User talk:Juliancolton/Archive 2

Spam

Juliancolton, Thank you for taking part in my request for adminship, which closed as successful with 20 Supports and 1 Oppose. I will do my best for the project!
Barras (talk) 15:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Eh?

Lee County, Florida was missing a stub template. Please make sure to remember to stub your county pages in the future, as I believe it would cut down on the time that other editors need to spend adding stub templates to them :) {{US-stub}} is a good stub template to use for the counties in the United States :) Razorflame 20:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Shock horror. The inhumanity. Let's ban him. PeterSymonds (talk) 20:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

ROFL, lol... :D Razorflame 20:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

<joke> Support the ban </joke>. ;) Yotcmdr ^{=talk to the commander=} 20:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

<joke>  Done - indef :p </joke> Barras (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Endorse and no topic ban proposals please. :P American Eagle (talk) 21:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

How could I have done this?! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Challenge

Hi, I signed up for your challenge, when does it start? I'm sure we can get them all done in a month :p Yotcmdr ^{=talk to the commander=} 21:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Starts now. :D –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Not fair, RF gets a day head start... oh well I just have to get cracking tomorow :p Yotcmdr ^{=talk to the commander=} 21:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Not really. I'm only going to be on for a maximum of an hour or an hour and a half a day, so you'll have plenty of time. I was just about to get off, so :D Cheers, Razorflame 21:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Advice needed

Okay, so I recently found something to turn my wikignoming to, but stopped just as I started, as I'm not entirely sure.

I ran across Category:Retired tropical cyclone names while looking at your work on Hurricane Ismael. All of the articles there are sorted under "H", which doesn't really help much. So I started applying "defaultsort" so they'd go under their names... but that would also sort the articles in other, non-hurricane categories by their names, which may or may not be the desired effect.

So, the question to you: does the "hurricane" part of a storm name act as a proper noun, in so much that it should be sorted as such, or should I continue fixing the category sorting? Since you know more about tropical storms than I do (given your edits), I figured there was nobody better to ask. :) EVula // talk // 04:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Nah, what you were doing was fine. Though I've wasted a couple thousand edits cleaning up stuff like this, the category system here is still a bit messy... –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll get back on it.
Yeah, I've noticed the issues with categories. Maybe that'll be the next wikignome project for me. ;) EVula // talk // 04:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks for the help! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

...holy crap you weren't kidding. I'm sorting thru them right now, and there's some crazy inefficiencies in it all. Category:Social science and society templates and Category:Society and social science templates come to mind; the only difference between them is the fact that the words are reversed. *whimper* EVula // talk // 05:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Err, yeah. :( –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

House (TV Series)

Hi there. I would like to reach a resolution to this dispute without too much trouble, so can we talk about this peaceably? I believe that it should be lower case because, although it is a special branch of medicine, other than when it is referred to as a proper noun, I do not see a need for Diagnostic Medicine to be capitalized, as it does nothing to help the sentence out. If you can provide me with good evidence, I will drop this. Thanks for understanding, Razorflame 15:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not really a dispute, but alright...

I only reverted this edit; the rest were fine. In this case, the "Department of Diagnostic Medicine" is a proper name, and should thus be capitalized. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for providing a quick reply to this and for helping to help me understand the reason for your revert :) Cheers, Razorflame 15:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

My point

My point is that it helps to make the name of the section of the article easier to read. It does absolutely nothing to the article, so I really don't see what the problem is with the edit. Razorflame 15:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

How so? I'm sorry, but I still think you need to start spending time on making constructive changes, rather than adding unnecessary whitespace for the sake of it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

If you noticed, it did not change anything in the article. Furthermore, I do make constructive changes. To be accused of not making constructive changes is pure heresy. 6,000+ articles and I am accused of not making constructive changes? Razorflame 15:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

...yeah, if it does nothing to change the article, don't make the edit. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree Razor, one of the standard rules to follow is don't make edits that simply add whitespace, if you are going to make the cosmetic changes you are making, you need to make other substantial edits at the same time. -Djsasso (talk) 16:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

While I agree that cosmetic changes should not be the only reason for an edit, reverting a cosmetic change is even more pointless. EhJJ^TALK 16:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Disagree. Unnecessary spaces clutter up the edit window and, if abundant, lead to slower load times. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

