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Can you block this Wikipedian.

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Hello. This contributor by the id name 216.174.135.2 is just writing a parrot (I would say draw, but you know). Can you please block this contributor. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 5 June 2013, 16:03 (UTC).

Done by Mh7kJ. Please report vandalism to WP:VIP in the future. (by the way, your timestamp is incorrect) Chenzw  Talk  02:48, 6 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 05 June 2013

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Talkback

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Hello, Chenzw. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard.
Message added 11:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Pratyya (Hello!) 11:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata weekly summary #61

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Cookies!

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  Somebody has given you some cookies!

--Aaqib Waramchoi (talk) 17:57, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Talkback

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Hello, Chenzw. You have new messages at Reception123's talk page.
Message added 18:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.Reply

Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Talkback

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Hello, Chenzw. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard.
Message added 14:13, 8 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Pratyya (Hello!) 14:13, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Again.--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Again--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Actually, you don't really need to leave talkback notices on my user talk. WP:AN is a page that is heavily watched by almost every administrator, and this is a small wiki. We will be able to see new messages on AN. Chenzw  Talk  14:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm ready for the flood. Can you grant me that now?--Pratyya (Hello!) 13:44, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hey???!!!!--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I am not quite sure if you are really going to be flooding. If you are going to be creating 3-15 pages in your userspace, then wait 20 or so minutes before repeating the cycle, sorry, I wouldn't consider that repetitive and frequent enough to be called flooding. For flooding, we are probably expecting something similar to this. I don't think you will end up flooding Special:RecentChanges if you intend to space your edits 20-30 minutes apart. Furthermore, as volunteers, we all have limited time available. If we end up not being free enough to keep track of changes made while the flood flag is active, we have to remove the flag. Please let me know when you intend to make a sustained volume of edits to your userspace. Chenzw  Talk  14:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
As a point of (possible) interest, I was asked to limit repetitve changes to about 100 within a short period of time when not working under the flood flag. If you're doing less than that, then your fellow editors can live with seeing your edits in new changes. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 22:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Question

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Is a user allowed to delete the content of his own user talk?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 18:47, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Of course an editor can. Why not? Chenzw  Talk  18:50, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I didn't know because on the Romanian Wikipedia admins get kind of annoyed if someone deletes content of the user talk.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 04:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Talkback!

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Hello, Chenzw. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Simple talk.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Right here --Aaqib Hola!' 23:42, 10 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Double-vote

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Sorry for the double-vote, Chenzw.I wanted to vote for something else but I put it in the same section.I should have noticed myself.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 05:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Removal of rights

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Can you please expalin how removal of rights works? I would like to propose User:Only as he is inactive from october 2012.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please see WP:Inactive administrators. His rights will be removed (by a bureaucrat) on 1 January 2014 if he does not have a combined total of 100 edits or administrative actions by that time. Chenzw  Talk  15:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks for explaining.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I highly suggest you focus on working on articles and less on administrative stuff. It is things like this and the comments at requests for name changes that built up and got you into trouble last time. -DJSasso (talk) 16:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, i will take your advice DJsasso and focus more on articles and vandalism (reverting it) then administrative stuff.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2013/Koji Oda and Lenny Loosejocks

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These requests were meant to be closed.Can you please take care of them?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

You lasted 9 minutes without trying to get administrative stuff done. :P -DJSasso (talk) 17:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why do you call this administrative? It is about articles and deletions.Is that administrative?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Admins know when to close discussions. They will get to it. You don't need to worry about it. -DJSasso (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
 (change conflict)  Contrary to popular belief, most of us here are not robots. The deadline on community processes is merely a recommendation. There is no deadline on Wikipedia. Chenzw  Talk  17:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Template

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Simply you could have just helped with grammar! Because this is Simple English Wikipedia, right. Maybe it can be better translating: expanding ---> adding. --Aaqib Hola! 19:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. Chenzw  Talk  02:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

User:Oregonian

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Hello. I posted this fact on DYK (not under people, but under movies). He turned down a hook because "at some point one movie had to win first picture" or something like that, but he wrote down a fact about a show being the first Emmy award winner. I think he hates me and is just turning down hooks to annoy me. He's being a real bully and he said please don't post anything about Presidents, Chicago, and don't start posting facts about the Academy Awards. Can I do something to stop this user for being such a...(ugh can't say) but you know what I mean. Please write back. Thanks a bunch. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please unblock Mr.long1528 not a spambot

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Glaisher tagged it before I could even instruct the student to put in a link back to my page. Sorry for any confusion but it was very fast. Thanks, ELTted (talk) 08:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have submitted a request for the unlock. Apologies for the inconvenience. I will get back to you once this has been resolved. Chenzw  Talk  08:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Barnstar

