User talk:Sonia/Archive 3
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Barnstar
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
I am proud to give this barnstar to Sonia, who has quickly and efficiently reverted a lot of vandalism recently! Please keep up the lovely work. And as a side note, I like your new signature. Warmly, —Clementina talk 08:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC) |
- Thank you! It's my first barnstar (on this Wikipedia, anyway.) sonia♫♪ 08:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
- I wonder why...a barnstar has been long overdue to you. :) I'm just sorry I couldn't give you one sooner...anyway, thanks once again for all your work here. You certainly make Wikipedia a much more pleasant experience! Sincerely, —Clementina talk 08:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Here...
...you go! Good luck. -Barras talk 09:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks :) sonia♫♪ 09:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Your new sig (copied version :p)
I like it. :) Belle tête-à-tête 06:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
You have messages
...at my talk. And I finally got around to !voting in your RfA (support, of course). Please accept my early congratulations. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, I was about to hit save on my reply when I saw this. With regard to the RfA... the chickens ain't hatched yet, really- but of course your trust is most appreciated. sonia♫♪ 02:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you
...for finding the right reason for Muralidhara swamiji's quick deletion. :) I was hesitating and wondering which criteria it would fit when you QD'd it. Anyway, good catch! I'm sure you'll be a much finer and faster admin than me in a few days. Thanks again! Sincerely, —Clementina talk 05:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. However, upon a closer search of it the second time it got created, I'm not sure if G4 actually applied- but it's exactly identical to this AfD on en. sonia♫♪ 06:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, thanks for the link, Sonia. I never check into the English Wikipedia these days so I'm quite ignorant of what's going on around there. ;) Next time I'll simply delete as non-notable. Cordially, —Clementina talk 06:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Stub cup 2010
Hi there Sonia! Congratulations for coming second in the Stub Cup 2010 of the simple English Wikipedia! You've reached 162 points, therefore you get a silver Wiki-award! Keep up the good work even without the cup. -Barras talk 09:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you; kudos to Either way though for leaving the rest of us in his dust :) sonia♫♪ 10:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thanks
Polymathsj (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Polymathsj (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. This page is always open if you need a hand. sonia♫♪ 07:01, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
how do i
Hello again. How do I change my signature? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polymathsj (talk • contribs)
- What do you want to change about it? There's a tutorial here; I have to go now. If you have any questions about it, feel free to ask back :) Cheers, sonia♫♪ 07:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Do you think that we could move that page to Wikipedia-space? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's on en. I could write a localised, updated version, but I think that making a sig shouldn't be first priority and putting it in project space may make it seem more compulsory than it is. sonia♫♪ 23:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- I thought about it. If you rewrite it, perhaps Help-space would be better than Wikipedia-space. Or it could be incorporated as a section of an entire page about prefs. It's not like it is a rule or anything. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- WP:How to make a signature πr2 (talk • changes) 03:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I would prefer if we rewrote it to reflect the tutorial here. It (the simple version) currently comprises only three sentences. No tbs necessary. I have this watchlisted. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- You're more than welcome to add information if you find it useful, TeleCom. sonia♫♪ 03:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think I'll userfy the english version first thing tomorrow, then replace the page PiR pointed out. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Go for it. There's a lot of irrelevant things (e.g. Esperanza) in the en one; may be better to get the general idea instead of directly userfying it. I suppose it would need to be attributed as well, but it depends on how much of the original you use. Cheers, sonia♫♪ 04:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think I'll userfy the english version first thing tomorrow, then replace the page PiR pointed out. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- You're more than welcome to add information if you find it useful, TeleCom. sonia♫♪ 03:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I would prefer if we rewrote it to reflect the tutorial here. It (the simple version) currently comprises only three sentences. No tbs necessary. I have this watchlisted. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- WP:How to make a signature πr2 (talk • changes) 03:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- I thought about it. If you rewrite it, perhaps Help-space would be better than Wikipedia-space. Or it could be incorporated as a section of an entire page about prefs. It's not like it is a rule or anything. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 03:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's on en. I could write a localised, updated version, but I think that making a sig shouldn't be first priority and putting it in project space may make it seem more compulsory than it is. sonia♫♪ 23:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Do you think that we could move that page to Wikipedia-space? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Congrats
