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Translation tools
I am from Urdu Wikipedia and now I am going to start for Simple English version. Basically I am a translator and translate form English and Arabic to Urdu. I want to do the same for Simple English Wikipedia. Im looking for someone to contact me to help to start here. Thanks. Hmfs.ind (talk) 03:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hmfs.ind: Welcome! What kind if help would you like? I would recommend reading Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages to learn about the requirements here. If you have any other questions, please post at WP:ST instead of here. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Link for the Cymraeg (welsh) wikipedia is wrong
{{editprotected}} At the bottom of the page, there are links to different Wikipedias. The link for the Cymraeg (Welsh) Wikipedia is incorrect. it should be cy.wikipedia.org Johnogwen123 (talk)
- @Johnogwen123: Thank you very much for reporting the error. I've corrected the problem. If it still shows on your computer, try a hard refresh. Operator873talkconnect 20:48, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Johnogwen123 and Operator873: I usually maintain this, and probably miscopied. I apologize; certainly no offense was intended. Thank you for correcting, Operator. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Did you Know Section
Can the Did you know, section and the picture be updated, it's been the same for a long time. thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: I've switched the DYK to queue 6. Hiàn (talk) 01:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:39, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Queue
Could we have an automatic queue changer switching between the did you knows every week? This way the did you know section does not stay the same for a very long time. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- We do have a queue, but the problem is we don't have people creating DYK hooks very often, so they are left the same for a longer period on purpose so we don't run out of hooks. It is not uncommon for us to leave them the same for a couple months (sometimes more than 6). The solution if you want them changed faster is to start suggesting hooks. We have only had 11 suggested in the last two years. Because Hian switched the queue last time you asked we are now out of DYK hooks except those 11 I mentioned earlier which haven't yet been approved. So if you want newer hooks we need more otherwise we will be on these ones for a good period of time. -DJSasso (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- I might note that a new queue was made on May 20 with 5 hooks that had been approved. (Made by FR on May 20 by pulling the approved ones off of the suggestion page). It would seem to be ready to be rotated on to the main page. There are also 18 hooks on the suggestions page waiting for approval or disapproval. (Granted I submitted 3 just now so it was less earlier today). I would think out of those 18 we can probably get at least 5 approved to build the next queue after the one I linked above. But I am also happy to keep suggesting more hooks regularly. The issue is that current policy seems to limit the suggestions to 4 hooks at a time per editor. Maybe we should consider removing that limit? If so I'll suggest more...just trying not to break the rules. Desertborn (talk) 14:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Also Queue 4 and Queue 5 have hooks. But I remember someone saying they were not approved yet. Should I move them back to the suggestion page so they can be reviewed and approved? Desertborn (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- I might note that a new queue was made on May 20 with 5 hooks that had been approved. (Made by FR on May 20 by pulling the approved ones off of the suggestion page). It would seem to be ready to be rotated on to the main page. There are also 18 hooks on the suggestions page waiting for approval or disapproval. (Granted I submitted 3 just now so it was less earlier today). I would think out of those 18 we can probably get at least 5 approved to build the next queue after the one I linked above. But I am also happy to keep suggesting more hooks regularly. The issue is that current policy seems to limit the suggestions to 4 hooks at a time per editor. Maybe we should consider removing that limit? If so I'll suggest more...just trying not to break the rules. Desertborn (talk) 14:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- DJSasso, I'd be happy to make some more dyk's. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:55, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- Pinging @TDKR Chicago 101: and @Hiàn: in case you want to comment. Desertborn (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think at some point Vermont brought over an enwiki admin familiar with en's infrastructure at some point (see Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_124#Status_of_DYK) so we could very well set a slower rotation (two weeks per queue maybe?) and ramp up DYK work significantly.
- I know in the past the hook restrictions were put in place due to one editor clogging up the DYK process and I'm not suggesting they be removed, but I'm thinking easing these restrictions to get more through might be beneficial. Hiàn (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah we can probably ease up on them a bit, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that unless it becomes all one person again. But yeah really we are heavily reliant on DYK creation if people want to see it rotated more than every few months. -DJSasso (talk) 17:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Weight vs Mass
The Wikipedia page https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_measurement in it's opening dialogue comparing the major systems of measurement mentions that in the metric or SI system that the kilogram is a unit of weight. This is incorrect - the kilogram is a measure of mass. Further down the article it does say the kilogram is the unit of mass in the metric system but goes on to say "the kilogram weighs..." and "1 gram (g) is the weight of...". Lastly I note that in the Converting Between Systems section under Mass it gives conversions of ounces and pounds to grams and kilograms. Clearly the writer does not distinguish between mass and weight and treats them as though they are the same thing. p.s. The metric system or SI does not have a base unit of weight - one would use a compound unit such as a Newton (1 kg*m/s^2) to measure weight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.10.238 (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- @207.229.10.238: This is a good point you raise. We do need to fix it. May I suggest you boldly make an attempt at changing it? Our motto here is that if you see a change that is needed, go for it. Of course you may want to read up on some of what is noted on simple start first. Desertborn (talk) 01:39, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes I did enjoy edit editing this??? Thank you Wikipedia Avilesgabrielj (talk) 07:32, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Selected Article
There is no Selected article in mobile view, there is just the sections: About Wikipedia & Did you know. If a sysop could fix this it would be a great help.--SADIQUI (talk) 22:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
I choose the best way to edit it
It was easy and hard to to complete this !! Avilesgabrielj (talk) 07:34, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes its hard but will power can change anything Munazza205 (talk) 08:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Suggested Grammar edit