This is going to look like a edit war. If you don't like an edit or think that someone is misusing it's bot(time) for unneeded changes tell it to the world and keep following user in every step it makes and ask it to rollback it bot changes. Carsrac (talk) 19:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK? issue

Hello! I have a concern that I would like for you to address, at the DYK? nomination page, for the article Levy County, Florida. I hope you find time to take a look. Thanks! CarpetCrawler^{message me} 19:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I also have an issue with your nomination of Hurricane Ismael, if you don't mind taking a look. :) CarpetCrawler^{message me} 19:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reviews. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Ismael

Some comments (hopefully useful ones!) await you... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Note

You've got a new message over at ENWP. Cheers! --Dylan620 ^{Review me} 20:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 20:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Good old Bambifan...

I just clicked on the new user log here at Simple instead of at English while logged in...and I saw the little darling is back. He's a plague at English as you know. Wish my admin privileges extended here (heck, I'm a bureaucrat at the Radio Control Wiki), but I guess I need to do some more editing. Anyway, take care and God bless for all your good work on two crazy wikis. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, he's a persistent fellow, unfortunately. 750 edits should get you through RfA here; it would be great to have you around! Regards, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

That's an understatement.  :) Yes, I'd love to help more around here. My goal is to sorta-kinda "transwiki" some of my originals from English and simplify them for over here. I may bring a few others over as well since there are a lot of glaring red links on some of what I've already transfered and rewritten. See you 'round and thanks for the kind words. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I see he was back as User:Ihateu. Aw, I thinkk we hurt his feelings.  :) I'll keep an eye out back at English. FYI, I'd put him up on the long term abuse page there and hoo boy, did he ever go off. Almost gotta feel sorry for the kid. Almost. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Bans, warnings

I know it is an admin's decision, but at en. (I'm not saying that we should follow en., but most of the policies here are based on those at en.) it takes at least 3 warnings to ban a user. That is what the warning system is all about. Warning 1, AGF, Warning 2, please stop, Warning 3, stop or you will get blocked, Warning 4, final warning. That warning system is used here also. Although, this is simple, and it is the admin's decision, the user was never given a final warning. While the user was a vandalism only account, even at en. the only times a user gets blocked quickly is when it is a sockpuppet. Just my opinion. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If an account is being used only for vandalism, it may be blocked on-sight. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

At en. the policies say always AGF, and don't chase away the newbies. 2 vandalism edits isn't a lot, and an indef ban is not AGF. While this user probably was a VOA, you should have AGF, even if all the evidence points toward a VOA. Just my opinion. Griffinofwales (talk) 04:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, en:WP:VOA says, "Vandalism-only accounts are usually blocked indefinitely, sometimes without warning." –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

AGF is often cited when it should not be. There are plenty of times to not assume good faith. EVula // talk // 04:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

From en:WP:NOOB, Remember Hanlon's Razor. Behavior that appears malicious to experienced Wikipedians is more likely due to ignorance of our expectations and rules. Even if you're 100% sure that someone is a worthless, no-good, internet troll, vandal, or worse, conduct yourself as if they are not. By being calm, interested, and respectful, you do credit to your dignity and to our project. and Avoid using blocks as a first resort. Consider talking to a user before you block them. I am a relatively new user (3 months) and I appreciate input on the interpretation of policy. Thank You. Griffinofwales (talk) 04:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of appearing malicious; it's blatant vandalism. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Read the third sentence. Griffinofwales (talk) 04:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The user already received one warning, and yet they continued to disrupt the project. At that point, it's impractical to even consider the possibility that they're going to turn around and become a productive editor. As EVula noted, AGF only goes so far. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Then why is there a 4 warning system? Should it just be a 1 or 2 warning system, and then a block? Griffinofwales (talk) 04:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a matter of admin discretion. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it a matter of user discretion also? Admins should follow the same rules that normal users follow in warning users. If I reported somebody at en.'s AIV and they only had a lvl 1 warning, I would be denied by any admin immediately even if they had vandalized twice after the warning (A lvl 1 warning isn't really a warning anyways). Griffinofwales (talk) 04:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Simple solution: don't start with a level 1 warning. :) Seriously, I very rarely start with level one; I usually start with level 2, or maybe 3 if it's really bad. EVula // talk // 04:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

