User talk:Lallint/Archive 1

January 2022

Thank you for changing Wikipedia. We welcome all changes, but we can have only changes that are in simple English, and your new changes to "Watertown (city), New York" were not simple. Please see Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages so you can write more simply in the future. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 03:10, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Lallint! Here at Simple English Wikipedia we use the section heading "Other websites" instead of English Wikipedia's "External links". This makes it simpler and easier to read. Please remember to use "Other websites" in articles that you create in the future. Thank you for your help! Auntof6 (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

February 2022

We like and strongly encourage helpful changes to Wikipedia, but "Roswell P. Flower Memorial Library" was directly copied and pasted from the main English Wikipedia. Please do not do that. Such articles are usually too complex. They need to be simplified before or immediately after being added to the Simple English Wikipedia. In addition, be sure to include attribution on the article's talk page. Thank you. MathXplore (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

We like and strongly encourage helpful changes to Wikipedia, but an article you created was directly copied and pasted from the main English Wikipedia. Please do not do that. Such articles are usually too complex. They need to be simplified before or immediately after being added to the Simple English Wikipedia. In addition, be sure to include attribution on the article's talk page. Thank you. Operator873 ^connect 00:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Lallint! Here at Simple English Wikipedia we use the section heading "Other websites" instead of English Wikipedia's "External links", which you used in "Roswell P. Flower Memorial Library". This makes it simpler and easier to read. Please remember to use "Other websites" in articles that you create in the future. Thank you for your help! MathXplore (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Welcome

Some cookies to welcome you!

Hello! I am assuming 1 you have come over from the English Wikipedia, so you are probably familiar with the way this wiki works. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Here are a few links to help you adjust:

• An English Wikipedian's guide
• Writing in Simple English
• Simple talk: our help desk, reference desk and village pump- in one page
• How to copy from English Wikipedia

If you need help just click here and type {{helpme}} and your question and someone will reply to you shortly. You can also check out the help section of Wikipedia, or leave a message on my talk page.

There is a lot to do here. For example, there are a lot of articles that have not been created yet, which you can bring over from the English Wikipedia and simplify. Just remember you can not directly copy them. They must be simplified. Do have a look around and see what you would like to do. Thank you for joining us. Happy changing! Bobherry (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I also saw on your enwiki page that you said you are a Aspie I am as well! I made a userbox here if you are interested in using it. {{User:Bobherry/AspergersyndromeUBX}} Enjoy your time here! Bobherry (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for being so kind and informal instead of acting like you're writing a ten page thesis to the president of the united states, which page is getting deleted? Both of the pages i recently started (Roswell P. Flower and Roswell P. Flower Memorial Library) both meet GNG on the enwiki so they do here too. Or did you accidentally greet me wrong? Either way i guess thanks

Fixed. Bobherry (talk) 14:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

lol yep you accidentally greeted me wrong, thanks for being informal though! I've started a few pages already so i'm not really a newcomer, but cookies are always appreciated! Lallint (talk) 14:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Copying from English Wikipedia

Copying articles including large sections of articles from the English Wikipedia isn't allowed for several reasons. Please be aware that here on Simple English Wikipedia, we strive to only use very simple and easy to read English in the articles. You can refer to the BE 1500 wordlist for a non-exhaustive list of easy to understand words. Many of the articles you've recently created here were either copied directly from the English Wikipedia and not simplified at all, or were reworded and not simplified. Please don't do this. Thank you! Operator873 ^connect 00:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

As an example, this edit is not simplified. Yes, you did move the words around, but there is still extremely complex language in your addition so it's not acceptable. Operator873 ^connect 01:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Such as what? Lallint (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

You can review your edit and note the words in your edit which aren't present in the BE 1500 wordlist would be a good start. Operator873 ^connect 01:15, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, i'll redo the edit and check EVERY SINGLE word for a simpler alternative using BE 1500. Thanks, Lallint (talk) 15:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Average new users first article when an Ultimate Vanguard Editor who single-handedly created donald trumps wikipedia page finds the article:

Extended content
Trees are made out of trees.