Instead of "If you need help, you may ask questions at Simple talk..." Should it be "If you need help, you can ask questions at Simple talk..." ? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Either one seems fine to me. One means ability, the other means permission: either applies. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- It seems a little complex, shall we go striaght to the point (i.e. "If you need help, feel free to ask us at ST" or even more to the point "Ask us on ST if you need any help?"). --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- In the first question, the phrase "feel free" is probably complex. A question in the form of your second suggestion may be ambiguous: is it saying 1) if you need help then ask on ST or 2) if you want to know whether you need help (such as, whether the community feels that you need help because there are problems with your work), then ask at ST. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed, I didn't know you replied so early and came here to ammend my proposal. Will this be better? Need Help? Have any Questions? Ask us [[WP:ST|here]]!--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- In the first question, the phrase "feel free" is probably complex. A question in the form of your second suggestion may be ambiguous: is it saying 1) if you need help then ask on ST or 2) if you want to know whether you need help (such as, whether the community feels that you need help because there are problems with your work), then ask at ST. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- It seems a little complex, shall we go striaght to the point (i.e. "If you need help, feel free to ask us at ST" or even more to the point "Ask us on ST if you need any help?"). --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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Auntof6 I know it's been a long time since this question, but what do you think? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- How about "If you need help or you have questions, you can ask at WP:Simple talk." The shortened " Need help?" and "Have any questions?" aren't the way English learners learn to form questions, so it might confuse them. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:23, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Mobile main page special casing will be disabled July
Per phab:T254287, mobile special casing will be disabled in July. This means the Main Page will look like this on phones (reduce your browser window or use devtools to simulate what it would look like on a phone). I've created User:BrandonXLF/sandbox with modified version of the Main Page that uses User:BrandonXLF/styles.css for styling, making the page easier to edit and smaller in size. This version is mobile friendly and no longer requires Template:Main Page subpanel and Template:Main Page panel. You see how it looks on desktop by going here and how it looks on mobile by going here. To use this version you would have to:
- Copy the contents of User:BrandonXLF/sandbox to Main Page
- Move User:BrandonXLF/styles.css to Main Page/styles.css
- Replace
User:BrandonXLF/styles.css
with:Main Page/styles.css
in the code from User:BrandonXLF/sandbox
There a few differences between the pages visually (although they are very minor), please ping me if you have any issues with the code or the presentation of the new page. - BrandonXLF (talk) 04:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Djsasso: You seem to be the last person who edited the Main Page, can you implement these changes? - BrandonXLF (talk) 21:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- I will get to it later today when I have a chance to focus on it. -Djsasso (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done. -Djsasso (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- I will get to it later today when I have a chance to focus on it. -Djsasso (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
kowiki
{{Changeprotected}} kowiki has 500,000 more articles. Please change. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Yes you are right. Should be updated. IWI (chat) 11:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- I added. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: But... my username is "Gomdoli4696". :) --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gomdoli4696: Oh dear haha. Managed to make that mistake twice. Sorry :) IWI (chat) 14:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
kowiki
{{Changeprotected}} kowiki has 500,000 more articles. Please change. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Yes you are right. Should be updated. IWI (chat) 11:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- I added. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: But... my username is "Gomdoli4696". :) --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gomdoli4696: Oh dear haha. Managed to make that mistake twice. Sorry :) IWI (chat) 14:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Update the "Useful pages" link
Change the "Useful pages" link near the top to link to Wikipedia:Useful pages instead of Wikipedia:Useful, as the page was moved this year. thanks. Nurg (talk) 22:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Done. But I would note that it did redirect so doing it was unnecessary per en:WP:NOTBROKEN. -Djsasso (talk) 12:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
How to add my name in Wikipedia ?
My aim is the social services through politician & organic farming. Kushal pandey organic (talk) 18:25, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Kushal pandey organic: If that's a commercial username, that may be a problem, espcially if you are making commercial edits. I don't know what you mean by "adding your name in Wikipedia" though. If you mean to create an article, go to that article's name and press "create source". But I am worried that you may be trying to create an article to promote something, which may result in your article being deleted. If you have any questions, letme know :) Computer Fizz (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
I want to mention my details in Wikipedia as my biography. How can i do it H S Aithani (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Short answer is you don't. Hiàn (talk) 19:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Hindi
You should have all the lang Heema Jain (talk) 07:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Heema Jain: Hindi is there. If you don't see it, it could be because of your settings. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello Sir Arshad solanki (talk) 18:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Anyone there Arshad solanki (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Hii sir Pradeep patel unitian (talk) 01:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
@Arshad solanki and Pradeep patel unitian: If you have a question, just ask. Please don't just keep saying hello. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello Sayed Shahab Haider Politician (talk) 11:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Can those who post stop repeatedly posting "Hello" and state your question? It creates unnecessary clutter. Dh.wp (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Missing pages that where here before
Um… Is it just me or are the following gone from Wikipedia: Piper, short film by Pixar Adventure by Warren Robinett (video game on atari) Great Fire of 1910, a forest fire that happenned in the northwest They are like gone… Atarian 10:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I've located them for you.
