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missed ya

show your head on IRC every now and then ;) haven't seen you for ever. James (T C) 03:20, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

What he said. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

^My thoughts exactly. :P —Classical Esther^talk 03:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I've been on my Basic Officer Training Course for the British Army, (better known here as the "Tarts & Vicars" course) ;). I will be a "combat" regimental medical officer (RMO) in Afghanistan in Sep 2010. I finally decided I had to "pick up a rifle", "stand a post" and support our heroic troops directly. It was nice to spend the last month as "Major Fr33kman" :). I know that James and NVS know what I mean. fr33kman 03:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear! I would have prayed for you that you wouldn't get hurt in the army. And by the way: thanks to your kind remark, old Mella Mouse (talk · contribs) is back. I hope she won't start pestering you! Belle ^{tête-à-tête} 03:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Dear Bella, I will duck down so far that I will be best friends with the worms; unless my men need me! One of my close relatives was worthy of the Victoria Cross and I pledge to not dishonour him. I'm neither a fool nor a coward. My biggest wish is to not have to hurt another person! fr33kman 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh!? interesting, we will have to talk :) I would have assumed you would be somewhere else in September. James (T C) 03:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Miss me?

Just dropped by to say hi. :D Simon^KSK 15:15, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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Flood flag

I'm done. πr² (talk • changes) 01:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Removed :) fr33kman 01:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, πr² (talk • changes) 01:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Anytime! :) fr33kman 01:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for renaming me! :) I've read your kind comments and will keep them in mind (though I probably won't be editing much on those wikis anyway, since it's very unlikely I'll ever be clever enough to learn those languages ;) ). Anyway, thank you once more for renaming me, and for the rest of your amazing work here! Sincerely, —Clementina^talk 10:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

You are very welcome, dear Clementina! BTW: I like your new sig, but I'm sure you'll change it over time as you get used to your new name! :) fr33kman 10:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

A4

Have a look at this: 02:21, 19 June 2010 Chenzw (talk | changes) deleted "Gandoh Tehsil" ‎ (QD A4: The page does not show notability) πr² 17:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

And? I've explained that he used the wrong reason. fr33kman 17:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

The reversion was not a problem. I realized I said "trying" which it took to mean messing it up. Also, thanks for the helpful tips on the page! That will help me get the HIV article into shape : ) M4rg3 (talk) 03:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I love you

I think I'm the only one that gets the undermeaning here and I compliment your wit.  :) Jon@talk:~$ 05:59, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

;) fr33kman 18:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Twinkle

I noticed that you are using User:Azatoth/twinkle.js but would like to point out that the code there is very outdated and not localized to Simple. I have been working on Twinkle for quite some time and have a localized and updated version at User:EhJJ/twinkle.js. Just letting you know; you are welcome to use either/neither/both versions. EhJJ^TALK 15:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Constitution of the UK

I'm not too sure if by rewording I've tweaked the meaning any, so could you please check over my changes here? (Also... a couple of imports waiting at AN, if you're free.) Thanks, sonia^♫♪ 09:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

That looks fine Sonia! Thanks for correcting my spelling, stupid dyslexia. :( I'll do the imports also. Thanks! fr33kman 09:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For working behind the scenes keeping the wiki free from sockpuppetry. Your work is appreciated. Griffinofwales (talk) 04:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, and no worries! Grrr to the vandals! :) fr33kman 04:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Other projects

I saw that you blocked Tyciol, and I agree with that. He is also blocked at Wikiversity. I was bothered that Sue Gardner did not take a hard enough stance on the matter to ensure that there were not people stating that such individuals should be allowed to edit based on inappropriate claims that such people "do nothing wrong". This was to set in stone many of Wikiversity's own practices, and it would be interesting to have Simple put forth some more blatant statements, since Simple is a place with many minors. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:08, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

As I told Tyciol, the reason I have blocked him here and at the Simple English Wiktionary is because he is blocked by ArbCom at enwiki. We have a policy that an admin is allowed to block any user who is blocked on another WMF site, without warning. It is true that we also have a one-strike-rule, but it is discretionary, and not automatic. I have decided not to use it in this case. I do not know what happened in that particular ArbCom case. I have read all the various comments across WMF-land, and what I've read is worrying, but I have no comments or judgements to make regarding those comments or this particular case.

On another note, all together, I do agree that anyone who self-identifies themself as a pedophile should be globally blocked. The Simple English Wikipedia does indeed have minors who are editors and readers and so we do take such matters very seriously. I think the correct place for any such policy, however, would be at meta, probably with input from WMF counsel and the board. fr33kman 20:42, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Message?

