User talk:Eptalon/Archive 21

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Nigos in topic Block of

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This is w:WP:LTA/Wikinger; no point in not indeffing. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:51, 25 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

User reported to stewards anyway. Darubrub (Let me know) 12:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's still useful to know that this pattern belongs to an LTA, and revoking TPA (which is useful) without indeffing isn't that common either... but in the end, I guess you're right. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:54, 25 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Christopher Plummer question

Hey Eptalon! I was fixing up Christopher Plummer's article for a VGA nomination, but something tells me it might be better as a GA. I'm not sure which one would be more suitable and I was wondering if you can help me by giving your opinions on it. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

When I look at what I did, it was mostly GA-related. GA's are easier to do, they are less work (main thing about VGAs is completeness; also I think the last demotion from VGA I did was because of red-links in some template). But if I look at the whole thing, I have been the only one promoting/demoting articles recently. Whats what "community" stands for. As to the article: I didn't have a through looks: Looks fairly redlink free, sections look like they have a decent length. SO try either. BTW: I really want to add comments about the VGA nominations. I really think we have interesting proposals in the queue for both. --Eptalon (talk) 22:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Eptalon: Thank you! I'm aiming for VGA to add more variety and more articles but I don't want to risk a VGA nomination that'll end in rejection whereas that energy could have gone towards a GA nom. I feel my Jackie Kennedy nom might be getting close to promotion, but my Jimmy Carter nom needs more feedback I think. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)Reply



Can you readd the Azerbaijani flag in the article tricolour, because it was delibaretly removed. There are three types of tricolour flags that represent the horizontal, vertical and diagonal types - with this flag representing the horizontal example of a tricolour.

Yours sincerely, Multituberculata (talk) 20:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

It has been resolved. Multituberculata (talk) 20:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Unregistered user:

Hello Eptalon! I was wondering if you could block Unregistered user due to their persistent vandalism on Abella Danger (seriously look that the page's history). They have been warned multiple times. Thank you! Update Also they vandalized my user talk page. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

That's a WMF banned user. He's been to jail before for stuff like this SHB2000 (talk) 04:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

IP hopping LTA

You might want to read w:en:WP:LTA/GRP for who he is. SHB2000 (talk) 05:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the information, if this one really is GRP. Note though: My primary interest is protecxting this Wiki, I am less interested in the personal stories of people. And yes, I think normal people who vandalize, and get blocked once or twice usually stop or change their behaviour; continuing the behaviour despite takes a mindset of its own.--Eptalon (talk) 05:29, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Main page stuff

Hi Eptalon! I opened the main page and, under "Selected article" saw a redlink for Main Page/Article 25. It seems that page and the page it formerly redirected to were deleted; where in the main page syntax do we update that? Best, Vermont (talk) 00:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) If I'm reading this right, you don't change this on the Main page itself. All you'd have to do is move Main Page/Article 28 to Main Page/Article 25, suppressing redirect, and it'll fix the order. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 00:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
For the record, I believe this is fixed now (though I don't mind someone else double checking to make sure everything is fine, of course). Hiàn (talk) 19:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Devlaism page

Hello, i see you deleted the page Devlaisim. You should know, I didn't want that this page are deleted, but the User@Fixing26 nominated it for Quick deletion A4. That's why I was forced to blank the page. This Article, was an interesting contribution about the culture of the roma people. I was horrified that this page was suggested to be Quick deletion.

It gives me the impression that certain people are undesirable here...isnt it?

--Nalanidil (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

No, we do not exclude people based on where they are from, how they look or what they believe. I have therefore restored the page, and put it up for deletion. Thank you for noticing. --Eptalon (talk) 14:31, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hey Eptalon - So I got a lot of errors off of the article African Americans, however, there is still an issue causing it to come up in CS1 Maintenance. This is the section and the error is for [:Category:CS1_maint:_extra_text:_authors_list]. I cannot seem to find it and my eyes are going buggy after staring at it. The section I linked is where the error is at based on preview it shows it at the bottom. If you could point out to me what I missed, I would appreciate it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 21:51, 6 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) @PotsdamLamb: You could try isolating each citation template to see which one(s) give the error. I'd do it myself if I weren't on a tablet at the moment. Aside from that, the only thing I see is that maybe the author parameters are supposed to be for actual people's names, not for "Editors of"-type authorship. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:05, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
That’s what I was thinking too, but when I took them out I still got it. I’ll work on it again here shortly. For the history ones they don’t give author names, so can this be left blank? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:17, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Auntof6 I took out all of the ones with editor (i.e.,, and now it is gone. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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i see, the page is deleted yet,, only one user was against the page and he have won.

