User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment/Archives/2019

About Peng Kang Hill station (simple English)

I beg to pardon. You said the article was a near carbon copy. Carbon copy of what? I will be frank. It's not a carbon copy. Allkayloh (talk) 00:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

The closest resemblance is the standard English version of the Peng Kang Hill station page. Allkayloh (talk) 00:03, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Allkayloh: My apologies; I made a mistake. IWI (chat) 00:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Only: (tps) As someone who had simplify a enwp train station article Sembawang MRT station, I will like to say that IWI tagging of A3 isn't too off. The sentences are really complex and currently, there isn't any work. It looks quite like the enwp article, so could you consider an A3. I can help to simplify, but the station itself lacks notabilty currently also, but not so close to A4. Can you advice us what to do, thanks. Just to note there isn't proper attribution also. --Cohaf (talk) 15:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

I don’t have time to look at this further today so you’re always welcome one to ask another admin to look at it. But I declined it because the user had been working on it over the course of 10-15 minutes and had just edited it 3 minutes prior to the QD tag. I think that my declining it to allow the user to continue to work on it was more than reasonable. Only (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@Only:I understand your point but the user stop editing after that tag was slapped. I personally will wait for a little while longer, say 30 minutes or so. Thanks for your input and I think I'll QD it again. Regards, --Cohaf (talk) 16:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:February 2019 events

I saw your edit summary for the creation of this category. It now has three entries, so it's fine now, but two entries is too few for most categories. See Wikipedia:Categories#Is there a need for the new category? for the guideline on this. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Guidelines aren’t to die by. There were going to be more articles to add to it, obviously and that’s what I meant. Your intentions are good and I respect that. IWI (chat) 22:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

Hi, I am Rectify 54. Just to let them know that Wikipedia has more articles per website. Please, check and remind us. Thank you. Rectify 54 (talk) 19:05, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Rectify 54: I don’t understand what you have said. IWI (chat) 19:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I edit pages for the right sentence for paragraphs. Rectify 54 (talk) 19:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Rectify: I’m really sorry but I still don’t understand. IWI (chat) 19:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

September 11 attacks

Hi, IWI. I was looking at your changes to September 11 attacks. Please be sure to use simple language and simple sentence structure in your changes. You added or created sentences that could be divided. Also, if you add a piece of information, include a reference. If it's something that you personally know (such as the second WTC impact being broadcast live), that's what Wikipedia calls original research and it's not allowed.

Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I’ll be sure to use enwiki’s sources. I don’t know what other words to use without change it the meaning entirely though. IWI (chat) 00:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

If you want to give me specific examples, I can try to help with that. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:01, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Use past participle in passive voice construction

See comment in talk page of: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:British_Columbia

The "copying" problem

It is true that I copied the English Wikipedia, but I DID simplify the contents. Just check it out. A planetree leaf (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

As a foreigner I do believe that the content is simple enough to read.A planetree leaf (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

It would be great if you can help make the content even more simple. I will add something like "simplified from the English Wikipedia" next time I copy something from the English Wikipedia. A planetree leaf (talk) 14:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

A3

Just wanted to let you know as you may not have realized. Just being the same as what is on en.wiki does not meet A3. If the text that was brought over was already simple it is completely legitimate. They do still need to say they copied it from there. And if I were you I would just remind them of that in the future. I have attributed the ones you just put up for speedy as they were almost all simple enough. -DJSasso (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

@Djsasso: Understood. IWI (chat) 14:52, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

User:IWI

I completely get where you're getting at with these edits - it might be problematic on the other hand as there is a user under that name already. Do you have plans to usurp it? Hiàn (talk) 16:57, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

I've deleted them since they're non-existent users and there is someone else there who could, in theory, utilize that page. If you usurp it, that'll be fine to make the redirect as a doppelganger. Only (talk) 17:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

@Only: That user has never made an edit and it is abandoned. I may be being stupid but how do I usurp. I certainly do not want to change the name of this account. IWI (chat) 19:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

You’d have to make a dummy account that the stewards would move to the new username. I don’t know if they’d allow that for the purposes of a doppelgänger though. Only (talk) 20:59, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

@Only: I don’t think so either. It’s not a big deal for me anyway. IWI (chat) 21:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Ketone Category

Hello! Thank you for creating Category:Ketones. However, we normally need at least three pages in a category before it is created. Because categories are a way to group together similar articles, there is no need to create a new category for just one or two articles. If you think there might be more pages to add to the new category, please add them now. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 01:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I planned to create ketone articles later. I've just created butanone, so I have sufficiently populated it. IWI (chat) 16:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good. As you know, though, we have a three-entry rule. Please wait until there are already three articles before creating a category.

Besides that, I changed a lot of articles that you overcategorized. Please don't categorize things in more than one place in a branch of the category tree. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I will pay closer attention to the tree in the future, which I oversighted. What happened was I made the Category with the intention of immediateley creating ketone articles, but then became preoccupied. In future, I will create the category when there are three to add. Thanks for your help, Auntof6. Your input both here and the project overall is greatly appreciated, sometimes I wonder how this wiki would get on without you. IWI (chat) 19:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Question: Why is not possible index user page?

Hi. I found the option by looking in the visual editor. What is the reason for not being able to index the user page? Thank you.

