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Dearest Pmlineditor!

Most kind and benovolent adopted Wikipedian "Papa"(if I may have the honor of calling you that)! I am so extremely sorry to be bothering you--again, but please check on the new article I made, Caving. If you're too busy, you don't need to, but I would only be more overjoyed if you would. I hope you have a good time on Wikipedia, and happy editing! :) Miss Tilney (talk) 05:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I found mainly two minor issues, viz., the use of <br> and the lack of categories. Please don't use <br>; just leave a line gap before writing. For the latter, you might use HotCat. Otherwise, the article is quite good. BTW, I'm not your Wikipedian "papa"; just someone who is trying to help. Pmlineditor  11:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


Can you full protect all of my talk page archives except for #20? Thanks, Razorflame 13:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure, will do. Pmlineditor  13:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
  Done. Pmlineditor  13:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

So sorry to bother you!

Please forgive my impudence and impertinence, you must be plenty annoyed already by my continual requests and complaints... But I wanted to ask you.. because Classical Esther kindly informed me that I could ask admins... May I please have rollback rights? As you may know already, I'm such a terrible, impatient user that I can't bare to just click the difference, do undo, check it over, and save... when the vandal is so annoying, though it may not be as annoying as me whenever I nag you. So I do very much wish I could just have the wonderful rollback to rollback every tiny horrid thing the vandals write that is extremely offensive and - but, of course, you don't need to if you want, no need to make kind, benovolent Pmlineditor angry. Thanks for your help anyway, and besides, if I don't get the rollback I guess it'll be a good chance to make myself learn to be patient :)!
Yours Sincerely and humbly,
Miss Tilney (talk) 08:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

You are extremely kind, dear Pmlineditor! Thankyou very much for giving me the rollback rights! I hope I shall use them properly and be able to be of more good to Wikipedia... :) Thankyou! Miss Tilney (talk) 07:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
No problem; please read the guideline. Pmlineditor  07:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, Pmlineditor!! So sorry to make such a big mistake.. :) I hope I can improve. Miss Tilney (talk) 08:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


It didn't archive that section because the last date on it was the 29th and its set to do it every 7 days. Which isn't for 2 more days. -DJSasso (talk) 14:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, it would have unless the resolved template had been added... that delayed the archival process. Anyway, thanks for the information. --Pmlineditor  14:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Yup, no biggy. Just figured you might like to know it wasn't the bots being stupid. It was just the resolved template being added with a much later time stamp. -DJSasso (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
(Belated reply) Okay, thanks for the info. Pmlineditor  08:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for using the {{oldrfdfull}} template on the talk page! You are the first person other than myself to do so, from what I can see.

Incidently, if the article has been renamed/moved, then there is an option for that:

|oldname=y will add "At the time of the discussion, the {page type} was called {page]".
|oldname=name will add "At the time of the discussion, the {page type} was called name".

Also, it's set up so that if the template was on a "Template talk:xxx" page, it would say "the template was called..." instead of "the page was called..."

Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll remember that. Pmlineditor  09:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


imo, I feel that you should be promoted to cratship. You have done a fantastic and spotless job as an administrator and I think you deserve the crat bits. If you accept, I'll be happy to nominate you. Regards, —§ stay (sic)! 05:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Need to be admin for 6 months to be crat. Pmlineditor  11:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Should I wait another month for you to accept, or should I leave you alone? —§ stay (sic)! 03:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
From what a crat told me, crat noms are self-noms since you only need two crats to support and no so-called "normal" user takes part in the first 24 hours of the discussion. In any case, I'll think of this later. Pmlineditor  09:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Amani Placide

If article has been deleted, perhaps a SALT? Just sayin' Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Trails blazed) 18:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

If it is created again, then, yes it should be salted. I didn't salt it then... which probably I could have done then, but it has somewhat staled now. Pmlineditor  09:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


Why is clubbing stub with expand bad? Miss Tilney (talk) 09:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Reply in your talk page. Pmlineditor  09:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


Sorry to bother you (again)!! I just need some help on the DYK article I made and asked for. It's called Protea. Could you check on it and add a few more refs? Thankyou again, so much for your tireless help! You are always so esteemable. Your humble servant, Miss Tilney (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure,   Doing.... Pmlineditor  08:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
  Done. Pmlineditor  09:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
How quick to reply and do! You continually amaze me, Pmlineditor! I am very content with what you did... Thankyou once and again! Joyfully, Miss Tilney (talk) 09:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Another very tiresome request

How ashamed I am to enter your high talk page, so superior to me, and ask you impudently again! But nevertheless I cannot help but wish to--for you are so kind in your answers, and so patient in your corrections!