--Nalanidil (talk) 14:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I am sorry to see that another admin deleted the page. I have to say though that proposing a page for deltion that is a contested quick-deletion is stanard procedure. This is an encyclopedia, it is not about winning or losing an argument. Also note that we don't have article ownership. I have probably created several articles in my time here. None of them "belongs to me". I may feel responsible for some, but again, I try to create an encyclopedia. Part of this process is to find that certain subjects do not (yet?) meet the requiremnts we have for inclusion. I am very sorry that you lost your work, but it wasn't my decision to delete. Lets look ahead...--Eptalon (talk) 18:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @Eptalon, I still don't understand what exactly was the reason why one user was so against my article. Well, I'd better not write any more articles at all.

--Nalanidil (talk) 21:54, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I can't and wont change your decision; I would just like to point out that we had a similar issue recently, with LGBT-related topics. People from that community felt underrepresented, and now we do have a number of those terms as well (and yes, some were up for deletion, and have een deleted or reirected since then). --Eptalon (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Eptalon, Well, this user seems to dislike a lot of articles here, and seems to have fun suggesting every article that does not suit him for deletion. Probably inferior complexes??? A lobby of users has formed here, who has nothing else to do, to suggest deleting articles that they do not like because they are probably ignorant of the topic. What else do these users contribute?

--Nalanidil (talk) 14:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)Reply


Can you indef semi protect? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

AC Error

Hey - I’m pretty sure I’ve figured this out but I wanted to run it by you first to see if I’m correct or not. On the page John Everett Millais there are piped items added onto the AC. When I pull up the preview it tells me which ones they are and that they should be moved to WikiData. So I’m thinking I just need to cut and paste those items into the appropriate Q whatever number for him and remove them from the article itself and that should clear that out. In the cat itself there are a few and I can get those fixed pretty fast if that is indeed the fix. Thanks for any assistance you can help with as always! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 22:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Apropos of nothing in particular...

Reading Fra Angelico, I did like this treasure. After saying "The convent had a very wealthy "patron of the arts" called Cosimo de' Medici who loved to buy works of art for himself and his favourite churches".

The editor then says "Cosimo took the largest of the friars' rooms, called cells, at the convent so that he could have a quiet place for religious thought". (!!)

Perish the thought that it might be because he was a rich & powerful bastard...

Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:48, 28 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

As far as I can tell, art has always been driven by rich / powerful people. Looking at the article though: its original creator must have a background in arts and music. As it says, one of the better pieces of work created on this wiki. --Eptalon (talk) 16:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

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I saw you created Alimony. You might want to check "what links here." Hee hee hee. A little fleshing out, a little gender context, and that could be one fine contest entry. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:44, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

pssssssst (I beat dark frog in length here haha)

Gas lighting is an article that's been repeatedly created and is just spamming. Might be a good idea to SemiProtect it. Ely - Talk 18:05, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

redirected, we already have an entry, but as one word...--Eptalon (talk) 20:11, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi Eptalon, why did you revert my edit on Germination? The edit I reverted seemed like vandalism to me… Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 10:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

it was a misclick on my mobile phone...-Eptalon (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hello dear @Eptalon wish you a great time, i have a question::: i have created a template for talk quotation, but later on i realized that we have a similar template, the problem is i created a redirection for my template it may causes the confusion for other users since both templates share almost the same name see (Talkquote) (Talk quote) Sakura emad (talk) 11:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done Problem solved. Sakura emad (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, could you please tell me, regarding the Interlingue article, whether I should keep the tables with pronouns and verbs in the main article or I just move them to the one regarding Interlingue grammar? --Caro de Segeda (talk) 07:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

If they are not yet in thegrammar article, they are certainly helpful there. As to whether to also have them in the main article, I don't know. Its certainly interesting to see how verbs and adverbs work in Interlingue. en:French_language has such tables in the Grammar section, our article doesn't. In the end, its your call.--Eptalon (talk) 08:51, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thank. Another question: regarding the history of the language. Do you think I should simplify the already existing text or maybe keep less information and move it to another one, or is it fine the way it is now? I still need to add the references but I am leaving that for now. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:02, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Without going into too much detail, it looks ok for now. As a quick tip: If you target the "Very good article", I'd first go for the good article. Looking at the process, I have promoted a few articles to good article status this year. The last promotion to VGA was in August 2020, a year ago. The last promotions to good article were in July 2021. --Eptalon (talk) 09:11, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I will add the references and then I will presented for ga. Thanks for your help and sorry for bothering you with this. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Don't worry about it, we really need more people participating in the community processes. I would really love to get new VGAs, but ven getting an article to GA level is a lot of work (just look at how many propositions sit in the proposal stage...)--Eptalon (talk) 09:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

My article

Hi, can I ask why you deleted my article even without setting any tags like speedy deletion or ...? and kept articles like Cash High?! please restore my article to add more references. ZEP55 (talk) 21:45, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I had the impression it wasn't notable, but I have restored the page, and we will run a regular RfD. This also means that likely it will no longer be me closing that request. Good luck...--Eptalon (talk) 22:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I don't understand