» Great Fire of 1910
» Adventure (1980 video game)
» Piper (film)
Update
It needs to be easier to insert photos, infoboxes, links, references,… into articles and user pages. Atarian 12:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- QUIRKEY-OBTAINED###
- SMARTERER### PONYexpressions (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I couldnt quite understand, could you please reexplain? Dh.wp (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
COVID Main Page Header
See my proposal of having a header on the main page relating to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic and relating articles to make it easier for our readers to navigate and look for information.--TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. Dh.wp (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- <a href="/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a>
- <a href="/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019" title="Coronavirus disease 2019">Disease</a>
- <a href="/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2" title="Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2">Virus</a>
- <a href="/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territory" title="COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory">By location</a>
- <a href="/wiki/Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic" title="Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic">Impact</a>
- <a href="/wiki/Portal:Coronavirus_disease_2019" title="Portal:Coronavirus disease 2019">Portal</a>
This might be a good idea. Information from the English Wikipedia. Dh.wp (talk) 16:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Long since already done. You realize you are commenting on very out of date discussions right? -Djsasso (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Complicated lingo HERE, set an example and hence first eat your own dogfood!
I really stumbled over this mentally:
"Use Basic English vocabulary and shorter sentences. This allows people to understand normally complex terms or phrases
Should read, IMO:
Use simple English words and write short sentences. This helps people understand words and sentences that would be difficult if you write in a complicated way.
Just my two cents.
Cheers, 87.148.44.217 (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. Tradedia (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Agreed, although this would be a minor change. Dh.wp (talk) 16:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
add link
Under the section:
- "Be Bold Your article does not have to be perfect..." there is no Wikilink to WP:Bold, we should add the wp:bold link to the word "Be Bold" --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this is a metaphor for "don't fret" or similarly "don't shy away", and tells you that your article doesn't have to be perfect. Conclusion, not needed. Dh.wp (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
en:WP:NOTBROKEN Dh.wp (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
What is service mean
--108.70.119.144 (talk) 15:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you mean. Could you say a little more? IWI (chat) 16:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Service is defined as the action of helping or doing work for someone.
Information provided by the Merriam Webster Dictionary. Dh.wp (talk) 15:59, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Language
Hi sir, Please added talk language in Bangla. Muhammad Shariff12 (talk) 18:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Update is needed
The "Arabic Wikipedia" has now more than a 1,000,000 article. Thanks. Tradedia (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done and updated others. --IWI (talk) 00:58, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Main Page Title
Under "Welcome to Wikipedia" we have, "the free encyclopedia that anyone can change", should it be "The free encyclopedia that anyone can change."? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- (change conflict) (change conflict) No, but there should be a comma after "Wikipedia" and a full stop after "change". See en:Main Page; that's how they do it. --IWI (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Done --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- (change conflict) @Thegooduser: @ImprovedWikiImprovment: I boldly added the change as 1) it's proper punctuation anyway and 2) it is all languages, not just English. Operator873talkconnect 00:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:47, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
How about a "In the News" widget for the front page?
It could be like the one on En wiki, except in simple. I would say leave out the politics though; no need for that here. Derpdart56 (talk) 03:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- We don't have enough editors currently to be able to maintain an in the news section, which is why we don't have one. -DJSasso (talk) 13:43, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oh. Okay. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Couldn't we make a bot for that though? A bot that takes news articles and converts them into simple somehow? Derpdart56 (talk) 14:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Bots are not allowed to create content. And converting to simple isn't easy enough that a bot would be able to do it well. -DJSasso (talk) 14:41, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Bots are also prone to making a lot of mistakes and can't think like a human, but i like your idea. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Bots are not allowed to create content. And converting to simple isn't easy enough that a bot would be able to do it well. -DJSasso (talk) 14:41, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
What if you just give the bot access to online news and get it to copy it down on the “In The News” widget? Stupstup (talk) 01:31, 11 January 2021 (UTC) Then user could edit it and make it simple? Stupstup (talk) 01:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hello. It still would have a chance of making mistakes, and just copying down online news is a copyright violation. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Change: Use Basic English vocabulary and shorter sentences. to: Use Basic English words and shorter sentences
{{editprotected}}
This is simple English so it should use as little jargon as possible, many non-native English speakers have no idea what "Vocabulary" means and with good reason, I did not learn the word Vocabulary until I was in 8th grade, and for readers who want understand clear, direct and sharp wording they probably wont like the wording. The main argument against would be that "Vocabulary" is a more descriptive word then "Word" but the definition of Vocabulary according to Marian Webster is "a list or collection of words or of words and phrases usually alphabetically arranged and explained or defined", so the main difference is word means any word and vocabulary means a list of words usually in alphabetical order, the difference is minimal and people will be able to understand it all regardless.