(Bgmaster (talk) 22:21, 13 March 2019 (UTC))

(talk page stalker) @Bgmaster: The purpose of indexing a page is to have its contents show up in web searches. None of the things allowed on user pages need to show up in web searches. If you want the personal information on your user page to show up in web searches, that indicates that you are using Wikipedia as a web host, which is not allowed. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:13, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bgmaster: Just saw this. Yeah, what ^ they said. IWI (chat) 15:43, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Movies banned in China

Please stop striking out other users' comments, even if the user is a sockpuppet. If you think it's necessary, you can bring things to the closing admin's attention by adding a comment after the text you think is a problem. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Very well. IWI (chat) 21:35, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

2019 Utrecht shooting

It remains unclear until now, but there is also the possibility the attack was caused by a broken relationship instead of being a terrorist attack. I have been following it this afternoon on Dutch sites. Several witnesses claim he went especially for a woman, and deliberately tried to shoot the people trying to help her after that. But those witnesses all agree on one thing: they heard someone calling "Allahoe Akhbar". We just have to wait and see. Maasje (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Maasje: We'll follow official reports for now. Do you speak Dutch? IWI (chat) 16:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, but even Dutch authorities are not very sure about his motivation behind the crime at this moment. But the guy they are looking for certainly is no saint. Since 2012 he has been accused of rape, violence, theft, burglary and firing a weapon. "100 procent zekerheid hebben we nog niet. Het zou ook kunnen dat het in relationele sfeer is." translated: "We don't have 100% certainty. It could also be relational" and "Het is niet uitgesloten dat er meer verdachten zijn." translated "We cannot rule out more suspects" as I read a few minutes ago here (the official Dutch public broadcast internet channel). Maasje (talk) 16:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Maasje: Well, I guessed he was no saint; he killed 3 people. I wouldn’t be against you correcting it, as long as you add those sources. IWI (chat) 16:54, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

If I have time and more hard-needed facts I'll try to look into it tomorrow. By the way, additional info (but I don't know how reliable) I found here. Even more fun! Seems that Dutch police locked him up a few years ago for "having relationships with IS" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant) and a local businessman over there stated he fought in Chechnya. I'll just have to wait for facts. Maasje (talk) 17:08, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Raciology

The word "raciology" is in dictionaries, but its etymology, provenance and historic importance are not discussed in Wikipedia. The word was popularized by a Colonial School formed in Nazi Germany, under the belief that the scientific study of "race" was a necessary component of colonization on non-white countries by Nazi Germany.

I would like to post the same definition of raciology that is found in Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam's Dictionary instead of the summary treatment now given to the word, which does not even include the dictionary definition.

I can post this information within the existing section on scientific racism, but I would like assurance that my well researched study of the German's efforts to study "raciology" will not be removed.

The article is complete and, as you know, I have been formatting and posting it a bit at a time. FrancisLloydHolland (talk) 23:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@FrancisLloydHolland: While I respect that, there are two problems.

• The format does not fit our manual of style
• You are not allowed to put links in text IWI (chat) 23:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Well done on keeping your calm during the onslaught! ;) --Yottie =talk= 19:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Yottie: Thank you very much. IWI (chat) 19:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Article

ImprovedWikiImprovment, I was going to be working on that article and you auto quick delete template it.. --Dreamlover8 (talk) 18:27, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Dreamlover8: If you are actively working on an article, you can put a template on it to let people know that. One such template is {{under construction}}. This is not a guarantee that the article won't be deleted, but it might prevent that for a while. If you will be working on the article for more than a day or two, consider creating a sandbox page in your userspace, where you can work on it longer.--Auntof6 (talk) 19:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@Dreamlover8: Yeah exactly; I had no way of knowing that. From the way the page was at the time, it fit into the quick deletion policy. IWI (chat) 20:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment please don't jump to conclusions. --Dreamlover8 (talk) 20:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

@Dreamlover8: I use the information I have to make the right decision, that’s not jumping to conclusions. IWI (chat) 20:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Even at the first edit, it would not have fallin into that QD criteria. Being short is not a candidate for A1. Vermont (talk) 22:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

With all due respect, Vermont, "Snapple is a flavored beverage in the United States" is not an encyclopedia article. It had very little meaning. IWI (chat) 23:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Short != no meaning. It was a full sentence which accurately described the subject. Expanding an article is always optimal over deleting it. Vermont (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

That vs Which

Spotted this. Interesting, albeit not necessary. In British English there is a tendency to use that and which interchangeably in that type of clause. I thought it may be interesting for you to know, therefore, that it is not necessarily a mistake. --Yottie ^=talk= 01:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Yottie: Hi there. In this case, "which" can only come after a comma. If a comma isn’t there it should say that. It is a mistake, even if colloquially it is often mistaken. IWI (chat) 13:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I beg to differ and suggest reading the University of Oxford Style Guide (see page 12). At least that's what I was taught there! Yottie ^=talk= 13:32, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Yottie: There are brackets used there, which changes the syntax. The reason why that sentence was wrong is actually quite complex and is explained well here. IWI (chat) 13:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I looked at the wrong page. Basically, that is wrong. If a comma wouldn’t make sense, then "that" should be used, not "which". IWI (chat) 13:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

New templates

Hi, IWI. I noticed that you created Template:Bartable without its doc page. Please be sure to bring over doc pages when you bring templates from enwiki. If you'd like an admin to import a doc page for you (or even to import the main template itself), just leave a note in the admins' notice board. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)