You're now a sysop. I've just given you the mop. The consensus was clear to promote with 29 supports and no opposes. Please subscribe our mailing list. If you're on IRC, contact any admin for access to our IRC channel. Have fun with the tools! -Barras talk 10:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Here is your new admin t-shirt! Nifky^ 10:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats! See you in the admin channel. --Bsadowski1(Talk/Changes) 10:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Told you so! :) Congrats! fr33kman 12:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations, dear Sonia!! :D Not that there was any doubt, but... —Clementina talk 12:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Told you so! :) Congrats! fr33kman 12:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats! If you ever need any help, drop one of the other admins a message! --Gordonrox24 | Talk 14:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats! EhJJTALK 18:50, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations. :) I'm sure you'll do well. Lauryn Ashby (talk) 21:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats on winning the RfA! :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks all, and special thanks to Barras for the nom and Fr33kman for encouraging me to run :) TeleCom: it ain't mine to win. sonia♫♪ 23:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations, you are very deserving! Kansan (talk) 06:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Félicitations! I know that you'll be great with the tools.... And you could even block me... *~choke~* ;) Well anyway, I hope you enjoy the use of those tools. And don't stop being so kind now that you have the power! :p Warmly, Belle tête-à-tête 03:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations, you are very deserving! Kansan (talk) 06:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
おめでとうございます! I'm sure you will do a good job with teh powah! xD Cheers. Diego Grez let's talk 03:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Wish I had seen the RfA, but it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Have fun. –Juliancolton | Talk 12:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Bella: I'll try my hardest not to block you ;). Kansan, I am honoured that you think so. Diego: what did you mean by using that Japanese phrase in this context? Julian: *hugs* sonia♫♪ 02:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Simple News Issue 24
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Music
Do you love music? Polymathsj Talk 02:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- It is my livelihood, so I suppose so. (For future reference, user talk pages are intended for communicating with users about Wikipedia-related things, not for general conversation. That belongs off-wiki.) Regards, sonia♫♪ 02:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ditto for PiRSquared17's talkpage. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 02:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- TeleCom, he has already been warned by another admin. Please do not step into things that are already being handled by someone else and are nothing to do with you. (This extends to en as well). sonia♫♪ 02:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry. I'll remember next time. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 04:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Redirects
How do I add a redirect to a page? Polymathsj Talk 02:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Like this:
#REDIRECT Pagename
. sonia♫♪ 02:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)- Thanks. Polymathsj Talk 02:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Page change
I just looked at the bottom of Wikipedia:Banning_policy and noticed that the link for Range blocks went to a page which was changed to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Range_blocks. Can you please change it? Polymathsj Talk 03:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's supposed to do that. Sometimes a policy on MediaWiki is summarized on all projects so it isn't needed here. Poly, you should remember that Sonia isn't going to cure everything for you so you should explore other editors on this site so that she doesn't burn out from helping you all the time. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. @Kevin: the link went to meta. Which is fine, except the meta page had been moved to mediawiki. So I fixed the link. sonia♫♪ 03:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, totally lost there. Sorry Poly for the first half of that statement. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. @Kevin: the link went to meta. Which is fine, except the meta page had been moved to mediawiki. So I fixed the link. sonia♫♪ 03:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Mayra Verónica
- Hi. I'd been doing a major edit on the English site, which is admittedly too 'chatty' there. I started out to make it a sub-page of my WiP home page… and it looks like I didn't do that. Hmm… not sure why.
- Thanks for the link. I'll follow through with that.
- Replied on your talk, I will be happy to review the article when you are ready. Thank you. sonia♫♪ 10:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hi sonia! I wrote an article about the USO if you would like to check it.
- How can one link to an image that's on Wikipedia but not in Commons? Specifically, I'd like to include the USO logo that's in Wikipedia but not available in Commons. Thank you.