I seem to have a message saying that you have sent me a message, but I can't see it anywhere. Am I being stupid? Hikitsurisan (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

The message was left here for you in the later part of October 2009, here. I archive parts of my talk page as they become old. :) fr33kman 23:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Why are we doing this, won't it just become another timesink? Best, Jon@talk:~$ 00:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Because he has making a pest of himself elsewhere/everywhere. As such, I have decided to explain fully, let him respond once and then reblock the talk page. fr33kman 00:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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GoblinBot3 (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again. Polymathsj (talk) 23:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome for the unblock. Be careful, and read the rules! I've noticed that you've had interactions with people aleady. Ask for advice if you are not sure about something. Start slowly!! Good luck! :) fr33kman 11:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Altered your block...

I have reinstated talk page access until an uninvolved administrator can handle the unblock request. Whilst I agree with the block, if you let the user state a case, I think we can at least let someone uninvolved handle the unblock template on User talk:Codedon. With utmost respect, Jon@talk:~$ 10:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

For the drama, and everything associated, I apologize. I should have messaged you and let you decide how to proceed. This is how I will handle that from now on. Regards, Jon@talk:~$ 11:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. fr33kman 11:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Lincoln

Wrote a paragraph at Simple talk. As it is at the moment, it is extremely bad publicity for us. --Eptalon (talk) 11:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm unsure about that, but I think it'll be just as fun as the last time! I'll stay out of it again, until someone needs either a medic or a referee :) fr33kman 12:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Fill me in, old chap.

Why did you block Bluegoblin7? I Haven't been on for some time, and I'm a bit confused. Simon^KSK 21:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Because he blocked a user whom he was involved in a dispute with and then wheel-warred. It's all very sad really. fr33kman 21:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmmm, but did you really have to block him? :/ Simon^KSK 21:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he made comments on IRC about going rogue. I don't think he meant it, but I was elected to not take the chance. Like I said, it's all very sad. I hope he sticks around, but he's been too impulsive and unrestrained in his anger in the past to ignore POV blocks, wheel warring and comments about doing the project harm (which I don't believe he would, but he's said it before also). fr33kman 21:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Strange, that doesn't seem like Bluegoblin. Yeah, it's very sad. I, too, hope he sticks around. Simon^KSK 21:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

It does seem like him to make threats, but I agree it doesn't seem like him to follow through. I don't think he would have, but I owe a duty of care firstly to the wiki. It'll probably come out more in his formal RFDA since my action was only temporary. He is still technically a sysop, just with out the buttons. fr33kman 21:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Your vote on Wikipedia:Requests for deadminship/Bluegoblin7

Hi Fr33kman, I have removed your vote on the above page per the rationale that "emotions may soar", especially when such little time has passed between the incident and the creation of the RfdA.[1] This is nothing against you and you are free to participate again in a few hours, when the 48 hours has passed and the protection has been lifted. If you have any queries, please feel free to ask me. Thanks, Chenzw  Talk  15:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Bluegoblin7 and Administratorship

Sorry for butting in again; I know it has been a stressful day for the entire community at large on Simple talk and elsewhere and that my actions have been bordering on WP:POINT, but I would still request some kind of cleanup for the mess. For one, I was considering having more admins on the simpleWiki after seeing the distressing conclusion that over 5000 users outnumbered the 41 (now 40) admins that we currently had (if you could help with this issue, it be greatly appreciated). When it suddenly occurred to me that Bluegoblin7 (sorry, Bluegoblin, but I had to use your name) was still on the list and that you remarked he was "temporarily" desysopped (I thought DeAdminships were permanent, especially this case?). I would like to request that you make the appropriate changes, i.e. to his userpage and the category page, to notify everybody, as I have been rather deeply involved already. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Can I still comment on the DeAdminship? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