My personal opinion, which is far less civil than Julian's response: there are four levels because some people don't have the balls to make actual judgement calls. Coddling vandals is far more disruptive to the encyclopedia than dealing with them in a direct, specific, and efficient manner. EVula // talk // 04:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

That works. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Even Huggle relies on a 4 warning system, and Huggle was made specifically for fighting vandals. I haven't explored Huggle's inner workings but I don't think you can leave the order (i.e. give a lvl 4 warning if lvl 1-3 warnings have not been issued). Huggle is only available to rollbackers and admins, so why doesn't Huggle have an option for reporting a vandal to AIV after one warning. A question: Can this argument be applied at en., because simple is very different from en.?Griffinofwales (talk) 04:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Huggle does indeed have an option to report vandals prematurely (for lack of a better word). And yes, vandalism-only-accounts here are the same as vandalism-only-accounts at enwiki. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OK Thank you for clarifying and sorry for bothering you. However, EVula made a comment that I want your (Juliancolton's) opinion on. That is, skipping a lvl 1 warning. The lvl 1 warning is a type of welcome warning. When I first created an account here, I blanked a talk page, which to some would seem like vandalism. I thought it made sense, because the issue had been resolved. I received a lvl 1 warning for it, and I continued to edit Wikipedia because of that. If I had received a Lvl 3 warning, I might have discontinued. According to en:WP:Noob we should not bite the newcomers (although EVula thinks they are quite tasty). The question is, Should I use EVula's suggestions when I am fighting vandalism? Some may view that as biting newbies, some may see it as fighting VOAs. Your opinion please (and make it quick, I have to leave soon). Griffinofwales (talk) 05:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It depends. Blanking a talk page doesn't necessarily indicate a malicious intent. However, when somebody blanks an article with "poop", you can skip level 1. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Can I report someone to AIV (here or at en.) after a warning (Lvl 1 or 2) if they have vandalized 2 pages? Griffinofwales (talk) 05:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It depends on the severity of the vandalism. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

A situation like the one that started this thread. I warn a user with a lvl 1 or 2 warning about vandalism, the user edits twice after the warning, and I catch it after the 2nd edit (the 2nd edit after the warning). If I send a report to AIV will they accept it? In this example, each case is of blatant vandalism. Griffinofwales (talk) 05:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a matter of admin discretion. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

From now on, I will go to you when I find a vandal (or EVula). Be back in 8-10 hours. Griffinofwales (talk) 05:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to say, I object to the assessment that I bite newbies ("EVula thinks [newcomers] are quite tasty"). I bite vandals. There is a huge difference between the two, and the ability to discern that difference is something that comes with experience (which I feel comfortable saying I have, with a bit over two and a half years of being an admin on enwiki, as well as sysops elsewhere). EVula // talk // 06:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

"Assume good faith, but not when it would be utterly stupid to do so". I spy an essay coming up. — neuro^(talk) 12:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, you bite vandals, I agree (but they are newbies [even if they are vandals]). From now on (since I'm not an admin, and I do not intend to become one [until I get a lot more experience]) I will send vandals to EVula and you (Juliancolton). I have been at AIV and not everybody agrees with your viewpoint. So, this is the criteria I would follow. If the user has a warning (any type) concerning blatant vandalism, and the user has vandalized again, I request a block (indef?) and that ends my involvement. Correct? Griffinofwales (talk) 16:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

There's no hard-and-fast rule; it's all a matter of admin discretion, as I've explained above. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I know that. But both of you (EVula) agree that vandals are bad and that what I proposed above is what you would have done (because you did it). I would not send reports to AIV because they might be denied. I would send them to you personally (or you could assemble a list of people willing to grant AIV requests of this nature and I would send it to them instead). It keeps vandals out of Wikipedia! What you are saying is that rollbackers/users have to follow different rules when they request a block. While I see the logic in that, it keeps more vandals in Wikipedia. So, what do you think (and don't say it is at an admin's discretion [I know that!])? Griffinofwales (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Users and rollbackers can't block people. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