- --UnicornTapestry (talk) 18:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you cannot. Simple only allows the use of free images, thus our Commons only policy, and the logos of groups or organisations such as the USO or the NRA are protected by US Copyright law. Lauryn Ashby (talk) 21:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- --UnicornTapestry (talk) 18:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Lauryn's right. About the article: It is in reasonably good shape, but needs slight tweaking for simplicity and more importantly for neutrality- it reads as vaguely promotional. I'll do a quick copyedit when I get the time. Cheers, sonia♫♪ 04:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you both! I figured out why my initial attempt didn't take as a sub-page. As you surely deduced, I coded /[[Mayra Verónica]] instead of [[/Mayra Verónica]]… not so good.
- I'm going through the tutorials. I'm used to writing for European and South American markets, but there's a lot to learn.
- Thanks. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 08:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Don't thank me, you're the one doing the work. This is very good, if you could find another source for it and write another paragraph or two about her life and career, it would easily make DYK on the main page. sonia♫♪ 08:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Sonia! Would you mind taking a look at the Mayra Verónica article? Thank you.
- Having a read. I'll leave a full review on the talk page when I'm done. (And for future reference, there are things like peer review available.) Thanks for your work! sonia♫♪ 08:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome and thank you. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 08:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey!
You are awesome. :) Jon@talk:~$ 10:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- I try. :) Still not sure that it's the best wording, though. :P sonia♫♪ 10:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Polymaths
I noticed you commented on that as well. The guy was thought to be a sock and was blocked before; he got a "final chance" and it looks like he's abused it. I'm hitting the sack right now, but perhaps you can do something about him, at least until tomorrow when I'm more awake Purplebackpack89 06:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm aware of all that. Thing is, I can see a good-faith new user doing the same thing- since when he arrived he may have gotten the impression that all short pages can be deleted under A2. I don't think it's a blatant violation of that "final chance", so I am reluctant to block him if that's what you're suggesting. sonia♫♪ 06:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Infobox for Godsmack
just a quick thanks sonia. --Snakerunner837 (talk) 11:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Thank you for helping write articles for everyone to read! If you ever need a hand, this page is always open. sonia♫♪ 11:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Where do we go to post information about possible sockpuppetry or report a Sockpuppet investigation, like this? I can't even find the page on WP:Sockpuppetry. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- WP:RFCU πr2 (talk • changes) 20:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. (Ah, I forgot my username again!) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Dear Sonia, thank you, God bless
Dear Sonia, thank you, God bless :) "Strong.soldier23 (talk) 07:06, 23 July 2010 (UTC)"
- No problem! If you ever have any questions, feel free to ask them here. Regards, sonia♫♪ 07:09, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I will defenitley. thank you. Strong.soldier23 (talk) 07:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Re:Welcome
Well, I was patrolling recent changes when I suddenly came across your previous account. I admit that I was a bit perplexed by your response, but the truth is I have been out of the wiki a lot lately, and so I needed some catching up to do. It was more or less like an automated welcome template (I feel like such a bot now). :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- All right, no worries. I was just curious as to how you came across my alt. (And by the way, don't worry about editing sporadically– it's good to have a life! ;) sonia♫♪ 05:52, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I usually start at the bottom of RecentChanges and slowly work my way up the page, reverting vandalism and adding comments and welcome templates that some people may have missed along the way. I've responded to your comment on meta: I basically wanted the template I posted pasted onto the Simplequote main page for users like me who happen to stumble across the wiki and don't know what's happened; as the entire wiki appears to be fully protected, I could only post the editprotected request onto the talkpage of the closing discussion. Oh, and since you've followed through with my request on the AN archives, could you do the same for Wikipedia talk:Simple talk/Archive 1? I've already done the task for archives 36-85, hence Fr33kman gave me the flood flag, but I've yet to do the other archives since they're fully protected as well. (I've been given a huge lecture this morning about how hard the SAT test will be; please excuse me if I've been a little disconcerted tonight...) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- All right, will do. As for simpleWQ, the thing is that it's quite different from Wikibooks in that nothing needs to be merged back. I've noted your clarification, but as I am in no position to comment further, I didn't reply. sonia♫♪ 06:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Good luck with the SAT by the way; I didn't find it as hard as I thought it would be, so don't freak yourself out over it. sonia♫♪ 06:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- All right, will do. As for simpleWQ, the thing is that it's quite different from Wikibooks in that nothing needs to be merged back. I've noted your clarification, but as I am in no position to comment further, I didn't reply. sonia♫♪ 06:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I usually start at the bottom of RecentChanges and slowly work my way up the page, reverting vandalism and adding comments and welcome templates that some people may have missed along the way. I've responded to your comment on meta: I basically wanted the template I posted pasted onto the Simplequote main page for users like me who happen to stumble across the wiki and don't know what's happened; as the entire wiki appears to be fully protected, I could only post the editprotected request onto the talkpage of the closing discussion. Oh, and since you've followed through with my request on the AN archives, could you do the same for Wikipedia talk:Simple talk/Archive 1? I've already done the task for archives 36-85, hence Fr33kman gave me the flood flag, but I've yet to do the other archives since they're fully protected as well. (I've been given a huge lecture this morning about how hard the SAT test will be; please excuse me if I've been a little disconcerted tonight...) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Link
Thanks for the template link for the templates. (The link you gave me is for a template. That template contains the templates.) Confusing you? Hazard-SJ Talk 06:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Facepalm sonia♫♪ 06:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned Pages
Well, I found Special:LonelyPages and used it. I got tired. It really needs a bot now. I tried to make a bot to request it here, but its a headache. I dont really understand PHP. I have a Question. Is Huggle used here? If so, which is better? Huggle or Twinkle? Hazard-SJ Talk 08:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm... All right, a bot could probably do it quite quickly in that case. Huggle can be used here, but as you can see it would be rather slow and boring. Probably a better use of time to write articles. I use neither, but Twinkle is better for our purposes in my opinion. sonia♫♪ 08:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Flood
Forgot to ask, can you please remove my flood flag now? I need a bot for that templating. (Another user's bot...I can't create mine :() Hazard-SJ Talk 08:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. (I'm free!) Hazard-SJ Talk 08:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- No probs. Anything you need, this page is always open. sonia♫♪ 08:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Sonia. If you're there, can I be granted the flood flag too? I'm a day behind my usual welcome templates to new users, and I also need to clean up the stuff in the move logs like fixing the What links here to Help:Minor edit so that they point to the real page. Thanks, :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 20:13, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hello, TeleCom- do you still need it now? By the way, you do realize that not only is welcoming boring work, but we would also appreciate it much more if you could help write articles- after all, that's what this is about, no? The WLH and related things we can leave to automated processes to do, as there's better ways we can use your help. But I'd encourage you to get out into mainspace, find things you're interested in that don't have articles yet and write them. sonia♫♪ 22:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's ok, I had Yottie grant me the flag, and I suggested some automated process or other at Clementina's talkpage. As to writing articles, I'm still a little busy with this (which was from our discussion a bit back). Other than that, I was creating redirects like Perpetual Motion Machine of the third kind. Oh, and lastly, I think that I tend to welcome new users and place openproxy templates because I feel the need to introduce them to simpleWiki better and let them get ahold of the rules here, since this place is rather small compared to enWiki. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 22:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Aye, welcoming is important, but it shouldn't be your primary focus. And how does openproxy tagging help anything? sonia♫♪ 22:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- I find it standard to help those using an openproxy to create their own accounts free of the vandalism their proxies usually commit... :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 22:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Aye, welcoming is important, but it shouldn't be your primary focus. And how does openproxy tagging help anything? sonia♫♪ 22:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's ok, I had Yottie grant me the flag, and I suggested some automated process or other at Clementina's talkpage. As to writing articles, I'm still a little busy with this (which was from our discussion a bit back). Other than that, I was creating redirects like Perpetual Motion Machine of the third kind. Oh, and lastly, I think that I tend to welcome new users and place openproxy templates because I feel the need to introduce them to simpleWiki better and let them get ahold of the rules here, since this place is rather small compared to enWiki. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 22:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Done I've finished my scan of RecentChanges, so you can remove the flood flag now. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 00:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Openbot
