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Good luck and happy changing! Auntof6 (talk) 18:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for adding missing reference sections! Now that the references appear even without coding the section, people seem to forget to include it. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Auntof6, I am doing the German Wikipedia Syntax Check since a while. But the work is done in the German Wiki, so I do a little more here. --GünniX (talk) 18:36, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Do you need more help? :) --Grind24 (talk)

No thank you, I'm finish for today. Perhaps another time. --GünniX (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

What are you actually doing...

... when you say "IBSN fixed"? I reviewed the IBSN of Charles Darwin's Natural Selection (Cambridge University Press) on the book itself. It was 0-521-34807-2. You have come up with a quite different number: 0-521-20163-2.

The reason I trouble you with this question is because my page references (if any!) are to a particular copy. So if an IBSN # refers to another edition, the pagination might be different. Also, obviously, reprints by other publishers will have another number, and again I think the original reference should be used. Of course, I do make mistakes, but your changes seem to be based on some other principle. Regards, Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Macdonald-ross: I checked out the ISBN that you mentioned in the post above, plus one the user changed in the article Castle. In both cases, a Google search on the original ISBN resulted in no hits; a Google search on the corrected ISBN resulted in numerous hits, with the correct title and author (as used in the citation). That said, I ran across ISBN on EnWiki and, based on that article, I can conclude that the original ISBN used in the Castle article had to be invalid. I'm not sure if there was an actual problem with the ISBN on the Charles Darwin book, but the change would imply a different publisher, which does concern me. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  09:42, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I found that ISBN at Worldcat (see Charles Darwin's Natural selection, being the second part of his big species book written from 1865 to 1858., Cambridge Univ. Press). I didn't find the ISBN 0-521-34807-2 at Worldcat. But Worldcat has no complete catalog.

According to Worldcat it's even the publisher "Cambridge Univ. Press". The ISBN tester says, that both numbers belong to "Cambridge University Press".

The number 0-521-20163-2 is used by London Borough of Sutton Libraries, Sheffield Libraries, University of Toronto and Amazon - Hardcover

The ISBN 13 number 9780521201636 is used by Brighton & Hoves Libraries

The ISBN number 0-521-34807-2 is used by Amazon - Paperback

How do you think about Hardcover and Paperback? I assume, that the lower number 0-521-20163-2 (1975) is the original ISBN and the higher number 0-521-34807-2 (1987) is the later published Paperback. --GünniX (talk) 18:00, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, I think it's extraordinary that the same publisher should have two quite different numbers for essentially the same book. I took the number directly from the paperback edition. I did think it was strange that you were finding so many numbers to be changed, and it seems from this that many of those were originally correct. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:46, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Many books have different ISBNs for Hardcover, Paperback or e-Book. These different numbers are necessary to order the right book using the ISBN.

WikiProject Check Wikipedia scans regularly for syntax errors. ISBNs are checked for length (10 or 13 digits) and checksum. The wrong numbers are listed with middle priority. --GünniX (talk) 19:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Ooooh, that's a cool report! I've really gotta get in there and explore a bit! As someone who worked in a university library for a few semesters, once upon a time and a long time ago, I can absolutely assure anyone who asks that publishers sometimes assign a new ISBN to what is essentially the same book in the same format (hardbound, softbound, etc.). While this was never formally explained to me as a student helper, a comparison showed that there was generally some kind of change, even if it was just to the dust jacket, or the correction of a few typos. Of course, new editions to a book would also result in a new ISBN, and those new editions would often have additional material added, which affected the page numbers. This is why citations to a particular edition of the book should not have the ISBN changed, unless the ISBN is reported in error. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  04:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, thank you both. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)