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Bot training
changeWould your bot like to eat a couple more diffs?
In this diff, a user changed the number of children that Paul Revere had to 69. Even if the bot is unwilling to revert such changes, we should somehow flag the addition of the number 69 for human review, wherever it occurs.
In this one, patriots were changed to loyalists (wrong), horseback was changed to pigback (also wrong), and other changes were made. All were vandalism. None were noticed by a human at the time. Not sure if these were within the capabilities of the bot, but here they are.
Your thoughts on the matter are welcome! Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 01:59, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have added both diffs to the training set as vandalism. I am not sure right now how we could go ahead with the flagging for review implementation, though – perhaps the abuse filter? The second diff is surprisingly within the capabilities of the bot – it was quite close to flagging the diff as vandalism. It is quite amazing how sometimes the bot will be able to recognise the vandalism-specific features. Chenzw Talk 03:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Your friend is back
changePleasee see this edit. The bot caught the vandalizm, but I think we have a sock of a blocked user who was previously editing the same page. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 09:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I wonder why I seem to be making a lot of new friends lately... ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° Chenzw Talk 11:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
school IPs
changeExcuse me, Chenzw: The 166.216.130.0/24 range consists of school IPs. For what particular reason do you think they're abusing the sandbox? There have been worse edits and vandalism to the sandbox. Please consider giving them warnings, and then blocking if the "vandalism" ever gets worse. Angela Maureen (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- Over a period of 3 days, the range has made the following edits to the sandbox:
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5312817&oldid=5312702
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5312824&oldid=5312817 (also a legal threat)
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5312831&oldid=5312828
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5314136&oldid=5313669
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5314208&oldid=5314159
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5314488&oldid=5314229
- https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=5314549&oldid=5314491
- For edits 4, 5, 6 in particular, there was no sign that the edits were used for testing of wiki markup/syntax. Taking into consideration past sandbox history from this range, I determined that those edits were an attempt at gaming the system by passing the edits off as "testing movie lines". We remind editors who are using the sandbox that they should not add "inappropriate things like copyrighted material, swearing, or other attacks in the sandbox", and that in spite of how most our warning templates invite editors to the sandbox, the sandbox should not be treated as a page which offers editors immunity to blocks.
- I will not overturn the block. If you wish, you can ask Peterdownunder or Macdonald-ross to review the block. They are active on-wiki at the moment. Chenzw Talk 00:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- So I looked at these examples, and was rather shocked. It is very clear that the school range needed blocking. I had not realized that the sandbox edits needed regular watching, but will now do so more often. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:27, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- When someone edits the sandbox, they are able to see text that tells them where to make their edit. Would it make sense to add a reminder to that line about what is appropriate? Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 18:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid it is all too obvious that these editors went there because they thought they could get away with those comments without penalty. They will do whatever we let them do. Advice is only useful to people of good intent. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- I enabled abuse filter 64 a while ago to tackle this problem. It is in warn-only mode. Chenzw Talk 02:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- While I agree that
advice is only useful to people of good intent
, the "advice" on that page would give us a stronger case when warning or blocking users for behavior there. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 10:00, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid it is all too obvious that these editors went there because they thought they could get away with those comments without penalty. They will do whatever we let them do. Advice is only useful to people of good intent. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- So I looked at these examples, and was rather shocked. It is very clear that the school range needed blocking. I had not realized that the sandbox edits needed regular watching, but will now do so more often. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:27, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Sites with a
wikimedia.orgaddress were by mistake redirected to the Wikimedia Foundation wiki on 26 January. This included Meta and Wikimedia Commons. The mistake was fixed after an hour. [1] - Some users had problems logging in and out around 22 January. Bots also had problems and edit previews did not work properly. This was because of problems related to the new component SessionManager. It was undone on 23 January. [2][3]
- Because of new problems with SessionManager the latest version of MediaWiki was removed from the Wikimedia wikis again on 31 January. The new version this week will be without SessionManager. [4]
Changes this week
- The page history will get a help link. This will go to Help:Page history on Meta. Wikis can exchange it for a link to their local pages. [5]
- Notifications will only show part of a page name if it is very long. You will also have another way to mark notifications as read. [6][7]
- The Universal Language Selector input methods are now available with the visual editor. This means many who write in non-Latin scripts can now use the visual editor. [8]
