Discanto

Italy stubs

Hello, Discanto. I noticed that you created a template and category for Italy stubs. You probably didn't know, but on this Wikipedia we require new stub types to be approved before they are created. If you would like a new stub type, you can request it at Wikipedia talk:Simple Stub Project. The page Wikipedia:Simple Stub Project has more information about how we manage stubs. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Hi Auntof6. I did not know this. I allowed myself to create this type of stub as I would like to insert the entries of all the municipalities of Sardinia that will necessarily be stubs. I then intended to move the Italian stubs that are now in the generic Europian stub... --Discanto (talk) 00:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

You would need to get the stub type approved first. The thinking here is that we usually don't create stub types unless someone is actively going to work on expanding the stubs in the new category. It's one way that we keep things simpler here.

If you're interested in other ways that this Wikipedia works differently, you can look at this list that I created. Feel free to ask questions about anything on it. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I looked at the service page you linked to and I read that the creation of the category requires at least 1000 stubs. The municipalities of Sardinia are 377 but I don't know how many other Italian voices can be moved there. So for now let's suspend the idea of ​​creating Italy-stubs that maybe we can resume later. I thank you for your attention and patience. Thanks for that too. --Discanto (talk) 00:38, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

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OK, sounds good. I noticed a couple of other things in articles you created. For example, in Aglientu, look where it talks about the population, the area, and the elevation. It says "As of 2016 it had 1 171" : it doesn't say that that's the population, and the number needs a comma. That sentence should also be split into two, because it's about two different things (population and area): that's part of using simple language here. It also says "It is located at “&A43&” meters above sea level": maybe you copied it from somewhere that retrieves the elevation from Wikidata, but it's not doing that here. Please check the articles you create for this kind of thing. If I can help with it, let me know. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Do you think it will be okay? Consider that I don't know the language well. For example: is the word "people" okay or is it better "inhabitants" or "population" or something else? If it doesn't go well, please correct yourself and I'll take it as a model for the other items. Of course take the time you want. P.Š. the code & A43 & was an Excel box on which I downloaded data from WData... --Discanto (talk) 01:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

OK, look at what I did and let me know if you have any questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Certainly also good for me. Finally I would like to ask you: since all the entries to be inserted have a link to Commons I will also insert the Template:Commonscat but I have noticed that its position within the text is quite variable (1), (2), (3), (4), (5). What exactly is the standard? --Discanto (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

That's complicated. Here is a link to the explanation on enwiki (the corresponding page here doesn't have this information). I changed a couple of the ones you linked so that the output of the template is in a section. When reading the enwiki information, keep the following in mind:

• Where enwiki uses "External links", we use "Other websites".
• The enwiki information says to put the Commons template at the beginning of whatever section it goes in. First, that means right after a level-2 heading. Second, unlike enwiki, many of the articles here have no sections because they are stubs with no references. In these cases, create an "Other websites" section for the Commons template and use the inline form.

Let me know if you have other questions about this. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:01, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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@Auntof6: so it should be this way... --Discanto (talk) 15:26, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Almost. That way the Commons box is by itself way down after the infobox. I would create an "Other websites" section for it and use the inline form of the template. I made the change to show you what I mean. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I got it. I promise you that I will enroll in an English school so I can do without traitorous translators... Regards. --Discanto (talk) 15:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Discanto. One more small suggestion. Direct language is simpler. For example, "It has an area of 18.08 km². It is located at 575 meters above sea level." can be the more direct, "Its area is 18.08 km². It is 575 meters above sea level." just using simple verb "to be" and avoiding extra prepositions and other verbs. I changed a few of your stubs but there were just too many for me to change them all. Thanks, --Gotanda (talk) 22:10, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Ciao @Gotanda: I will take care of updating my entry, according to your advice. If there are other details, please let me know. --Discanto (talk) 23:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

@Gotanda: P.S.: I take this opportunity to ask you: according to the protocol what is the correct title about the page of the "Città metropolitana di Cagliari"? I suppose it is "Metropolitan City of Cagliari" but I would not make mistakes. Thanks, Discanto (talk) 00:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I think you are correct. --Gotanda (talk) 03:29, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Rapid stub creation

What sort of automated means are you using to create those articles. You are creating enough per minute that you clearly must be doing something. Be aware that using automated means to create articles when not approved would likely end up in a block. -DJSasso (talk) 14:08, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

@Djsasso: I have several years of experience and I know that you cannot use automatic tools without having obtained an authorization and in fact I'm not using any. I simply use an Excel sheet in which, from Wikidata, I took the data of the municipalities of Sardinia. Here I rearrange them and then move them directly to the pages of the items to be created. This method allows me to avoid errors in the transcription of the data beyond and not to waste time by copying them one by one. Having initially created and verified a model it is impossible for errors to occur. Furthermore, if you report any changes or improvements to be made I am ready to correct them myself, as indeed has already happened. This is a screenshot of the worksheet and if you want to better check then download here the file. Sorry for the language, I'm using an automatic translator. --Discanto (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Spelling: Comune vs Communes

Hi, I was patrolling New Pages and checking your recent stubs. One thing is a problem, I think. In the body of the article you use "comune," but in the template at the end you use "communes." Which is correct? I hate to say it, but you should probably go back and correct all the differences.

Example:

• Bortigiadas (Bultigghjàta) is a town and comune (municipality) in the Province of Sassari in Sardinia, Italy.

• Communes in the Province of Sassari

I think this error is across all of your Italian place stubs. Sorry I didn't notice this sooner. -- Gotanda (talk) 04:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@Gotanda: I was convinced that the term comune (sing.) or comuni (pl.) were used only in the body of the text, and that instead the title of the template should be in English using "communes", since we are in simple.en. So the title of the template should be moved to "Comuni in the Province of xxxx"? Waiting for a confirmation. --Discanto (talk) 21:24, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The template should not be changed. As for the term in the body of the article, I don't think we have a rule for that, although if you use the foreign term it should be linked (as it is in the example article). --Auntof6 (talk) 23:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Still seems strange to me to have the two different spellings but I guess Auntof6 does so much category work here, I'll defer to her suggestion. Sorry for any trouble! --Gotanda (talk) 00:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)