User talk:Barliner/archive5

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IRC Channel

Heya Barliner, what's the IRC channel that you usually go to (recent changes for this Wikipedia)? I tried to get onto it, but it didn't work very well....maybe you could shed some light onto this situation? Razorflame (contributions) Talk 19:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Photo of me

In case you were wondering what I look like, I've just uploaded to the commons an image of myself. See for yourself at my userpage here ;) Razorflame (contributions) Talk 00:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

North Pole Elementary

Heya Barliner, can we get some action on this IP address? Creol deleted Template:NPE for Vandalism earlier. Razorflame 03:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Haskovo

Do you think I did a good job expanding this article? It was one of my first real attempts at expanding an article. Razorflame 18:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

World War II

I just got done reverting 5-7 vandalous edits to the page World War II and I think that this page should be semi-protected. If this same vandal strikes again in 3 hours, I'm going to immediately post him up for 24 hour block. What do you think on this topic? Razorflame 23:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

h

thanks for the welcome message ^_^

I have worked on wikipedia before, but this is new you to me. On wikipedia, there was something called the ANI (Administrators Noticeboard/Incidents)... is there anything for that here?

Iamandrewrice 12:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

lol yes :) is there an equivalent here? x

Iamandrewrice 12:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, it was the first one you gave me... i left a comment there... Iamandrewrice 12:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

^_^

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For being really helpful when I was new to this. You went specifically out of your way just to help me. Thank you ♥ Iamandrewrice 13:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks --Bärliner 13:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

World War II

I am curious about a couple of the changes in your edit of the article World War II.

1. The removal of information of the start of the war in the Asian theater. The Pacific War is commonly accepted as starting on July 7, 1937 with the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War.
2. The removal of information dealing with England and France not following through on their stated support of Poland.
3. 1938 vs 1939 in regards to Czechoslovakia. The dates seem to be in opposition to en:wp as there was no actual attack until March '39. While there was planning, pressure and threat of attack in 1938, the Munich Agreement handed over the areas controlled by Germany without the need for combat. Actually I would question the use of the term attacked at all given that, even in March, Hitler basically just said "We are going to attack you. Do you surrender?" and they pretty much did. The troops marched into Prague, but to no resistance so I am not even certain that counts as attacking.

Help at understanding the changes (and any insight on the date issue as I am not very certain what actually was going on in that area) would be appreciated. -- Creol(talk) 13:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

True, maybe threat is better than attack for the first Czech. episode. I will make a change. As it was the article's timelime was confusing mentioned an attack in 1939 and then went back to no attack in 1938. Actually there should be a mention of the Anschluß as well as Czechoslovakia as the start of expansion plans. I would still say attack for 1939, Sudetendland was a surrender, but the rest of the country was an "attack" albeit with little or no resistance

Stated support of Poland. When Poland was attacked war was declared. The logistics of made actual military support in Poland itself impossible, but the old edit seemed to expect this. Some wording needs to be found to show limited support on the western front. France's slow mobilisation for example. Britain only promised support a few weeks before the war started so was unprepared for action, although Britain did begin seizing ships as well as a blockade.

Start of WW2. July 1937 is certainly the start of Sino Japan 2 but only recently has this bilateral conflict been claimed as the start of WW2. To say "technically began" is too simplistic. I see that en:wp gives the attack of Poland as the start, also saying Sino Jpan was a seperate conflict. Actually the scope of the WW2 article itself is really only the war in Europe. Maybe a page rename is in order. Leaving World War II as an introduction, including conflicts/threats in Europe and Asia with the war in Europe and the War the Pacific as main articles which would be more easily edited. Certainly it would allow for expansion of the pre-Pearl Harbor fighting in China and Indo China--Bärliner 14:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Aargau Finished

Hey there Barliner! I finished up creating all the municipalities for the canton of Aargau now :) What do you think I should work on next? Razorflame 19:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I see some redlinks. Maybe just different names for the same place. --Bärliner 19:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, they are different names for places. Other than that, all the municipalities are done. I'll go fix up those other ones right now. Razorflame 19:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		For making me that special sig! Razorflame 01:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) --Bärliner 01:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully this is what the special barnstar is used for :) Razorflame 01:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

oh...

ok thanks... but surely it would still be preferable to have somethingto work with? otherwise, there is no article at all. i dont quite think its the same as with german and english. Basic English is simply an extract of a few words from English, so a speaker of basic english will be able to understand much of an article in English anyway, yes? Ben(User)(Talk)(Changes) 16:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