AssumeGoodWraith (talk) 11:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Water is wet Lallint (talk) 15:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Stubs

Hello, Lallint. I noticed that you created a template and category for architecture stubs. You probably didn't know, but on this Wikipedia, new stub types must be approved before being created. We try to keep the number of different stub types to a minimum. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Simple Stub Project. New stub types can be requested on that page's talk page. If you want to request a new type, I recommend reading previous requests to see what makes a new type likely to be accepted.

If you would like to know other ways that this Wikipedia is different from others, you can look at this list I maintain of such differences. The list itself is not policy or guideline, but it links to relevant policies and guidelines.

If you have questions about any of this, feel free to ask. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit notice?

Hey Lallint, the edit notice on this talk page is somewhat confusing. Even if it does say you've just been trolled, the rest of it suggests that editor editing your talk page is blocked. Please could you not have that as your edit notice? Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 18:59, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I removed it Lallint (talk) 19:02, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Eample needed

According to this edit to Adobe Premiere Pro, aside from the fact it is now written in anything close to SE, you ask for an example. Im confused here. What do you want an example of? You are being extremely vague and have provide no imformation at all about what you are asking for especially when it is in reference to information you provided. Without any explanation, how is anyone expected to provide you with an example of whatever it is you are asking for? --Creol(talk)

What I meant was there is only one example of ratings, being the PCGamer one, and some more reviews are needed--Lallint (talk) 13:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

There is another rating in that same sentence. With 2 ratings referenced and an additional "its number one" ref which basically is a rating, how many more people do you need it to be rated by? and how is this needed to explain what the topic is? It is already proven that the product was well received. A listing of how everyone rated it realy does not help. --Creol(talk) 13:55, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Signature

Hello! I noticed that your signature has an image. Images cannot be used in signatures per WP:SIGN. I ask that you remove the image, thanks! — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 00:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know Lallint (talk) 00:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Defaultsort

On Wikipedia, people should be sorted by surname. You can make the categories sort this way by using a code called DEFAULTSORT. You just have to put this on the page: {{DEFAULTSORT:LastName, FirstName}} It should be right above the categories. Lights and freedom (talk) 17:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Lallint (talk) 17:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Will Smith

It doesn't really matter which link is on there, but Wiktionary links are sometimes used when Wikipedia articles aren't appropriate. We don't remove red links but replacing them with Wiktionary links is ok in my opinion. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know Lallint (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

wikt:Prohibition is a word that should be defined by a dictionary, where prohibition refers to a period in American history that can be described in an encyclopedia. Links to wiktionary are preferred when using complex words that there are not good, simple substitutes for. Best, Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 16:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Userboxes

The userboxes you've created, especially the ones calling for proxy edits which got you blocked on enwiki will result in a WP:ONESTRIKE block here. I'll be happy to delete them for you but they need to be removed from your User and talk pages. Operator873 ^connect 19:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

This userbox was a joke mocking the constant messages that people on simplewiki keep getting constantly by sockpuppets, such as on User talk:FireDragonValo, User talk:Pure Evil, and pretty much everybody who participates on simplewiki (even myself!). This has been going on since early 2021 by who I assume is the same person, and this userbox was intended to mock it, and not actually request that the edits be done. Sorry for the misunderstanding, though. Lallint (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I've removed the userbox from my userpage. Lallint (talk) 19:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Operator873 ^connect 19:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

So will I be punished? Lallint (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

You should consider yourself subject to ONESTRIKE going forward but I'm not planning on blocking you since you removed the userboxes. Make better choices. Operator873 ^connect 19:50, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I think that this is unnecessary considering that the userbox was pretty obviously satire intended to mock the endemic issue of this sockpuppet and not actually requesting the edits be done or even specifying what edits should be done to the page, just some broad statement referencing those fateful words that I have seen so often on talk pages that it is embedded into my brain. Lallint (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make helpful changes to Wikipedia. However, some of your changes, like those to "Journey", did not seem to be helpful and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try out changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb I think this revert was a mistake? This is the target of the page on enwiki. Lallint (talk) 23:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