He is still an administrator at the moment, why change things now? Jon@talk:~$ 07:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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Telecom, BG7 will be permanently (unless if he passes another RFA) desysopped if the formal request for his deadminship is closed as such. Currently he is only temporarily desysopped as a measure to stop wheelwarring. I hope this answers your question. Kindly, —Clementina talk 07:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I figured that since he's indef blocked, he can't even edit, let alone have admin powers. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes. But de-adminships that are done by a crat without an RfDA first are always temporary- the community confirms then whether the bit should be given back. (See WP:Emergency deflagging) He is only officially no longer an admin once the community confirms that he should not be an administrator, not before. I think you can still comment on the RfDA, as you would be able to if it were an RfA. sonia^♫♪ 07:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I'm still a little confused about this point: do we need more admins? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Not really, people have often argued that we have too many admins. :) Of the 5000 users, only a few are really active, and problems are usually solved pretty quickly here. Of course, that's just an opinion, but it seems to be general. Kindly, —Clementina talk 09:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The active users on the link you point to is extremely inaccurate. It takes into account anyone who has made an edit in like the last year or something. (not sure the exact formula) Which includes all the people who have only ever made one edit etc. In truth we only have about 30-35 at most regular users meaning we have more admins than we do regular users. -DJSasso (talk) 11:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually now that I look you are linking to just how many User pages there are. Which is even more inacurate because it has people who haven't edited in multiple years. -DJSasso (talk) 11:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, there are 9236 users on that page if you looked on the page (as of now), so I figured that 4000 of them must already be retired. If what you say is true, that we have that many retired users, then do we have a list of users who have edited within the past month? I would consider that at least a little more accurate. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 18:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Special:Statistics. 716 people have edited atleast once this month with a named account. But for people who edit regularely. We are probably closer to 30-35 in most peoples opinions. Regularely being multiple edits say 50-100+ a month. -DJSasso (talk) 18:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look at the special page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeleComNasSprVen (talk • contribs)

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I have an idea. How about we delete some of the userpages per en:WP:DENY and this nomination on the enWiki page? Besides, some editors might want to have the names of those userpages when they decide to create a new userpage. P.S. Where do you go to report inappropriate usernames? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that you report inappropriate usernames at WP:AN. πr² (talk • changes) 22:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

'Tis logical, seeing as how UAA redirects there. You can also feel free to drop by my talkpage, or any talkpage of an active admin that you trust. I'm around as much as I can be, even if I'm not actively editing. -- Lauryn Ashby (talk) 23:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

looking any better fr33kman?

i updated the godsmack page take a look if you will? thank you. --Snakerunner837 (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello Fr33kman could you please take a look at the following pages that have been vanalised by a user Discospinster. Especially edits on the pages: Behavioral Sink John B. Calhoun Sexual Orientation Human Sexual Activity. Your help is welcomed and appreciated.

All of those pages are redlinks. Simon^KSK 22:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

He appears to be confused (well not totally). The ip who left the message vandalized EnWiki and is complaining about a user who reverted him. James (T C) 22:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Autoblock

The IP autoblocks are often out of sync with the User blocks. This often leads to a practical effect of adding a "backdoor" extra few hours or more to a block. For example, my user block ended at 2:34 PM this afternoon, but since you had sent the autoblock for 5:30, I had to bug Griff at 3:00 to un-autoblock my IP so I could make the edits I was entitled to make since my block had expired. In order to keep this "blockdoor block" from happening, mops need to be better about synching the exact time of user blocks and IP autoblocks Purplebackpack89 04:28, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

An autoblock is just that, automatic, and not something that we can control. If I block you and enable autoblock, the window for the software to automatically block subsequent IPs that you attempt to edit from/log in with using my name is 24-hours, resulting in an autoblock being "out of sync" with the block placed on your account. -- Lauryn Ashby (talk) 04:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Then why did it show up two days after my block? And why was it enabled in the first place? Autoblock is primarily for long-term blocks and IP addresses that have been used (see en:Wikipedia:Autoblock). Mine was a short-term block, and the IP address in question has yet to be used. Autoblock is overused, IMO, and leads to "backdoor blocks" and/or more headaches for people willing to lift them. Purplebackpack89 04:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Your autoblocks and times they were placed are not something that I can go back and look over; since you're no longer blocked, they don't show up on the block list anymore, but I can assure you that it was done the same way as every other autoblock. In regards to autoblock being overused, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you. Going back to the example that I gave earlier, if I block you for a week and disable autoblock, then nothing prevents you from using another account in violation of your block, using a proxy that we haven't caught yet and creating a new account, or using your road account. Though if you used your road account while your main account is blocked, it would be quickly caught and dealt with. ;) In short, don't do things that can lead to blocks and it won't be something you have to worry about. You should also know that dealing with this type of thing is what administrators are for, so don't worry about any "headaches" it may cause. Sorry for the long response, and I hope this makes sense. If not, let me know and I'll attempt to clarify what isn't clear. -- Lauryn Ashby (talk) 04:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Userpage