They also don't have to wait for 3 or 4 warnings...they can report if they think its bad enough to warrant an immediate block. -Djsasso (talk) 16:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I know they can't block people, that is why I said 'request a block'. The problem is some admins (at en.) probably would deny my request for a block because of insufficient warnings. Even, if they did accept my request, would they indef block after one lvl 1 warning and 3 edits by the user? Griffinofwales (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll say it again: it's a matter of admin discretion. There is no rule. It all depends on which admin reviews the report. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, the request might be denied at AIV. If I sent you the vandalism report, would you indef block the user? That's all I want to know. I don't like vandals any more than you do, so I want to know whether you are willing to block them. Griffinofwales (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It depends on the situation. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Situation: Lvl 1 or 2 warning is given for blatant vandalism, user vandalizes again. Now, could you please answer the question? Griffinofwales (talk) 16:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

There is no answer. It all depends on the situation. It depends on the severity of the vandalism. It depends on which article they vandalized. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

This thread is becoming very annoying for everybody. If I had reported the user that started this thread (i.e. the example above, user vandalized 3 pages), would you have banned the user indef? That is all I want to know. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I blocked the user in question, so the answer is pretty obvious, no? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I was checking whether your response to a vandal reported by someone else would be different than if you had spotted them. So, 3 cases of blatant vandalism should be enough to have a user banned indef because that is enough proof that a user is a VOA. Please do not use the above excuse about severity, type of article, etc. According to you, VOAs should be banned. Correct? Griffinofwales (talk) 17:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Not according to me, no. It's standard practice. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If it's standard practice, then why above did you tell me that it is an admin's discretion. Is it possible for me to send a VOA (like the one you banned) to AIV and have it banned? In other words, do all admins agree with you (at en)? That is the question. Griffinofwales (talk) 17:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

No, some admins prefer to issue all four warnings. I can't tell you what other admins will do; I can't read minds. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

So it's not standard practice. You said that policy said that VOAs should be banned on-sight. So, you are contradicting yourself. You said that AIV would ban them because it is standard practice, then I asked whether all admins would ban them (because policy said that they should) and you said no. So, does that mean that admins do not follow policy? Griffinofwales (talk) 17:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not contradicting myself, so I'll try again: It's a matter of admin discretion. VOAs are often blocked on-sight, and it is common practice to do so. Some admins prefer to issue all four warnings. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If I want a VOA banned quickly (4 minutes have passed since beginning of editing [using example from earlier]) I go to you, correct? Griffinofwales (talk) 17:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to, no. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Report vandals in the place you report vandals; going directly to a sysop for every single one won't be helpful (especially if the sysop isn't active at the moment). EVula // talk // 17:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Julian already touched on most of your comment, but I'll answer the rest of it: no, admins do not always follow policy exactly. They're human; it can be either ignorance of what policy is, or perhaps they're relying on AGF too much, or something else. Sysops aren't perfect. EVula // talk // 17:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, I know they are not perfect, but what I want to know is when should I report vandals to AIV (en)? Here at simple, It would be almost immediately because the size of this project allows for quick resolution with minimal complaints (just look at every RFA we have). But at en. (as both of you know) it's different. Griffinofwales (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

This isn't the place to discuss that. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, that's true. We have clarified everything. Should I create a new thread at your talk page in en.? Griffinofwales (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe that's necessary. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think a new thread is necessary either, but if you feel you must, feel free to use my talk page (to give Julian a break from the constant orange bar); I've got enough talk page stalkers that there'd be some fresh perspectives. :) EVula // talk // 17:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

At en.? Griffinofwales (talk) 17:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. en:User talk:EVula. EVula // talk // 18:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

inappropriate contributions

Tell me, when was my last inappropriate contribution?--AleksA ツ 23:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Well there was this today. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

And this. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

And this?

