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Greetings -- thank you for the welcome. I'm a long-time (10+ years) contributor at en: and may edit here from time to time. I'll look around a bit to see what the 'house style' is first, i.e before inadvertently burying something formerly comprehensible under a heap of pompous polysyllabicity. All the best, Antandrus (talk) 20:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

w:m:Global_block_of_Orange_ranges_(2015)

w:en:User:Projects is the same as w:m:Global_block_of_Orange_ranges_(2015)

This should be in meta wiki? Nigos (talk · contribs) 12:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey, hi. I think I am starting to understand what is going on. There are two deranged editors ("Wikinger" and "Projects"/GRP) and one is partly copying the other's style. Yeah, will probably need page protection. Thanks -- Antandrus (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

a question

i see from your userpage that you edit on enwiki more than here. do you only edit here to take care of that one guy and make article edits on the side? or do you mainly focus on article edits. i am not trying to accuse you of anything i just ask to collect some data and possibly nominate an active editor for admin. Computer Fizz (talk) 19:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Honestly -- I probably started here by chasing various vandals -- this one guy (the "George Reeves Person", banned by the WMF) has been harassing us for more than 13 years (!!!) and I guess I'm an unintended "specialist" in dealing with him. I haven't done too many article edits on simple; I'm not really sure what the appropriate level of "simplicity" needs to be. I'm mainly an article creator on en: and an administrator there, but I don't do as much as I used to. Thanks for helping out with that. (He loves to make all-caps threats, but -- they're just like a dog barking through the neighbor's fence.) Antandrus (talk) 20:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

The I. P

HiAntandrus, the allegations this IP is making are quite heavy, to the extent of rape. Shouldn't you make a police report on cyber bullying? --DJ ( - ) 20:47, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Just a heads up: I have rolled back this page to before george posted and manually restored this post. Just thought i should say incase it now makes this inapplicable. Computer Fizz (talk) 20:53, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
thanks Computer Fizz -- (here's my original response to Razor) -- Yeah -- the police need to know. He lives in Chicago. He spent almost three years in jail for exactly this, but clearly hasn't learned. He uses a service to mask his IP.
I've done a bit of research on him. Had to, back when he first started making threats. Don't want to say too much publicly, but -- it's just a matter of time until he's back in Cook County jail. Antandrus (talk) 20:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Oh, just one other thing -- he projects in the most literal way -- accusations he makes of others are, almost without exception, and in disturbing detail, things he is actually doing himself. Including the literal wording of legal charges. Anyway enough. :) Have to do some other things today. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 20:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@RazorTheDJ: That person had made the same allegations on my talk page on commons against another admin, although it has been suppressed from the page history. Nigos (talk · contribs) 11:20, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Just to clarify... is that person Wikinger? Nigos (talk · contribs) 11:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Nigos: I think he was called Ljupco something. but i read that page and a lot of the abuse matches in very big detail so maybe i'm wrong. Computer Fizz (talk) 13:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I think Wikinger and Ljupco are the same person, although a globally banned user usually "helps" him out. Nigos (talk · contribs) 13:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
The George Reeves Person (this guy we are talking about) lives in Chicago; as far as I know Wikinger lives in Poland. They're different. Wikinger copycats GRP sometimes (he copies and pastes previous GRP rants so they look genuine). They have different obsessions. See the LTA page on Wikinger (that you linked above). I am thinking of starting a new LTA page on the GRP, just so I can link it rather than explaining anew each time. Antandrus (talk) 14:19, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