Nothing went wrong (I think). All minor edits are showed in RC, even bots and flooders. Hazard-SJ Talk 09:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Something weird happened with the timer. Might have the wrong version on my pen drive. sonia♫♪ 09:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- If you'd like, the bot can be flagged as a bot, and will be hidden when people click "hide bots" (default). Just ask one of the crats, and they can give you the flag if the reason you want it makes sense. EhJJTALK 09:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. Given that it's not a bot with a set task, a permanent bot flag wouldn't be permitted, would it? If Hazard's right, I don't need the bot flag and should just uncheck the minor edit box- but I'm sure that it hasn't shown up in the past. Weird. sonia♫♪ 09:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- If you'd like, the bot can be flagged as a bot, and will be hidden when people click "hide bots" (default). Just ask one of the crats, and they can give you the flag if the reason you want it makes sense. EhJJTALK 09:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser (Mirror)
Can you please add me to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage? Do I download the same version as in en on (here)? Hazard-SJ Talk 09:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Download it here. When you've downloaded it, the documentation at enwiki isn't particularly clear, but it's good to read through. I screwed up dramatically on my first time using AWB, so I'm reluctant to add you to the checkpage myself at this point. sonia♫♪ 09:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Which of the three there? there are three files. Hazard-SJ Talk 09:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- The top one. sonia♫♪ 09:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Which of the three there? there are three files. Hazard-SJ Talk 09:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
I'll not mark them as minor (to prevent flooding RC). Hazard-SJ Talk 22:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Challenge Cup
The Purplebackpack Challenge Cup has begun! You can place your entries at User:Purplebackpack89/Purplebackpack Challenge Cup/Sonia, where they will be checked by the moderator and tabulated Purplebackpack89 03:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome. Will do, thanks. sonia♫♪ 03:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Welcome
Hello, Sonia. I have a question.
Question: Shouldn't IPs be welcome using {{welcomeip}} instead of {{welcome}}? Hazard-SJ Talk 06:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. But I like to use {{welcomevandal}} for those who make test-like edits instead of warning them, because editor retention is important. Many of them may not realize that editing regularly is even a possibility. I know I didn't when I made my account, and my welcome made all the difference. sonia♫ 06:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think it needs a link inviting them to join. Hazard-SJ Talk 06:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- (change conflict) Hazard, there's a list of welcome templates at Category:Welcome templates. You're welcome (pardon the pun) to review all the content in the template messages. Just a thought: maybe we should have a page entitled: "Help:Intro to welcome templates" :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that isn't necessary, as the welcome templates can be used as different forms in different ways. Hazard-SJ Talk 06:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- (change conflict) Precisely, and it's difficult to tell when to use what welcome template. For example, you were confused when Sonia used a {{welcomevandal}} template. So it's necessary to create such a page to distinguish the templates, provided there's enough consensus for the existence of such a page. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- @TeleCom:...No. Please. The system works fine as-is, and the page would get out of date pretty fast. @Hazard: I'm not too concerned about IPs editing (they'll figure out soon enough that accounts are possible), and welcomevandal is also used for registered users. I could make an automatic parser to detect if they are IPs or registered. Would that do? sonia♫ 06:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- (change conflict) You're probably right. But then again, I did mention having a discussion over at ST about a possible welcomebot on Clementina's talkpage. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ok...or how about another template? {{welcomeipvandal}} Hazard-SJ Talk 07:01, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think we need another template; just modify the ones we have. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Welcomebot, I'm not so sure about. But I'll see what I can do about more intuitive and friendly templates. sonia♫ 07:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Welcomebots have been shot down repeatedly. This a completely no-go. They are impersonal, people want to be welcomed by an actual person. Its why we also generally frown at people who go on a rampage welcoming every new user that shows up. It also tends to piss people off who have their talk pages set to email them, as they might have just SUL'd here and not intended to become an active contributer and are now spammed in their email by talk messages. -DJSasso (talk) 14:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Welcomebot, I'm not so sure about. But I'll see what I can do about more intuitive and friendly templates. sonia♫ 07:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think we need another template; just modify the ones we have. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that isn't necessary, as the welcome templates can be used as different forms in different ways. Hazard-SJ Talk 06:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- (change conflict) Hazard, there's a list of welcome templates at Category:Welcome templates. You're welcome (pardon the pun) to review all the content in the template messages. Just a thought: maybe we should have a page entitled: "Help:Intro to welcome templates" :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think it needs a link inviting them to join. Hazard-SJ Talk 06:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