When an editor wants to create an article then he or she will. this is far better than leaving complex articles that out target cannot understand lying around. See What we are not--Bärliner 16:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

oh ok... does that mean simple wikipedia is not allowed to have all the articles that wikipedia has, even if they are in basic english? Ben(User)(Talk)(Changes) 16:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for jumping in, but that is not the case. A lot of the articles I've made all come from the English Wikipedia, it's just that I've simplified the English used in them so that other users here would be able to easily understand them. Razorflame 17:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Not a test

My update to the Julius Streicher page is not a test. Location Based Service 17:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Nor was it correct or neutral. I hope any further edits you make will be neutral, and any controversial statements properly sourced. --Bärliner 17:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Broken redirect

I was going through basic maintenance and came to a broken redirect in your User space. User:Barliner/BOGNM is left without a target due to a move, remove, and delete. As the page is linked from your to do list, I felt it better to let you deal with correcting/deleting it rather than try and figure it all out. -- Creol(talk) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks this has been deleted --Bärliner 11:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks!     Dear Barliner/archive5. I'd like to thank you deeply for participating in my RfA, which came out successful just today. I'm happy to say that I'll be more active than ever now, and that any page that needs protecting or any vandal that needs blocking will be done so (unless someone beats me to it!). If you have any comments to make, concerns or even critisism, then please leave a message on my talk page. Gwib -(talk)- 00:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Technosexuality

your removal of my content on technosexuality was completely innapropriate. You removed some very valid content, and you have changed the meaning away from academic consenus. Technosexual, campaigned by Calvin Klein, is just ONE aspect of Technosexuality... I will shortly be restoring the rest. Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 13:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I give weight to both sides of technosexuality. See the english wikipedia version --Bärliner 13:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not yet done with the article... I was building up both sides. However, removing content about one of the sides is unneccesary. I was in fact trying to get back to the sources I had used right when you changed it back... as I am going to try do again now... Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 13:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I have provided many links to the article. I am still not done, as I will be restructuring it and adding more links soon, but I think that what is there at the moment is good enough to prove the phenomenon observed by the academic consensus. Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 14:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I have not denied the existence of technosexuality. I dispute the articles robot bias. The section says a lot about robots, almost nothing about technosexuality --Bärliner 14:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I am still adding bits about it...some of the bits about technosexuality are found inside the paragraphs about the robots. ^^ Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 15:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for helping with the technosexual article... (ps. ive commented on the talk page there). Also, thank you for the userbox link :P Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 18:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

i replied on my page Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 18:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

oh my gosh

thank you :))))) that was very kind. It is perfect ♥

^_^

x Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 21:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

ps. how do you upload images here? Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 21:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

but earlier... that picture of the robot you tried putting on technosexual is from commons, right? and that didnt work

Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 21:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

let me check--Bärliner 21:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

did you find out in the end? :S Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 14:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

cute picture but Jude Law is copyrighted :( so no commons. There are others in the commons category robots. --Bärliner 15:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand. If a picture is used on wikipedia, it is in 'commons'... right? Oo so surely any picture which is on there will work here? Why do some of the pictures used in the userbox templates not work here? Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 15:31, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Template

You're template looks nice, as far as templates go. Ich nehme an, dass Sie deutsch auch sind? Ich bin halber Russe und halbes Deutsch. Ironisches Huh... But I'm better with English, across the pond in England. Cypher (talk) 01:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

hi ^_^

thanks again :D how exactly did you make the template? Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 15:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't it I imported it from en:wp. I just saw that you had a redlink and brought the appropriate template over so that your code worked. --Bärliner 15:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

How did you bring it over tho? Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 15:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

As a admin I can use the import feature. This preserves the history, and therefore the info needed for copyright and attribution under the GFDL licence. Another reason "copypaste" from enwp is frowned upon here. --Bärliner 15:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks :p Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 17:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

no

The 3 items that were in the oppose section before were safely returned to the oppose section. Please do not revert my edits again. Thank you for your cooperation. We look forward to working with you in the future. Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 18:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

but.. i spent so much effort making it look pretty for the benefit of wikipedia, and then you all deleted it :'(

I don't understand why... there's no policy on it... Ben.(Talk).(Changes) 19:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Question

