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Filling in bare references
changeHi, Chenzw. I noticed this edit. When I did something similar, TDKR undid it. He said that when one of those list of deaths pages gets full, having the full citation templates makes it take too long to load the page. I don't know how much of a problem it really is, but on those pages they don't use the templates. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:18, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Deaths in 2016
changeHey Chenzw thanks for your help! But in the article Deaths in 2016 it is a requirement that all references must be in [http:www//] format rather than the completed cite web. According to the English Wikipedia it will prevent the article from loading too much. Remember that there might be over 100 deaths in this article for January alone! If your confused check out Deaths in November 2015. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Can you undelete this article and userfy it to my User:Nepaxt/B sandbox, please? I need the article for a user. Thank you. //nepaxt 02:37, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I will not undelete the article. I will email you with more details. Chenzw Talk 03:15, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
- Could you please at least provide the content of the deleted page? My brother was not attempting to blatanty self-promote himself, but rather just write a short sentence or two about himself, which yo my knoweledge is acceptable on a personal user page. WikiInternetWeb (talk) 03:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- @WikiInternetWeb: I have restored it to User:Ййпбшпсрлщевм/Вфйаодхъ. In the interests of readability and accessibility for other readers and editors on this wiki, please also translate the contents to English. Chenzw Talk 03:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Done Thanks. WikiInternetWeb (talk) 03:30, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- @WikiInternetWeb: I have restored it to User:Ййпбшпсрлщевм/Вфйаодхъ. In the interests of readability and accessibility for other readers and editors on this wiki, please also translate the contents to English. Chenzw Talk 03:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- Could you please at least provide the content of the deleted page? My brother was not attempting to blatanty self-promote himself, but rather just write a short sentence or two about himself, which yo my knoweledge is acceptable on a personal user page. WikiInternetWeb (talk) 03:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 06 January 2016
change- News and notes: The WMF's age of discontent
- In the media: Impenetrable science; Jimmy Wales back in the UAE
- Arbitration report: Catflap08 and Hijiri88 case been decided
- Featured content: Featured menagerie
- Recent research: Teaching Wikipedia, Does advertising the gender gap help or hurt Wikipedia?
- WikiProject report: Try-ing to become informed - WikiProject Rugby League
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Incorrect edit?
changeYour bot tagged a page that I created for deletion when it was not vandalism. Its a perfectly good article about the Power Mac G5. Ipadguy (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Your bot
changeYour bot did a false revert, and Added an Incorrect warning to a user.
I do belive the bot should get a little bit of a fix, I've already Reverted the bot edit, but didn't remove the warning. SleepyMode (talk) 16:01, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- I have added that particular edit to the training database. The bot works by "learning" from the different features in each edit (eg. number of words added, ratio of punctuation added). Every new report (be it false positive or false negative) will allow it to become more accurate. Thanks for reporting this! Chenzw Talk 16:05, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Template:Pokémon directory
changeHi, Chenzw. I was looking through the unused templates to see if there were any we could delete, and I came across Template:Pokémon directory. You created this in June 2008. It seems like the main point of the template is the sublists, but they are all red links. Do you think we could delete this one? --Auntof6 (talk) 07:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it can be deleted. If I remember correctly, at that time, there were a few Pokemon-related RfDs, and I created the template then while trying to kickstart the addition of content on notable Pokemon. Looks like that effort has died down. Please feel free to put it up for RfD. Chenzw Talk 11:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
An editor has requested deletion of Template:Pokémon directory, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").
Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2016/Template:Pokémon directory and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Auntof6 (talk) 12:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikimedia no longer uses visitor statistics from comScore. [1]
- You can make interactive graphs with the Graph extension. There is now a tutorial for how to do this. [2]
Problems
- Some pages do not turn in up in categories where they should be. This is because link tables are sometimes not populated. [3]
Changes this week
- The Nuke extension will work with Flow. This will make it easier to handle spam in Flow. [4]
- New file uploads will now be patrollable. [5]
- Internet Explorer 8 will no longer have JavaScript support. You will still be able to browse and edit Wikipedia if you use Internet Explorer 8, but will not be able to use some features. This can be solved by upgrading to a newer version or switching to a different browser. [6][7]
Meetings
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You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
URLs in the recent changes IRC feed will no longer be rewritten to unencrypted HTTP. This could be a breaking change for bots dependent on the IRC feed. [8]- The edit tabs for the wikitext editor and the visual editor will be combined to one single edit tab. You will be able to choose which one you prefer. If you are not logged in, your choice will be saved as a cookie in your browser. You can test the single edit tab. [9][10]
- There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. This works much like the links to for example Wikipedia articles in other languages. It will go out of beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled. [11][12]
- The difference between "alerts" and "messages" notifications is unclear to some. The developers want feedback at the Phabricator task or on MediaWiki.org so they can make this better. You can give feedback in your language if you can't write in English.
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16:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with your bot
changeI was editing the service animal page which appeared to me to have been hit with some self-promotional material regarding helper monkeys. That section had additional material not included for other animals, external links, and name dropping. I removed the excess and entered an explanation that that is what I was doing and why. I also accidentally removed a category heading which I went back to repair, but it had been automatically reverted.
There are a good number of errors on that page as well that I wanted to correct. I am an expert on service animals. I own and operate ServiceDogCentral.org. I also have a traumatic brain injury and a particular interest in this idea of having a simpler wikipedia available for people like me who struggle with reading and for my some of my autistic people who have a similar problem. I would like to correct these factual errors and have no intention of adding any links to my own website. I only want the information to be 1. accurate and 2. simple. I think my objectives are exactly inline with wikipedia's objectives for this page.
Stashkitty (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your report. I have added your edit to the bot's database. The bot works by "learning" from pre-classified edits to determine features which makes an edit vandalism (or not). The bot operates on a series of algorithms, and please be assured that it was not the intention to discriminate in any way when your edit was reverted. Chenzw Talk 23:19, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh, I realize it was a mindless bot and that bots are necessary to deal with vandalism. I just wanted to be able to carry on with improving the page. Thanks! 173.31.200.28 (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Had to laugh....
changeAn IP user created a new talk page on an existing article. The IP editor then put some gibberish on the page. Your bot tagged it for deletion. The standard form, when applied to a talk page, says: If you think this talk page should not be deleted, please add {{Wait}} below this message, and then say why on this talk page's talk page. (I then reverted the gibberish, added a comment to the talk page, and removed the qd tag since it no longer applied). Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 18:36, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Here's one for the bot database
changethis edit from October was not reverted by human or bot; only found it when reviewing subsequent vandalism and was looking for stable version to revert back to. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 10:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! I have added it. If there's sufficient volume and quality of such train-able edits I may find some time to allow others to add these edits in by themselves. Chenzw Talk 13:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Sorry about that!
changeI'm sorry about the Oscar Romero page i did not know what i was doing as i am new to Wikipedia i saw a mistake in the text and ended up deleting half of the writing. I'm very sorry. Also where can i find the sandbox? —This unsigned comment was added by 109.148.156.156 (talk • changes) 19:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) IP user's question about a sandbox has been answered on the user's talk page. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 20:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 13 January 2016
change- News and notes: Community objections to new Board trustee
- In focus: The Crisis at New Montgomery Street
- Editorial: We need a culture of verification
- Op-ed: Transparency (by James Heilman)
- Blog: Inside the game of sports vandalism on Wikipedia
- Community view: Strategy and controversy
- In the media: War and peace; WMF board changes; Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedias
- Traffic report: Pattern recognition: Third annual Traffic Report
- Special report: Wikipedia community celebrates Public Domain Day 2016
- Featured content: This Week's Featured Content
- Arbitration report: Interview: outgoing and incumbent arbitrators 2016
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You will be able to find or mark bugs and suggestions in Phabricator that are specific for your language or wiki. [13]