Dear Eptalon! I don't understand what you mean by "no context" in the last sentence in the RFD statement! Haoreima (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

If i read the page, I find the dates 1710-1780 (assumed to be Anno Domini, the count where we are currently at 2021). At the same time, I seem to find color images of the person (photography started in the late 19th century, IIRC, true color images are from the mid 20th century). --Eptalon (talk) 11:58, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Finding color images in other websites might be a spam and let's not relate that case with the existence of wikipedia article. I think so. What about you, sir? Haoreima (talk) 12:00, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I recheck it in Google. Now, I know what you mean! But India is a gigantic country where many people have similar names. Those photos might be of a person of 20th-21st century. Right! Haoreima (talk) 12:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Deleted article created again

Hello, i want to let you know that Mizanur Rahman Azhari was created again as Mizanur Rahman (Bangladeshi Islamic Preacher). It was deleted several times here and even on enwiki. You even SALT the article (enwiki also did the same). It probably quality as wp:SPEEDY. I'm not familiar with this wiki, i will leave it to you to decide. Thank you. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:47, 24 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for letting me know. The old discussion was at the start of the year, too long ago to simply QD this as "likely same as discussed". I started a regular request for deletion, let's see what the result is.--Eptalon (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Temporary protection request


The IP (likely the same person as is striking again and again in the same articles and also in other articles. User:Etoza has reported this IP in Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress for Block evasion, as I did before about this IP's vandalism. The IP will not stop with his/her disruptive edits and behavior. The most recent articles he vandalized on 23 September are Israel, Baklava, Pita, Republic of Artsakh, Kadaif and Dolma. The other articles he vandalizes with POV pushing: Flag, Tricolour, Doner kebab, Yogurt, Country, Azerbaijan, and Shambali, will very likely follow.

Nothing will stop and deter this IP, unless these articles and the IP are temporarily blocked for a much longer period.

Yours sincerely, Multituberculata (talk) 23:00, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Temporary protection request


User:My name is CJ who is the same IP who was warned numerous times and temporarily blocked a few times for vandalism by the administrators, is vandalizing the same articles in the same pattern under his/her new account which he/she opened on October 1, by erasing NPOV content, also sources, and is replacing them with nationalistic POV content. This person will continue with his/her disruptive edits, despite being warned and temporarily blocked as an IP user.

Nothing will stop and deter this person, unless these articles that are vandalized are temporarily protected and he/she is temporarily blocked for a much longer period.

Yours sincerely, Multituberculata (talk) 08:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Look at this user he is trying to hide the truth. My name is CJ (talk) 08:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

He deleted my reply My name is CJ (talk) 08:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Stop going around on other users talk page, it won’t get you anywhere and stop wiki hounding me My name is CJ (talk) 09:30, 5 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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WLW entries

I saw your comment saying you were disappointed in your WLW scores. Per the guys at Meta, you are allowed to continue to improve your entries through October. That is why I haven't named any winners yet. I made a note of it on the WLW talk page. Good luck! Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:03, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello Darkfrog24, thanks ofr getting back to me. When I picked the articles to submit, I chose ones that, in my view are important; I know that most cover controversial topics, or topics people usually don't talk about. I also do not believe in word lists, as they are too limiting, and in many cases, they do not allow to explain the subject well. Translating some of the pages took a long time, and was not an easy task. So, when you come up with a comment such as "English is too complex", when I spent days working on the formulations/translation, this does not motivate me. In the case of the article I flagged as "biased": The EnWP version of this was last edited half a year ago, and really reads like an ad; I also left a comment on the EnWP article TP (now a month ago), but I haven't seen any reaction, so far. No matter what the intent of the Edit-a-thon is: If a quick search doesn't reveal any viable sources, what am I to do? - I find the contest a nice idea, it obviously has its limitations. --Eptalon (talk) 10:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
You did indeed choose excellent topics. Anything else I could do for you? I could show you the readability gizmo I was using to keep it non-subjective. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps one thing: re-look at all articles you refused (not just mine), once the time is up. And no, I wasn't criticizing you in particular, it is likely one of the weak points of the contest; and needs looking at, if this is ever evaluated or repeated. For my part, seeing the reaction, and given I have only very little time, I will likely spend only a little time trying to improve contest-related articles. I know that that certain indicators (such as sentence-length or word lists) are popular in judging readability, because they can be translated into an automated score easily. Texts such as this one however show that these relations may not be sufficient; we can talk about whether they are necessary.--Eptalon (talk) 13:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hello, Eptalon. You have a new email! Please check it at your convenience.
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

Please check your mail as soon as possible. Thank you. --Ferien (talk) 17:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello Ferien, thanks for your message. I think I got the issue addressed...--Eptalon (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Page to be deleted - Obvious advertising

Good morning,

I wanted to report the following page:

This is blatant advertising, the entry is not encyclopaedic and a user (Allensyllos) keeps removing the quick deletion request. The character on the page in question is self-promoting for his real estate business in Dubai, any source given is self-promotional. He is blatantly doing this to legitimise his position for promotional purposes.
Wiki-article about a different person:

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Previous either QD, or "delete thru RfD"?