And now, I, impertinently, must ask you a very tedious and annoying request, which I doubt you will take the tireful job of listening to. Could you please check on the few articles I've made a few days ago, about Almond Cakes, Carrot Cakes, Black Forest Cakes, and Devil's Food Cakes. Sorry, but please? :) Well, then, thankyou if you do, and of course I will take no offense if you do not, because you are always so busy to reply to these kind of annoying requests. O, yes, and I also wish you could change my user name, Pretty Lydie into Belinda--after all, I was quite immature and dumb when I made it, and now regret making such a coarse, unlikely, vain name. I will always be, and am,
Yours most extremely humbly,
Kitty Morland (talk) 04:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Lyd, I mean, Kitty, I mean, Miss Tilney, I mean, Bella. Fr33kman just changed your name to Belinda... Classical Esther 05:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I did :) fr33kman 05:36, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
O, sorry, for having so much signatures... I'll really remain it as Belle, to stop more confusion!! Belle (talk) 06:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Reviewed and more or less fixed. I just found one error; you didn't use {{cite book}} for the book references or {{cite web}} for the websites; so the refs are incorrect. A good example may be the VGAs - you can see the reference format in Jupiter. Also remember not to capitalise any word other than proper nouns. Great work in the articles. Cheers, Pmlineditor  08:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, thankyou, so much, Pmlineditor!! You are so kind! By the way--check your editor's review. I reviewed it!! :) Regards, Belle (talk) 08:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.   Pmlineditor  08:23, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Pmlineditor!

Hello, and have a happy valentines day!!

Happy Valentine's day! I thank you for all your kind carings and helpful, patient comments, and for adopting me in Wikipedia!

I hope you'll have a happy Valentine's day, and tho' I write so shortly and unelegantly, still you won't be mad at this impudent spam? :) O, and by the way, 'tis Traditional New Year (설날) in Korea, where we live! Well, have a lot of imaginary chocolates!

Yours Ever-respectfully,
Belle (talk) 08:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Pmlineditor  07:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

For the nice welcome :). Jeffrey Mall (talk) 18:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

:) Pmlineditor  13:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


dude, why do you keep deleting? This is truely a notable topic.

Prove it. Pmlineditor  15:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

What proof do you need? I would be happy to provide

I need notable sources proving that this is notable. Pmlineditor  16:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Does that help? Certainly the fact that it is written about scientific american - a non beuty post should demonstrated that this is worhty. Let me know if there is anything else you need to demonstrate that this is a notable topic

Every product by a notable company does not warrant inclusion; sorry. You can create L'Oreal if you wish. Pmlineditor  16:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, however this not just about the product. It is about the technology behind the product, a technolgy that has remained essentially unchanged in about 100 years. Haircolor was the original product the founder of the L'Oreal company created - and now this company is the largest beauty company in the world. The fact that a science journal is writing about a beauty product demonstrates how innovative this technology is.

Develop this article in your userspace and remove the spammy parts. Add references and then I will review it and move it to the main space. I must warn you that the article might be deleted since it falls out of our scope. Maybe it will be kept on EnWikipedia, but that is another wiki. Pmlineditor  16:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Great will do. If you have any suggestions to make it better - less spammy, let me know. I appreciate your feedback.

Sure, will do. Happy editing. Pmlineditor  16:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

can you tell me where I can create this in my user space? Can seem to find out how.
OK, Check it out

Did you have a chance to review?

Okay, will look. Pmlineditor  12:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It's better than the one you made in the main space, Dchidlaw! ^^ but it still looks kind of complex.. Classical Esther ~ 12:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

So do have suggestions of what should be removed or reworded then? It is fairly complex... and I was trying to make it as factual as possible.

So can I post on to Wikedpedia?

As I haven't heard back from you, I am hoping that is a yes. So I tried posting again.

Okay, I'll check it in a bit. Sorry for the delay. Pmlineditor  09:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


So sorry, wonderful Pmlineditor, but will you please help me with this hard job? --How may I say it--I have made a new article called Wikipedia:WikiDragons, but PeterSymonds removed it to User:Belinda/WikiDragons. They say it's too funny and unneutral to become a wikiproject. But the Article on enWP isn't that neutral, either, I think. Aren't project pages supposed to be like that? Could you help me and improve the page? Thankyou! You're always so positive and nice. :) I'm too lazy to do it myself, and also too unexperienced with project pages. Yours lazily, Belle (talk) 08:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Project pages/projects (in my opinion) shouldn't really be humourous, unless it's a humour essay which you can find on en wikipedia quite often. Just wanted to offer my ideas about my standards of a project, you don't have to listen to me. :) Nifky^ 08:58, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Certainly I'd better listen to your wonderful advice, Nifky! But I didn't exactly write it humourously, I think, to my opinion, and also I added the template {{template:humour}} to the page. Isn't it alright, now? :) Yours Hopefully, Belle (talk) 09:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, I would actually want to know the aim of the Wikiproject. Seems ambigious at the moment. Nifky^ 09:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
WikiProjects are always in the userspace here. That said, I agree with Nifky's assessment. Pmlineditor  09:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


I am sure I know why you blocked it. But I just wanted to make note that there is nothing wrong with the username Dictator. Especially when they haven't even edited yet. -DJSasso (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Removed. Pmlineditor  13:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


  Welcome to WikiProject Literature!
Welcome to WikiProject Literature! I hope you have a delightful time here and improve lots of articles on literature!