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  The Original Barnstar
You a great contributor to this Wiki and you revert vandalism and take important admin decisions. Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 12 June 2013

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Wikidata weekly summary #62

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Lincoln predictions

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As I wrote on 21:39, 13 June 2013, ‎ it is widely believed that Lincoln might have known of his assassination before he died. According to Ward Hill Lamon, Lincoln's friend and biographer, three days before his assassination Lincoln discussed with Lamon and others a dream he had, saying:

"About ten days ago, I retired very late. I had been up waiting for important dispatches from the front. I could not have been long in bed when I fell into a slumber, for I was weary. I soon began to dream. There seemed to be a death-like stillness about me. Then I heard subdued sobs, as if a number of people were weeping. I thought I left my bed and wandered downstairs. There the silence was broken by the same pitiful sobbing, but the mourners were invisible. I went from room to room; no living person was in sight, but the same mournful sounds of distress met me as I passed along. I saw light in all the rooms; every object was familiar to me; but where were all the people who were grieving as if their hearts would break? I was puzzled and alarmed. What could be the meaning of all this? Determined to find the cause of a state of things so mysterious and so shocking, I kept on until I arrived at the East Room, which I entered. There I met with a sickening surprise. Before me was a catafalque, on which rested a corpse wrapped in funeral vestments. Around it were stationed soldiers who were acting as guards; and there was a throng of people, gazing mournfully upon the corpse, whose face was covered, others weeping pitifully. 'Who is dead in the White House?' I demanded of one of the soldiers, 'The President,' was his answer; 'he was killed by an assassin.' Then came a loud burst of grief from the crowd, which woke me from my dream. I slept no more that night; and although it was only a dream, I have been strangely annoyed by it ever since." Lincoln of course laughed it off but one wonders what Lincoln thought? I am sure he had long since taken a fatalistic attitude as to his office and his life. He know there were many who wanted to kill him and given the chance they would. Col. Crook who worked detail at the White House when Lincoln went to Fords Theater for the last time said something that got Crooks attention...Every evening he would say to Crook as he left or retired "goodnight Crook" ...On the night of April 14, 1865...He walked out to Crook and said "GOODBYE Crook". It really got Crooks attention Lincoln had never said that before. But it was just chance...Who knew, most of all Lincoln.

So, why is not allowed on here, I know it is silly to think that dreams can predict the future but it is on the Lincoln assassination on Wikipedia on English, so why not here? 15:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Osiris sums it up pretty well over here. Chenzw  Talk  16:06, 15 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Inappropriate message

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I have left a message on the users talk page.What do you think?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 14:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Can you please give me a link to the message itself? Chenzw  Talk  15:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
It is on the users user page "Hello everybody, if anything or someone's contributions are wrong. Please report them to me. I will handle the user for a little while and if I am not satisfied with the user. I will report the user to an administrator. Thank you!".Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
(TPS) It doesn't seem that bad actually. It could be construed as he is willing to try to 'mentor' the user and teach them how to contribute positively. He does say if he can't then an admin would deal with them. As an admin (Chenzw is too, and may have a different POV) I'd be happy if someone tried to reason with a troublesome user and teach them how to contribute before taking formal action. Anyway, I'll stop snooping, I'll be over there if you need me... → :P Kennedy (talk) 15:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, you are right Kennedy.I think the user should change the message a bit, at least.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
  Resolved.

User deleted the comment.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:29, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I agreed with Reception123 that the comment is formally "lieing" to people as says in there. --Aaqib Hola! 17:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

If you would like to help...

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Hi ZW, would you like to help with en:2013 Singapore haze and en:2013 Southeast Asian haze? Perhaps you want to chip in there and put in whatever information you know/can find? Cheers. :) Arctic Kangaroo () 02:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Your warning on User talk:58.96.117.134

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Hi ZW, I'm puzzled. You always start with a L2 warning, but here you start with L3 straightaway. I have come across many instances of bad vandalism or obvious bad faith here and gave straight L3 warning, but you always feedback to me about giving L2 warning. Could you just let me understand why you did so? Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo () 04:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

That was because the editor attempted to disguise their vandalism through the edit summary. The edit summary was written with the intention to mislead recent changes patrollers. Chenzw  Talk  05:23, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Then what if the edit summary says nothing, but it's obvious vandalism, like the insertion of profanities, "trolololol", insulting the reader or subject of article, or something like these? Arctic Kangaroo () 15:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Generally you should start at 1 or 2. On some rare instances something higher is warranted. Most people prefer you start on 1. I tend to start on 2. -DJSasso (talk) 15:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
 (change conflict)  In that case, I would start off with a L2 warning. Then again, it depends on the situation. There are exceptions possible - eg. sustained, heavy vandalism during a period of time when no admin is active, and then you go online and notice it. For such a situation, I would tend to block immediately. There is no rule indicating that you have to start from a particular level when you warn vandals. Just use your own discretion and consider the past contribution history of the IP. Of course, do keep in mind that most IPs (I am not even talking about school IPs) are shared by different people (who are mostly unrelated to one another). Chenzw  Talk  15:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 19 June 2013