We do not follow enWP. They are a guideline for us. The redirect page has been in place for a very long time. You can create the disambiguation on the band page though. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:42, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb But even if I wasn't following enwiki or checking to see what page Journey redirects to on enwiki, I still would have redirected it to travel. Marking these edits as "Vandalism" despite them clearly being the correct choice then leaving two messages on my talk page saying it's vandalism and another saying it's a test edit is incredibly unreasonable and over-the-top. I mean, did you click the wrong button or do you just use this anti-vandalism tool as your default reverting tool? I feel like Adam Sandler in the airplane scene in "Anger Management" right now. Lallint (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Please do not make test changes on Wikipedia pages, like the ones you made to "Travel", even if you want to remove them later. Changes like these are seen as vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to do more tests, please use the sandbox. Thank you. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:41, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Please do not make unhelpful changes to Wikipedia, like you did to Journey. The changes you made seem to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Journey is not a popular use of the word travel. It is a synonym of it. Please stop changing it and remember you are under the WP:ONESTRIKE rule. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb Okay, then you could have just reverted the edit without calling it vandalism twice and test edits. I seriously don't want to seem like those disruptive editors that freak out when they are warned, but this is incredibly unreasonable. Lallint (talk) 23:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

The first warning is telling you to use the sandbox. It is not a bad faith. The 2nd and 3rd are because you have already read and commented on the warning, then went and reverted back to the change I had removed. So yes, this is vandalism and project disruption. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb I really don't want to get into some heated argument so please try not to freak out when I say this, but I don't think you understand the definition of vandalism. Vandalism is when somebody intentionally disrupts the site knowing that what they are doing is bad and will harm it, and they are doing it in entirely bad faith. When I made that edit, I thought that you had left the message on my talk page and marked the revision as vandalism as an accident, not realizing that it was intentional. It may have been disruptive editing (which I even don't think is true), but it certainly wasn't vandalism. Lallint (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

So first off, do not accuse me of now knowing the difference. Secondly, they are all level 1 and 2 warnings. Level 1 assumes good faith. Level 2 does not assume good or bad faith, as it is mutual. I had left the message, and you proceeded to re-enter the bad changes by reversing my edits. If I took it to a level 3 or 4, or a single issue, then that would be a problem. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:03, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb, Lallint's redirect wasn't completely unreasonable. For now, I have converted it to a disambig, as we have several pages that start with "Journey". — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 00:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Fehufanga Thank you I saw that. However, it was pointed to one article amongst many. Thank you for fixing that. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:10, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for making it into a disambig. Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 00:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb I reverted your reverting before you added any explanation to why you reverted it or why you marked it as vandalism, and I thought that the message was a mistake. I thought, maybe he used his anti-vandalism tool to revert a non-vandalism change as a mistake instead of using the normal undo button, maybe he just misclicked, maybe he misread "travel" and thought it was some nsfw page, there was a bunch of thoughts of what it could have been and I assumed it was a misclick. Why did you mark it as vandalism instead of as a gfa? I really didn't do any of this in bad faith. This is the second time that I was punished for good-faith edits because it was an incorrect edit, I swear my luck is horrible on this site. Lallint (talk) 00:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Just a heads up, pings don't work if you've already signed the message. You'll need to sign it again in the same edit as the fix, or ping in a separate reply. If we didn't have an article about the band of that name and a video game of that name, that would've been a resonable redirect. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 00:15, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