Hi Fr33kman, the translation "Hola! Estoy Fr33kman y yo soy un operador del sistema global. Esto significa que tengo derechos de administrador aquí." sounds... weird. A proper translation should have been "¡Hola! Soy Fr33kman, y soy un administrador global. Esto significa que tengo derechos administrativos en muchos proyectos, incluyendo éste." Please correct it ;) Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 18:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought it sounded weird myself, but Spanish is not my best subject. I'll probably get other people to check the other ones as well. Thanks! fr33kman 19:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem. :) Diego Grez ^{let's talk} 00:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

If you have good spanish, you could go to esWiki. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 19:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't. I am just trying to make a generic userpage for my global sysop work. I will be adding babel boxes for what I do speak. Global sysops must have a userpage on each project they act on and I don't just want an interwiki redirect. fr33kman 19:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Flooding

Thanks, Fr33kman, for giving me the "Flooders" ability. I didn't understand it at first. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 00:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. Feel free to ask any admin for it if you are going to be making lots of small, non-controversial edits. You have to be careful not to perform large or controversial edits when it is on however. fr33kman 01:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Aphkhasian wiki

"Это означает, что я прав администратора на многих проектах, в том числе это один" would be much more readeable, when it is "Это означает, что я имею права администратора на многих проектах, в том числе на этом"

Also, what is your aim at ab:wiki?

--178.167.6.11 (Amin @ ab:wiki) (talk) 07:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Replied at amin@abwiki fr33kman 15:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Multilingual introduction

You keen on having your introduction message in some more languages? I can do. Gott wisst

Your sandbox

I edited the information above your sandbox. Do you like it?  Hazard-SJ ^Talk 07:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

My Sandbox

How do you like my sandbox?  Hazard-SJ ^Talk 09:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Translate "About Me" & "My actions here"

Hi, I translate them to zh-hant(Taiwan) and zh-hans(China). Some of them I'm not sure, so I list English behind. -zh:n:User:Ou0430 Ou0430 (talk) 15:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

• 中文（繁體） - 嗨，我是Fr33kman。我是一個全域管理員 (檢查)。這意味著我在許多計畫中擁有管理員的權限，包括這一個。

我在這裡的活動

身為一個全域管理員，我的職責與本地管理員相同。我能處理破壞、頁面刪除及頁面保護。如果您需要幫助卻找不到本地管理員，可以和我聯繫（見下方）。而我不做回退及flood flags (where they exist)，這要去找本地的管理員才行。如果找不到，請向監管員尋求幫助。

只有在很罕見的機會我才會得到行政員的事件關於認定本地用戶。 (Only on the rare occasion will I get involved in adminstrative events regarding established local users.)

如何聯絡我

聯絡我的最好的方式是利用email 或是 這裡。

• 中文（簡体） - 嗨，我是Fr33kman。我是一个全域管理员 (检查 )。这意味着我在许多计画中拥有管理员的权限，包括这一个。

我在这里的活动

身为一个全域管理员，我的职责与本地管理员相同。我能处理破坏、页面删除及页面保护。如果您需要帮助却找不到本地管理员，可以和我联系（见下方）。而我不做回退及flood flags (where they exist)，这要去找本地的管理员才行。如果找不到，请向监管员寻求帮助。

只有在很罕见的机会我才会得到行政员的事件关于认定本地用户。 (Only on the rare occasion will I get involved in adminstrative events regarding established local users.)

如何联络我

联络我的最好的方式是利用email 或是这里。

Thanks very much for the translations! I have used Google Translate for some of the languages I don't have a clue about, so it's bound to sound a bit odd! :) fr33kman 19:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Mod status

I recently realised that four mods have posted on my profile! Where can I obtain mod status?! Protector of Wiki (talk) 18:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean "...that four sysops...on my talkpage?" If so, you must go through a Request for adminship. You must meet the criteria. πr² (talk • changes) 18:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Do I meet the criteria?! Protector of Wiki (talk) 18:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

No. If you read the page, you can find out what is required. [[User:PiRSquared17|πr²]] (talk • changes) 18:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Also read this. πr² (talk • changes) 18:56, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

So I can run after three months have elapsed?! Have you run for mod before?! Protector of Wiki (talk) 18:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

No, I have never done so. You do not just get handed out the sysop flag after three months. You have to show vandal fighting, that you will use the tools, etc. πr² (talk • changes) 19:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

RFDA Extension

If you don't mind taking a look at the talk page, when you are able. Best, Jon@talk:~$ 23:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Message

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Mail

You got one, from me :) -Barras (talk) 11:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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