Why revert my QD tag, then go and delete it? Razorflame 20:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I tried to save the article but no, should have just deleted and let him start again--Bärliner 20:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for providing rationale for it. Razorflame 21:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you very much for that code IuseRosary 21:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool, Thanks again IuseRosary 09:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk page

Hi Barliner. I need full protection of my talk page until tomorrow because of you know what. Razorflame 22:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, can you unprotect it. Tygrrr blocked Iamandrewrice. I didn't know that that was what he was going to do. Razorflame 22:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I've unprotected it. Oysterguitarist 22:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks --Bärliner 22:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know I was going to do it either. :-) · Tygrrr... 22:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Uncertain

Do you think that this edit is advertising? I think it is, but I will run it past you first before reverting the change. Razorflame 17:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Judaism wiki?. No I would leave it. --Bärliner 17:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I wanted to get your input first. I will leave it.

P.S: Like the new siggy? I love it :) Razorflame 17:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Actuary

My apologies. I know that Simple Wiki's requirements are vastly different than enwiki's and so I'm not used to the structure here. (and I have around 20K edits of enwiki habits I have to break . -- Avi (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I was on enwp for several years before moving here. It is surprising how quickly you can learn the new language. --Bärliner 17:28, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the date issue. I've added some sources as well, although the sources are not simple English, I'm afraid. -- Avi (talk) 17:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

How long?

Until our user is unblocked? Razorflame 20:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

One hour 43 minutes --Bärliner 20:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I will not be on when he comes back on. Please watch my userpage/user talk page and make sure he doesn't edit them until I can get back on? I am trying hard to not be involved in this discussion, so I want nothing on my userpage by him when I get back on. Razorflame 20:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

QD Speed Test

Sorry Barliner, but you've failed your QD Speed Test! You'll have to try again in a few hours. Hopefully, you'll pass this time! Razorflame 21:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Question

So, unless I'm mistaken, people are basically saying that even though it is obvious plagiarism, nothing is really going to be done about? -- Scorpion0422 (talk) 21:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Oi! How about you actually read our replies to your messages? I'm simplifying them as we type this. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 21:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

warning

Why am I getting warned? He's the one who wrote this. -- Scorpion0422 (talk) 02:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

He has been warned also. I remind you not to call another editor a "thief"--Bärliner 02:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Scorpion0422

Hi, can you please help me on this debate that has been occurring between me and Scorpion0422. Scorpion0422 first came to this wiki, registered an account and started a fuss on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard by targeting me for a copyright violation and accussing me for my editing saying that I could get blocked. I have recently asked him several questions which he did not completely answer me and has made side excuses on my talk page which showed no reasonable solutions to the discussion. Later he framed me for plagarism on the articles. If you would read the articles, at a first glance, they do have similar formats, but the text are not directly the same although Scorpion0422 has been accousing me of it nevertheless. I believe that I have been framed for no justified reason since he later withdrew his statement since he had no proof on any copyright violation which subsequently makes it a "personal attack" since I was offline during the time it began. I felt completely frustrated by his behavior by calling me a thief, critizing me for no reason (since he has backed away from his claims and showed no proof), pursading other users against my work and me, and being uncivil. Just recently, he has said "I'm done" in order to avoid this issue as of what was his reason to start this debate without a reasonable statement or anything. So my point is that I was targeted for no speific reason. I hope that you may help resolve this problem. To see where the discussion occurred see my talk page and Scorpion0422's talk page. --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 03:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How can you possibly say that it wasn't a copy and paste job? The Maggie Simpson article had a {{fact}} that said it had been on there since August 2007, but the article was created in September 2007. -- Scorpion0422 (talk) 03:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

*ahem* Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Copyright violation. Excuse me but when I read the disccussion posted up there, Razorflame has already noted you that is not any form of a copyright infringement. Personally, I felt that you have created a biased statement against me. If you don't understand a policy stop and think twice before making any actions as you have just done. Policies be read carefully and carried out what they say. You have said I made a wiki policy violation which you have never proved, just as I mentioned above in may statement. --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 03:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Also framing and targeting against one single user without a reasonable or valid statement is a form of a personal attack up to a degree. You have not yet given such statements. --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 03:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

oh gosh...