Lots of people wont know what vocabulary means, and is not as understandable or direct as words. I therefore think this would be a positive change. Vallee01 (talk) 22:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I quite like this suggested change. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Except, of course, that the simple English vocabulary itself has inbuilt weaknesses, and those weaknesses tend to be in the sciences and technologies. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- This change has been done by User:Eptalon.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 03:29, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Query
Hello, I’m Shift674. I’ve noticed that when there are no results in a search, the word “query” comes up. The word may be hard for some people to understand, so I’ve been wondering if we can change the word. -Shift674-🌀 15:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Shift674: This is irrelevant to the Main Page. Please move this to simple talk. --IWI (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
what a great idea! this is pretty good. im on board with you and i will try to make it happen. Keelanscanlan (talk) 18:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Something is wrong with the main page today
The article-of-the-day is broken. It's showing as blank with a red link "Main Page/Article 9" under "Selected article". The whole section is blank apart from that and the COVID-19 banner. I guess this needs fixing! GPinkerton (talk) 18:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- GPinkerton, I see a, red link to "Main Page/Article 10". ~ Hulged (talk) 06:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Same per Hulged. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:29, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah when Eptalon demoted the article he forgot to move the highest numbered article to the gap. It has been fixed now for all the ones that were demoted. -Djsasso (talk) 13:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
I need a ASAP Correct answer to a very simple question about Wikipedia PLEASE- How can I do this...in Wikipedia? PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP AY HEART RATES ARE RISING BY THE MINUTE!!
Hello from Cyprus to everyone - everywhere!! I’m Pari and this is my first attempt with Wikipedia as an author for a subject I’ve been researching for years now! I decided to share my research with the world so I want to publish it WHEN IS 100% FINISHED/EDITED but.....
I have just created an account and I began the transferring from my real writing on a paper, by Typing from the beginning everything a I have on my Real Paper written Research. I’m still on the 1st page. And this is my exact problem!! What I am writing is not even close to Finishing inside Wikipedia or in any other Application for writers like for example Microsoft WORD or so so many other Apps that exist out there!
Therefore since it is NOT EITHER CLIAE TO BEING READY FOR PUBLISHING IN WIKIPEDIA ( or anywhere else for that matter ), HOW CAN I JUST SAVE WHAT I DID SO FAR?? The only thing I see is a Blue Button saying PUBLISH and I can’t see anything or anywhere like a SAVE Button!! First of all, is there a SAVE Button or I have no choice other than to PUBLISH for the eyes of everyone, of what I wrote so far in the 1st Unfinished Page of my Subject??
Maybe it is supposed to be like this? Is Wikipedia an Application that has NOTHING SIMILAR TO DO WITH Microsoft WORD?? Is Wikipedia an Application that you simply POST ANYTHING THAT IS READY TO BE READ BY OTHERS? So my question is very simple and I am sure that someone from all of you will know the answer.
HOW CAN I JUST SAVE AS A FILE IN WIKIPEDIA, SOMETHING THAT I HAVE WRITTEN BUT IS BY NO CHANCE EVEN CLOSE TO PUBLISHING YET?
SINCE IT NEEDS A LOT OF WRITING AND EDITING before I can officially Publish it, WHAT CAN I DO FROM NOW ON - SINCE I VE HIT THE PUBLISH BUTTON THINKING THAT IT WOULD ASK ME IF I REALLY WAS READY TO PUBLISH OR IF I JUST WANTED TO SAVE MY FILE FOR NOW??? Does any of you kind people know how to proceed WITHIN the Wikipedia.org ( meaning not having to copy EVERYTHING I HAVE WRITTEN SO FAR and Finish it by importing my words into another Writing Application like for example Microsoft WORD or so so many others that exist out there! Is that possible first of all? Can I “PAUSE MY WRITING” in Wikipedia “BUT WITHOUT HAVING IT PUBLISHED AND CONTINUE WERE I LEFT THE NEXT DAY AND THEM CONTINUE AGAIN AFTER A WEEK OR SO BUT WITHOUT PUBLISHING IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED???
I’m not well familiar with Wikipedia so I would so much be obliged to the person who will solve this for me, if they emailed me at (Redacted)
Thank you so much in advance My best regards and love from Nicosia / CYPRUS
Pari Mele
P.S. Forgive me for a very long email but it seems that from my stress I probably written the same questions more times than one!! I am very sorry! PLEASE EMAIL ME HERE: (Redacted) Pari Mele (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Pari Mele we don’t publish research papers here. There are websites specifically for that. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You can use Wikiversity to publish learning materials. Thank you! Nigos (talk · contribs) 05:09, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Pari Mele: I agree with Nigos' comment above. Wikipedia is not a blog. And your user page is not a "journal". It is simply a place to briefly tell us a little about yourself (which you did at the end of it). Original research is not allowed. You are in the wrong place. Tradedia (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Folks, while you were fully correct I think you were not nice to this new user. IMO you could have said something like:
- <a few welcoming words, then:> We're happy you have found Wikipedia and would like to help you find the right place for what you want to do. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. <briefly explain> This means that it is different from a site where you can publish. <... all the other good factual advice from what you wrote.>
- Cheers, 87.148.44.217 (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I agree. Tradedia (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Folks, while you were fully correct I think you were not nice to this new user. IMO you could have said something like:
Yes dat is true Stupstup (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
As soon as possible Melanin 72 (talk) 18:30, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Please help Rani Garu (talk) 12:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Inaccurate information on main page
I've found some inaccurate information on the main page as well as on the portals. It says Biology (Plants and Animals) though on the English (the main) wiki, it is described differently. Also, we all know that Biology isn't only plants and animals. I would have edited it but... admins only I guess.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Elytrian (talk • contribs) 06:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
I found that the Biology portal on the main page is labeled (Plants and animals). If you know anything beyond a basic education's worth of knowledge, this is kinda inaccurate. I'd like some admins to change this to '(Living things)' or something more appropriate. Elytrian (talk) 07:01, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