- Notifications have been upgraded with more detailed and easier-to-access information. See the documentation. Cross-wiki notifications will be available soon on the two test wikis. [14]
Changes this week
- The visual editor uses the TemplateData extension to make editing templates easier. You will now get a warning when you edit a TemplateData form and leave it without saving. [15]
- MediaWiki will get a new authentication and authorization system called AuthManager. This is planned to happen in a month or two. Some bots will need to change how they log in. Two new and more stable authentication methods will be available now: Owner-only OAuth credentials and bot passwords. You can read more about the change. [16]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 January. It will be on all Wikipedias from 21 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is governance model. The meeting will be on 20 January at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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17:55, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
missworking bot
changeThe bot did cut out my added expression "Hi there, I am using whatsapp" on the Al-Qaeda:talk. How could that happen? In my opinion whatsapp is a very important fragment of the communicational globalization process. And finally a Wikipedia bot being a bot for a foreward-looking internet portal should not gag such important messages! —This unsigned comment was added by 91.2.41.113 (talk • changes) 14:38, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) The bot is working correctly. The talk page for the article is for discussing improvements to the article. While your opinion on the importance of any particular app may be shared by many, the fact that you are using it is not relevant in any way to improving the article. Some editors create accounts for use here, and having created an account, they may mention on the user page for that account that they use or like a particular app -- this would an ok place to mention something like this, although ultimately, even user pages are intended for improving the encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not social media. Etamni | ✉ | ✓ 18:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) If you want people to contact you about your changes using WhatsApp, it's fine to put a link on your own user talk page. That's the only appropriate place for it. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Socks
changeI'm starting to get an idea of where socks go when they disappear in the laundry! --Auntof6 (talk) 02:33, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 20 January 2016
change- News and notes: Vote of no confidence; WMF trustee speaks out
- Op-ed: Not a pretty picture: Thoughts on the "monkey selfie" debacle
- In the media: 15th anniversary news round-up
- Traffic report: Danse Macabre
- Featured content: This week's featured content
- Blog: Fifteen years ago, Wikipedia was a very different place: Magnus Manske
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now follow when pages are added or removed from a category on German Wikipedia. The plan is to add it to Wikimedia Commons and other Wikipedias this week. [17][18]
- Administrators can hide individual entries of a page with RevisionDelete. There is now a button to choose "all", "none" or "inverse" in Special:Log. The article history will get the same buttons soon. Wikis that have done this locally with JavaScript will be able to remove that code. [19]
Changes this week
- You will be able to see the references when you preview a section you are editing. This will happen even if there is no <references /> tag in that section. [20]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 January. It will be on all wikis from 28 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 26 January at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- There is now an extension called ArticlePlaceholder. It can automatically generate content on Wikipedia with data from Wikidata if there is no Wikipedia article. It will have a tag to remind the reader it is not an article and ask the reader to create one. The developer is now looking for smaller Wikipedias that want to try the extension. [21]
- The OTRS system will be upgraded. The plan is to do this on 3 February at 08:00 (UTC). It will probably take 6 to 8 hours. OTRS will be down during the upgrade. [22]
- Users will soon be automatically congratulated when they reach some edit count milestones. [23]
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16:38, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Abuse filter
changeHey Chenzw, hope you're doing well. I'm not sure who manages the abuse filter here (I know there isn't edit filter managers), but this sort of edit should be getting at least warned and tagged, if not disallowed. Riley Huntley (talk) 01:46, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The abuse filter would be too specific and prone to false negatives in this case. I will let my anti-vandalism bot handle this instead. Previously the sandbox was on the bot's exclusion list. Chenzw Talk 02:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)- On second thought, the abuse filter is possible here. I will try and get a rule written within the next few days. Chenzw Talk 02:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Personally, I don't think that change was so terrible on the sandbox page. There have been worse changes there, IIRC. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:58, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- However, it seems that 166.216.130.0/24 is abusing the sandbox, over a few days already. The next time the IP makes the same type of edits, I am going to block that range. Chenzw Talk 03:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Personally, I don't think that change was so terrible on the sandbox page. There have been worse changes there, IIRC. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:58, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- On second thought, the abuse filter is possible here. I will try and get a rule written within the next few days. Chenzw Talk 02:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)