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Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 08:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Pull TP and Email

Can you pull them on 2A01:B340:63:FEC5:18F0:4E9A:6B68:F8D7 please? Thx Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 08:39, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Recent block

Are you sure you want to block that IP address indefinitely? I know that the edits were bad but we don't normally block IP addresses for that long, do we? Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Hockeycatcat Sometimes it can be indefinite based on the history and how many times they have been blocked. There may be something in the background we don’t know because we don’t have access to those pages. Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 09:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Nope, IPs should never be blocked indefinitely because IPs change. Even proxies are only blocked for a few years at most. Apart from deleted contributions, there is nothing more admins can see compared to non-admins. And this IP in particular only edited today. --Ferien (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien Unless it is static to that user and they are using it for some type of evasion. I see the stewards doing it all the time. Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 09:28, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Ferien is correct; I've changed it. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:30, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Even for very long-term users, you don't need to block for indefinite. That is pretty much the only exception enwiki describes but I don't think indef blocks are even appropriate for that. If things get really really bad, then you could block for years at a time instead. On enwiki, where indefinite blocks are sometimes used on purpose, there has only been one IP indefinite block in 2022, and by the looks of it, it was an accident! --Ferien (talk) 14:54, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien There are exceptions listed lol Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 09:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Blackslough

Hello, excuse me, what does C.E. mean? N1TH Music (talk) 19:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It stands for Copy Edit. Wikipedia:How_to_copy-edit Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 20:05, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb And were my edits considered overdetailed? N1TH Music (talk) 07:22, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

• I don't think this discussion belongs here. It has nothing to do with me. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:25, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

  (talk page stalker) Hey Mac - They are asking you because you did the CE. on Blackslough. It looks like you removed all of the census tables. They ask me the same things too. I cannot speak on your behalf for your reasoning, even though I have some thoughts. Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 15:52, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

• I think this is a perfectly good page as it is now, and needs no further changes. Move on. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Well as is, there's no established notability. The place isn't populated now and before I discovered the census data I had made an article on enWiki which was deleted for not being notable. It's not a populated place now, it isn't a very important forest, without the historical sources (e.g the census data) there's nothing or real substance in the article. Granted there are some modern sources which can talk about the geography, history, conservation and recreation of the area, but again nobody cares about the history of a forest but a former settlement matters more. N1TH Music (talk) 09:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• Take to RfD if not satisfied. Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

  @Macdonald-ross The Data is there, the data which proves notability, there's no need to take it to Rfd if we just include the necessary details in the article. I've simplified it a bit. Removing the decades without a clear table as a reference, and I'm sure it's ok now. (Just needs more a little expanding. N1TH Music (talk) 13:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

LaFlia Contenidos

Being dealt with in WP:RFU. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Priyanka Rani Joshi

Hi there, I saw that you quickly deleted one of the pages that I created, and I didn't even get any notifications regarding it. She passed WP:MODEL and WP:BIO and has won the Miss Nepal World title. I request you to restore the page.  DIVINE  09:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

It's obvious that the proposer and myself did not think notability was established. The place to consider this would be WP:Deletion review. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Breach (band)

Could you please undelete Breach (band)? It wasn't a redirect... Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The page still does not establish the band's notability. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Block extension

In your recent block, the IPs making the racist edits are from this IPv6 range: 2607:FEA8:FE10:8045:0:0:0:0/64, could you extend the block to that range? thanks. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 08:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

And that's all of them!

Thank you for deleting all those pages! Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 17:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Archiving your TP

Hi Mac,

So the logs of PDLBotArchiver (the automated bot to archive pages) show that it cannot archive your talk page due to the ending of your config. Can you move the closing }} to their own line below it. You can see an example at User_talk:PotsdamLamb/testarchive/mac. This will allow it to be archived on the next run at 0:00 UTC. Thanks - Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 17:22, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi I saw your changes. I meant on your Miszabot/config at the top of your page when in edit mode, it should look like |minthreadstoarchive = 1
}}

I hope that helps. Thanks - Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 14:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Quick random question

I'm not sure if I talk about this to you, but have you seen Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis pop up on the Very Good Article section of the main page? I haven't seen it yet so I'm not sure her selected article is queued to appear on the main page? Thanks! TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:37, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

I think it's OK, but Ep is really in charge of this section! Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:53, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:RFP

Hello @Macdonald-ross, I made a request on WP:RFP for patroller rights. It's five days past but no response came. Can you review my request? DRC (User:TTP1233) (talk . e-mail . contrib) 06:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

The delay might have something to do with your history. A Checkuser might be needed in your case. They will notice your request. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Apologies but I didn't get it. Are you relating something to my enwiki block? DRC (User:TTP1233) (talk . e-mail . contrib) 09:43, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Apology

I am sorry for my previous actions last month. DerekSquared (talk) 08:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Delation page Sheru photography

Hi there, I saw that you quickly deleted one of the pages that I created with notably and veryfied publication reference, which is deleted but I create because that is good article and I didn't even get any notifications regarding it. I request you to restore the page. 2409:4056:E11:14FF:15A6:D1A:B1D5:E101 (talk) 14:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

No, I will not. The page is effectively an advertisement, and has been deleted five times before. Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm already aware of the advertisement effectively page, so please don't tell a lie that page is effectively an advertisement, I did write that article with Wikipedia guidelines. But you broke the guidelines rule. Kullu story (talk) 10:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Amir zobdeh wiki

Greetings and Regards I am the program manager of Mr. Amir Zobdeh I wanted to know what is the reason why we write their wiki and you delete it for no reason? They are the first photomodels of Iran and these documents are available on Google as well as the global IMDB site Splendid Best regards 5.106.143.6 (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Basically, we are not a place for advertisements. IMDB and Google are. Our purpose is to be an encyclopedia. Wikipedia deletion rules can be found under Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:42, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Mr Mac!!!