Hurray, thanks for joining! I made it because WikiProject Novels seemed to be rather inactive lately... Classical EstherLibrary 09:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Even the EnWiki WikiProject Novels is. (Full disclosure: I'm a co-ord there, albeit inactive.) Pmlineditor  09:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
O, I never knew Pmlineditor was wonderful at English! What great news! :) I knew he was always so smart and intelligent! BTW, Pmlineditor, do you think maybe you would like to join my WikiProject too? ;) I know boys probably don't like to cook and do kitchen stuff, but still, if you're interested... Please? >.< You're my adopter? But on second thought, maybe you already knew but you didn't want to! If you don't want to, you don't need to, of course. Just a suggestion! Hopefully, Belle (talk) 10:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Oops, by the way, sorry, I guess you're a man not a boy, as Esther just informed me. ;) Belle (talk) 10:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, so my age doesn't matter. And okay, I'll take a look. Pmlineditor  10:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

What's with the "meh" ;)? Well, anyway, thankyou! How kind you are! Belle (talk)10:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
This. Pmlineditor  10:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I never knew there was an article about it! You're really serious? :P sorry! Well, anyway, thankyou for informing me so nicely. Have a g'day! Belle (talk) 13:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Are numbers smaller than 21 supposed to be spelled out, Pmlineditor? I think Peterdownunder told me otherwise. ^-^ Which is right? Classical Esther 08:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll check; it is quite possible I'm wrong. Pmlineditor  08:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I was wrong... it seems that numbers <21 are spelled out in Wikinews and not Wikipedia. Probably the EnWiki article which I was referring to confused me. Sorry for this; I'll revert my edits. Keep up the good work! Pmlineditor  08:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Sure, thanks for replying! Classical Esther 09:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way, Pmlineditor, could you please be so kind as to tell me the difference between {{reflist}} and <references/>? I've been quite confused by that for a long time :) Classical Esther 10:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
{{reflist}} is used for displaying references in small fonts or in different columns. For example, in a page like Jupiter, it would have been very difficult to accomodate 40 refs in a single column and hence, {{reflist}} is used there, rather than using <references />. Of course, it doesn't matter much for small, unimportant stubs; however, it is important for the article of a notable novel such as David Copperfield since the article, when expanded, will certainly need more references and thus, it will be wise to use them from the beginning. This page is also useful as it documents the usage of {{reflist}}. Pmlineditor  10:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Ohh, thank you! I see now.   Classical Esther 12:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Congo Rainforest

Hi, Pmlineditor! It's the loyal, respectful Belinda! Could you please check on the article I made about Congo Rainforests? Thankyou! Belinda 10:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

  Done Please use {{reflist}} for showing references. Also, don't forget to add categories to articles. Other than that, good work! Pmlineditor  10:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


  The Original Barnstar
For getting the list of eradicated stubs to 100, I award you this barnstar! Yottie =talk= 10:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Yot. :D Pmlineditor  10:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Thankyou for helping me on my articles! :) You're so kind! Also, thankyou so much for signing on my guestbook! Wow, I never knew you, the solemn, civil, polite Pmlineditor really sticks his tongue out!! ;) I hope you won't think me impertinent if I sign in your guestbook too! Belinda 12:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Nah, feel free to sign. Also, I doubt that I'm entirely solemn and grim. ;) Pmlineditor  12:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Dear me, I'm making so much mistakes! I'm so sorry. Esther did not know about references and all those things because it was one of her earliest edits. :( Please don't remove my flag, I'll be especially careful from now on. For some reason, I'm prejudiced on IP Adresses. I'll try not to be like that. I didn't know it was POVish because I had read it in several books, I thought the IP was just removing useful information for no reason. Oh, well. Thankyou! Belinda 05:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It included original research which is unsuitable for GAs. If the material were written without OR and POV, and had references, it could have been kept. Good to know that you will use rollback carefully. We all make mistakes, so it is fine. Cheers, Pmlineditor  05:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks. :) I've never updated DYK before, so I knew I would mess something up. Cheers, Lauryn (utc) 08:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, it's fine. At least I didn't have to do the update this time around. Not that I don't want to, but it's pretty boring anyways. ;) Cheers, Pmlineditor  08:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Simple News: Issue Seventeen

Issue Seventeen
1st March 2010


  • The QandA. Every month, a user will be interviewed by a member of the Simple News team. This idea was started by Kennedy. Interviews are generally taking by a member of the Simple News Team - to date this has included Bluegoblin7, Kennedy, Pmlineditor, Shappy and Yotcmdr.

This weeks interview is with Nifky?.

Click here for Nifky?'s interview!

Administrator News

Pmlineditor  12:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


Next time you deliver SN using AWB, would you mind using the flood flag? Thanks! EhJJTALK 13:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I did. Surprisingly, it didn't work. I was wondering whether I should create a bot for SN as I'm sure that bot edits with AWB don't show up. Cheers, Pmlineditor  13:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 (change conflict) I see from the rights log that you did use flood. I think there is some option that needs to be set in AWB as well. Oh well, at least you tried. Thanks for delivering it to everyone. EhJJTALK 13:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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