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Does GRP have a "primary" username? Computer Fizz (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Yep - he's this guy. We've usually called him the "George Reeves Person" but he has gone by lots of different names over the years - Gogi, Goran, George, Freddy, Vesa, BoxingWear, Ljupco, Jan, ... He pretends to be a lot of different people, members of a "chess club", and he's been weirdly consistent with these names going all the way back to 2005. When he harasses people over the phone (he will do that if he gets your number) he even imitates their voices. Antandrus (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
So this guy is just but a wannabee?🤣.We should totally suppress this idle guy,Simplewiki is not a haven of crooks, it's a relatively happy community. Mockery,blocks from the admins will be a good way to silence him even though not entirely --DJ ( - ) 17:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
He will never be a good editor. Just won't happen. I'm thinking that just blocking, reverting, ignoring is the way forward. I have tried engaging with him recently, trying to talk to him, but it isn't working.
Indeed -- this is a relatively happy community -- keep it that way :) Antandrus (talk) 18:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
i haven't been interacting with him at all just reverting, and it seems to be working for the most part. he kept telling me to "check my email", and, i got his email i just didn't reply. Computer Fizz (talk) 18:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Check outthis, now he claims he is (us). I think its more of a mental issue. It looks like he has a legion of hooligans in his brain --DJ ( - ) 23:12, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Lol.
"Legion of hooligans in his brain" is maybe the most perfect phrase I have seen -- ever -- to describe his mental illness. I feel for him; I do. He suffers. I wish he would get help, but I don't think he has the means. What he writes describes, with uncanny accuracy, what he does to others, and has done since early 2006.
I have some of his court records, and know a lot more than I am letting on here. Peace and happiness, and may simplewiki continue to be a welcoming place. Antandrus (talk) 23:27, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@RazorTheDJ: I removed his comments on your talk page. Just ignore his rants, as he's WMF-banned anyway. Nigos (talk · contribs) 23:36, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I don’t think he would waste money to annoy users over the phone, especially if they live outside the US. Why would he spend 1 dollar a minute to annoy users for 10 minutes? Nigos (talk · contribs) 00:15, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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he totally would though. Computer Fizz (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

I only know of him doing that with people in the US (probably shouldn't name them...) That's how I got the first break in figuring out who he was; he left his phone number unblocked once, and the person he was harassing gave me details. Antandrus (talk) 01:09, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

password reset

Has anyone else getting password reset emails from his IP addresses? Also, is he actually trying to hijack our accounts or just sending them to be annoying? Computer Fizz (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, he does that all the time. He does both -- to be annoying, and he also tries to guess people's passwords.
Ljupco, if you are reading this, you haven't sent me a password reset yet today. I told you to do it every day. No exceptions. You know the rules, now get to it. Antandrus (talk) 02:50, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I've only gotten two so far. Maybe i'm lucky.
I am gonna add a fabricator to prevent ips who are blocked from sending password resets. Computer Fizz (talk) 03:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a really bad idea. Vermont (talk) 03:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Yea, me too. He has been sending password resets from IP addresses in Poland, Bhutan, and many other countries. Probably a VPN. Preventing blocked IPs from sending password resets is useless as the IPs sending them may not have even edited, so they haven’t been blocked. Nigos (talk · contribs) 06:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
After having reverted his edits, I can also confirm that I've received password resets from strange IP addresses. Reception123 (talk) 06:44, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Well, that won’t stop unless there is an official order to prevent him from doing that. Nigos (talk · contribs) 06:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Same here, twice.  — FR 06:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Computer Fizz, This already happens. MediaWiki already disallows Password reset requests from blocked IP addresses. GRP used another different IP address to send the password reset request.  — FR 07:15, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I"m a little worried this person is going to harm someone IRL. He's outta control. Antandrus (talk) 13:41, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
He's also sending me the ip reset mails, he's junk and a mental retard,, stupid guy--DJ ( - ) 21:28, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Don't call others that... Nigos (talk · contribs) 09:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

did you ever made that project page about grp?

i want to link exam to it. Laptop Fizz (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