And one more thing: with that template: I think does not work:

Thank you for trying things out on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it is now gone. Please use the sandbox if you want to do any more test changes, and see the welcome page if you want to learn about helping Simple English Wikipedia. Thank you. --AleksA ツ 23:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

It does work when you use it properly. Majorly talk 23:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• Wow, why can't anyone just explain it to him? Aleksa Lukic: in order for the template to work, it muust be substituted:. :) To you all, Aleksa did nothing in bad faith and shouldn't be treated this poorly. American Eagle (talk) 00:26, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• He's not being treated poorly; he simply can't be trusted with rollback at the moment. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not refering to only this. Also, saying "it works if you'd do it right" (paraphrase) is bite-y at best. American Eagle (talk) 01:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• That's not bite-y or uncivil at all. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:24, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I would disagree that it is not bite-y, but I would agree that it is not uncivil. It is not uncivil, but it is unhelpful. If the user does not know how to substitute things, Majorly, I would highly recommend you explain it to him how to make it work, not just say you don't use it properly. Razorflame 01:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

question about user talk pages

First, thanks for putting up with all my questions above. Second, I have a question about user talk pages. Can a user (IP or not) remove warnings (not blocks) from his user page, and can he remove them and replace them with FUCK YOU, etc.? Thanks. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

It's alright if they simply remove warnings/block notices, but if they replace it with an obscenity, I usually revert and block their talk page access. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

What if they are currently not blocked? Can they be blocked or warned for such behavior? Griffinofwales (talk) 01:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Leave me alone

Enough said :)

Seddon (talk) 01:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Can you take a look at the current noms at T:TDYK. We just need one more to make five (Perhaps you could review my hook as well). Pmlinediter  ^Talk 15:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

 Done –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Will the main page DYK section now be updated? J. B. A. (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Patience! The section will be updated tomorrow at the earliest, we try to give hooks a good amount of air time without them becoming stale, and so that we can build up another update full of hooks. It will more likely be Saturday though, as 10 days seems like a good date, not too long, not too short ;). Regards, Goblin 16:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

VGA

Yay!! Well done you! You only need to get one DYK to pass nom and you get the trifecta! :-) fr33kman ^talk 21:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

;) Meetare Shappy ^Cunkelfratz! 21:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Forgot Yot had a thingy going! Will have to work on it for myself now too :) fr33kman ^talk 21:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Heh, thanks folks! :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with 21 Support and 1 Oppose. I hope I will be able to fulfill your trust as an admin on Simple. Special thanks to RyanCross for nominating me! --Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz!

What the heck is it going to take, Julian?

I tell you, that Bambifan kid has become the single biggest pain outside of some of the coordinated attacks. I'm helpless over here to do much beyond blow the whistle, but so help me, I am going to blow that whistle every time after that stunt he pulled. He's clearly unhinged. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

These might help, eh? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

LOL!! I can dig it. Blocked another one, I see. I and two other users had a heck of a good time yesterday making him the butt of a joke based on the talk page of one of his socks. Didn't go over too well, but it was fun while it lasted. I'll head over to EN and see if he's thinking about doing his particular brand of genuine insanity over there. Might be time for his very own LTA page at this juncture. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Confirmation

–Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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Question.

Hello,

What is the purpose of having two versions of the English Wikipedia?--Gordonrox24 (talk) 19:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Julian, but I think I can answer this: the Simple English Wikipedia's purpose is to provide an encyclopedia in very simple, easily understood English, targeted (primarily) at children and people for whom English is not their primary language. We sometimes hit that goal, and sometimes we don't. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep, what he said. Thanks EVula. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia has 59,000 articles! Color blindness has been promoted to Good Article status. Bloc Party has been promoted to Very Good Article status. Tropical Storm Barry (2007) has been promoted to Very Good Article status. Hurricane Ismael has been promoted to Good Article status. France has been demoted to regular article status. Mouthpiece (brass) has been demoted to regular article status. Cuban Missile Crisis has been demoted to regular article status. Wijerd Jelckama is currently at Proposed Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Hermann Göring, Ludwig van Beethoven and Linux are currently at Proposed Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. There is an ongoing discussion about the introduction of Very Good Lists - your comments are welcomed. DYK is getting back up to speed with several contributions waiting for the Main Page. Please continue to show your support by reviewing and nomination hooks. There is an ongoing discussion about the introduction of an Arbitration Committee - your comments are welcomed. User Articles Yotcmdr - Article 7 For his seventh article, Yotcmdr speaks about Kennedy, (V)GAs and DYK.. Microchip08 - Article 1 For his first aticle, MC8 speaks about various things. EhJJ - Article 2 For his second article, EhJJ talks about the new CC-BY-SA dual license A Wikipedia Song	[Subscribe] [Archives] [Discussion] [The Team]	Congratulations, EhJJ for passing a request for adminship! Commiserations go to Djsasso who was unsuccessful in his request for bureaucratship. Congratulations, Barras for passing a request for adminship! Congratulations, Mentifisto for passing a request for adminship! Congratulations, EVula for passing a request for adminship! Congratulations, Shappy for passing a request for adminship! Billz is currently up for deadminshp because of tool inactivity. Good luck to NonvocalScream who is having a request for adminship! QandA The QandA. Every month, Kennedy interviewed one of the Simple English Wikipedia's editors, asking them about themselves, and their opinions on Wikipedia. It was an exciting insight behind the anonymous face of an online username. Unfortunately, Kennedy has left us, and will obviously not be doing the QandA. Bluegoblin7 has taken it over. This weeks interview is with Juliancolton. Click here for Juliancolton's interview! The Commander's Choice The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list: Spoon Screwdriver Glass Swine Flu AC/DC