You already know— Preceding unsigned comment added by Elytrian (talk • contribs) 14:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- It's not really inaccurate, it is just not as detailed as you would like because we are Simple Wikipedia. Once a reader clicks on the link they are taken to a page that will explain it in more detail. -Djsasso (talk) 20:06, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Djsasso It is really inaccurate; biology is not limited to plants and animals. "Living things" would really be much better. There is a difference between simplifying and obfuscating. GPinkerton (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Djsasso: What he said, plus plants and animals completely misses biochemistry. Elytrian - Talk 11:04, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Djsasso It is really inaccurate; biology is not limited to plants and animals. "Living things" would really be much better. There is a difference between simplifying and obfuscating. GPinkerton (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Our main page Biology says: "Biology is the science that studies life, and living things, and the evolution of life. Living things include animals, plants, fungi (such as mushrooms), and microorganisms such as bacteria and archaea.". How is that wrong? Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Request for addition of name for religion
Please add Sanamahism in the list of religions mentioned in the main page. Haoreima (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: I think we have enough religions listed there; it isn't meant to be a list of all religions. If you look at List of religions, you'll see there are many others that aren't listed. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:50, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6:Not putting every thing in the main page is ok. But denying or neglecting a requested one, without proper reason, isn't ok. I think so. Haoreima (talk) 04:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, here's a reason: the religion is not well enough known, and in any case is a version of Hinduism. The whole point of intro pages is not to list everything every editor is interested in. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Please don't say it as a version of Hinduism, if you don't know well about that particular religion. It will make it look like an insult or disrespect to that particular faith. Please don't give comments in the topics you don't know about. Every religion in Indian subcontinent aren't Hinduism. Just only comment on the reason to decline the topic's inclusion in the mainpage of wikipedia. Thanks! May God bless you! Haoreima (talk) 12:45, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Featured article?
All I seem to get is MainArticle/25 (or smth like that). Where's the featured article today? Elytrian - Talk 03:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Same here!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegameshowlad (talk • contribs) 14:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Buddhism Preview Penis Image
Hovering over the Buddhism link has an image of a penis for the preview that's not in the page, don't know how to remove it, would someone who does please do so?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.164.122.92 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- I will try and fix this, however in the future, please direct all non-main page related enquires to Simple Talk --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:43, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- I added a image to the article and it seems to be fixed. Thanks for bringing this matter to our attention. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:47, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Categories link in header
In the main page header there is a link called ‘categories’ which links to Special:CategoryTree/Project. However, this ‘project’ category does not exist. I wonder if it is supposed to be the category ‘Contents’ so could an admin change the link to Special:CategoryTree/Contents. Thanks, DigitalChutney (talk) 16:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- No that is the correct link, its meant to link you to the search for category trees. If you enter in a category it will give you the tree for that category. But the project part of the link is unnecessary to do that, its just filler. I have removed it to make it function better. -Djsasso (talk) 18:43, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The Cebuano Wikipedia probably doesn't have 5m articles
Under the other languages section, it lists Cebuano as having at least 5,000,000 articles, along with only English. This doesn't seem accurate, as if you visit the standard English Wikipedia, it doesn't list Cebuano in the 1,000,000+ articles section. FamiliarFlareon (talk) 06:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- @FamiliarFlareon perhaps the list in standard English is incorrect, as the statistics from meta and Cebuano Wikipedia itself puts the wiki at 6,000,000+ articles. -- *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 06:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, I was unaware of Lsjbot, which is why I made that comment. FamiliarFlareon (talk) 02:55, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Changing states— Preceding unsigned comment added by Class 4Y 2022 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Kihaya
Unakifahamu kijana week. Nokimanya ekiaya anga noyeshekya KimodoMsafi (talk) 21:29, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, we use English in this wikipedia... Eptalon (talk) 21:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Imange Talabana
Hi guys I am Imange Talababa Imange talabana (talk) 15:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- cool? Derpdart56 (talk) 15:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Get it right!!
Once again a dissonance between the page and its version on our main page. Do please check. Powderfinger WAS not "is". Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Article
Hello!In the article Pas-de-Calais,I will create a list of the commune of the département but I can’t know if you have to put it on article Pas-de-Calais or a create a new article on the municipalities…TYURZ!Chat with a French contributer? 14:27, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you get three articles, you can create a category. What about "Category: Communes of Pas de Calais"? - Don't hesitate to do anything, as it is easy to correct. (In French:) Si tu trouves trois articles convénables, tu peux créers unce catégorie, ce qui est plus facile. Tu peux mettre la liste dans cette catéogrie également. Eptalon (talk) 17:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Have a look at Tulle, to see what I mean. Eptalon (talk) 17:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Something is wrong.
Whenever I go to simple english wikipedia then I see the selected article, BILLY GRAHAM, but the problem is it has literally been the selected article for 4 days already. I have counted. 202.84.42.187 (talk) 09:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Featured article still changes for me, it's currently Lawrence, Kansas. Try clearing your cache with CTRL + F5 when opening the main page. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 10:56, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Same with the current one but I will follow your advice and try it. 202.84.42.187 (talk) 07:25, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- You were right, thanks! 202.84.42.187 (talk) 07:25, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hey again, yesterday the featured article was a baseball shirt , but it is still today i used ctrl + F5 but it did not work.