Yes, you are right But do you think that our text about Mr. Amir Zobdeh was propaganda? A line and text, but correct And what was the achievement of the first Iranian photo model in Iran, is it advertising? And finally, can you introduce us to someone who will create Mr. Amir Zobdeh page on Wiki? 5.208.29.115 (talk) 07:56, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Charles, Prince of Wales

I am curious as to why you reverted a removal of factual errors twice on this article? The Queen is not dead, or at the very least, her death has not been reported on so we cannot assume that she is dead. --Ferien (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry for that. I'm not often misled in this way. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

It's alright. Mistakes happen. --Ferien (talk) 17:20, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

QD G8

Hello, I don't think this was a valid deletion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:57, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, you put it forward for quick deletion! If you want it discussed, then put it forward again for discussion. I've no objection. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

I had only requested deletion for the userpage as far as I can see, while the talk page had a notification of that nomination. Thanks for restoring it anyway. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Gujarat Ki Aawaz Main

Hi, Mac. Since you QD'd this article while there was an open RFD, would you please close the rfd? I think people actually wanted the rfd to complete so we'd have the precedent. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you are going to quick delete mid-RfD, which is almost always a bad idea, at least close it. I've informed you of this before, at User talk:Macdonald-ross/Archive 29#Deleting pages at RfD and I'm curious on why you're still doing it and not closing the RfDs in question, while not usually giving a good explanation as to why the RfD articles you quick delete had to be deleted so quickly. --Ferien (talk) 16:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

RfD nomination of The end justifies the means

An editor has requested deletion of The end justifies the means, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/The end justifies the means and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. SoyokoAnis - talk 16:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Pyromaniacs and 136.228.254.73

Hi, Pyromaniacs had some content in and is not eligible for A1. Please could you restore it. A lot of that IP's contributions seemed to be useful too... I'm curious why you blocked them at all, let alone for 2 weeks for creating four pages, half of which were good, without any warning whatsoever? --Ferien (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

It's just a ten-word dicdef, not even an article. But I have restored it. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:49, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 19:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Ferien There is also Pyromania. Lights and freedom (talk) 19:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Lights and freedom: thanks, I've just created a redirect. --Ferien (talk) 19:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Carl Zohan (actor)

Hello,

I have noticed you deleted an article name Carl Zohan. I understand, but the problem is someone wrote an article with this name last year and that article has been deleted due to notability.

Because of this, the new article was probably you deleted with the previous reason.

So I can't create article just named Carl Zohan. The one I want to write an article about has enough media coverage. He is an actor, and obviously he is a notable person.

So I want to create a new article, and I want to use title with person name like (actor/film actor) etc, waiting for your reply.

Thank you. Frryan404 (talk) 10:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

OK, go ahead. It sounds fine as a plan. But I see you have a whole series of pages which have been flagged. You should attend to our objections to those pages, and get to understand why they have been flagged or deleted. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:29, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for the reply, listen I'm new on Wikipedia. I just joined 9month ago. I have already written many articles, some active and some deleted. I'm not sure why some of my article are flagged. But I tried my best to make standard.

Anyway thank you. Frryan404 (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

"Native Americans"

I think this term for what ordinary people call "indians" is a bit precious. It's certainly not simple. Ordinary people in the U.S. use "indian reservation" as a term. I've travelled in about 15 of the states in the U.S. so I have some experience of how the language is used in various places.

Without meaning any disrespect to a downtrodden people, I think we should be careful of using terms which are (a) more complex linguistically, and (b) psychologically distancing from the reality. Of course, I accept that in academia, many words in frequent use in the U.S. are simply banned. But U.S. universities are strange places, not at all characteristic of how ordinary people speak. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:48, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

It isn't only academics who use the term. Just because "ordinary" people speak a certain way doesn't make it correct; "ordinary" people in the US use a lot of incorrect language, as I often have to explain to my ESL students.

Ah well, that of course is so true! Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

In this context, the term "Indians" (upper case, if you please) is not only offensive, it is ambiguous. For that latter reason alone, we should use "Native American". Saying that that's "precious" is a bit offensive in itself; it's actually respectful. In the UK, you may not understand this because you may not have the cultural issues the US has of indigenous people being called by offensive and/or inaccurate terms because people who came from elsewhere either were ignorant or wanted to dehumanize them.

And by the way, why are you talking to yourself? :) -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:18, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Since this is the Simple-English Wikipedia, we also have to account for the 'other' common meaning that the term 'Indians' mean. It majorly refers to the 'People of India'. We shouldn't confuse people, so we must always try to use the exact words (here, Native Americans) wherever possible.

I have come round to agreeing with this. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

By the way, I also appreciate the fact that you're bold enough to talk to yourself. It's often the best way to resolve problems and reflect on different viewpoints. :) Sugeeth Jayaraj (talk) 14:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)