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Simple News Issue 8

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Issue 8 - 22th June 2009 69,053 editors, 59,757 articles, 144,395 pages.
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Earth and Ludwig van Beethoven are currently at Proposed Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Hermann Göring is currently at Proposed Very Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. User Articles Yotcmdr - Article 8 For his eighth Simple News article, Yotcmdr talks about starting collaborative teams over the Summer. Shappy - Article 3 Shappy makes a short statement about the summer and its ample opportunity for writing articles at the Simple English Wikipedia in his third article. Bluegoblin7 - Article 5 In Article No. 5, Bluegoblin7 looks back over what 2009 has brought so far, and then looks to the future as to what still could come. Pmlinediter - Article 1 DYK, P(V)GA and more are the subject of Pmlinediter's debut article.	[Subscribe] [Issues] [Discussion] [The Team]	Congratulations, NonvocalScream for passing a request for adminship! Billz has had his administrator tools removed because of tool inactivity. Congratulations, Mercy for passing a request for adminship! QandA The QandA. Every month, a user will be interviewed by a member of the Simple News team. This idea was started by Kennedy and interviews have since been made by Bluegoblin7, Yotcmdr and Shappy This weeks interview is with Majorly. Click here for Majorly's interview! The Commander's Choice The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list: Glue Paper Elephant Video Book

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Simple News Edition 9

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Issue 9 - 18th April 2024 1,436,366 editors, 250,589 articles, 816,813 pages.
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Wernher von Braun, London Underground 1967 Stock, Ludwig van Beethoven and Earth are at Proposed Good Articles Hurricane Ismael and Germany are at Proposed Very Good Articles Wikipedia now has 53,746 articles owing to the deletion of over 6,000 articles. User Articles Yotcmdr - Article 9 For his ninth Simple News article, Yotcmdr talks about BG7, a new Wikiproject and some new sections on Simple News including a story. Pmlinediter - Article 2 For his second article, Pmlinediter talks about stubs, mass deletion and Gobby. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Holiday_Green_Day_cover.ogg Swine Flu update As of Friday 3rd July 2009 89,922 cases of Swine Flu have been confirmed. 383 People have now died from it.	[Subscribe] [Archives] [Discussion] [The Team]	Congratulations, Philosopher for passing a request for adminship! Commiserations go to Comppro whose request for adminiship was closed per WP:SNOW. Bluegoblin7 stepped down from adminship. QandA The QandA. Every month, a user will be interviewed by a member of the Simple News team. This idea was started by Kennedy and interviews have since been made by Bluegoblin7, Yotcmdr and Shappy This weeks interview is with Pmlinediter. Click here for Pmlinediter's interview! The Commander's Choice The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list: Aluminum Telephone Carrot Opera France The News in Brief Main Stories: Pop star Michael Jackson died due to a cardiac arrest. A Yemenia airliner crashed in the Indian Ocean on 30 June. There was only one survivor. The Organization of American States has suspended Honduras in protest after it ousted President Manuel Zelaya. Heavy rain in China and Vietnam has forced more than 300,000 people to leave their homes. The African Union's decision not to help arrest Sudan's president will not stop the International Criminal Court. Click here to see the sport stories Click here to see the Entertainement stories

Yotcmdr ^{=talk to the commander=} 08:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

RfB

Good luck with the Rfb.