- Could you try fixing this please?
- 202.84.42.187 (talk) 07:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- It still changes for me. The current featured article is Hurricane Vince. Given the code that it's supposed to run (that is, current day of the year mod the number of featured articles), Hurricane Vince is indeed the correct article. It might be a browser problem on your end. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 08:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Now today. a band was featured yesterday , and still today\
- mMotorkai2 202.84.42.187 (talk) 08:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- 1910 Cuba hurricane for me. It's likely a browser problem on your end, and we can't do anything about it. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 08:58, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- The problem was gone a few months ago. 202.84.42.187 (talk) 11:59, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- 1910 Cuba hurricane for me. It's likely a browser problem on your end, and we can't do anything about it. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 08:58, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- It still changes for me. The current featured article is Hurricane Vince. Given the code that it's supposed to run (that is, current day of the year mod the number of featured articles), Hurricane Vince is indeed the correct article. It might be a browser problem on your end. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 08:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Alright, now I had enough
Simple English Wikipedia is featuring the same article at different times , the current featured article was featured once when I logged in. 202.84.42.187 (talk) 11:03, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- To be fair, we don't have as many FAs/VGAs as enwiki (they have ~6000, we have only 27). Not many editors are actively improving pages to the point where they can be nominated as a FA/VGA, so we have no option but to rotate all 27 articles. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 11:06, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is a small community, there are currently 5 articles up for discussion ("good articles", they don't get featured) here, and there's one up for discussion ("very good articles") here. Anyone is welcome, so if you think you can help, please do. Eptalon (talk) 11:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Turkish Wikipedia hit 500,000 pages
The other wikis part should be revised. Ardenus (talk) 10:24, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
PF ESI CONSULTING SERVICE
if anybody wants to withdraw the PF amount. Please let me know Ravidtmm (talk) 16:34, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- What is the "PF amount" anyways @Ravidtmm? I didn't understand. DMK-C5 (talk) 16:36, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- This. What is the PF amount, and why is it important on the Main Page of the simple Wikipedia? TheShammingMan (talk) 19:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
"Includes"
In the "About Wikipedia" section, it says "That includes children and adults who are learning English". On Wikipedia:Examples of simpler English, it specifically says not to use "Include". Lallint (talk) 🍔cheesborger🍔 14:45, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Lallint: I changed it to ", such as", so Done. --IWI (talk) 17:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Many examples on our introductory pages are taken from C.K. Ogden's work a century ago. If a word or phrase has become well-known more recently it may be appropriate to use it. One would have to test people to find out whether "include" actually does cause a problem. The "About Wikipedia" section has not been revised recently. I do not propose any changes, but I would not stick to it religiously. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:57, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
Hello all,
In mid-January 2023, the Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct will undergo a second community-wide ratification vote. This follows the March 2022 vote, which resulted in a majority of voters supporting the Enforcement Guidelines. During the vote, participants helped highlight important community concerns. The Board’s Community Affairs Committee requested that these areas of concern be reviewed.
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Turkish Wikipedia
Hello. The number of articles in the Turkish Wikipedia is greater than 500K, however, it's shown among the wikipedias that have 100K+ articles. Can this get updated? Wiki6421 (talk) 11:30, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes. Chechen, Czech, Hungarian, and Turkish should be moved to 500K+, and Afrikaans and Ladin (not to be confused with Latin) should be added to 100K+. Lights and freedom (talk) 20:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not sure that the 5,000,000+ row is really necessary. It's only English and Cebuano, which is mostly bot-generated stubs. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Fehufanga Could you update this? Lights and freedom (talk) 05:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom Partly done, wikis that saw an increase in article numbers were updated accordingly. Afrikaans and Ladin were added. The 5 million row is not yet removed. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 06:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Fehufanga Thanks. I guess removing the 5 million row would require input from other users before it happened. It's not urgent, and I don't have that strong an opinion about it. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom Partly done, wikis that saw an increase in article numbers were updated accordingly. Afrikaans and Ladin were added. The 5 million row is not yet removed. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 06:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Fehufanga Could you update this? Lights and freedom (talk) 05:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not sure that the 5,000,000+ row is really necessary. It's only English and Cebuano, which is mostly bot-generated stubs. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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Old wikipedia logo
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In the other projects section, below the "In regular english" it doesn't show the Wikipedia logo from 2010. See the section, and it shows the pre-2010 logo. Edit: also in the section of headers! Look closely.Thanks, WPchanger2011 (page, talk, changes he did, more changes) 21:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- @WPchanger2011: I've updated some logos in the "regular English" section. However, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by section of headers. Can you give me some more info on that? --Gordonrox24 | Talk 00:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- @WPchanger2011 are you talking about File:Wikibar2.png? If so, I can't find any suitable replacement for it. The wbars in commons:Category:Wbars are quite outdated. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 06:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think we've made all the changes we can, so I've removed the template. If there is another specific change request, feel free to add another request.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 16:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Main Page/Introduction
On Main Page/Introduction, it would be better to say "read the help pages and other useful pages", rather than "read the help pages and other good pages". The term "good pages" doesn't mean much by itself. Especially as the link goes to Wikipedia:Useful pages. Lights and freedom (talk) 05:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Call for early input on the proposed Movement Charter ratification methodology
Hello all,
The Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) is collecting early input from the Wikimedia movement on the proposed methodology for the ratification of the Movement Charter from April 10 to 28, 2023. Ratification of the Movement Charter is planned to take place in early 2024 according to the timeline.