... i didnt realise he wasn't an admin... i'm going to get banned again now :(

this is such a stupid rule! Ben^{(Talk).(Changes)} 14:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No ban. I understand your reason for contacting him. You forget that for the time being you should not. I am glad that you want to prevent any sort of abusive language here. I hope you are happy with my explanation of what happened. --Bärliner 14:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry i meant 'blocked'...

and although I understand many things can be said on the heat of the moment, as I have sometimes done so myself, I think that an apology would show that he didn't mean it... although from what i have observed, I have not seen this from him yet. Ben^{(Talk).(Changes)} 14:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I will ask him.--Bärliner 14:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ^^ ...so by the way... how come you can speak english so well if you're from Germany? :) Ben^{(Talk).(Changes)} 15:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Same reason you speak english so well and are from Malta, France, and Italy :) --Bärliner 15:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

hehe... but i've always lived in England... oh have you? Ben^{(Talk).(Changes)} 15:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No. And usually I spend about six or eight months in Germany each year, working for friends.--Bärliner 15:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Ok,cool. What do I put in the Bit Where it says 'your image'?

The name of the image, so that {{BS|this is Random Acts of kindness|img=Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png}} gives

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar! this is Random Acts of kindness

and {{BS|this is Surreal|img=Surreal barnstar.png}} is

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar! this is Surreal

Oh thanks, they look ace. well lights have given me a template thing, I'll try both and see which I prefer. But, yeah, Thanks! IuseRosary 17:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oh My Days, Thank-You so Much, your so Kind. That is so amazing, Thank-you!

IuseRosary 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oh, It's So Fantastic, Thank you Greatly, Oh, Thanks you so much it's Fantastic.
• I think it's only right now that you should be the first person to recieve this barnstar, even though you havn't edited an music pages recently, as far as I am aware, A special exception:

File:MusicisSexymale.png		The Music is Sexy Barnstar
		Thank-You so much for helping me create my Barnstars and putting in a lot of HardWork. You have made me very happy and you most certainly deserve this. Thank-You IuseRosary 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

thanks  :) --Bärliner 19:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Plagairism

I have perviously left you a note above, also that you are aware of the debate that was occurring throughout the past 2 days. If you take a look at Scorpion0422's talk page, I have clearly stated to him of what was the intention of accussing me and becoming uncivil amongst a whole lot of other things. Apparently, the problem hasn't yet been resolved or come to an end and I have strongly felt that I was harrassed, attacked, and acoussed by Scorpion0422 for no reason. I have done nothing wrong until Scorpion0422 began stirring up commotion and eventually a heated debate between us.

About the comment on Gwib's talk page, that was targeted towards Scorpion0422 for the problems he has caused before. About Iamandrewrice, I guess that I was not sensitive enough that someone else would get offended, but I would like to take a moment to apologize to Iamandrewrice for any concerns I might have caused to him. But please be aware that the profanity was directed only to Scorpion0422, not anyone else.

Right now, I'm trying to cool down a bit before resuming to edit, but unfortunately school is beginning pretty soon again so my editing pace may be decreased. Anyhow, I don't plan to leave this wiki now, so I may occassionally edit every week.

P.S. I'm not from Australia, I from the US. --§ Snake311 _{(T + C)} 22:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you snake for your appology. However, using the homophobic term 'queer' is not just insultive to the person it is directed at, but is in fact an insulting term for all people who identify as homosexual. remember that ;) lol 89.240.72.176 (talk) 22:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Apologies for mixing you up with another editor. Actually I was hoping to show iamandrewrice that what is a homophobic remark in one country might not be in another . I knew your anger was directed only against Scorpion, but for Iamandrewrice I asked you to actually say so. I too am thoroughly sick of Scorpions talk of plagarism. The notice on the enwp edit page saysPlease note:

• "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it. ".

89.241.182.161

I've blocked IP address 89.241.182.161, who is obviously Ben evading his block. Just to let you know (it was Razorflame who cottoned on fastest - silly English expression :p). --Gwib ^-(talk)- 23:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The reason I caught on so fast was because it was in the same range as the other IP address that Ben admitted to using. Razorflame 23:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

He has been using yet another IP address to edit with. If he edits a single page, article or talk page before any of the blocks on any of his accounts have expired then I will indefinitly block all his accounts until we discuss what actions to take with the other administrators. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 23:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I was arranged to block the range, but the range is growing. --Bärliner 23:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Bugger.. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 23:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Succinct. --Bärliner 23:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Bakunin

Why did u deleted the page?yes maybe it had errors,im not english,but,it's easy delete a page,why didn't help the page?maybe fixing the errors???.. bye Italy90 —This unsigned comment was added by Italy90 (talk • changes) 15:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

There is already a page about Bakunin. You can add to that. But do not copy big parts of en:wp you must make it into simple English. --Bärliner 15:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And him using a keyboard with a working space bar wouldn't be a bad idea either. -- Creol(talk) 15:59, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I would have to agree with Creol. I'm tired of having to add spacing to his articles. Razorflame 20:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

sorry if my keyboard,doesn't make space,sometimes..but who cares?me no,this wp is for learn things,not for speaking about a stupid keyword;) Italy90.

