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Guideline on geographic places: IntroductionEdit

Species notabilityEdit

Does Simple have a guideline on the notability of species, specifically that they are presumed notable? I know that English Wikipedia does, and have been creating articles based on that. Diadophis (talk) 03:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes we follow the same as en.wiki. -DJSasso (talk) 13:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
I couldn't actually find a source for a guideline on enwiki that says "species are presumed notable". I looked. I don't doubt it, mind you, but it would be very helpful to be able to point to it, especially when we need to talk about things on the boundary, such as (a) unattested/​hypothesized/​weakly-attested extinct species, or (b) taxonomy levels possibly below species-level. Do either of you know where that guideline is? StevenJ81 (talk) 17:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
The vast majority of such presumed notable practices (a good example is high schools) are unwritten and just done because its so easy to find the 3 sources needed for notability. This one I do believe has one but I am drawing a blank at the moment to think of what it is. I will see if I can find it. Don't forget in the situations you mention, it is still likely those things have been written about a couple times and if they aren't then can still be deleted. Presumed doesn't mean for sure. -DJSasso (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
This is the first I've heard "the 3 sources needed for notability". Is that in our guidelines, or enwiki's? --Auntof6 (talk) 19:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Ours and theirs, you need sources from multiple sources per WP:GNG. Multiple is taken to be 3+ because two would be a couple. -DJSasso (talk) 19:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Although looking at ours now I think we simplified multiple to "a number" which is probably too vague. But the general idea is you need to show multiple sources considered you worthy of note. Not just one, two is pretty borderline. -DJSasso (talk) 19:23, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I was referencing EN:Wikipedia:SPECIESOUTCOMES. The argument is that all species must have something about them published in order to be recognized as species, and are therefore notable. Using that logic, contested species might be more notable than uncontested ones, as they would need sources both to claims of their existence and to the claims that they shouldn't exist. I don't know where that leaves weakly-attested species, though. Diadophis (talk) 02:30, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
That is right, that is what I was looking for. -DJSasso (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

This article is fineEdit

I disagree with the template message that says the article uses too complicated English. This page doesn't need to be simple. If people don't have a suitable understanding of English, they will not be able to adequately comprehend the sources so they should not be creating articles.Naddruf (talk) 21:14, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: This is the Simple English Wikipedia. Sorry, but if an article exists, it has to be simple. For non-simple articles, please go to the English Wikipedia. Thanks. rollingbarrels (talk) 21:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@FNAFPUPPETMASTER: This isn't an article is it? It's a guide to writing and editing articles.Naddruf (talk) 13:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Everything written on this wiki is supposed to be in simple english, articles or guides. Technically even talk on talk pages (though that rarely happens). -DJSasso (talk) 14:21, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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