- The visual editor will now give you more tools to edit tables. You can move rows and columns in a table and copy parts of tables to make new ones. You can also copy and paste more than one cell at the same time. [9][10][11]
- The visual editor has a new warning message when you leave a page you are editing without saving. Non-English wikis might need to translate it. [12][13]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is expiring watch list entries. The meeting will be on 3 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The
rest.wikimedia.orgdomain will be shut down. This is planned to happen in March. You should use/api/rest_v1/at each individual project domain instead. [14]
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21:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Talk Page Stalker
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| For your recent assistance responding to the request I left on someone else's talk page, I award you the WikiJaguar Award for Excellence in talk page stalking efforts. PokestarFan (talk) 21:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC) |
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Syntax highlighting support is now available for 53 more computer languages. [15]
- When you get a notification that an edit has been reverted, the notification now quotes part of the edit summary. [16]
- RESTBase is now using
scrub_wikitextinstead ofscrubWikitext. [17]
Changes this week
- Wikidata will have a new data type called "math". It will be used for formulas. [18][19]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is per-language URLs for pages of multilingual wikis. The meeting will be on 10 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Other sites will be able to tell when visitors come from links on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites. They used to be able to do this until we started using forced HTTPS in June 2015. This is planned to happen on 15 February. [20][21]
- Wikidata will have a new data type called "external-id". It will be used for references to external resources. It will be enabled on February 16. Some properties will be changed to the new data type. [22][23][24]
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18:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Oops
changeThe bot goofed. See this edit to NASCAR. An IP changed the outdated "Nationwide" to the correct "Xfinity" -- reflecting a sponsorship change of one racing series that occurred nearly a year ago, but the bot reversed the change. I've corrected the article and dropped a note on the IP's talk page explaining that the warning was in error. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 18:23, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have added the diff to the bot's training set. Thank you! Chenzw Talk 03:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 03 February 2016
change- From the editors: Help wanted
- In focus: The Knight Foundation grant: a timeline and an email to the board
- Op-ed: So, what’s a knowledge engine anyway?
- Special report: Board chair and new trustee speak with the Signpost
- Traffic report: Bowled
- News and notes: Harassment survey 2015; Luis Villa to leave WMF; knowledge engine background
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Arbitration report: Catching up on arbitration
File upload
changeHi Chenzw, I saw your message on ST. Do let me know, here, when you're around so I can go about uploading the file. I should be around for a few hours. --Yottie =talk= 10:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, I have granted the sysop flag. No T-shirt this time, though. Chenzw Talk 10:37, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you very much :) --Yottie =talk= 10:48, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 10 February 2016
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- Special report: New leaked internal documents raise questions about the origins of the Knowledge Engine
- News and notes: Another WMF departure
- In the media: Jeb Bush takes a swing at Wikipedia, and connects
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Traffic report: A river of revilement
Template signature
changeI used Twinkle to apply Template:Firstarticle to a user talk page. During the process, my signature was not added to the template when it was done. I manually added it (and also manually changed the wording since it wasn't a perfect fit for the situation), but since you were the last person to edit the template, I thought you might be willing to check the code and see what is wrong with it. (If you need to test it, feel free to try it on my own userpage, and to delete it afterward.) Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 06:54, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like some of the signatures were accidentally left out in this wiki's Twinkle configuration. I have fixed them here. You may need to bypass your browser cache for the changes to take effect. Chenzw Talk 07:10, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I don't use that one too often, but I'll check it out later. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 07:32, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now edit pages on the mobile site version without JavaScript. [25]
- You can now use the Math extension to write chemistry formulas. [26]
Problems
- A few editors might have been logged in as someone else because of a bug. For security reasons everyone was logged out on 9 February. If you have seen this bug, you can report it. [27][28]
Changes this week
- There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. The plan was to have it leave beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. It will happen on 16 February instead. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled. [29][30]
- Cross-wiki notifications will be available as a beta feature on Wikidata, MediaWiki, Commons, and all Hebrew and French wikis on 19 February. [31]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The search function on Wikimedia wikis will get a completion suggester that tries to find the right pages as the user is typing. It will also recognize some typos. This will probably happen in March. It is currently in beta. [32]
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16:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
False positive
changeHi Chenzw, ChenzwBot automatically reverted an IP editor's helpful changes to Peninsula. Details are on the user's talk page - the user was only trying to correct a fact. I have restored the user's changes.
