The Newspaper

Welcome

Hello! I am assuming you have come over from the English Wikipedia, so you are probably familiar with the way this wiki works. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Here are a few links to help you adjust:

• An English Wikipedian's guide
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• How to copy from English Wikipedia
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There is much to do here. For example, there are a lot of articles that do not exist yet, which you can bring over from the English Wikipedia and simplify. Do have a look around and see what you would like to do. Thank you for joining us, and you know how to contact me if you need help. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  15:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

April 2016

• It is best not to add welcome notices until there is evidence the user is editing constructively. Otherwise it sits uncomfortably when the editor gets warning notices for vandalism. In any event we don't use it until the editor has done something good. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:43, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay thanks for letting me know that. The Newspaper (talk) 12:44, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

escalate warnings

When dealing with repeat vandalism, please escalate your warnings as the sequence continues. All the stock labels are on WP:User talk page warnings, which you may arrange to have handy when dealing with vandalism. The multi-level templates have guidelines which you should read. Thank you for your efforts! Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:02, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

How do you know when to use 4im? The Newspaper (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Use of the 4im warnings should be relatively rare. I've gone directly to the 4im level when editors have added material to biographies of living people which required oversighting, or which has been especially bad, but generally it is better to use the sequence. This ensures that editors are given plenty of warning before being blocked, and may also help us to convert some potential vandals into productive editors. Imagine, for example, someone who makes a simple editing test: A brief notice that it is better to make such tests in a sandbox will tell the person that edits are monitored, and that we would like them to learn how to edit pages so they can help out; while a sharp level four warning may come across as being "bitey" and drive a potential asset away from the project. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  16:41, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Longan is a fruit

I have restored an edit that you reverted, and striken the warning you gave the editor. The Longan is a fruit and the editor added it to the list of fruits. This was appropriate. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  14:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Quick deletion of Category:Saturday Night Live cast members

The page you wrote, Category:Saturday Night Live cast members, has been selected for quick deletion for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the specific reasons. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. The Newspaper (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Welcome notices

Again, please don't add welcome notices until there is evidence the user is editing constructively. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Again (third time), don't add welcome notices until the user has a track record. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk page warnings

When giving warnings as you did at User talk:137.221.133.154, please pay attention to any recent warnings and their level. We generally progress from warning level 1 to 4. The user in this case had a very recent level 4 warning and you added a level 1 warning. This defeats the purpose in warning (in this case) users engaged in vandalism. Please see Wikipedia:User talk page warnings for more information. Not every behavior progresses through all 4 warning levels and an administrator will determine if or when a user needs to be blocked for any reason. There is more to this, but for now I wanted to make you aware of the warning levels and how they are used. It will take some time for you to identify what recent warning level has already been given to a user for some reason. Bookmark or save the connection to the talk page warnings above and you can look them up. Generally they follow this pattern:

• Level 1 – A notice – Assumes good faith. Generally includes "Welcome to Wikipedia" or some variant.
• Level 2 – Caution – No faith assumption, just a note.
• Level 3 – Warning – Assumes bad faith, cease and desist. Generally includes "Please stop".
• Level 4 – Final Warning – Assumes bad faith, strong cease and desist, last warning.
• Level 4im – Only Warning – Assumes bad faith, very strong cease and desist, first and only warning. Generally used in the case of excessive or continuous disruption from a user or specific IP. Thanks User:Rus793 (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Saturday Night Live season articles

Hi, The Newspaper. I noticed that you created articles for individual seasons of Saturday Night Live. The articles as written aren't showing notability, so they're likely to be deleted. That's partly because they have so little information in them. How about making one article that has the information on all the seasons? I know that might be a little long (because there have been, what, more than 40 seasons now?), but that would be OK. You could also put the information in the main article for the show. Please consider these options so that your work doesn't get deleted. Thanks, and have a pleasant tomorrow! ;) --Auntof6 (talk) 18:05, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Saturday Night Live (season 12)

An editor has requested deletion of Saturday Night Live (season 12), an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2016/Saturday Night Live (season 12) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. User:Rus793 (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I see you have been editing the parent article Saturday Night Live. The individual season articles do not claim or show notability (in addition to the Wikipedia:Notability guidelines, the Help:Notability page might help explain notability). Consider rolling the information you wrote in the individual season article into the main article. Then you can make a simple QD request to delete each of them. One thing the main article needs is source citations. If you have any questions or can use any help, just ask. Thanks User:Rus793 (talk) 18:30, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Service award

You have just passed your 200th edit and 1 month's service. You are qualified to display the following award. Most users display their service awards on their userpage and you may use any form of the award you prefer. Congratulations! User:Rus793 (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

This editor is a Novice Editor and has the right to show this Service Badge.

Saturday Night Live

You're making some good improvements to the article. However, I noticed a considerable number of duplicate links in the Seasons and cast members section. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Wikilinking states: "Only link a word the first time it is used in the article, but do not link the same word more than once in an article". I though you might like to know this and perhaps you could remove the duplicate links when you get a chance. (I sure hope you notice this before you get to season 41.) Thanks User:Rus793 (talk) 14:30, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There are exceptions to that guideline, and this is an example of when it might be OK to have multiple links for the same thing. The guideline is for cases where readers are reading the entire article from top to bottom. The first time they see a term (or a name or whatever) is when they might want to click on it for more information. In a case like this, a reader might skip to a particular season they're interested in, and it's reasonable to link the names every time so that the reader doesn't have to look back at previous seasons to find a clickable link.

FYI, other exceptions to this guideline are links in tables, links in infoboxes, and sometimes very long articles. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:09, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Four to eight times in the same section? And on successive lines? I understand there are exceptions, I just don't think they apply to this section. User:Rus793 (talk) 17:20, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

I just haven't got a chance to get around to it yet. I'm going to take a wiki-break for the summer after beginning on Monday, so I'm trying to get it done. It would be hard to go back in and undo all the links but I can give it a shot. @Rus793: @Auntof6: The Newspaper (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Let me know if I can help. User:Rus793 (talk) 17:37, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

When the section is essentially a list, then yes. WP:IAR, y'know. I have no objection to taking them out, I'm just saying it would be OK to leave them. An example of something similar where we repeat links is some of the chronology pages. This section of the SNL article is essentially a chronology, and people may not read it in order. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:57, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Another suggestion is since SNL has been running for 41 years, break the section into subsections by decade. That would make navigation easier. See what each of you thinks. User:Rus793 (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if I'll have time to do it myself because I'll be away from the computer for a couple of months. But I'll look at it today and try to do as much as I can. The Newspaper (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2016 (UTC)