It makes it more difficult for people to use Wikipedia if they can't read the articles, and missing spaces make it more difficult to read. So yes, people care. Benjamin M. A'Lee (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

well if my keyboeard dones't make spaces sometimes,i can't do nothin "ucan understand" i think u can read this and understand,so if sometimes i dont' see the space,soooorry,it's looks like criticism about a noob (me),and not interesting to help wp.however i said sorry lots of times. Italy90 —This unsigned comment was added by Italy90 (talk • changes) 23:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Again, Italy90 has left an unsigned message, and again I ask him to properly sign any posts with ~~~~ --Bärliner 10:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

IuseRosary

Thanks for standing behind me on that one, I owe you!! :D
However, I fear I've created a vandal, and am somewhat reminded from when user:Liam.gloucester|Liam] kept removing warnings from his own talk page. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not a vandal. I was just imbaressed that you kept interigating me about my complicated religious beliefs and I was a tad imbaressed that I didn't opriginally know what that slag term meant. i apologise! IuseRosary 18:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It's alright, you are forgiven. But think about what others (especially skeptical, prying harnessers like me) might think before posting a full blown latin prayer on someones talk page and then removing information from your own. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Thank-You, I shall remember that in future for when I meet people with simular natures to you!

IuseRosary 18:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Super mario World 2: Yoshi's island

Do you think this article should be deleted... I don't think we have an article about the first one and article seems like just a description of the game. Oysterguitarist 19:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Not enough info to keep the page --Bärliner 19:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll be happy to make an article on this game as I loved this game when I played it over 4 years ago :) Razorflame 20:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

A QD page

Gulf of Saint Lawrence. It's QD'able. Just letting you know. Razorflame 20:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

AN

I undid IamAR's edit to the AN because there already is a topic about it in the Simple talk page, and it has nothing to do with administrators. Razorflame 14:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I restored it so I could say what had happened to the edit. Namely it has been moved to simple talk, which is far more useful than simply getting rid of it.--Bärliner 14:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for that. I saw that oysterguitarist moved a message about that to simple talk, so I assumed that it was a repeat edit. Razorflame 14:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Squanto

Did you mean to only block him for 24 hours, or if he is related to User:Sean Domas, then maybe it should've been indefinite? Razorflame 17:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Music Project

Well, there is Kind of a music Project, it's just not official yet... And I only lest that message on the talk page of the pages that I myself had created as part of the project and a few others that may directly link to the pages that I have created. But, Ok, I won't continue that until the music project is official, I just thought it may be another way of letting people know about the project. How can I make a template? Thanks IuseR 17:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I will do one for you to fix up as you need, assuming you will be able to read this message, and I do not get edit conflicts because editors not part of this conversation assume the right to change how my userpage looks--<span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Old --Bärliner 17:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)English;">Bärliner 17:12, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't understand the last part of that. :-) IuseR 17:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, it wasn't meant for you, just for people who like to interfere :)--Bärliner 17:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I just made a new heading for this topic because it was unrelated to the last topic. Razorflame 17:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

It is nice to be able to read my own messages and make the changes I want. This is completely different from reverting vandalism --Bärliner 17:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

All right. I'll let you make the changes in the future. I was just trying to help you out. Razorflame 17:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Does this coversation involve me? IuseR 17:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Counter

Stole the edit counter from your new user page :). Hope you don't mind. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 17:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

And I stole it from you :) Razorflame 17:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Aww! A pudgy smiley face! --Gwib ^-(talk)- 17:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Alright, a rounded smiley face :p --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

woah barliner!

that is some snazzy new userpage! :) IamARe 18:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have yet to finish :)--Bärliner 20:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Barliner

I just wanted to say thank you in defending me when Gwib continued harrassingly reinstating the content on my page. I am very grateful, and you are a great wiki-friend :) IamAre 19:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