AN discussion
I wish to comment now here, as the AN seems as heated up as ever. This idea, I must commend you on your tactfulness. However, even though we, I mean the one accusing me, have not been in agreement as of late on some matters, there are things that we wish to contribute similarly to. For example, see this diff in the DYK, in which the other rightfully commented alongside me and the work on American Dad! I believe that we could have had the chance to reach consensus, had it not been for certain events. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- What I am proposing is that you two do not talk directly to each other, or "fix" the other's comments. Commenting on DYKs is fine. There is going to be loss of productive edits from any set of restrictions, naturally, but I feel that it is worthwhile. I would recommend that you just stay away from him regardless whether any editing restrictions are enforced. Please do take my advice here. Also, when an administrator is handling something (especially a block), please do not weigh in. There may be sides of the issue that you are not aware of, but either way we know what we are doing. sonia♫ 06:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
change conflict /merged
It seems I inserted my editing restrictions right after you inserted yours. I don't want to step on your toes, but perhaps we can merge our restrictions? Best, Jon@talk:~$ 06:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- No objections whatsoever. sonia♫ 06:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't mind, if you think that particular restriction was too harsh, I was going to restrict him from editing all userspace outside his own. Best, Jon@talk:~$ 06:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, it makes sense. In general there should be no need for him to edit anyone else's userspace anyway, and I agree with the rest of your restrictions. sonia♫ 06:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't mind, if you think that particular restriction was too harsh, I was going to restrict him from editing all userspace outside his own. Best, Jon@talk:~$ 06:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: "Note"
Yes, I was a bit harsh. I guess its because I'm a bit hungry: "A hungry man is an angry man...". I will be specific next time. Hazard-SJ Talk 07:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- I should probably apologize as well for having posted that after you responded on Nataly8's talk; I didn't see the response there. Thank you for watching RC so attentively. sonia♫ 07:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Its like my home page here. (lol) Hazard-SJ Talk 08:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Favor to ask
I just nominated The Lightning Thief for GA. I would love it if you would read over it and leave a few comments. On another note, I'm still working through War and Peace (my new job got in the way). And I'm glad you made it safely back from your hiking/camping trip. PrincessofLlyr talk 17:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Will do, but won't have time till Saturday, sorry. sonia♫ 07:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Miscellaneous questions
Thanks for the answer (about barnstars) :) Nataly8 (talk) 07:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry- I meant it more for Hazard than for you, though it's good advice for anybody. Thanks for your work of late, and I'm always here if you need any help :) sonia♫ 07:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes. Did we have a Wikiproject about films or actors? Nataly8 (talk) 07:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, we don't appear to. On this Wikipedia, wikiprojects don't work as well as they do on others, because we all basically work on what we are interested in. If other users are interested in what you are doing, they will just help. If you wish to ask for help, Simple Talk will do. However, you may start the Wikiproject if you wish. sonia♫ 07:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I will see. Well, the newest article I have started (Jason Isaacs) is based on English Wikipedia. I put the link {{Link GA|en}}, but I don't see it. How it works? Nataly8 (talk) 07:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- It should appear in the sidebar on the left where it says "other languages". I'm not sure what the GA icon is, but you'll see a little star next to the language where the article is FA-class. You have to be using the default skin, and mine is modified so that's probably why I can't see it. @Lauryn (parlez) 07:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I just switched back to monobook to check, and I can't see it either... FA icons show up fine though. sonia♫ 07:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- In English Wikipedia, the GA icon is the icon that shows that the article have the status of Good Article. Nataly8 (talk) 07:44, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it is the same here. I don't know why the template is not working, but I will check with someone who is better at it and let you know. sonia♫ 07:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- In English Wikipedia, the GA icon is the icon that shows that the article have the status of Good Article. Nataly8 (talk) 07:44, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
