User talk:Normandy/Archive 3

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Might be of interest

Hey! You might be interesting in helping here. Well, sorry for spamming, but that is usually the best way to get people's attention. ;-) -Barras talk 15:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

You're right, we've all been ignoring this side of things for a while (everything goes to pot in BG7's absences!). I'll take a look over the weekend and will try to help out. Cheers, Kennedy (talk • changes). 15:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks! If you want to do some minor stuff, then add some to my suggestions here. </spam> -Barras talk 15:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

 Done :) Kennedy (talk • changes). 15:18, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh this is the "Simple English" Wikipedia... thank you for deleting the sandwich talk page I was going to recreate it but... simple English articles... I'll leave them to people who are smart enough to write articles in simple vernacular! (No sarcasm intended either!!) Mshenay (talk) 15:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm really not sure what you're talking about. I didn't delete any pages (I've not had admin privs for a while now) and I see that you haven't edited here except for my page. Again, on the regular English Wikipedia I haven't deleted any pages. Have you got the right person? Kennedy (talk • changes). 16:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Kennedy, for taking part in my request for adminship, which closed as successful with 21 in favour and none opposed. I promise to do my very best in this new role! Regards, Osiris (talk) 06:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Plausible Prejudices

I also found New York Times and Houston Chronicle. I wish that Auntof6 wasn't so trigger happy with deletions for new articles. It's bad that the person that I went to for help nominated the article for quick deletion and then RfD. SL93 (talk) 16:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

As I pointed out, both of those reviews are industry puff pieces. You can tell by the fact that there is a subjective tone, little critical analysis, and a big price tag at the top. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't post those two reviews till now and I think that all those reviews show notability. I disagree with you and I can't be persuaded. SL93 (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

So it would seem... Osiris (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

You state you can't be persuaded, but it isn't about persuasion. Your opinion doesn't determine reality. You are ignoring an expert in literary criticism who has hundreds of pages on Wikipedia on the topic. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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23:55, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For your kind and warm answers and welcomes and your great work. You are definitely one of the users here that I admire and like here most. weltforce (talk) 15:57, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I wasn't fishing for one though, honest! :) Kennedy ^(talk) 16:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Discussion moved from ST

DJSasso, why are you so vitriolic towards change? Numerous improvements have been proposed to try to make things better here and you methodically reject them all, quashing all debate. There have been a number of suggestions which actually the majority favour yet you insist on repeatidly emphasising your opinion. It gets very tiresome when every suggestion is immediately knocked back by yourself. I tried to contact you peacefully on your talk page but you've taken no notice. In fact, your response there was typical of the behaviour I had tried to explain to you. Kennedy ^(talk) 11:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Because not all change is good, more often than not people on here try to make change for the sake of change without thinking about the bigger picture and how it could be affected by the change. If the majority favour the change then the change happens regardless of my opinion. Essentially what you are trying to tell me is don't have an opinion. Frankly this wiki needs more people to voice their actual opinions instead of just running around like sheep following whoever speaks first. And every suggestion is not knocked back, there are a number of changes in the past I have liked, but all the changes lately have been poor ones. Most of them centred around visual changes that are completely subjective where ones persons taste is different than another's. In regards to repeating my position, that is called debate, its how people come up with better solutions, by debating both sides of the proposal, an example is the disambig notice discussion that recently happened. Had I not objected and then debated my side and the others debated their side then the solution that everyone seemed to like would not have been arrived at. As for you contacting me peacefully, it was a lecture not a peaceful discussion, if you wanted to come off as peaceful you would have done so with out such an accusing tone. -DJSasso (talk) 11:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you need to learn to take criticism, as how on earth was it a lecture? I suggest you re-read the first few sentences of my message. I did not have an accusing tone, I simply reminded you to ensure our new users are welcomed. Your tone in discussions is always dreadful, you take no time to make it sound pleasant in the slightest. You come across as increadibly ill-mannered to pretty much everyone you speak to and I finally had enough of reading it. I suggest you improve on your manners. Yes, take that as an accusing tone if you will, my patience is wearing thin at your antics. Claiming I lectured you, and telling you not to have an opinion is a fallacy and only serves as an attempt to belittle my opinion, quote yourself; poisoning the well. Repeating your opinion over and over is not debating. I remember you were warned on that before, so this is not a new thing. Oh, and another point; you claimed in the past that I had abused you in IRC, thus you blocked me. Another fallacy. You did not want to discuss our disagreement and blocked me, using the abuse claim as cover. Kennedy ^(talk) 12:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

