User talk:Jonas D. Rand/Archive 5

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6 August 2008–21 September 2008
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Thank you for welcoming me back! --Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 21:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Bot?

No, no bot involved. I'm just a fast editor. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope, completely manual. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Revert

It was a redlink without sources added by an anon ip, so I assumed it was vandalism or a COI edit. I apologize, I should have double checked; bad force of habit from school entries on EN Wikipedia, I guess. --TBC 02:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Critisism

I know you don't like administrators, but do you have to hound our edits hoping to find something to criticize us about? In two days, you've already asked two admins about their reverts/deletions and why they made them.

Granted you were correct about one, but this is going a tad far. It was an attack page, perfectly suited to deletion. Contrary to popular belief, we do actually know what we're doing.

Finally, watch out. This almost constitutes as a PA. I suggest you read (or re-read) our policy (found here) about personal attacks. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 20:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

First, the word is spelled "Criticism". Second, I don't hate administrators, and to think that I still do is only rehashing of ancient history from Dramaland. I don't despise admins as they once did. Third, I was curious about Creol's deletion as I believed that it was just what Uptojoe restored it as, and I couldn't see that as attacking. I want to know what the page was deleted for. Fourth and last, the Armenian thing was a bit extreme, and I am going to revert it soon. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 20:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

(adhering to patronising sectioning) Firstly, I didn't say you hated administrators ("I know you don't like administrators"). Secondly, you of all people know how efficient Creol is, if he deletes, it needed to be deleted. Thirdly, I agree about Dramaland. Why would people act so erratically just because you created 16 or so sockpuppets and vandalised? Pfft. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 20:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Jonas

an anonym user said "he does not like me to be here". Hopefully I learn here some English and find support for my wiki-idea. yours j --Uptojoe (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Reporting

I saw you were reporting a vandal on Gwib's talk. Next time use WP:VIP please. Thanks! SwirlBoy39 21:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

re: 70.92.74.153

user:70.92.74.153 has a habit of mixing in vandalism with constructive edits. He was also blocked on a number of other IP addresses and could therefore be evading his block. user:TBC has just blocked him. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 23:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Wut

Seriously, Jonas, what was that for? Maybe I should fully protect that page. I thought my computer had exploded. cassandra (talk) 05:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Hi SF

It's just a personal choice that I edit as a IP sometimes or I forget to log in. Thanks for the question though! Falcon ^{-=Electrify My Thoughts=-} 12:59, Tuesday September 9 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Jonas D. Rand. You have new messages at StaticFalcon's talk page.
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Static ^{-=Electrify My Thoughts=-} 17:14, Saturday September 20 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Jonas D. Rand. You have new messages at StaticFalcon's talk page.
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Falcon ^{-=Electrify My Thoughts=-} 17:36, Saturday September 20 2008 (UTC)

AN Thread: Email

In response to a private request, I have deleted some personal info on the page. Please refrain from posting such information on the AN unless it is really needed. Thanks. Chenzw  Talk  11:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

A word of advice...

If you're that young, it's not a good idea to put our your age and place of residency. I'd recommend removing it, maybe even requesting oversight. Sebb ^Talk 00:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

it's fine. Sebb ^Talk 11:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

3RR

Please explain why you reverted my edit to Sebb's talk page? I won't revert you, but I need a reason not to. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 17:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

There is some information that I don't want shown alongside my name in a search for it. Then, the admin who was doing that may find out and I don't want that to happen. Wikipedia pages have no "owners", and I shouldn't have to "take it up with [Sebb]" because I don't want search engines to access it. It's like making a comment on a user talk page, then changing it, then someone reverts your change, telling you to discuss with the user. It doesn't make sense, and it's not practical, because of what's been going on with this admin. I'm tempted to reveal the username of this admin, but I'm reluctant, because it's gotten me in trouble before. But please, hide the comment. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 18:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm willing to delete the talk page and restore without your edit. Then you can re-write the comment without anything you deem unnecessary. However, I won't allow hiding comments just because you're nervous of repercussions. Basically, think before you write. It's up to you as to how you want to re-word the message, but hiding something because you don't want another user to see it in an internet trawl is immature. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't want the edit to be hidden from people, I want it to be hidden from search engines. I also do not see what is puerile, immature, or petulant about wanting to protect your privacy. It's not just Michael, it's all harassment that I want to prevent when using a search engine. Oversighting, selective restoration, and other forms of non-transparent forms of hiding information from search engines will make an edit completely erased from the history. Adding a simple notice that the info is hidden will encourage some who are reading it to see, and they can see. But they can't see using, say, Clusty to search "Jonas Rand" site:wikipedia.org. It's not immature, and I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 18:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm reverting you unless you really give a good reason, Ionas. You're hiding a comment so that some will see it (i.e. those whom are concerned in the comment), and so that others who are concerned will not know about it's existence. It's not only immature, it's cowardly and pointless. I'm offering to delete the page, but again I won't allow a cowardly, useless comment meant only to bring down reputations. If you want a discussion hidden from google, use e-mails. But don't post a hidden comment so that those you're bitching about don't know it's going on. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Whatever, do what you want. I've been called out of my name, "immature", "cowardly", and said to have been "bitching". I give up now. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 18:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I haven't called you immature or cowardly. Just your actions/situation. Now, do you want the entire comment exposed to the merciless google or do you want to whittle it down? --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't care now. Michael's going to harass me anyway, so I'll just revert myself back to the exposed version. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 18:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

(unindenting)Well, you quote him as "searching for [your] real name", so him picking up this issue is just going to justify his searching of you. If he's clever, he won't comment, let alone harass. If he isn't, or if he has a vendetta against you, then he'll intervene. Until then, lets assume the former. --Gwib ^-(talk)- 18:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm archiving my talk page now (not out of fear, but this is the length at which I will archive). Let's consider this matter resolved. — Jonas Rand · ^(talk) 18:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)