No problems :)--Bärliner 20:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

The Issue with our new admin

I've explained on the AN that both members of this discussion cool off and remove themselves from the confrontation to let others talk it out. Would you agree? Razorflame 19:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Just back online, and yes. I think pleanty of others have said or thought the same--Bärliner 20:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Razorflame, as I'm not allowed to post on your page, i'll talk to you here... i would like to say thank you to you too for helping defend me from Gwib's outbirst. Both I and IuseR are very grateful ^_^ IamAre 19:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Forwarded to RF--Bärliner 20:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

flagicon

With all the work you did creating country data files, I would have thought you would use {{flag}} more often than {{flagicon}}. Plus it saves even more space by not needing to use the link to the country as well (in cases of countries were data is available of course, silly to use it when no data is done yet). -- Creol(talk) 13:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Barliner.

Hey Barliner. Firstly, I would just like to Thank you for participating in the discussion about Gwib on the AN, I respect your opinion and it is users like yourself whom I listen too and have earned my respect. But, I would Like to archive my talk page, It is getting a tad long for me and my computer slows down when i open my user page. I would like to archive the first 25 discussions on my talk page, so 1 -25. How can I do that please? Thanks IuseR 13:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a seperate page that I copy barnstars to. Then I simply archoive the whole page by moving it to a subpage. I would suggest you move your page to IuseRosary/archive1 then you can copy and paste the barnstar back to your user page. If I have not explained that very well I will make the move for you. --Bärliner 13:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, My barnstar is already on my userpage. But yeah, you explained it pretty well, Thank-You IuseR 13:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

New Music Express

It's a double redirect. It says that double redirects need to be fixed. Razorflame 17:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

As you say FIXED, not deleted--Bärliner 17:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Whackmole

Thanks for adding the Whackmole js script to my monobook.js. That has been extremely helpful when I've had to deal with vandalism. So:

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar! For helping me be better able to fight vandalism on this site. I hereby award you this Barnstar! Razorflame 20:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this --Bärliner 20:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

But seriously think about it: I've been using this to warn around 500 vandals, and I couldn't remember who gave me this tool. Razorflame 20:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you have been using the tool. I couldn't believe you've only just noticed! :) --Bärliner 20:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that it was from you. I thought that maybe I put it into my monobook, but a quick look at the page history confirmed that it was you. Therefore, you get a barnstar for that :) Razorflame 20:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

Sorry, But I did double check every single revert i made with infomation from other sources such as en.wikipedia. When the anonmous user was putting peoiple's births as certain years, i double checked and alot of the time, they were born on a different year. Nobody else that was reverting this vandilism gave an in-depth edit summery. Am I not trusted? IuseR 20:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

You don't need to give an indepth summary, but instead of just saying vandalism say "wrong year" or "removing non-existent website" which is a summary gwib used recently. Just saying vandalism doesn't help anybody especially the named editor who who getting annoyed at always being reverted. --Bärliner 20:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks, I'll remember that. IuseR 20:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Psychedelic rock

I've added about 715 bytes to this article using my knowledge I learned from my History of Popular Music class. I will doublecheck to make sure that the information I added to the article is correct, so please don't revert it until after I check with him tomorrow. Thanks, Razorflame 21:16, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Body dysmorphic disorder

why did you remove that sentence from 'BDD'? IamR 15:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Look at the talk page. --Bärliner 15:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

ive replied there... IamR 15:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

can you help with the repeated referencing on the page that I tried to do Oo IamR 15:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course, let me reread the article and fix it--Bärliner 15:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

barliner... i'm not sure i can work on the article anymore today... its too upsetting... IamR 20:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I know it is rather personal to you and you have been working at it for five hours, so it would be best to take a rest now. Tomorrow or the day after you may feel ready to tackle to page again. Well done for all that work! --Bärliner 20:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I realise

Hey, I just wanted to thank-You for changing some stuff around on the simplewikiproject music pages page. so yeah, tahnks! I.R 21:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I.R. i hope you don't mind, I changed some stuff on your project ^_^ IamR 21:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Wrong User, lol, Sorry. I.R 21:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thnx!

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar! You have been awarded the Simple Wikiproject Alabama recognition barnstar for significant contributions to articles related to Alabama. We thank you!