You are calling me ill-mannered. The guy that went around calling the entire wiki children and then proceeded to actively sock puppet and damage the wiki? You have very little credibility, you constantly blow up at people who disagree with you and then lash out when you don't get your way. Secondly I do not repeat my opinion over and over, I attempt to explain the reasoning for my opinion. Those are two different things. Secondly I have never blocked your account. Looking at the 5 known Kennedy accounts not a single block from me unless you had another sock that we don't know about or you are thinking about someone else especially since I wouldn't block for something that happened on IRC. If you recall I don't agree with doing anything on-wiki that has to do with off-wiki discussion. -DJSasso (talk) 12:26, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Depends on the context of my children comment doesn't it? You assume I meant you and the editors here. Anyway, I refer to the block as being on IRC, not WP. Bringing up the past alternative accounts is irrelevant and only embarrasses both me and you. I do not have an undisclosed account and suggesting such is insulting. Kennedy ^(talk) 12:36, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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(ec)You mentioned a block, one would naturally assume that means on the wiki. As for on IRC I don't even know how to block on there or even if I have the rights to do so, either way has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion that was going on in this thread to bring up something that was clearly a long time ago if it did happen because I rarely use IRC anymore. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. It is really that simple. I am not here to pat backs or make friends. I am here to build an encyclopedia not kiss ass and make everyone feel warm and fuzzy. I can't help that you don't like people that are blunt. That really is your own issue. That being said I apologize for thinking you meant on-wiki. -DJSasso (talk) 12:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it is your issue; WP:KIND. You are harming the building of the encyclopedia by discouraging users to help. Actually I think I am thinking of something else in regards to IRC, I apologise, please ignore that part it is incorrect. Kennedy ^(talk) 12:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

There is a difference between not being civil and being blunt. I make very sure to not start calling people names etc which would be uncivil. Just because I don't sugar coat my words does not mean I am uncivil. No one is required to be friends, they are just required to not be uncivil. -DJSasso (talk) 12:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Our opinions on what constitutes incivility obviously differs. I disagree, and would say that you have been uncivil and rude, and gave examples. Further examples can be given upon request. Kennedy ^(talk) 12:58, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

IEP 2.0 proposal

I regret that it was necessary to join you and others in disagreement with the IEP 2.0 proposal.

In my opinion, a better start-up plan was used in an SEWP pilot program in Japan. I mentioned it here, but two sentences may have been overlooked in the wall of words:

"... a very different kind of strategy has marked the development of a pilot SEWP program at Tokyo Medical and Dental University (TMDU) here and here. Strategic planning and context-building here and here were quite distinct from the IEP 2.0 proposal."

I would have thought we want to find ways to build on what works well. --Horeki (talk) 15:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Rangers

I think both the Rangers page and the Scottish Premier League page need attention, and you are the man to do it, I would say. Both pages should start with the present situation, because nothing in Scottish football is anything like as important as this. Regards, Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Haha! Thanks for the vote of confidence! :) You're right it needs done up desperately. I'll get on it soon. Try to get it back to GA maybe... Kennedy ^(talk) 09:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

What do you think of something like this: Scottish_Premier_League#Old_Firm Kennedy ^(talk) 11:32, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, as usual I'm mostly concerned about the intro, but I accept the whole saga may need a page of its own. Latest news is that the deal is not yet done, and is at the critical stage. I must say, I think the Scottish FA have been small-minded and vindictive. It will do nothing but damage to Scottish football to have Gers playing against part-timers in the bottom league. It will certainly damage Celtic, who could beat the rest with their reserve team. Well, whatever will happen, will happen. Regards, Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:34, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The next Big Weekend – 10 to 13 August

You are invited to take part in the next big weekend, the Big Space Weekend, on 10 to 13 August. Our goal is to increase the number and quality of space-related articles. For full details, see Simple Talk. DJDunsie (talk) 20:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Stats page

Hey Kennedy! Hope you are doing good... Can you please take a look at the thread I posted on simple talk about adminstats? For an example of what I mean by hardcoding, I've used your stats page (hope that's okay). You can see what it would look like here. Since the number of edits won't be accurate anymore, you can remove those rows. Or you might want to speak to Cyberpower about keeping yours bot-updated. For those that are inactive, I don't see the point, but yours is a different story. Osiris (talk) 05:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Osiris, I'm doing well, hope you are too. I did not know about that page, of course you may edit it. Not being administrator now I don't think it is useful to have it at all. I certainly wouldn't bother with unnecessarily bothering a bot to continually update only an edit count... Perhaps if the day ever comes (:P) when I will be an admin again it may be worth it, but I wouldn't say so just now. Best regards, Kennedy ^(talk) 19:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that's fine then I'll just get rid of it. I don't know what you want to do with your /stats page, but the code is in the revision history if you want it, if not you can just QD it. Thanks, Osiris (talk) 23:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Kennedy, thank you for voting in my request for adminship, which closed as successful with 7 supports and 0 opposes. I promise to do my very best in this new role! Best wishes, @intforce 11:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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