It would be really helpful if you could make a special page to report false positives, rather than having to post on your talk page every time. Thank you for your consideration, << S O M E G A D G E T G E E K >> (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the report. I have added the good edit to the bot's database; it will be able to differentiate such edits better in future. I will try to see if I can get a page up for the reporting. Chenzw Talk 01:56, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 17 February 2016
change- Blog: Antonin Scalia and the editor tracking his legacy
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Op-ed: Shit I cannot believe we had to fucking write this month
- Special report: Search and destroy: the Knowledge Engine and the undoing of Lila Tretikov
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
- Traffic report: Super Bowling
For the bot's data set
changeThis one is definitely vandalism: [33] Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 07:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- Added! However, glancing quickly at the current code, I suspect the bot will still be fooled by this "higher-order" vandalism. We will see how it goes anyway. Chenzw Talk 14:54, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Screamo page revision
changeI just recently tried editing and fixing the page "Screamo" as there were numerous grammatical errors and facts that did not relate to the genre and my changes were reverted i implore you revert the reversion. — This unsigned comment was added by 72.10.97.232 (talk • changes).
- Hi, thank you for reporting this mistake. I have undone the reversion and made some adjustments so that this will not happen again. Chenzw Talk 14:54, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Phabricator has been upgraded. [34][35]
Problems
- There was no new MediaWiki version last week. Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week instead. This is because of a bug that made saving pages take longer time. [36][37]
Changes this week
- After February 23, you can use Wikidata for inter-language links on Wikiversity. [38]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is Assign RFCs to ArchCom shepherds. The meeting will be on 24 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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18:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Hello Chenzw and Nepaxt! I was reverting some vandalism on Immigration to Canada and accidentally restored some vandalism rather than removing it. I know I'm new to Simple Wiki, but I do have some experience over at en-wiki. I'm used to using Twinkle or Huggle. :) Bear with me here! Hope all is well! Chrisw80 (talk) 16:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, glad to see you here; I hope you will stay and continue to contribute here! Chenzw Talk 16:26, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll do my best. Also figured out what happened, you were reverting from earlier in the page history, not what I had reverted. :) Sorry about that! Best wishes. Chrisw80 (talk) 16:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 24 February 2016
change - Special report: WMF in limbo as decision on Tretikov nears
- Op-ed: Backward the Foundation
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Traffic report: Of Dead Pools and Dead Judges
- Arbitration report: Motion on CheckUser and Oversight inactivity
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Thanks to the Graph extension and Pageview API, we now have {{Graph:PageViews}} templates that can show pageviews for any wiki page for any of the wikis. See the examples.
- The Capiunto extension is installed on test wiki. Capiunto provides flexible infobox functionality for Scribunto and generates HTML for infobox features such as headers and rows. It is designed for clean and modern infoboxes that are driven by data from Wikidata, easily usable across different language versions, and easily extensible.
- The visual editor now follows the TemplateData
formatsetting announced in November. When you edit or add a use of a template, the wikitext will be laid out in one of the two ways. [39][40] - The order of parameters and format defined in a template's TemplateData will be now respected. [41][42]
Changes this week
- On wikis where the visual editor is available in single edit tab mode, red links may open the visual editor instead of the wikitext editor, depending on user preferences. [43]
- Anonymous editor warning is now displayed as a warningbox for consistency in both the visual editor and the wikitext editor. [44]
- Parsoid has been updated to fit some HTML 5 specifications. [45]
Meetings
- Resigning executive director Lila Tretikov is taking questions at Knowledge Engine FAQ regarding the much talked about project. [46]
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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20:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)