Deleted title has now turned blue

Please see list above. (talk) 06:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Edited articles

Hey can you please show me your edited articles Mamolefi (talk) 17:52, 25 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean? - there are 60.000-odd of them? --Eptalon (talk) 17:55, 25 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Loves Women 2021

After careful consideration, it seems that third prize is a tie: You have won. Congratulations and thank you for bringing such fine articles to the Simple English Wikipedia! Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the nice words, it was really fun to contribute (also: At least for me, writing in a feminist perspective was a welcome change)--Eptalon (talk) 22:09, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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lol Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:59, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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DYK for Survival sex

--Ferien (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Marcus Terentius Varro

--Ferien (talk) 22:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Khaby Lame

Hey Eptalon, I think there were several claims in this article like being the "second most-followed TikToker" along with many reliable sources like CNN, NYT, and such at the bottom of the page.-BRP ever 06:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

WLWSA-2021 Newsletter #6 (Request to provide information)

Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021
September 1 - September 30, 2021 view details!

Thank you for participating in the Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 contest. Please fill out this form and help us to complete the next steps including awarding prizes and certificates.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out the organizing team via emailing @here or discuss on the Meta-wiki talk page

Wiki Loves Women Team
07:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Abuse filter

Hello Eptalon. When you're next free can you please hop onto IRC or email me about an abuse filter you created? There's an error I noticed that you may want to fix. You hid the contents of the abuse filter which is why I'm asking to discuss off-wiki. Thank you. --Ferien (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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DYK for Great Bitter Lake

--Ferien (talk) 20:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

One type of greeting that is permissable (or even expected) in a small part of Germany

Hi Eptalon! May I ask if you have heard of - and know the name - of the following local custom (or custom in a "smallish" region) in Germany: When workers and other busy people are having their lunch break (or equivalent), and a co-worker comes into the room, then he will not speak to the other co-workers but he will knock cirka two times on the table, whereby the persons who are sitting and eating - will knock on the table (as a reply).

(If you, Eptalon, are not sure, then I will probably ask on English-wiki. Comment: I have seen this greeting one time, among Germans (in a non-German country). The custom was explained to me as being from Germany - also with the comment that in most (or some) places in Germany - that greeting would be interpreted as barely tolerable, or not acceptable (because speaking to people is generally the preferred way of doing things). Regards! (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, no I donßt know of such a custom; but again, Germany is big--Eptalon (talk) 09:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Hi. I wonder what your thoughts are about renaming Docker to Docker (software) to be consistent with other wikis? It might make it easier to do interwiki links and to important information from other wikis to help with cleanup. What do you think? Blissyu2 (talk) 11:50, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

As disambiguation pages: There is en:Mitchell Docker, a cyclist born 1986, and the ominous dockworker; there are several places, a few sports teams, and a brand used for clothing. Renaming only makes sense when we have a disambiguation page; this means we need articles for at least two of the others. See en:Docker--Eptalon (talk) 12:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
The term "stevedore" is quite foreign to English usage. Because of the range of the old British Empire, the term "docker" is understood all over the eastern world as well. It is British English which was, and still is to some extent, used in most former colonial countries. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
This is simple English; I think a disambiguation page, perhaps with the Software, the dockworker, and one other entry is easy to create..--Eptalon (talk) 14:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
The fisambiguation page is now at Docker, this is consistent with EnWP. If you think it should look different, please adapt.--Eptalon (talk) 14:14, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I found a tool

I found this tool in my travels, and it reminded me of something you Elytrian said, but I might as well show it to you too:

Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Excuse me Sir, I have recently created the Article "Infobae" and it was eliminated by you, it is not logical that this page does not meet the notable criteria is one of the most important sites in Argentina. Julian Aristiqui (talk) 10:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Happy holidays

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Block of

Could you extend the block of, it's an open proxy used by George Reeves Person. Thanks, Nigos (talk | changes) 12:54, 25 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Congratulations, WINNER!

Eptalon, among what I hope were many happy accomplishments this year, you also tied for third in the Wiki Loves Women Edit-a-Thon!


Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 Barnstar
Hello Eptalon,
Thank you for your participation in 'Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021'. One or more of your submitted articles have been accepted in the contest. This barnstar is given to you as a reminder of appreciation for contributing to the acceleration of Wikipedia through writing articles at this event. We hope that your cooperation will continue in the future.

Stay wholesome and safe.
Local Organizer, Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021
20:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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