Yeah for the Heart of Dixie! --Bärliner 22:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Alabama Barnstar

It's not good it's fantastic! Thank you!—This unsigned comment was added by 1bookfan (talk • changes) 00:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

County town vs county seat

Noticed a recent change via AWB listing the relinking of "county seat" to "county town" for a city in Alabama. The term County town is used for the British Isles (UK and Ireland). County seat is the general term used for any such place and the one for the seat of all county governments in the United States. -- Creol(talk) 18:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Damn. I copied a pre-existing link, assuming the article included both references. What I did was create a link, so county seat is unchanged --Bärliner 18:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

A quick query about this - the article says that in the US the county seat is where central Government is. But shouldn't that be local Government as central Government suggests national Government. And in the UK equivalent, it gets more complicated due to the varying different layers of local Government different areas have, from one layer (unitary authorities) to three layers (parish/district/county councils) MindTheGap (talk) 18:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the US uses "central" and "local" government in the same way as the UK, but I will change that to "centre of government" for non-US readers. Also the UK's non-metropolitan unitary authorities are in the main their own counties, so we also stray into the historical, ceremonalo and administrative argument.--Bärliner 18:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

That would seem to make sense - as you say the traditional/ceremonial/administrative makes it less straightforward than it would be nice to be! MindTheGap (talk) 18:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the local government of the county is based on the county town. Districts and parishes all have different functions seperate from "county government". This tiering of local government seems to happen in most countries so I do not think it will confuse anyone. --Bärliner 18:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

may I ask something?

Why is it that IuseR was blocked for 24hours for just calling 'Gwob' a 'runt'... while Snake311 was not blocked at all for calling that other person a 'motherf**king queer'.

Not only this...

But i have just had restrictions put on me for telling Gwob that he was wrong... but Gwob was arguing with me too, and called me a 'pathetic waste of space', and nothing at all was done.

you may not like this, but I do feel there is some bias going on against the newer users... I-R 22:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• • "your ideas Gwib are completely Euro-centric"
  • ""GWIB", you are completely wrong"
  • "See my translations above, compared to... 'yours'... "
  • "revise your 'basic english'... or actually, your 'english'. It is understandable that you would have forgotten it by living in Switzerland so long..."
  • "helping me out with this whole Gwib's Issues"
  • "The above account can be considered a personal attack or continued harassment on Gwib"
  • "I see you've had problems with 'Gwob' too, or whatever his/her/its name is"
  • "and why is gwib still posting here? get rid of it"

--Gwib ^-(talk)- 22:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

paragraph 1. You are in correct. This is not the quote snake 311 gave, and I have already answered this question

paragraph 3. You are insulting another user by deliberately using the wrong spelling of his username. Among several other insults, which I see Gwib has listed. Get on with producing articles and stop harassing administrators and disrupting wikipedia. --Bärliner 22:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No you have not told me why Snake311 was not blocked? I would like to know just that please... as I think that what he said was far more insultive than calling someone a 'runt'.

And also, if you have noticed, the 'i' and the 'o' on the keyboard are next to eachother, so it is very easy to missspell 'Gwib'.

Please answer that question I-R 22:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You are not IuseRosary, Snake or Scorpion. They know the reasons for the blocking and other action. I have no intention of raking through old conversations about old issues in order that you can continue disrupting this site. --Bärliner 23:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No they don't... IuseR has informed me that he does not exactly understand why he was blocked for something so small, while Snake was not blocked for something a lot worse. Please... really... do fill us in... we'd love to hear the reasons? I-R 23:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

If IuseRosary does not know the reason for the block then, he can ask the blocking admin. Oysterguitarist 23:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity (Hello all, btw); Last time I checked IuseRosary was able to write himself (herself?), so if it the blocking reason is really unclear to him (..); why do we see you asking, and not him? - As to the bloking rest assured, from now on, admins will treat all users the same way (in other words: there is no favoritism). --Eptalon (talk) 23:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

IuseR can write himself, but I warned him not to talk about this in case they tried to block him again for causing 'disruption', so I said I would bring up the matter once I think it is a more appropriate time. Thank you Eptalon, so from now on, all personal attacks will be treated the same way? I-R 09:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Help!

My Barnstrs have died!

They Have DIED!

What am I going to do? What am I going to do? What? What?

We both worked so hard on them... and now they're dead!

I.R 10:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

replies at User_talk:IuseRosary--Bärliner 11:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Why?