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Template:Period color testcase page and issues using this template because of revert

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I went onto the testcases page of Template:Period color and all the colors ended up wiped out with your revert. This comment also applys to the admins noticeboard but I found you reverting it (in the history page) and I know you're one (list of admins page). When you reverted:

  • all colors were wiped out for the stages
  • some misspellings came
  • and invented codes came too.

The invented codes were:

  • All of Permian including the Permian
  • Cretaceous epochs
  • Devonian epochs
  • Palaeoproterozoic epochs
  • Eoarchaean
  • Upper Ordovician
  • A couple more
  • Actually all invented values are more grayish

The misspellings were: (correct spelling here)

  • Darriwilian stage Ordovician
  • Jiangshanian stage Cambrian
  • Terreneuvian epoch Cambrian
  • Removal of spelling compatibility for the simple english.wiki

Your changes caused:

I made a bunch of changes so that one change you make to a (all period) template(s) will mess up many (all) templates using them. I guess it's time for you to change back your reverts too my last revision to fix every issue I mention here. Actually I mention every single issue here. 24.218.110.195 (talk) 22:15 20 June 2013 (UTC) 6:15pm 06/20/2013 EDT.

The reason of protection says edit warring and dispute. There is no edit war, I was fixing and updating values and updating it from sandbox and fixing/adding spellings.. Some changes were made before I made sandbox. During this time there was no dispute. The history has just me doing the fixing and updating and fixing/adding spellings. 24.218.110.195 (talk) 00:09 21 June 2013 (UTC) 8:09pm 06/20/2013 EDT.
Finally, I have been waiting for you to give me a response regarding this. You had 4 days to challenge the reversion. Since I have decided to give you ample warning before undoing the changes, I had hoped that the same courtesy will be extended to me in that you let me know about any concerns you have. Please also address the concerns of the community at Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Official_colors_for_Historical_geology.2FGeological_period_articles.2Ftemplates. Chenzw  Talk  03:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Smile

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--Aaqib ♥ Hola! 01:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Category:Laws of thought

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You created Category:Laws of thought back in 2008 and it seems to have been sitting empty and untouched for some time now. Thought I would ask if there is a need for it and letting you decide it's fate rather than just QD'ing it.--Creol(talk) 14:59, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Nope, there is no need for it at present - there are still not enough articles to populate it (I count 2). In addition, the corresponding cat on EN was renamed to Category:Rules of inference. Chenzw  Talk  15:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Removing (hiding)

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Please remove the email address of this user : User:PBASH607 as he put it on his user page.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 05:01, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I mean the user published his email like I did before.Can you take it off and hide the version of the page?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 12:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
And here : User:Kvr.lohith.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why didn't you take care of it?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
  Not done - Please see WP:YOUNG and en:Wikipedia:USER#Personal_and_privacy-breaching_material. Both Djsasso and I have a reasonable amount of evidence to believe that you are not entirely aware of the implications of placing your personal data on your user page. Chenzw  Talk  02:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I do not get it.Why do you keep assuming that i am am a child? What prove do you have?Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 14:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
You mean other than the fact that you consistently act like you are 12 years old or younger? -DJSasso (talk) 15:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Careful. ^ Kennedy (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
It was a serious comment. He quite clearly acts like someone who is under the age of 12. Although I shouldn't nail it down to a specific age I suppose. So I will say his actions portray him to be quite young.-DJSasso (talk) 15:32, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Or to put it another way: your recent conduct and the circumstances which led to your original block do not convince us beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not a minor. Chenzw  Talk  15:35, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Believe what you want. I am not going to force you to believe anything but I am not a minor.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 13:09, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
By the way, that was my "Wikipedia" email for "Wikipedia" only.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 13:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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"I am not going to force you to believe anything but I am not a minor" - so I still endorse Djsasso's deletion, and will not reverse it. I am sorry, please look for another administrator if you really want the revision undeleted. Chenzw  Talk  13:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata weekly summary #63