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Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge
Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge was built in 1910. Mrs Auton (talk) 13:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, the proper place to talk about this would be on the articles talk page. FusionSub (talk) 11:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Is there a reason why this does not have the new design that other wikipedias have
Even the other English Wikipedia has the new design so wondering why. Its not like the design does not have a English kind. Qwv (talk) 20:50, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Qwv: Are you using the same skin on both? -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:04, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Qwv If you have set a preference to use Vector 2010 in the past, then the new design will not show up. The new design is shown if you are logged out. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 21:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Nifty Fifty
Wasd 49.36.69.3 (talk) 11:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, this talk page is for improving the main page. If you want to test out editing, please try the Sandbox.- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 11:43, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Protection
should we semi-protect this talk page, or is it even possible to do so? 88.110.38.249 (talk) 10:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- It is possible to do so, but there is no need. --Ferien (talk) 15:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Typo in DYK
Constatine → Constantine Ayakanaa (talk) 23:11, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ayakanaa, thanks for noticing! That's fixed. --Ferien (talk) 15:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Edit request
{{edit protected}}
Kindly assist to change the following:
<h2>Selected article</h2></div>
to<h2>Selected article</h2>
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toanges from a school)</div>
Thanks in advance. Minorax (talk) 05:47, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Minorax, Done --Ferien (talk) 15:58, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
October 19, 2001
This is the Wikipedia page for Simplified English. It has been started as a response to the need for English learners and English teachers for reduced-complexity, free readings for use in the classroom, computer activities, and so on. It is suggested that articles be taken from the regular wikipedia and simplified using only the 1000 most common words in English and less complex grammatical structures. (Or to conform to a certain skill level in one of the standard indices.) Of course, original submissions are also welcome--in that case, they could be submitted both to this and to the main wikipedia. 2601:644:907E:A450:9807:779E:404C:33ED (talk) 16:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Spoken audio files
I have been making a LOT of Spoken Wikipedia audio files for English Wikipedia articles. May this also be done at Simple English Wikipedia? Maybe I missed it, but I have not seen any here. Alanasings (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, we do allow spoken audio files for the articles on this project. They must be files made from the Simple Wikipedia and not be copies of the enwiki files. Thanks!! fr33kman 20:26, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Why is Israel locked?
"The State of Israel is an apartheid regime, and an authoritarian dictatorship in southwestern Asia"
How is this fair or accurate? 166.107.163.31 (talk) 00:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- I restored the last good version. You were right to complain (next time, leave your comment on the article talk page, i.e. Talk:Israel) - thanks Antandrus (talk) 01:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
DYK section
The "Start a new article" link leads to a redirect. This should be fixed. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:19, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Language redirect
Ummmm there is some wrong in redirecting in lagugaes like the Bangla one the redirect link is wrong it will be bn.wikipedia.com. I hope you will fix soon Rifat008 (talk) 14:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Neptune Image
The image for Neptune is not the same for the article, as it is not the true color version revealed early into 2024. 4.17.84.154 (talk) 11:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- IP user. If you have a free non-copywrited photo of it you can upload it to commons and then attach it to article. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Superscript 119.156.228.23 (talk) 09:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to change auto-archive on Main Talk page
I would like to suggest we auto-archive the main talk page with different setting. I know a lot of us monitor the page, so questions are usually answered or statements receive a response relatively fast. Some are odd baalth ngs, ke lian editor posting in another languag,e , where ask them to post inEen igl.
I would recommend we use the same time frame as we do on simple talk, which is 10 days and a minimum of 5 topics left on page. This page is currently set at 1 year.
- Only named editors who have edited on this wiki prior to this post being made can vote Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
- Just for confirmation, you are planning to change the auto-archive for Talk:Main Page to be limited to a few days? If so, I don't have an issue with that. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski Yes from 1 year to 10 days. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 13:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think I was the last person to tweak archival settings; Simple talk currently has a setting of 10 days, Admin noticeboard of 14 days. I reduced these by a third, about half a year ago. This page gets a lot less traffic, so we would likely be looking at settings between 30 and 45 days. Note that when it is set up, we also need to tweak the archives, so that there is a space before the archive number. Manual archival should be avoided, there are bots that do this perfectly.--Eptalon (talk) 00:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Eptalon I could agree with the 40-45, it’s a lot shorter than one year and enough of us watch this page. What do you mean by
Note that when it is set up, we also need to tweak the archives, so that there is a space before the archive number
? Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 01:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)- Simple talk has 'Archive 1','Archive 2',... This one has 'Archive1','Archive2'... Eptalon (talk) 02:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Eptalon Oh ok. I don’t think that matters much except for aesthetic reasons. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Simple talk has 'Archive 1','Archive 2',... This one has 'Archive1','Archive2'... Eptalon (talk) 02:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Eptalon I could agree with the 40-45, it’s a lot shorter than one year and enough of us watch this page. What do you mean by
Support
- Support As proposer Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 12:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - sure. Not sure this really needed a formal proposal/RfC, but it seems wise to have a smaller timeout for active threads than a whole year. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski Hi Lee. Anything that is set up that we want a major change for requires a consensus. Our admins are pretty strict about this and if the change gets made without consensus the editor could be blocked. It’s always better to gain consensus here than be bold like that. Thanks - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 15:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would prefer 45 days per Eptalon's reasoning: it gets less discussion than simple talk. At the moment, there seems to be no automatic archiving here - there are discussions with no comments since 2021. Kk.urban (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Kk.urban I am all for that time frame (I believe I stated that above). It is set to auto archive, but an exception may have been made by the owner of the archive bot to not touch this page. The configuration is correct. I am forbidden from touching the page to archive the old ones like that from 2021, 2022, and 2023. We are at the 7 day mark for this to run, so I feel we have consensus to adjust to 45 days. I will ping the admins to close this out and make sure it is set appropriately. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Eptalon - As you can see we have consensus to adjust the time to 45 days and the name adjustment you mentioned is fine. Can you please adjust the configuration.