Aren't they part of the 'see also' because they are internal links? Oo

And I don't understand you... one moment your really nice, and the next moment you snap at me :( What have I done to you that makes you angry with me all the time?

I-R 14:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't snap. I typed a brief note. The rewason is that a "See also" is a list of links which may be useful. The template is a seperate section of its own, so like all other templates is placed in after the text. --Bärliner 14:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean now. I meant that now you were being nice, but earlier you snapped, and I never know what to expect from you because I can't tell when your angry with me or when you're not.

And ok i will change the others as appropriate then. I-R 14:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

i hav replyd on my talk page. I-R 14:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Barliner, do not re-put that on my page. you have no right to redo my talk page. We have already had this discussion on the AN, and it was proved that I was allowed to remove info that I didn't want. I-R 15:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Cleaning

Your very own Admin Mop

For all the help you've given to this wikipedia in cleaning up unsanitary piles of refuse, I award you with the Admin Mop. Use it wisely. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 15:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

For your information

IuseRosary, who has long been suspected of being Ben's friend Joe, has been editing the Mean Girls article. A sock puppet account on EN Wikipedia also had an interest in the same article there. It was an account that was made and blocked during the Iamandrewrice and friends debacle there. Just as a point of information for your and other admin's edification if you are considering any further action to be taken.

Also, just so you know, and a minor point, IuseRosary also seems to find it necessary to follow you and change your spelling in posts. knowledge is power. Jeffpw (talk) 17:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear. That person is not me, do a checkuser - or are you afraid of bbeing proved wrong? An explination for why I edited that article is at the bottom of my talk page. And, I saw the spelling mistake and thought i would change it, what's wrong with that? I did not 'follow' - you are just twisting things. Why are you doing this? I have been a mostly constructive editor, with the odd hickup from the beginning and I have contributed alot to the music section, I have created 11 new pages. I.Rosary 17:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar! ;-))) Cheers, Lights ^(talk) § 18:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Ditto :). --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Orthodox churches

Hello, how do you suggest we orginase them (Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Coptic), if possible intto one cat? - If we take Eastern Christianity, would that overlap with the Other christian church in Egypt (which is a Catholic one)? - What do we do when we get articles on the churches in Syria, Iraq, etc? --Eptalon (talk) 17:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Nontrinitarians

I have created Nontrinitarianism (which is Category:Christian theology); So we need a cat that we can put under Christian theology; where we can put those (Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, Arians...) - Ideas? --Eptalon (talk) 17:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

As a separate subcategory of Christian denominations, along with Protestantism this is a good idea. As the World Council of Churches defines a Christian Church as trinitarian, putting these others outside "protestantism" and "Catholicism" is justified by standard practice I think--Bärliner 18:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Brunstad Conference Center

I just though that I would let you know that Brunstad Conference Center has been created - it is 100% copy and Paste from enWiki with no simplifications what so ever as far as I can see. I.Rosary 18:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it is copy and paste. Too many typos :) --Bärliner 18:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, just thought it could be helpful, but you might wanna take a loo at this, the enWiki Article, to compare. [1] :)

I.Rosary 18:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Now it is at redone at Brunstad Conference Centre--Bärliner 18:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks a million for the help and rewriting of Brunstad Conference Center … just one thing, why did you move it to centre instead of center? The correct name is center, as you can see of all the three interwikis, and from BCC's webpage. The use of center and centre is splitted between UK and US. Again, thanks. --EivindJ (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

As I rewrote I used "RE" as the centre itself uses "ER" I will move the page.--Bärliner 18:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for both help and welcome greeting! --EivindJ (talk) 07:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandilism

Page Robbery has been created as vandilism, I cannot do anything because the article has been created, not edited. :-( I.Rosary 19:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted. And you can mark the page {{QD}} or {{non}}. Then it will be put into a seperate category and a bot will warn me after 10 minutes if it has not already been deleted. Thanks --Bärliner 19:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Ok, ill do that in future, Thanks :-)

I.Rosary 19:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Notes

I'll take out the notes section, but I'm leaving in the help section. Razorflame 20:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Check out my template. How many times do we welcome somebody--Bärliner 21:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I'll stop posting this in the future. Razorflame 19:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey, thanks a lot for the barnstar. It's nice to know somebody has noticed my efforts. adit (talk) 02:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Oysterguitarist

Did Oyster really mean to delete his own userpage? Razorflame 19:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)