I thought you were > 20 yr old; but you're younger than me :-O --PirateSmackK (talk) 17:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:38, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Flood flag

You're starting to flood the RC. If you could use the flood flag please? Thanks. Exert 01:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Done already. Sorry for the flood. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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Announcements Ludwig van Beethoven has been promoted to Good Article status. The Simple English Wikipedia now has 54,000 articles, with the creation of Cross-City Line by Pmlinediter. Wernher von Braun has been promoted to Good Article status. Adolf Hitler, Italy and British Rail Class 117 are currently at Proposed Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Jupiter and Victoria line are currently at Proposed Very Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Pope John Paul II is up for demotion from Very Good Article status - your comments are welcomed. User Articles Pmlinediter - Article 3 Did you know and Stubs are the topic of Pmlinediter's third Simple News article. Shappy - Article 4 In his fourth article, Shappy talks about Oversight at the Simple English Wikipedia. Yotcmdr - Article 10 Yotcmdr's tenth Simple News article focusses on Stubs, Simple News and Good Articles. Administrator News NonvocalScream had a request for deadminshp, but it was closed per WP:SNOW. Good luck to Fr33kman who is having a request for bureaucratship! Good luck to Bluegoblin7 who is having a request for adminship!		Swine Flu update As of Sunday 19th July 2009 137,258 cases of Swine Flu have been confirmed. 779 people have now died from it. QandA The QandA. Every month, a user will be interviewed by a member of the Simple News team. This idea was started by Kennedy. Interviews are generally taking by a member of the Simple News Team - to date this has included Bluegoblin7, Kennedy, Pmlinediter, Shappy and Yotcmdr. This weeks interview is with Chenzw. Click here for Chenzw's interview! The Commander's Choice The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list: McFly Blood Tour de France Electricity Apricot The News in Brief Main Stories: Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins think that the USA should concentrate on going to Mars instead of the Moon. The US Army is going to increase its size by 22,000 soldiers for the next three years. Click here to see the Sport stories

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GoblinBot3 (talk) 12:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

My RfB

Juliancolton, Thank you for taking part in my request for bureaucratship, which closed as successful.
I promise to do my best and justify the trust the community has placed in me!
fr33kman ^talk 20:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

bad username

This user needs to be blocked. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Blocked by NVS. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Return

I will be back to en in december [1] PirateSmackK (talk) 04:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

RFB

Have you considered a bid for cratship? NonvocalScream (talk) 04:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey Scream, thanks for the offer. The crat tools would come in handy here and there, but 1) we've had two new promotions in the past month, and 2) I just failed enwiki RfB a few weeks ago. Wouldn't want to look power hungry. :) I'll certainly consider it in the future, however. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok... consider this a standing offer. Best, NonvocalScream (talk) 04:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Question.

Hey, just wondering If this edit should be undone. It is graphic, but WP isn't censored after all.--Gordonrox24 (talk) 02:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

 Done never mind. Thanks anyways.--Gordonrox24 (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

question

If a user reverts some vandalism but does not warn the user, can another user warn the user? The upside is that the user would be warned but the downside is that the user might be warned twice. Since you're experienced at this (over 200 users voted for you at your RfB[enWP]), I thought you would know. Griffinofwales (talk) 05:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

As long as the user is warned, it does really matter who does it. fr33kman ^talk 05:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