- @Operator837 - Is there a reason the archive bot has not touched this page to archive the old conversations from 2021, 2022 and 2023 that meet the one year old requirement? Maybe an exception was made on the bot to not touch this page? Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Kk.urban I am all for that time frame (I believe I stated that above). It is set to auto archive, but an exception may have been made by the owner of the archive bot to not touch this page. The configuration is correct. I am forbidden from touching the page to archive the old ones like that from 2021, 2022, and 2023. We are at the 7 day mark for this to run, so I feel we have consensus to adjust to 45 days. I will ping the admins to close this out and make sure it is set appropriately. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
Discussion
I have gone ahead and made the following changes before the bot kicks off:
- Set the timeframe to 45 days (down from 365 days)
- Expanded the amount of space from 75k per archive to 150k so we have less archives
- Added a space before the archive number
- Made sure old archives are still accessible
- Ensured the archive box can be seen at the top where it should be so it can be searched
If it runs and works tonight, we should be good. If it does not archive, then it is a bot exception. Thanks and edit well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 03:04, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to archive this page
This is no longer valid. See the next section titled Talk:Main Page#Request for Comments: Archiving this Page.
This is a proposal to have Bot873 archive this talk page following its BRFA at Bot873. It is currently only authorized for User talk pages and the admin requested pages. It states that to archive any other namespace or page, it requires community consensus. That is what this is for, so vote away.
The current settings are as follows:
- Archive any discussion that has not been edited in the last 45 days (using the last time stamp in the discussion)
- Must leave the last three (3) discussions (regardless of how old) on the page.
This page was being archived by SassoBot then my bot was dropped in to archive all pages that would allow it (some pages are restricted to Sassobot or no bots). My bot got shut down and Operator created a bot to fill in the gap. So this is nothing new to have this page archived again.
Format for voting is * followed by bolding Approve or Not approved followed by your signature. No comments are typically necessary, but you can if it’s short like why not or not needed imo. Any questions or other items should go in the discussion section and please remember your four ~ to sign.
Approve
- Approve Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 22:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Not approved
Discussion
Format for voting is * followed by bolding Approve or Not approved followed by your signature. No comments are typically necessary, but you can if it’s short like why not or not needed imo. Any questions or other items should go in the discussion section and please remember your four ~ to sign.
- why are you telling people how to "vote"? This is a discussion, not a vote. An RfC (or whatever the simple equivalent is) should also be neutrally worded and start with RfC: (or equivalent). I get why you might not think this is an RfC, but it's laid out exactly like one. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)- @Lee Vilenski Because this isn’t a request for comment. We are actually implementing a task for a bot to do, not for a change in policy. It’s can be either way in reality and it’s written the way it is to give background on what used to happen prior to the implementation of the newest bot in which the owner only sought to do user talk pages instead of what the other bots have done previously. Instructions are put there to remind people of how to vote since we do not have an actual page like ENWP which has it at the top of the page, as ours go on the page it applies too. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Once again, these are not votes. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski It’s the vote to have the bot archive this page. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski change it how you see fit. I’m not going to debate with you on SEWP vs ENWP. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: community will is determined by consensus which is entirely different from a vote. Wikipedia isn't a democracy. A good explanation could be found here. Operator873 connect 17:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Operator873 Thank you for the better explanation. I am leaving in a few for about an hour or so and when I get back I will change it. Again, thank you. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski@Operator873 Does the next section look better? Anything you would like me to change before I re-announce it on simple talk? Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 20:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Operator873 Thank you for the better explanation. I am leaving in a few for about an hour or so and when I get back I will change it. Again, thank you. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 17:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @PotsdamLamb: community will is determined by consensus which is entirely different from a vote. Wikipedia isn't a democracy. A good explanation could be found here. Operator873 connect 17:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski change it how you see fit. I’m not going to debate with you on SEWP vs ENWP. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski It’s the vote to have the bot archive this page. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Once again, these are not votes. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski Because this isn’t a request for comment. We are actually implementing a task for a bot to do, not for a change in policy. It’s can be either way in reality and it’s written the way it is to give background on what used to happen prior to the implementation of the newest bot in which the owner only sought to do user talk pages instead of what the other bots have done previously. Instructions are put there to remind people of how to vote since we do not have an actual page like ENWP which has it at the top of the page, as ours go on the page it applies too. Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 10:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
This discussion will stay open until at least 24 April 2024 at 22:54 (UTC) Thanks, and be well! - PDLTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 22:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)