in articles that you create in the future. Thank you for your help! Auntof6 (talk) 05:49, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I will remember. I hope I will write something else for Simple English Wikipedia. I found it a very good idea for all learners of English.~(Anagram16 (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2016 (UTC))
Thank you!
changeThanks for adding so many articles about great subjects! All new articles need to be patrolled by an experienced user. I'm working my way through a batch of yours that haven't been looked at yet. Just 2 quick notes that might help with future articles. If you've already figured this out, just disregard.
- Articles are simpler if they are broken into smaller paragraphs. Personally I like to have one sentence at the top with the main definition of the person or subject.
- When adding references, the cite tool is your friend.
- At the top of the edit screen you'll see B I etc. To the far right the line says "cite".
- Click that and another line will appear with Templates as a drop down box.
- Choose "cite web" and a form will come up that you can fill in.
- If a reference is likely to be used more than once, use a ref name. It should be fairly simple, like "EB" for Encyclopaedia Britannica.
- To re-use a named reference choose the clipboard right next to "Named references". Pick the name from the drop down box.
If you have any questions or want any help, please let me know. And thanks again! --Tbennert (talk) 23:50, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Jan Matejko question
changeHi! I was just making some small changes to your article on Jan Matejko. There is line at the end that says "Most of these portraits are imaginary." I'm not finding any art style that is called imaginary? The sentence makes me think the paintings are just in Matejko's head and not real. I don't know enough to adjust the sentence. Can you please take a look and see if there's a different way to phrase what you mean? Thanks! --Tbennert (talk) 18:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)