I haven't done it, yet -- kind of on the fence, between WP:DENY and being able to alert other people to what this person's problem is. Antandrus (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
if you want to honor WP:DENY why do you keep leaving messages on his talk page then? either way, i think the project page is important for other editors to know. Laptop Fizz (talk) 00:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
You are correct: I need to stop doing that. I keep saying I will, ... it's just so damn tempting. So.... I will stop stop stop stop. :) Antandrus (talk) 01:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Antandrus: so did you make up your mind about it? if not, i'm probably going to makeit. Computer Fizz (talk) 22:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I've been hedging. Probably should write it up, since he's clearly not stopping. notice who deleted it in 2006. But a lot of time has gone by. It should be worded carefully, with advice for how to handle this, ... person. Antandrus (talk) 23:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Ooh i see even jimbo has gotten involved with this nonsensery. Well i have been needing to link at certain places, so hopefully it could be sometime within the next week please? it'd also be good to use the talk page for such discussion about grp. Computer Fizz (talk) 23:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Yup, I think it's time. Talking about it now here. I think in the cases where we have a truly volcanic spew of fuckwittery we need a central place we can link. Antandrus (talk) 00:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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Can it be on the simple english wikipedia? Computer Fizz (talk) 02:32, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Don't know -- are there LTA pages here? I just started a draft in my userspace on en. I'm going to need to link to it from all over Wikimedia, so I'd rather keep it on a project where I'm an administrator. But I would think you could copy it over. Antandrus (talk) 02:45, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I would strongly suggest that ignoring is the best policy, the more time and effort we spend the better it is for him, having a page about his actions is just a trophy. Simply delete, and block on sight.--Peterdownunder (talk) 05:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
There aren't currently LTA pages here. But if there's enough of a reason for it, maybe it's time to makesome. simple won't stay small forever.
And about thatpeter, while RBI is a good strategy forinteraction with him, there's gotta be a reason en makesthem. I disagree it's a bad idea to make it, I've needed to postit several times. Computer Fizz (talk) 06:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
User:Vermont/Reports. Steriev isn't on there for DENY reasons. Vermont (talk) 11:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Personally I find making them usually causes the editors to end up doing more vandalism. GRP is a bit of a different case as he is nutty. But in general prior to Vermont creating pages we generally didn't create them here because we found doing so caused the editors to stick around and vandalize more here whereas if we just RBI'd they would return to the en.wiki and focus on that. -DJSasso (talk) 11:23, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Good points, everybody. Thanks. Holding off for now. Antandrus (talk) 13:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

WIKInger

Are they an LTA, or is it just a trick by Wikinger? Nigos (talk · contribs) 06:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I know what you mean - Wikinger is this guy. He lives in Poland; he's the one who vandalizes Jimbo's pages and babbles about Greek letters. But he also pretends to be the George Reeves guy. GRP (George Reeves guy, Projects, George, Ljupco, Gogi, Jan, all the other things he calls himself and we call him) lives in the US, and seems to think that we are trolling him with all the Wikinger copycatting. Antandrus (talk) 13:40, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I meant that there’s an account on the German Wikipedia called WIKInger, and Wikinger keeps on linking their user page when they (Wikinger) tries to annoy us. Nigos (talk · contribs) 22:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Oh! I don't know. Doesn't really look like him, e.g. this stuff. Antandrus (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Ok. But is the guy spamming us on the German Wikipedia (on your talk page) also him? They tried to annoy me by putting racist words on my (already) user page there. Is it also him? Nigos (talk · contribs) 12:31, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
That is Wikinger - quite sure. Antandrus (talk) 13:49, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Ok. Nigos (talk · contribs) 00:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
He reverted his own edit for some reason and antandrus just added a new line? Computer Fizz (talk) 20:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
I didn't want him to have the most recent edit - then everyone wastes their time investigating - adding a useless space is the easiest way to make a null edit that I know. Antandrus (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Come to think of it, that's a good feature request for Mediawiki - allow rollback to leave a null edit in such cases. Antandrus (talk) 20:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

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yea sometimes i end up screaming ARG WHY I CANT ROLLBACK THIS EDIT and oh , it's null. although i do wonder if there'd be like 30 nulls stacked up on top of each other. Computer Fizz (talk) 20:34, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

can i nominate you for admin

you need it Computer Fizz (talk) 20:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I would need to do more actual work here, rather than just vandalism reverts .. but thanks.
If I start doing some serious article work, then I'd probably take you up on that :) Antandrus (talk) 20:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
I kinda disagree because vandalism damage control is kind of an admin's main job...but I guess you're the target so I can't really argue on that. let me know if you change your mind though Computer Fizz (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Privacy violations

It seems that GRP is now publishing your emails... What do you want to do? Nigos (talk · contribs) 04:55, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

...with alterations. Doesn't bother me. (I haven't sent all that many.) Wanted to see if I could get him to talk to me, privately. The aim is to get him to stop, of course. Antandrus (talk) 05:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Illegaliraqwar

That’s GRP... Using his account on some other wiki, he said that he hated it. Nigos (talk · contribs) 23:33, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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