There was only one other article I saw that was named "journey" so I figured an entire disambig page was unnecessary if there was only one (that I saw) page of the name "journey" so I figured that the best choice was to have a tag at the top of the article saying "Hey, if you came here from journey and were actually looking for some band, then here's that article!". I honestly think marking it as "vandalism" was unnecessary, and to me it seems like PDL is the one doing the bad faith edits (but of course that's an incredibly biased opinion). Lallint (talk) 00:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Marking it as vandalism was unnecessary, but stating the opinion that PDL is making bad faith edits is also unnecessary. This is a misunderstanding that really doesn't need to continue past this point. Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I agree and both of us got carried away, but I guess one opinion that we decided to fight for led to another, and now 75% of the damn page is just arguing over three silly little edits. As a reference to the "Anger Management" airplane scene from earlier, it seems you are the security guard, but instead of tasing me because I am not as high up in the chain of Wikipedia as he is you handled it the way you should have, stating mistakes we both made. So, sorry about this dumpster fire of a thread. Lallint (talk) 00:23, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

It is not bad luck, you just need to be more cautious in what you do and ensure it is the correct thing to do. If you are not sure, ask it at WP:Simple Talk. This is the best place to ask questions if you are not sure. You also should never assume. There is an old saying "Assumptions are the mother of all F****ups." It holds true on all aspects of life. We have plenty of help pages and the main editors will gladly help you. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

PDL, you assumed bad faith. Twice. With...three templated talk page warnings. I would have made the same edit to that page had I landed on it, or made it into a disambig as it is currently. Please...not everything needs to go to a template, not everything needs to go to an argument. We can manage 99% of issues through civil talk page discussions, assuming the either side wants what is best for the project and working through disagreements. Lallint's edits were not vandalism. Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 00:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

...but WP:AGF? Lallint (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Hiyas

Hey Lalliant! Hope all is well. I wondering if you could do me a favor. I see you adding tags to articles and fixing some gnomes on them. Can you also add if it is a stub as well please? I have a script at the top of my window next to my twinkle that lets me select it and it places it at the very bottom of the article. If you need to, you can copy my commons.js to get all the scripts I use which are awesome in helping out. Thanks! PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:58, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I've already installed twinkle, and I've been using your scripts lately, and they're pretty helpful. Lallint (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

And to me that article didn't seem to be a stub, in my opinion stubs are usually less than 1kB Lallint (talk) 16:08, 10 July 2022 (UTC):

So when you have to judge a stub, it is not by the size of the article, as the size of the article includes everything, including codes, template words, etc. So on your left you will "word count" If you use that, use the first number that shows the amount of words (not the one with the amount of words and (something else). Following Wikipedia:Stub in the first sentence, generally any article with less than 1500 characters is considered a stub. But this has to be content, not including footers, infoboxes, markup, etc. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:50, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

So I looked it up: "The average word in the English language is 4.7 characters." That could be a little lower for our standards since we use simple english which are shorter words for the most part. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:59, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

WP:AN

On the administrators' noticeboard, new posts go at the bottom of the page. BTW I'm looking into more sources for Bradley Winslow. Lights and freedom (talk) 21:32, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I think this book [1] would be good if you could find it in a library. I can't get access to it online. Lights and freedom (talk) 21:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I used a gadget that PDL uses for that, so it would be the gadget's fault Lallint (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

@Lallint which gadget did you use that did this? PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 21:51, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

RedWarn Lallint (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok. Yeah a few of those do not work on simple. AN is one of them you have to use twinkle for. Also for user name and user pages you have to use twinkle and not redwarn. They broke those on the backend and I submitted the request already. So when you post anything, I would go to the board and double check it was placed completely. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 00:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

User talk pages

Please do not archive or otherwise manage other users' talk pages, as you did with User talk:PotsdamLamb. Thank you. -- Auntof6 (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

IP userpages

Hey, just thought I'd let you know that IPs shouldn't have userpages so the IP userpage you just created could be deleted under U2. It could be moved to user talk though. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 20:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I’m logged in now (as you can see). I’ll tag the page. Lallint (talk) 🍔cheesborger🍔 21:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)