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
  • Events/Press
  • Did you know?
    • Newest properties: E number (P628), edition of (P629), Paris city digital code (P630), structural engineer (P631), cultural properties of Belarus reference number (P632), Répertoire du patrimoine culturel du Québec identifier (P633), captain (P634), ISTAT ID (P635), route of administration (P636), Protein ID (P637), PDB ID (P638), RNA ID (P639), Léonore ID (P640), sport (P641), of (P642), Genloc Chr (P643), Genloc Start (P644), Genloc End (P645), Freebase identifier (P646), drafted by (P647), Open Library identifier (P648), NRHP (P649), RKDartists (P650), BPN (P651), UNII (P652), PubMed Health (P653), direction relative to location (P654)
  • Development
    • Worked on site-link group editing to make it possible to link to sisterprojects
    • Further work on input validation
    • Further work on handling invalid data gracefully
    • Use Serializers for generating API results
    • Finished selenium tests for TimeUI and CoordinateUI
    • Changed globe coordinate value input to use backend coordinate parser
    • Fixed issues with data type definitions not being available in the frontend
    • Wrote a little hack so that on statements with a long list of values you will always be able to see the name of the property of the current section you are in (since the label moves when scrolling the page)
  • Open Tasks for You

Doppleganger account

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Hi Chenzw! I have seen many people have doppleganger accounts and all of them have the dopplegangers for good reasons. I too have one for good reasons. Will my doppleganger account be blocked? Because I have never had a bad history with doppleganger accounts and in real life, I am very trustworthy. --Aaqib Hola! 22:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

See http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kennedy&diff=prev&oldid=4468238, although I'd be interested to know what these 'good' reasons are... Goblin 22:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Mh7kJ!Reply
BG7 pretty much sums it up, and I would also be rather interested to know what your good reasons are. There's no obligation for you to tell me those reasons, though. Chenzw  Talk  01:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks

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  TDKR Chicago 101 has given you some cookies! Now enjoy them!

Thank you for all the help you have given me over the weeks. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Gold Award!

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I am giving you this award because you have been such an awesome administrator. I hope you never give up! --Aaqib Hola! 21:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Good Article

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Hello! I'm wondering if my article James Gandolfini can be a good article. It has good reliable sources in every sentence in the article. I know it's a long shot, but can you write suggestions on what to fix on the article, so that it can be a good one. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Until we reach consensus on Wikipedia:Simple talk#Geological navigational boxes, let me remove the table template and add the main nav template on the page "Hadean". This is a speedly edit/move I will make. Do not call this move(edit/change) as part as edit warring. 24.218.110.195 (talk) 15:32 22 June 2013 (UTC) 11:32am 06/22/2013 EDT.

Template:Proterozoic is narrower then the images below it. Please keep the page Ediacaran (and Hadean) the way it is. The page doesn't look bad to me. The template doesn't really dominate the page as it did before I cut the Precambrian piece off the template.24.218.110.195 (talk) 21:54 22 June 2013 (UTC) 5:54pm 06/22/2013 EDT.

Need help!

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Chenzw, can you help me into thinking straight so I won't get blocked, this is my first wiki I have been to, can you help? --Aaqib Hola! 19:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I am not sure what you want me to help with. Try reading through our rules and guidelines. Chenzw  Talk  01:52, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

DYK Robert E. Lee

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I've reworked the DYK Robert E. Lee nom. Please take a look and make suggestions. Oregonian2012 (talk) 02:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Protection

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Can you please autoconfirmed protect User talk:Reception123/Editnotice (User requests within own user space)? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:19, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:20, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Your change

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Hello Chenzw, in your summary, you stated (How is this article confusing?). It's okay, everyone make mistakes. Why I thought it was confusing was that it kept jumping one place to another. No sections. So that's what I thought. --Aaqib 17:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

It reads fine. But if you thought it was confusing, then you should probably write it so that it's not confusing. You added the content after all. No idea what you mean about sections. Osiris (talk) 17:31, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
True, but I couldn't explain it that good. I was in a rush. --Aaqib 17:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia has no deadline. Chenzw  Talk  17:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I see. --Aaqib 17:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit summary

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I nearly choked when I saw this edit summary: [1] "replace with eptalon's image" on the Playboy article. Almost didn't want to load the page... :P Kennedy (talk) 19:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Eptalon is a great photographer! :P Chenzw  Talk  00:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Majulah Singapura!

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Majulah Singapura Chenzw! You are a Singeporean, I'm a Sri Lankan. Sri Lanka and Singapore are closed related. Anyway, see you! --Aaqib 22:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea what you are trying to mean, but okay... Chenzw  Talk  07:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

broken images

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I am in the process of finishing up the cleaning up the backlog for broken images. There are pages listed at Category:Pages with broken file links in your userspace. As you are an active user, I don't want to go around editing your userspace without permission, advanced warnings, etc so I am wondering if you could look at the pages in question and clear the errors. --Creol(talk) 16:55, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 26 June 2013

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Wikidata weekly summary #64

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
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