OK. Good luck :) Nataly8 (talk) 07:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sonia. I try to do something, but it doesn't work :( Nataly8 (talk) 08:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hello. I think I've got it, hang on a bit and I'll see. sonia♫ 08:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I' m sorry, but it doesn't work. Nataly8 (talk) 08:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Like the last time (it doesn't). I see that another user testing. Who knows? Nataly8 (talk) 08:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I replied on simple talk with another important, for me, question. Nataly8 (talk) 08:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Now I have another problem. I wrote a article and put a foto from Commons, but I cannot see it (!). It shows me only on red X. Nataly8 (talk) 09:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, it' s now fix. Nataly8 (talk) 09:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I find many stubs about it. Nataly8 (talk) 09:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I did an Category:Sreenwriters stubs. It's now OK? Nataly8 (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Er... no. Please ask at the talk page, because we need to decide if we need that kind of stub. sonia♫ 09:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
OK Nataly8 (talk) 09:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, that looks good, actually. sonia♫ 10:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Should we must welcome anonymous users? Nataly8 (talk) 10:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, but I like to welcome them when they do something that we cannot have, like that IP did. I think that if we tell them not to do it, and teach them what they can do, they may help the encyclopedia. You don't have to welcome anyone if you don't want to. Many users disagree about when to welcome somebody. sonia♫ 10:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the explain. Hey, I put 5 articles that I started in the peer review. Did you have some comments to do them better? Nataly8 (talk) 10:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I will look at them on Saturday. Is that all right? I have a major deadline on Friday that I am trying to meet. sonia♫ 10:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
What you mean with the Is that all right? Nataly8 (talk) 10:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I mean, will you be happy with waiting until Saturday for me to review them? sonia♫ 10:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem :) Nataly8 (talk) 10:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Could you delete the Trancy? How I can say to a user that the article is for fast deletion? Nataly8 (talk) 10:44, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done. For future reference, all the warnings are here: Template:User talk page warnings. In this case I would use {{uw-create1}}. sonia♫ 10:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, thanks
The Admin's Barnstar | ||
Good luck! Nataly8 (talk) 10:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC) |
Well, can you check this? Nataly8 (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Well. can you delete it again? Nataly8 (talk) 10:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the barnstar and the notes, and I have deleted the pages. Cheers, sonia♫ 10:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
If the user created again, like today, he must be blocked? Nataly8 (talk) 11:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- If they do not listen after multiple warnings, yes. sonia♫ 11:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
OK. Good luck. Gongratulations for the star! Nataly8 (talk) 11:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Can you please take a look at this please: Template talk:Documentation/core Hazard-SJ Talk 22:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hey Sonia, thanks for correcting the her to him, as i stole that template from a woman and forgot to change it to him :-) - Dwayne was here! ♫ 19:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I finished. Nataly8 (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm... needs a lot of simplification still. sonia♫ 11:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I know it. So you will help? Nataly8 (talk) 11:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I will try when I am less busy, hopefully soon. sonia♫ 11:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Nataly8 (talk) 11:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I just finished Aang and I wrote some articles about martial arts. Can you put the new template? Nataly8 (talk) 10:28, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Well done! I have to get offline in about five minutes, but I'll put the new template on the articles tomorrow. It would be easier if you list them here for me, can you do that? Thanks! sonia♫ 10:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Nataly8 (talk) 10:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've done Baguazhang, but the other two are too broad for that infobox, which is about specific disciplines- at least in my opinion. I'll think about it. sonia♫ 13:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me. Well, I saw what happened with wiooiw. Can you protect his talk and user pages? Nataly8 (talk) 13:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think protecting his talk would be good right now, as vandalism patrol will get him in contact with some good-faith new users. Besides, my mop's pretty new and I'd defer to someone with more experience. As for his userpage, it hasn't been touched by anyone else since the protection expired, but if it gets vandalised again it'll be locked again. sonia♫ 13:12, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Locked. sonia♫ 14:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Hm, thanks for the answer! Nataly8 (talk) 13:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Nataly8 has given you some cookies! Now enjoy them! |
Do anyone understand what the anonymous user wants from wiooiw? Nataly8 (talk) 13:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- His sanity. (Thanks for the cookies) sonia♫ 14:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Your welcome! Nataly8 (talk) 14:02, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Does the article needs simplification? Nataly8 (talk) 09:22, 16 August 2010 (UTC)