How long should a user wait for the reverter to warn the user? Griffinofwales (talk) 05:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I disagree Fr33kman, warning should be left to the user who did the revert, as they know exactly why they reverted it. Also, I find warning a user who vandalizes once pointless, if they vandalized more than once they should be warned. Exert 07:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I often don't warn on purpose. -Djsasso (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I will go with Exert's comments, unless others have comments. Griffinofwales (talk) 00:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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Announcements Adolf Hitler has been promoted to Good Article status. Earth is currently at Proposed Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Victoria line is currently at Proposed Very Good Articles - your comments are welcomed. Pope John Paul II has been demoted to normal article status. User Articles Pmlinediter - Article 4 In his fourth article, Pmlinediter talks about Oversight, DYK and more Administrator News Commiserations to... Purplebackpack89 whose request for adminship was closed per WP:SNOW. Parker1297 whose request for adminship was closed per WP:SNOW. Bluegoblin7 whose request for adminship was unsuccessful. Congratulations to... Fr33kman whose request for bureaucratship was successful. Djsasso whose request for bureaucratship was successful. Good luck to... Fr33kman who is having a request for checkusership! NonvocalScream who is having a request for checkusership!		Swine Flu update As of Sunday 3th August 2009 188,139 cases of Swine Flu have been confirmed. 1265 people have now died from it. QandA The QandA. Every month, a user will be interviewed by a member of the Simple News team. This idea was started by Kennedy. Interviews are generally taking by a member of the Simple News Team - to date this has included Bluegoblin7, Kennedy, Pmlinediter, Shappy and Yotcmdr. This weeks interview is with Barras. Click here for Barras' interview! The Commander's Choice The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. This time Pmlinediter is selecting the articles. Here is this edition's list: Oxygen Michael Jackson Sport Confucius Food The News in Brief Main Stories: The longest solar eclipse of the 21st century was seen on 22nd July 2009. Sarah Palin resigned as Governor of Alaska on 26th July. The new governor is Sean Parnell. Click here for the Sports stories!

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Pmlineditor 10:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Tropical Depression One (2009)

I have replied to your comments. —§ Snake311 _{(I'm Not Okay!)} 00:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

If there is no more unsimple parts in the article, I will remove it. Also I have responded to your comments. —§ Snake311 _{(I'm Not Okay!)} 15:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

We've only dealt with the lead yet. I'll post some more comments in a bit. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 15:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

confirmation

–Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Did I miss something? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I just feel I've lost my perspective a bit, so I'd like to spend some time as a regular editor. I'll likely end up asking for the bit back eventually, but for now I'd rather focus on writing some articles. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Utterly understandable. Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask for your extra tabs back at any point. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reverting the IP (I wonder why they hate me). Griffinofwales (talk) 03:37, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind

Hope you don't mind that I removed the administrator template from your userpage. Cheers, Razorflame 23:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks! –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Removed the template from here as well. Razorflame 23:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

It's a good thing that you removed the template, Razorflame. Mythdon (talk • changes) 23:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand this comment. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

How do you not understand the comment, Juliancolton? Mythdon (talk • changes) 23:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Just seemed a bit rude to me, is all. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

rollback

Fr33kman forgot to remove your rollback right. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

eh, not a big deal, but I removed it anyway... –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Um..About the protection. Fr33kman told me that we shouldn't protect user talk pages because of some policy he found. I could get you the diff if you want. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

IAR. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, OK. Not a problem, I was just letting you know. Griffinofwales (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome back, good to have another mop! NonvocalScream (talk) 01:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, thanks. I was planning to stay away for a few months, but this recent vandalism is utterly ridiculous. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 01:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, Juliancolton! Glad you are back. I wish I had adminship so I could do them blocks, deletions, page protections and all that. Sounds like a good thing to have those powers, which I hope to have someday. Mythdon (talk • changes) 01:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you ever need anything done, feel free to ask me. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, if I want things done, I'll ask the administrators' noticeboard or any other administrative page. I'm not the type of user to select an administrator, but rather bring such matters to the attention of administrative areas. For example, if I want a vandal blocked, I'll go to the appropriate administrative place and bring it to the attention of multiple administrators. It gives me a much faster response, and ensures neutrality, though I don't mean to say you're not neutral. Mythdon (talk • changes) 02:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thread about you...sorta...kinda...in a way

Hey Juliancolton, thought I'd alert you to Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Juliancolton. Yotcmdr has raised questions about the process that allowed you to get the tools back. Thought you should be aware of it, Either way (talk) 12:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Lincoln GA

Your comments on the GA have lead to its likely defeat, but have not particularly helped me inprove the article. Please itemize your suggestions for improvement, e.g. "tell me more about this", or "add a section on that", or "expand this", instead of just "Oppose: expand". This will help me and others improve the article. Thank you, Purplebackpack89 (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Attention

WP:AN#Attention: Series of bad usernames. Mythdon (talk • changes) 02:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The Article Cup

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